Taqiya or not ? How can I believe any Muslim when the doctrine of Taqiya exists? He could be telling the truth but I’ll never really trust his testimony because their religion allows them to lie to help their cause.
You don't have to trust them either. When a liar tells you lies about another liar, and you know both lie, you can be skeptical of both of them. Trusting the one that says words you like without verifying those words sets you up to fall for more lies. Trust is earned, don't just give it away.
Project Artichoke - research this and you will understand that even if the Muslim is lying here - the CIA has done FAR WORSE to THOUSANDS of US Citizens.
MKULTRA / MKDELTA / MKALPHA / ARDVARK PRIME etc
They literally made a conveyer belt of prescribing in-patient treatment to folks suffering any minor ailment like depression to go to special mental hospitals that then dosed them with HUGE amounts of LSD cocktails while they were kept in comas - then “re-patterned” to have entirely different memories and personalities and all.
Know how these people found out? Many would go to the same small towns they thought they grew up and estranged from only to find others with the same memories of the same towns and the same people and of the same families and parents. They had all been patterned with the same backstory.
Look the CIA can not just torture and gas but they re-patterned an estimated 13,000 innocent people. That’s indescribable torture and tyranny. It’s an entirely new form of Terrorism on US Citizens and they act with impunity.
Anyone splitting hairs on if this guy lied or not - who fucking cares. They have and do MUCH WORSE so focus and figure out how to push the story for a slathering of red pills.
Stop the tribalism and go with “CIA traffics kids & is Satanic” as it has to be to do disgusting shit like MKULTRA
Ongoing class-action for those that were sent to Montreal for the “Montreal Experiments”
The Montreal Experiments included drug-induced sleep/coma, intensive electroconvulsive therapy (“ECT”), psychic driving, sensory deprivation and the administration of various barbiturates, chemical agents and medications to suppress nerve functionality and activation.
where did you get these ideas? Please support your ideas with facts, sources, quotes, or whatever, in order to "awaken" people to what you believe you know. Thank you. Looking forward to your response. Best wishes. Peace.
You’re right. There’s very little difference in Old Testament Judaism and Islam. Both based on Law and dogma (hierarchical). Jesus was the antidote, bringing grace and truth. Jesus works from within by His Holy Spirit, person-to-person (decentralized).
Please find the Talmud and read. It’s eye opening.
A perfect real world example is Purdue Pharm. they were fine lying and selling OxyContin via corrupting Gentile organizations to sell poison to Gentiles.
To communicate anything to a Goy about our religious relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if the Goyim knew what we teach about them, they would kill us openly.
Libbre David 37
A Jew should and must make a false oath when the Goyim asks if our books contain anything against them.
Not the Torah, the first 5 Books of The Old Testament: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy.
But the Talmud, literally the rest of the teachings of Judah. The Talmud is where Mohammed got the ideas for the 5 Pillars, and also Taqiya/Taqfir. If you research the Talmud and Khabalah, you will see the similarities , as well as the degenerate ways both those religions prey on the rest of the world.
sounds like the clowns testing out new methods for forced confessions to me. it's much easier to get away with crimes when the patsies to make confessions. why do you think they had oswald killed? his repeated denials have never been publicized
Those aren't new ways. The Clowns have been torturing people like this since it's inception. They learned it from the Nazis we brought over thru Op Paperclip that were pipelined into the OSS, which later became the C_A. Prescott Bush was instrumental in both Paperclip AND creating the C_A, and was also a Nazi.
What this guy is doing is laying it all out for the world to see/hear. And it's shit we've known about since Dubya was Pres. This isn't new news. It's old news that was memory holed but now being brought back into the open, because now we have a new generation of voters who were too young to remember or even care about the news of 15 yrs ago.
The commenter I responded to was wondering why they were torturing this particular person when the CIA themselves were heavily involved in 911. I was only theorizing a possible explanation to that question.
“The more I cooperated and told them, the more I was tortured,” he said.
You know they have to save face and torture the peons anyway. Good MKUltra practice too. Thats why it never pays to side with the globalist commies, we will always be expendable.
"The more I cooperated with them, the more I was tortured."
Damn, I don't know how legitimate that website is in the plethora of fake news, but somehow I don't doubt the clowns are that evil.
But as u/Patriot11Retiree pointed out, we know the 'official story' is bogus. So are they just evil for the sake of evil?
There is some sick twisted shit with an abc agency that has unlimited black projects and funding, away from public scrutiny. In the name of 'national security.'
They have always had the mentality of "whatever the cost." It's just people used to think they were the good guys. Now we know beyond a shadow of a doubt how against the common man they are. How deep in the globalist muck they align themselves.
Something about that in particular scares the hell out of me. They can do this shit to anyone. They probably do similar to all those children who disappear.
The time where these agencies where admired is coming to an end. More and more people are being repulsed at the very thought of these clowns.
Because we were never meant to learn anything is my guess. It was always just a shit show side show for us to make an emotional reaction to take more of our rights, a la patriot act.
It's all theater. It always has been. Real people get hurt and die but the extreme is just to further their degenerate agenda. It's all psychological trauma.
His "torture" wasn't at the hands of the GITMO guards. The shit he's detailing happened outside of U.S. jurisdiction. His testimony is of what happened before the extreme rendition program was ended right before Bush left office.
Sounds like the DS know what’s coming and where they are going. They’re putting this “story” out there to gather sympathies for this supposed detainee in order to gather support to have Guantanamo shut down before they are thrown in there themselves.
So they're trying to shut Gitmo down again. Got it. I don't trust the Clowns, but nor do I trust the timing of this. It's not one or the other - both are suspect.
They are just starting a narrative. Didn't Sleepy Joe and Obama want to shut down Gitmo? Idiots think they can try and shut it down before they all reside there awaiting their meeting with God.
I don't think you can call be stripped naked and hung by your wrists as sexual assault. Maybe the battery cables to the nutsack routine. Not sure what other sexual assaults he could be speaking of.
While I try to be on the WWJD train, but this guy appears to be a traitor. It doesn't say where he was born, but it does say he was from Baltimore. I'm sure this probably added to the interrogation intensity.
Interrogation tactics are used around the world, they're not meant to be pleasant as the desired result is to extract information. I'm sure some of it is extreme, but I'd bet this guy being in the US is probably more of a pansy than hardened al-Qaida operatives.
So as I said, I try to be WWJD, but the world at large in which we live isn't. Regardless of 9/11 being an inside job or not, we are the cause of it, either directly or indirectly. Any who, I could ramble on, but ultimately we essentially caused the scenario for this go to go to al-Qaida.
Taqiya or not ? How can I believe any Muslim when the doctrine of Taqiya exists? He could be telling the truth but I’ll never really trust his testimony because their religion allows them to lie to help their cause.
You don't have to trust them either. When a liar tells you lies about another liar, and you know both lie, you can be skeptical of both of them. Trusting the one that says words you like without verifying those words sets you up to fall for more lies. Trust is earned, don't just give it away.
Perfect TLDR
Project Artichoke - research this and you will understand that even if the Muslim is lying here - the CIA has done FAR WORSE to THOUSANDS of US Citizens.
MKULTRA / MKDELTA / MKALPHA / ARDVARK PRIME etc
They literally made a conveyer belt of prescribing in-patient treatment to folks suffering any minor ailment like depression to go to special mental hospitals that then dosed them with HUGE amounts of LSD cocktails while they were kept in comas - then “re-patterned” to have entirely different memories and personalities and all.
Know how these people found out? Many would go to the same small towns they thought they grew up and estranged from only to find others with the same memories of the same towns and the same people and of the same families and parents. They had all been patterned with the same backstory.
Look the CIA can not just torture and gas but they re-patterned an estimated 13,000 innocent people. That’s indescribable torture and tyranny. It’s an entirely new form of Terrorism on US Citizens and they act with impunity.
Anyone splitting hairs on if this guy lied or not - who fucking cares. They have and do MUCH WORSE so focus and figure out how to push the story for a slathering of red pills.
Stop the tribalism and go with “CIA traffics kids & is Satanic” as it has to be to do disgusting shit like MKULTRA
Sauce: https://www.clg.org/Class-Action/List-of-Class-Actions/Allan-Memorial-Institute-Experiments-Class-Action
Ongoing class-action for those that were sent to Montreal for the “Montreal Experiments”
Excellent research...ty for that.
For sure.
It’s gross man.
They did this to kids, everyone.
Same, I consolidate it to "fuck off i got work to do"
Trust but verify.
That should apply to EVERYTHING.
I agree - it’s just too bad that the doctrine of Taqiya exists because it makes Muslim POW testimony suspicious
Chrisitianity and Judiasm doesnt have Taqiya. Muslims are able to lie against infidels if it furthers the Jihad.
where did you get these ideas? Please support your ideas with facts, sources, quotes, or whatever, in order to "awaken" people to what you believe you know. Thank you. Looking forward to your response. Best wishes. Peace.
You’re right. There’s very little difference in Old Testament Judaism and Islam. Both based on Law and dogma (hierarchical). Jesus was the antidote, bringing grace and truth. Jesus works from within by His Holy Spirit, person-to-person (decentralized).
Precisely.
Church is between a personal relationship between you and god.
Sanhedrin teaches that “boom” only the humans that claim the authority can wield it and playing politics and treachery is part of that literal ascent.
No.
You've had way too much to think Goyim.
Judaism. Research the Talmud
This.
Please find the Talmud and read. It’s eye opening.
A perfect real world example is Purdue Pharm. they were fine lying and selling OxyContin via corrupting Gentile organizations to sell poison to Gentiles.
The talmud is a collection of men's interpretations of G-d's words.
Sanhedrin 59a
To communicate anything to a Goy about our religious relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if the Goyim knew what we teach about them, they would kill us openly.
Libbre David 37
A Jew should and must make a false oath when the Goyim asks if our books contain anything against them.
Abrahamic
I think he's referring to Old Testament. The teachings of the Israelites. Although I don't know what he means by any Jewish Taqiya.
Not the Torah, the first 5 Books of The Old Testament: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy.
But the Talmud, literally the rest of the teachings of Judah. The Talmud is where Mohammed got the ideas for the 5 Pillars, and also Taqiya/Taqfir. If you research the Talmud and Khabalah, you will see the similarities , as well as the degenerate ways both those religions prey on the rest of the world.
Any evidence for this? Or am I supposed to take your word for it?
No one is going to go out of their way to read an entire book to prove your point for you. Present the relevant information or gtfo.
Thanks for narrowing it down to those 500 pages.
I guess I always instinctively knew that lol
You can be sure CIA is as evil as they come.
No doubt about that… but Taqiya makes Muslim testimony suspicious
They both satanic factions no doubt.
Why the ignorant comment? All organized religion is meant to control people. Christianity is no exception.
No you are mistaken religion and the churches.
The churches got nothing to do with God but everything to do with power.
Your bastardized understanding of God is a deception of the church. The Bible is most definitely corrupt in its history.
No doubt they said the same thing to Jesus and John.
What you people thinks and do is not my concern.
And the only corruption is done by Satan and his puppets and the fools like you that falls for it.
sounds like the clowns testing out new methods for forced confessions to me. it's much easier to get away with crimes when the patsies to make confessions. why do you think they had oswald killed? his repeated denials have never been publicized
Those aren't new ways. The Clowns have been torturing people like this since it's inception. They learned it from the Nazis we brought over thru Op Paperclip that were pipelined into the OSS, which later became the C_A. Prescott Bush was instrumental in both Paperclip AND creating the C_A, and was also a Nazi.
What this guy is doing is laying it all out for the world to see/hear. And it's shit we've known about since Dubya was Pres. This isn't new news. It's old news that was memory holed but now being brought back into the open, because now we have a new generation of voters who were too young to remember or even care about the news of 15 yrs ago.
I am aware that they have been torturing people.
The commenter I responded to was wondering why they were torturing this particular person when the CIA themselves were heavily involved in 911. I was only theorizing a possible explanation to that question.
You know they have to save face and torture the peons anyway. Good MKUltra practice too. Thats why it never pays to side with the globalist commies, we will always be expendable.
"The more I cooperated with them, the more I was tortured."
Damn, I don't know how legitimate that website is in the plethora of fake news, but somehow I don't doubt the clowns are that evil.
But as u/Patriot11Retiree pointed out, we know the 'official story' is bogus. So are they just evil for the sake of evil?
There is some sick twisted shit with an abc agency that has unlimited black projects and funding, away from public scrutiny. In the name of 'national security.'
They have always had the mentality of "whatever the cost." It's just people used to think they were the good guys. Now we know beyond a shadow of a doubt how against the common man they are. How deep in the globalist muck they align themselves.
Something about that in particular scares the hell out of me. They can do this shit to anyone. They probably do similar to all those children who disappear.
The time where these agencies where admired is coming to an end. More and more people are being repulsed at the very thought of these clowns.
News flash, the Clowns aren't the only U.S. agency who does shit like this.
It's been 20 years since 2001. After 20 years of Investigation, torture, and anything else they're doing, what have we learned?
Nothing.
Because we were never meant to learn anything is my guess. It was always just a shit show side show for us to make an emotional reaction to take more of our rights, a la patriot act.
It's all theater. It always has been. Real people get hurt and die but the extreme is just to further their degenerate agenda. It's all psychological trauma.
This story is probably put out to stain the image of gitmo because some important people suspect that this is where they are headed.
This was my initial thought, the soon to be residents are trying to ready it for their arrival!
His "torture" wasn't at the hands of the GITMO guards. The shit he's detailing happened outside of U.S. jurisdiction. His testimony is of what happened before the extreme rendition program was ended right before Bush left office.
Guess he shouldn't have gone to work for AQ.
You know the government is going to see patriots the same as AQ right?
Anyone that doesn't obey the government's globalist agenda is going to be treated like this man and others.
How do you know he did? There have been so many stories of "I was just walking to work and..." Can't all be lies surely?
He admitted he was a courier for AQ. I'm making the assumption he didn't confess it under duress as he still maintains that he was working for them.
Sounds like the DS know what’s coming and where they are going. They’re putting this “story” out there to gather sympathies for this supposed detainee in order to gather support to have Guantanamo shut down before they are thrown in there themselves.
Funny thing is, GITMO isn't even a Clown black site. I know of 5 in existence, and none of them are on U.S. installations.
The Black List, but reality.
time has come today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIqwzQ7g-Cc
So they're trying to shut Gitmo down again. Got it. I don't trust the Clowns, but nor do I trust the timing of this. It's not one or the other - both are suspect.
Probably as real as a 3 dollar bill.
CIA torture terrorists. Good to me.
To God goes the glory. They are being hanged by their own REVELATION of the method. Glowies get the rope! Amen
They are just starting a narrative. Didn't Sleepy Joe and Obama want to shut down Gitmo? Idiots think they can try and shut it down before they all reside there awaiting their meeting with God.
Wait one. Hr was an al quaida. Fuck him he should be dead.
I don't think you can call be stripped naked and hung by your wrists as sexual assault. Maybe the battery cables to the nutsack routine. Not sure what other sexual assaults he could be speaking of.
While I try to be on the WWJD train, but this guy appears to be a traitor. It doesn't say where he was born, but it does say he was from Baltimore. I'm sure this probably added to the interrogation intensity.
Interrogation tactics are used around the world, they're not meant to be pleasant as the desired result is to extract information. I'm sure some of it is extreme, but I'd bet this guy being in the US is probably more of a pansy than hardened al-Qaida operatives.
So as I said, I try to be WWJD, but the world at large in which we live isn't. Regardless of 9/11 being an inside job or not, we are the cause of it, either directly or indirectly. Any who, I could ramble on, but ultimately we essentially caused the scenario for this go to go to al-Qaida.
From near the end of the article.
Thanks fren, obviously I didn't read the entire article...
But that still may have played into it, as seemingly one of our own countryman turned on us.