I found out from a friend's post that Kyle is not guilty, said friend couldn't understand how he was not guilty when he killed two people. I tried to explain to him but he ended up blocking me (this was all on FB don't crucify me it's how I stay in contact with a lot of people who are far away). I am pretty upset about this because he has helped me out a lot with guidance when I have been in bad spots mentally.
I think my BPD (borderline personality disorder) is effecting my judgement on this because I truly feel that it's my fault. I feel that I am a bad person for being overly opinionated and I should just stay quiet. I feel like I am losing more and more friends every day as well. This one hit harder than most and just makes me want to change who I am as a person.
No, you have to stay true to yourself if you really want to stay sane. Sometimes I think political persuasion is a personality trait you are born with. We all have our role to play in this world. Maybe your friend was your friend at a time in your life when you needed a specific kind of counsel. But reach into your core and know that you are exactly who you are supposed to be and exactly where you are supposed to be in this life right now. Even if this is a hard time.
I like your view on this, and maybe you are right. I am more mentally stable than when I had depended on him a great deal in the past. It still hurts a lot though 😞
I've gone through similar things. Live in a pretty blue state and very blue city. It's just not possible to not have friends and family with different beliefs. My husband and I were disinvited to Christenings for my nieces' children because we are not vaxxed. I am blowing off a lunch with colleagues that I have seen at Christmastime every year for nearly 25 years because I just can't listen to it. Three people we know from the same firm died post double jab in 120 day span from heart attack, blood clot, heart attack. 2 late 50's one 61 year old. And they will still be giving me shit about not being vaccinated. No can do.
Hang in there, this too shall pass.
If you let the truth make you feel guilty, then you really need to work on your convictions. If your “friend” blocked you over the truth, then they aren’t a friend. Just hope one day they wake up on their own. Many of us have lost people to this stupidity. Stay strong and no guilt!!!
I don't think it's a conviction thing, like I said it might be my BPD playing into it, something I struggle with I get overly attached to people and if they reject me then I fall hard. If that makes sense (tried to make a simple explanation without babbling on about it).
It's like the trash taking itself out.
The only things I said in the conversation was that he did what he did in self defense, I mentioned also about Ghislaine Maxwell and how this trial was pulling focus away from her and I think I also mentioned how one of the guys that died was a pedo.
Yeah I have gone back to cleaning the house and trying to distract my thoughts from what happened.
My best friend of over 20 years hasn't talked to me since Jan. 6 when she called hysterical. I tried to talk to her again about this not being the behavior of Trump supporters and suggested she turn off her TV. She's a real Karen and I don't have the emotional energy for this. We are in a cultural war and sacrifices are being made all over - some larger than others. Be strong and true to yourself. You are not alone
Start going to conservative events (like grass roots patriot meetings) and volunteer for local politicians you think are patriots. Trust me you’ll make so many friends and you can be yourself. In the meantime, we are here for you.
Fren, just know you are on the right side of this! It’s human nature to doubt and criticize ourselves for the things we do/say, especially when it comes to someone/something we care about. Losing that person/thing can be difficult.
Be kind to yourself; it’s just a differing opinion. It appears that he is the one who has overreacted by blocking you and cutting off communication. His loss, not yours and you don’t need to “change who you are as a person” because you don’t agree with him imho.
The fact that you are mourning the loss of a friendship more than you are celebrating Kyle's verdict suggests that you are sane and well-adjusted. Hang in there. This madness must end.
from what information you've given us it doesn't seem like it's your fault. if you were like "NO YOU DUMBASS FAGGOT RETARD HE'S INNOCENT" then that's one thing, but I'm just gonna assume you didn't. assuming you just tried to explain your point of view you're absolutely not in the wrong and it's 100% on your friend. don't beat yourself up over it, they're not worth your time and energy anyway.
if you still feel sad and need to talk to someone about it feel free to DM me if you want.
Your fren didn't change for you. Let that sink in.
Relationships end every day because of people's spoken and written opinions about issues. People feel compelled to change another's opinion, and just won't back off. It takes a lot of maturity to know when to just leave something alone. It's the old "my way or the highway" syndrome, and it doesn't work. You can't tell anyone anything or change anyone's true feelings, they have to change within their own thinking, and it is not generally very quick in happening. I have overstepped myself before, I understand how you feel. Maybe this comment is in fact, over-stepping. But, fren, we all have to learn. And it does hurt. I would apologize for being pushy. That might help save your friendship, if you want it back. Two friends who don't feel the same about something. It's possible. One friend of mine, that I do love, attacked me over politics, like, really spewing bile! I just flat out will not go anywhere near certain issues with her. I think she is stupid.... I mean, really stupid. But I'll never tell her that. Find a Patriot group and go to meetings, you won't have to "watch what you say"!
Almost immediately after it happened I got onto my husband's account to reach out to him, I told him that I would delete what I said even going as far as to never comment on his posts that are political again. He responded with he didn't understand how I could believe Kyle is innocent when he killed three people cold blood and questioned me as a Christian. He said he had to think and pray about it. I even told him that if this is the decision (to block me) I wouldn't contact him every again and respect his decision.
That is 100% accurate to how I think a lot of times and it sucks because it's like even sometimes hours later I regret my decision to cut them off and then want them back in my life. Thankfully over the last year I have been able to curb that behavior with just keeping it to my thoughts as I said feeling I just shouldn't be outspoken or speak anymore and not going out and saying "well I guess that's that then and we will never talk again".
I think for now I am going to leave it with what I said and in a week maybe reach out again to him.
Thank you, it wasn't easy at all and took a lot of work to get here. I definitely wouldn't be the way I am without my current priest, he helped push me to change and supported me a lot.
You have to be true to yourself. That’s really all that matters. I lost a longtime friend over Jan 6. I posted about it back then. It sucks. He’s in a group of close friends and we used to all do things together. Guess who doesn’t get invited, or gets invited but declines because he called me a violent extremist? That was for having conservative values, always supporting Trump and NOT being at the Capitol. I wasn’t there! I didn’t support any of the capitol breach. I never said a word about it to anyone and I’m guilty by association. I’ve been called all kinds of horrifying stuff by him since then. What sucks even more is that my other friends don’t take a stand because they don’t want further division. I served my country. I came back with disabilities. I struggle. Yet I’m the bad guy. I will never let go of my principles, though. I sleep well at night knowing I’m not all the things we loathe about the left and also that God is good and He knows what is best for me. I pray for his guidance all the time.
Many years ago I ditched Fakebook and don’t have social media. I have friends far and wide because of moving and military and I haven’t had trouble keeping touch. Same goes for family. We text. We call. People are amazed when they get snail mail from me. I started writing family in boot camp and it was all we had. But it became a therapy of sorts. I’ve written so many letters. My mom was showing me some humorous ones from boot camp the other day. But the thing is- you can survive and you’ll absolutely feel better without social media. You mention your BPD. I truly feel that social media makes anxiety and depression so much worse. The clicks. The likes. The comparisons to everyone else’s carefully curated pages. Fuuuuk that. Do something for yourself. Try some hobbies. Music. Reading books. There is a huge life out there that is forgotten.
But as far your friend- there isn't anything you can do but stick to your principles. That friend may be lost forever. But there are other friends to be gained. I’ve made new ones. There is always hope. There is always God and you will feel better after social media. I promise. I really hope someday we can actually get together and have networks of friends from here. Hang in there. Don’t get discouraged. We have your back here.
Well said
Maybe he's in the heat of the moment give it time maybe he'll be more reasonable soon.
If people were not opionated then social media would be fairly quiet!
Your friend can believe whatever he wants but if it conflicts with reality then it will cause problems at some point. Those twelve jurors are the only impartial people in the world who have heard (just) the relevant facts. The judge and attorneys should have shielded them from any irrelevant ones and they decided that Rittenhouse was innocent of all charges.
I don't think you should feel bad for highlighting a fact.
You can’t always help someone Awaken. They’ll only awaken when ready or capable. Some will not be regardless. And they will be lost or shunned. It’s not your place to choose. You are in the right place and of mind frame Anon. Bathe in the light and God bless you.
Sheesh, I have lost 100s of "friends" during the past 5 years and my mother, father, sister.. I would say you are doing just fine ... I compare this to friends that you drink with and when you quit drinking they all forget about you because of sobriety...They are not true friends!
Your friend lives in a state of dillusion. Don't blame yourself.
That about the trash...
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It's sad but a lot of times people want people to stay in a role forever. If you're the "helpee" how can you be right about anything? Sometimes the hardest part about growth is that people around you sometimes don't want it for you. He sounds very insecure if he can't have his ideas challenged with information.
No. It's high time we all speak our truth. You're going to feel worse and worse by continuing to hold your tongue. Try it on for size and you'll soon see what I'm saying.
Fuck that guy.
Anyone that is that fucking brain dead is a liability.
Get off social media.
Full stop.
If this friend was really a friend, you would not have to rely on Facebook to keep in contact...
I do not have any mental health issues or disorders and I felt crazy looking at my timelines on fb before deleting my profile. I can't imagine how it could exacerbate a mental disorder if I did have one. Seriously delete it. If you can't make a promise to yourself to not post anything for a day or two, then a week or two, and you'll see how little you'll miss it.
I am for the most part off social media I think this week has been the most I have been on, all of September I was off was on a couple of times in October. I mostly use it to keep in contact with priest and a few others via messenger. I think over all it taught me a lesson that I should go back to how I was being away from it before.
Borderline.
Thanks, it looked weird to me but I thought it was just me.