The US Navy ordered a safety stand-down for the entire submarine force on Wednesday in response to the results of an investigation into an incident last month in the South China Sea.
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On October 2, the powerful Seawolf-class nuclear-powered attack submarine USS Connecticut collided with an object, the Navy said in a statement five days after the incident as the damaged $3 billion submarine limped into port in Guam.
The Navy provided only limited information, revealing only that the submarine was stable, there were no life-threatening injuries, and that the nuclear systems on board were not affected. The sea service did not say where the incident occurred, but officials revealed it happened in the South China Sea.
In early November, the Navy finished its initial investigation into the accident, concluding that the submarine ran into an uncharted seamount. That report has not been publicly released, and the causes that led to the collision and the crew’s responses afterwards remain unknown.
Days later, Vice Adm. Karl Thomas, the commander of US 7th Fleet, decided to fire the command leadership of the Connecticut.
The commanding officer, Cmdr. Cameron Aljilani, as well as Lt. Cmdr. Patrick Cashin, the executive officer, and Master Chief Sonar Technician Cory Rogers, the chief of boat, were all relieved due to loss of confidence.
“The Seawolf-class fast-attack submarine USS Connecticut (SSN-22) struck an object while submerged on the afternoon of Oct. 2, while operating in international waters in the Indo-Pacific region. The safety of the crew remains the Navy’s top priority. There are no life-threatening injuries,” Capt. Bill Clinton told USNI News. “The submarine remains in a safe and stable condition. USS Connecticut’s nuclear propulsion plant and spaces were not affected and remain fully operational. The extent of damage to the remainder of the submarine is being assessed. The U.S. Navy has not requested assistance. The incident will be investigated.”
Note the Captain is named Bill Clinton
https://news.usni.org/2021/10/07/breaking-attack-submarine-uss-connecticut-suffers-underwater-in-pacific
In subsequent articles in other media, Bill Clinton's name was removed. There was an article that ran I think in Fortune by the guy who was the columnist who writes about military affairs. He referred to the captain as just the captain. But you could easily look up and see the commander was Alijani. There is no way someone who writes on military affairs would not know that (or it was edited out by someone else).
You know how the symbolism guy writes about nuclear comms? Explosive Info? I wonder if the firing of the crew - now named in the thread article - plays into this?
Oh yes read his in-depth info all the time
are you infering the capt of the connecticut was listed as bill clinton?
The Navy's official spokesperson was a dude called Bill Clinton with the rank of Captain. Subs do NOT have Captains. They have Commanders.
look it up.
please tell me the USS Harvey Milk is ok
USS Liberace is doing well so is the USS Queer Eyes.
I think the Sub just made the Harvey Milk go, "Darn, I wish it was me what ran into a Sea Mount."
I wonder how deep this story goes.
Cameron = camera on.
From comms, it sounds like the cashing in portion has been neutralized, Bill Clinton (and maybe Maxwell) having figured/participated in the op. Now the ops are changing focus?
Aljilani? Jill? Maybe Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan, where it's a normal surname?
Nice! ☝🏼
This is the only article that says the Captain was named Bill Clinton.
https://forbesactuaries.com/commander-cameron-aljilani-and-two-other-officers-sacked-over-uss-connecticut-submarine-accident/
Every other article I have read says it was Cameron Aljilani
I thought Capt. Bill Clinton was the capt. that ran into the surface ship in Pacific a while back.
Then they have edited articles, because more than one article at the time said Clinton. At the time, I was wondering if the article was a comm saying that Clinton was hurt (by Durham or something)… and then several days after that article Clinton was admitted to the hospital.
Here’s my IG post on that, which has a screenshot of article stating Clinton….
https://www.instagram.com/p/CUwes0FrnvF/?utm_medium=copy_link
Facepalm. Captain Clinton was the navy spokesperson who made the announcement, and has nothing to do with crew on the vessel. Subs have Commanders, not Captains.
Dug on this a month or so back.
WTAF KEK
https://forbesactuaries.com/commander-cameron-aljilani-and-two-other-officers-sacked-over-uss-connecticut-submarine-accident/
The CO was Cameron Aljilani
Doesnt say that. Commander is a Navy rank, compounding the confusion? I dont see why they wouldn't fire the ship's commanding officer.
the top ranking person in command of a vessel is known as the captain of a ship, regardless of actual rank. not that they attain the naval rank of captain. submarine captains usually hold the naval rank of commander. not sure if it is you that needs this info or others here, just wanted to state it.
A few articles I read says 3 were relieved from duty.
Already proven wrong. Dug on it when this story first broke.
Bill Clinton is the name of the Navy spokesman who announced the information in the press issuance. His rank is captain.
Submarines do NOT have Captains, they have Commanders.
corrupt female metallurgist + muslim commander Aljilani = go woke, get sub broke
Approved by BO.
Heads are going to roll.
Dont count on that
That may be the most SAUCED bad ass post I’ve ever seen in my life thank you for the straight up facts fren!!!
SAUCED TO THA GILLS
"Uncharted Seamount"? How did sonar not detect an underwater mountain?
Because 99% of the time active sonar is not in use. Only passive. Any transmissions are a counter detection threat. So you only go active in very specific instances. It’s rare.
The fact that they did fire the sonar chief, for something that would usually be a navigation problem, makes me believe there is more to the story.
Yup, active sonar pings give away position.
Because the Chinese and the rest of the cabal built it and it was found…
Shit runs downhill.
Ok, just starting to look into this but present day undersea charts are made by satellite imagery - generally - and (I believe) as a consequence US Naval charts would be complete, comprehensive and accurate. Thus an "uncharted" seamount smells fishy to me.
Did a lot of ocean sailing (under sail) but that was 40 years ago. The charts we used back then were often sketchy. But this is today, and things are a lot different.
Bathymetry is the science.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1877705815019815
A bit more research and it is clear the seafloor is NOT entirely mapped - if fact frr from it so there may have been an uncharted sea mount:
Despite modern computer-based research, the ocean seabed in many locations is less measured than the topography of Mars.[1]
The Nippon Foundation-GEBCO Seabed 2030 Project, which aims to motivate a number of collaborators to create a full map of the ocean floor, was launched in 2016.[12] There are four Seabed 2030 centres, which coordinate mapping activities in different regions, gather and compile the bathymetric information, and partner with existing mapping activities within their regions. The Seabed 2030 Global Center is responsible for "producing and delivering global GEBCO products".[13]
GEBCO stands for General Bathymetric Chart of the Oceans. It is the only intergovernmental body with a mandate to map the whole ocean floor. At the beginning of the project, only 6 per cent of the world's ocean bottom had been surveyed to today's standards; as of June 2020, the project had recorded 19 per cent mapped. About 14,500,000 square kilometres (5,600,000 sq mi) of new bathymetric data was included in the GEBCO grid in 2019. Satellite technology, using altimeters that infer seafloor topography from the way its gravity affects the surface of the ocean above it, but it does not give a sufficiently high resolution. Seabed 2030 aims to achieve a resolution of at least 100m over every part of the ocean floor.[12]
What about the bad steel thing? Is it possible it didn't really hit anything it just went too deep down and part of the hull gave way because its made with substandard steel? If true they would need to check the whole fleet to be sure each ship had good or bad steel in its hull???