I have 3 young cousins that I adore and I know i'm going to be the one to look after them soon as their parents are fully jabbed and already unwell as it is. Their parents are against the vax but took it to keep their job, so they said. Today one of my cousins spent Christmas day inside because she was sick. When I asked what was wrong with her they just said oh she's just had a bad stomach ache the past couple days, only for my 6 year old cousins to blurt out NO MUM SHE WAS SICK SINCE SHE GOT THE COVID VACCINE. My heart sunk as they promised they would never vax the kids. I know a lot of us have been through a lot and i'm not down playing anyone else's problems but i've been going though some SERIOUS shit fighting this covid tyranny, like they tried to give me 13 years for "domestic terrorism" kind of shit (i live in australia) and all my family members know this. What do I do here? Do I confront them and make sure they don't give her the second? They aren't my kids but fucking hell I can't just sit by and watch my family members kill eachother. If you guys have any info that might convince them out of the second shot, any vax remedies, literally anything. just need some help :(
merry christmas americafags x
dw i love the text walls lol. you're right, think im gonna have to go with option 3. at least our day of vindication is coming soon. so sorry to hear about your situation thats fucked. god bless
Dude I recall your story about “telstra”…that is, WHOA!!! When Starlink goes online maybe you can ditch them? I dunno. God Bless ALL our Aussie/NZ/EU/Canadian Bros & Sisters!!! sigh
Man I wanna test drive that starlink ASAP. May mean off the grid awesomeness for me.
Same here!! I wanna ditch my ISP SO BAD!!!
I usually skip over them but I read this one so intently I didn’t realize it was a text wall lol - where the fuck are we right now as a society??!
For me, I only let those people into my life that have their shit together. I'll reject anyone who is willingly blind. I won't hang with liberals or befriend them. So I don't have the aggravation. For 40 years my family demonized me among themselves. They hate it doesn't bother me not to have them in my life. Hence I'm way better off
It really sounds rough to have to go no contact with your family.
Same situation with my niece, though a different context. She began to verbally berate and yell abuse at me on the phone, for no reason whatsoever. My niece is addicted to methamphetamines for her "adhd," which is a screen for her getting prescription speed. I hung up on her. I will not take verbal abuse from anyone.
She's vaxxed, her mom (my sister) is vaxxed, and they vaxxed my grandnephew. They don't want me at holiday gatherings because I'm vaccine free. That's okay with me, as I prefer to spend holidays with sane people, and will be with my true family (my friends) this afternoon to celebrate Christmas.
Don't engage, don't try to inject your opinion into this, this is a tragedy that she's vaccinating her children, but you cannot control what other people do. Remember that vaccinated people are like walking time bombs, they will be afflicted with autoimmune disorders (viral infections and cancers) along with all the other more obvious problems we've seen. So, like you say, all you can do is pray for them.
*May God have mercy on the vaccinated, and may God especially have mercy on parents who vaccinate their children before the age of consent! *
My niece tried to commit me commit me to a psych hospital recently after my husband died and our identities were stolen along with everything else and she said I wasn’t mourning properly. She’s a big time lib and junkie. She’s claiming she wants to help me. Good riddance.
Jesus fucking Christ that's fucked up. I at least hope you went no-contact with her.
Sure did. I’m no glutton for punishment…
That’s so messed up…I’m so sorry you have to go through that. Yes, stay away. Best way to handle that. Prayers
On the surface, it seems to me that you should call CPS on this situation, because it could scare the shitty parents into adjusting their behavior, at least. Maybe. Even if it makes you 'the enemy'. Saying and doing nothing, is being complicit, really.
A very great evil is at work towards our children in this world.
Pray for guidance. ASK for help with this situation. You'll get it.
And God bless and help this sweet child you talk about.
Cps is a farce, they have a goal of taking kids away from unsafe parents and placing them in foster care or orphanages with known abusers being paid to damage the kids.
It sounds like a lot of us are deprogramming from bad and/or unique parenting.
Don't mean to slag you, but unique parenting is a bad fucking joke. Seems like me and rooftop have had to deal with narc parents. One of the last times I went to see my dad in the hospital, I brought a few things for him including a change of clothes. He was sleeping and I didn't want to wake him up, so I just went home. Almost got home, he calls me and bitches at me that I left, then said "goodbye, SoMuch." If that's not a piece of shit parent, I don't know what is. Narc, gaslighting, passive/aggressive, he never should have married or had kids.
Everyone’s situation is different. My parents/ family is Deep State/MKU/MONARCH. I come at things from a slightly different viewpoint.
It really sucks.
IMHO don't call cps. If they have some level of mental health issues....they will turn on you like a cornered animal. Next, they will lie to authorities to get back at you. That can get expensive for lawyers and investigators to "prove" your innocence.
If someone is proud of what they've done, they don't hide it from the world. The very fact that the parents lied and said their child was sick with a stomach ache, instead of saying the child had a reaction to the jab speaks volumes. They know they made a grave mistake and are ashamed and embarrassed to admit it.
I beseeched my daughter in law, please do not vaxx the kids. I pursued this about my precious great grandson as well, with his mom. Neither would give me a promise I wanted. I don't have anything else I can do to protect them. My son is as anti-vaxx as I am, but his estranged wife (my DIL) takes the kids to a dr. who push, push pushes the vaxx at them...My son filed a complaint against the doctor. It is the tribal medical system. I pray to God, to just get through this passage in our lives without EVIL and ignorance destroying people I love. Both women in this comment, work at hospitals. Brainwashed. Pathetic. Also, one is now testing again and my GGS (age 4) and her husband (my GS) for covid as he is ill. He had covid twice before. Then got the jabs. And now? Still has to be tested for covid? This world is going through a period of utter insanity, stupidity, and terror.
If you can get them to listen to the Joe Rogan podcast with Dr. McCullough they may learn a few things from a fellow medical professional. And, it’s about as mainstream media as our side is allowed. At the least, they will learn they couldn’t have gotten COVID twice. Good luck fren
I heard from my daughter (20) yestereve that she got jabbed at school party, the had jabbing team there. I have not recovered yet, just... baffled. Tell peer pressure from morons...
Well that’s one of the most bizarre things I’ve heard in bit, and I read a lot of bizarre things.
Ugh back in my day we just shot up meth, we didnt have these crazy vaccination parties.
Yeah. School is art university...
F-art.
When all else fails and you reach the very bottom. It becomes easier to see the truth that was always there. The only way is to seek God and prayer.
They can twist your words. They can destroy your character. They can lie and cheat. No matter what we do to try and combat that they can twist it to whatever they want.
Your strongest defense is your stand with God. That become the strongest offense of all. The thing is you don't control that offense. You can only control your seeking after God.
I know that has been my life. I do not know all the answers. All I know is what God has done for me.
When I gave up and turned to Him he changed everything.
You do that and you keep trusting no matter what. There is a way to test God.
Give first to him in any way He puts on your heart. He will destroy the devourer in your life.
Thank you for your wise words.
Stay out of it and Pray for the best...
You're not going to change their mind. Theyve already got the jab, they're covidians now.. Once you sign up you've agreed to the endless booster program. No amount of redpilling will bring them to the other side. Same shit in my family, I've just let them get on with it as there's nothing really we can do. People need to experience their own awakening otherwise they just don't give a shit.
not true. Many double jabbers have said never again to boosters & some refuse to "show papers" on principle
I know several people that were single or double that have also changed their mind and are adamant they will no longer comply.
Although in both cases they or someone they know experienced adverse events. One has been generally unwell periodically ever since and altered menstrual cycle, the other his brother in law died of a "heart attack" 5 days after jab 2. He had a migraine and chest pain following the jab which worsened over 5 days. Eventually went to hospital and died 20 mins within getting in the door. Family has requested a full autopsy as they aren't satisfied with the explanation.
The whole time i have been against it. I do not preach about it but I make it known in as calm and informed manner as possible if anyone asks me about it. More and more people are coming to me in private for more information. I spent 2 years reading literally everything I can and do so daily about this bullshit. It's taken aalot of self control and practice to drip feed people info and to not scare people by going too deep too quick. I know many have already had the jab and it's entirely possible their immune systems are fucked forever or are now susceptible to further disease but I won't ostracise or turn my back on people that made a wrong decision. The media and gov have done an incredibly thorough job of making it seem like this is all above board.
Thanks for trying to wake people in a way that might work. You are doing the long hard work. TY. I was trying to give eye droppers of info to someone I know who is very pro jab & in a position where they could effect policy. I know what you mean about self control, smh. I'd write long letters & reread & take 90% out. lol If I come in too strong I could lose them.
According to Dr Judy Mikovits, they might be ok if they don't take the booster
I also have young family members that had to get vaccinated because their parents suck big pharmas d*ck. We need to be praying God protects these children from the harm brought upon them by the ones who are supposed to care for them the most.
I am so very sorry for you and your family. I will pray for you and your loved ones. Merry Christmas ❤🙏🎄
I have changed my tactics for the most part from ‘explaining’, which coming from someone in the rabbit holes for 10 years to a completely oblivious turd makes you appear K a R a Z y.......to blunt passive aggressive sarcasm.
If you are blunt enough I think many can be scared into doing their own research. Like, if someone is virtue signaling their 1st booster shot, simply start walking away with an incredulous look on your face and say “Wow - sure hope you got the placebo and not the HIV vial”
My heart breaks as you endure this tragedy with your family. If adults make a choice that adversely affects them it is one thing but adults making choices that injure kids is SO wrong. Unfortunately they have drunk the kool-aid. Do you think your family would even take anything since they seem to be all-in with the vaxes? There have been lots of links posted about what you can take after the poison shot but I have not used anything for that. God has always answered my prayers about finding what I need medically when I need it so please take the time to consult Him. He has ALL the answers. Like you, I have been over all this a LONG time ago. God bless you and your family...God loves them so much more than you can ever imagine. Sometimes we need to endure and persevere and that is hard to do. I will certainly pray for your family.
they aren't stupid people so I think they'll be very open to hearing my case (again). Just need to bring a binder full of notes next time to ram the message through lol. Thanks for the message <3
I want to build a binder of evidence to keep around. I have researched much of this but find it hard to remember in the moment when I'm confronted with any opposition. I can explain the gist of it but all the good details are usually hard to recall.
When I go back for the sauce to send, it is scrubbed/gone or had so many mainstream articles saying that if you see this, beware that it is misinformation.
It's actually insane the level of knowledge you need to keep up to date with and have researched.
It's literally become a fulltime job for me ontop of my normal job and studying for something else at the same time.
You need to understand the basics of virology, immunology, epidemiology, reading medical journals, understanding enough about medical journals/stats to know when they are lying, or knowing enough about the subject to be aware of what they are NOT saying which is the revealing part. Msm, gov, how gov decisions are made, pharma, pharmas past crimes and how they relate, you need to have stats ready for all these things. Looked into masks, lockdowns, mrna therapy history, regular vaccine history.
Your also totally right that you need to come prepared to the table with the counter points that msm has made to attempt to debunk these points.
I am in the middle of my degree but the minute I get a chance to breath I am going to attempt to collate all my information gathered into an understandable way as a means of acting as a layman's guide to discussing this topic. The problem is that the info just keeps adding up. Literally everyday there is something new.
I think the only way to get good at this is to practice it. Even if it's In your own head. If someone says this to me what am I going to reply? Alot of info needs to be committed to memory as people are far more impressed/interested/believing of you if you can instantly tell them there and then the information. If you can then say here's the journal or paper that backs that up after the fact even better. I recommend looking at Facebook convos for the type of responses people will give. Type up responses to them as to how you would answer, but don't send it. Do it afew times and you start to get into the mind set. I'm no expert and it is often hard to keep your cool but that if anything is 100% the most Important thing.
Would you be open to listening to them ram their message of Pro Vax to you? Because that's what your going to get. Would YOU change your mind?
I mean... You can see this fight coming .. right?
As President Trump said (speaking on mandates) this week.. 'It's a personal decision people make and should be NOBODY elses business'.
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The rant is NOT directed at anyone in this thread but is something I have to get off my chest.
I have never backed down on any of this nonsense to any of my relatives. But I also don’t come at them like a crazy evangelist talking about certain doom and death from taking these things because, the truth is, most people who have taken them are just fine. I personally work in a situation with roughly 500 other people and not one of them has had an adverse event and all of them took it except for me and two other people. Doesn’t mean these things aren’t poison, doesn’t mean they aren’t dangerous, but it adds context that I think some people are missing so I want to talk about it. Because we often approach evangelizing our viewpoint without keeping that context in mind that, not yet, have people started dropping like flies. They will. But not yet. But most of the people in the truth community have absolutely no idea how to approach other people. They don’t, they do things without context.
Thousands have been murdered by these things, not millions. Not yet. So when you tell them they’re going to die with immediacy, and they are fine two months after the shot, you’re the one that’s nuts.
This is why I offend so many people, by endlessly insisting that we do a better job in this community of getting things right, stop talking out our asses about stuff we don’t actually understand, etc.
And we have people who de facto represent us who know absolutely nothing about vaccines, their mechanism, DNA, or the rules or regulations of the pharmaceutical industry, how studies are conducted, how they are published, making asses of themselves on a daily basis and making the rest of us look nuts. I’m the bad guy for pointing out when we should be doing better, but the credibility of all of us suffers. People get offended that I call out those who completely wrecked our credibility, but I’m not the one wrecking our credibility. I don’t speak about something to normies unless I have something intelligent to say on the subject. I’ll jump in on conversations in places like this when maybe I’m not qualified because I know you people will correct me and I’ll learn from. But that’s not how you approach Normies unless you want to come off like a nut case.
We have a number of “experts“ in virology and epidemiology, DNA and genetics apparently, around here, who say some of the most earth shatteringly stupid things I’ve ever seen on the Internet - because they parrot what they saw in a video - and I can’t even believe their family would ever sit down with them and talk about any of this.
Here’s the part where you all hate me and I get banned: that’s not on them, that’s on you. You are the one who did that. You’re the one that put them in a position to think you’re nuts.
I’ve cut my family out of my life by my choice. Not because they think I’m some kind of wacko. Generally speaking if your family thinks you are nuts, there’s something wrong with the way you approach them. Or they never trusted you in the first place. Can you even imagine someone complaining that their entire family thinks they are crazy and not figuring out that that’s at least partially their own fault? It’s like that guy at work who insists that everyone else is an asshole. Most families don’t just turn their backs on people and call them lunatics for fun. It takes a little something.
If there are subjects that I am not qualified to speak about, I will find someone else who does a better job of it, with credentials, and show them what that person has to say about it. I don’t just go running with every stupid meme or video that I come across because 90+ percent of them are full of mistakes and bullshit. They just are. And we end up looking ridiculous. Even many of these illustrious doctors whose tweets and comments support things we believe… well… some just aren’t very smart, or their credentials have been exaggerated, and when we pass along information with obvious glaring holes in it, that doesn’t just reflect poorly on them it reflects poorly on us for sharing it. We need to be more selective.
I think many of the problems we have proselytizing for our cause comes from our inability to recognize that we might be in over our heads on a subject or that we too often push information that actually isn’t very well presented or is full of enough inaccuracies and holes that it takes away all of our credibility. We need more discernment, and again, I’ll be the bad guy for saying that. That we should have higher standards than they do, that we should be more honest than they are, we should have our ducks in a row better than they do, those are the high standards I have or I won’t talk on a subject. But then people get mad at me for saying we should have those high standards. OK, if that’s the case, then enjoy having no credibility with your family.
Just the other day, that video of the woman in CVS, there were a number of statements made in the video and made about the video that are wildly inaccurate, have easy explanations, and when we share stuff like that it really truly makes us look stupid to people who actually have experience in the pharmaceutical industry, epidemiology, virology, etc.
Some of the things she said were so shockingly ignorant of the way studies work, information is presented to consumers at that level, and the responsibilities of the pharmacist that my hand was on my forehead for the entire video. And yet here we are, thousands of us passing it along as if it’s some amazing “gotcha” moment when it’s not. It really isn’t.
I don’t know a damn thing about astronomy. I’m not going to go up to an astronomer with what I think are pointed or trick questions or leading questions to try to make a point in a video and then pass it along once I get what I think I’m looking for. I don’t know enough to even know if what I think I’m getting is good info. Or accurate. I know better than to mess with that. I’ll get embarrassed because I’ll say something incredibly stupid about astronomy because I, again, know nothing about it.
We need more discernment, we need to be more careful, because our credibility is a precious commodity that many in our community tried to give away over the last five years in particular. We really need to stop doing that.
Well damn. That was one hell of a post. If I wasn't absolutely positive I didn't go on a bender last night, I would almost believe that I was drunk posting (quite eloquently) under someone else's name.
Have to say I agree with pretty much everything you said there.
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Well said.
So to sum up what you just said: Silence is golden unless you're an authority on gold...
I absolutely agree with your sentiments and message.
It's hard for people though that they feel deep down they know the vaccines are dangerous, they may not know why or the reasons they say its dangerous are not the real reasons or atleast the technicaly correct means of explaining it, but ultimately they just want to stop their loved ones from being hurt, I can absolutely understand that but like you said. Convincing someone of something is a skill in and of itself of it is not done in a very nuanced way then it just comes across as crazy at which point you've lost them.
Your also spot on about the numbers. While deaths and injuries are completely unacceptably high and should never have reached this point in the first place, people are not dying in their millions from it. It is going to be a slow burner and even then its going to be hidden behind a million different things that they can and will blame on other things. Heart attack, heart disease, etc etc. If we are lucky this won't even happen. I think it's unlikely there won't be long term worse effects but it's entirely possible. One thing that stuck with me in the Peter McCulloch podcast with rogan, the body is remarkably resilient and an amazing self healer. I don't want people to have problems in the future just so I can say I told you so.
All that being said, the fight for our bodily autonomy is no less important just because it is not killing millions (probably yet). It is still a hill I am willing to die on.
But OP can always fall back on "99.9% survival rate".
If they aren't stupid people than you need to find the chink in their mental narrative about covid. The things that when they see it themselves, they'll start to see the dissonance in their "facts".
Although I can't help you that much, as I don't know the extent of their own personal knowledge.
Also tell them about informed consent and what it means. Japan now requires informed consent, and all "vax" require warning labels and shit.
That's a cool idea: Kayleigh McEnany the shit out of them!
She needs to see a dr ASAP. Dear friends 45 year old son was diagnosed with a stomach tumor/cancer in nov and died five days ago after his second chemo. They have all taken the vax...they are all Trump supporters but know next to nothing about side effects because they only listen to fox. Soft tissue cancers are on the rise, and no I said nothing to them. Losing a child is a hell unto itself and they don't need the extra burden. Someday maybe but speculation can't solve anything now. Good luck and pray.
Ivermectin, suramin and pine needle tea are counter measures for the jab.
Even if that is true, it will not remove the jab from the person. Once you are genetically altered, you are now life-long dependent on treatment to counter it.
Perhaps. There's alot of arguments, almost too many to count. Even if the follow three are processed, it's still better than none. We'll just have to see what actual affects stay around from mRNA injections 3-5 years from now.
The graphene oxide side of the jab can be treated by oral NAC and activated charcoal.
The parasitic side of the jab can be treated by ivermectin, suramin, pine needle.
The viral side of the jab can be treated by hydroxchloroquine (acting az a zinc ionophore, a zinc booster if you will) and zinc.
I want you to be right. I pray it is so.
My opinion here: the genetic alteration is not necessarily permanent. That’s why they need you on boosters. The efficacy wanes because your body slowly defeats the vax, because God is smarter than the monsters.
Oh my how I HATE these EVIL people putting us though hell.
Praying for your family fren...🙏💔
I hope you see this. This video is hard hitting and will upset due to the upsetting nature of what the jab is doing. The Dr is very passionate and concerned to the point of anger.
https://brandnewtube.com/watch/the-vaccines-are-killing-people-dr-bhakdi-explains-the-clear-and-alarming-evidence_H8ivfNam5wxNsBS.html
Merry Christmas fren. WWG1WGA
Kind of nervous because my brother was boosted last Monday and he and his wife are coming for Christmas lunch. Praying he won't shed and spread.
We have some, thanks!
my condolences friend, this is all too common. Its sad that people have to experiment on their kids to find out that experimenting on kids is bad. After seeing the effects first hand, I dont know if theres anything you could say. Honestly just being there for the kids as a gentle voice of reason may be the best you can do
I am so sorry. I understand though. People I love got the jab.
Im glad you're getting sympathy. I've been talking about how my four friends (they're like family) got the Vax after Trump said it was safe and all I've gotten on this board are people calling them stupid and me a fag.
Glad sympathy's possible for people afraid of losing loved ones like you, even if not for me.
Merry christmas.
Simplest thing is to ignore the haters here, fren.. dont give them another thought.
They simply frustrated, lacking empathy or have forgot WWG1WGA.
Literally only one person, you, has not treated me for derision when I pointed out my confusion about Trump. Ignoring the haters is hard when they're almost ALL haters.
Idk man. I know where we go one we go all too. But like, it's really shitty to be gaslit. I'm not the one promoting the vax. Trump did, with his massive platform. And people think I'm more to blame than he is for not "trying hard enough" to stop them when I shouted myself hoarse.
It's not right and it's not fair. Im just talking confusion and Im called a shill.
I'm in the same boat. Just watching my family slowly kill themselves. Everyone is sick all the time now. It's my entire family. Literally every single member is double vaxxed and boosted. The future looks cloudy...
Show them the interview with McCullough on the Dark Horse Podcast. They talk about vaccinating kids. Also, this article.
I’m losing everyone. Everyone.
The vaxxed truly believe that it isn’t harmful. Even if they were awake before. They jab their kids and go into denial because by their own words, if I’m right, it is unthinkable.
There’s nothing I can do. Nothing can stop what is coming.
Death.
But I will survive. Don’t care how. Fight. Hide. Whatever it takes. And there will be a girl who is the same as me. Rare, but somewhere out there. I will find her and love her and I will live in love the rest of my days. So will she.
Hope.
It is all we have left. And those genocidal satanist masons can never take that away from us.
I have read "suramin" is the cure, but don't have the link.
Can you get your hands on N-acetyl cysteine? My understanding is that it helps mitigate the effects. I have nicely ("Oh, you're sick? Here, let me get you some nice orange juice and vitamins and chicken noodle soup!") given sick family members that along with other vitamins, never saying WHY. Got one of them to take ivermectin without him realizing that in addition to the parasites he thought he had (because he was so sick) it too mitigates the effects of that vax.
I never tell them why. If they knew they'd refuse.
You have to confront them, unfortunately. This is all about saving a d safeguarding our future, the children of the World.
I am so sorry for what you are going through. Just want to say that please pray to our Lord, He always gives me the strength to keep going, he will help you. Also, I believe there are angels like in this special place that will guide you to heal your family. I will pray for your family and I know everything will be alright. God bless your family.
There are various post-vax decontamination suggestions floating around the web. I don't have the bookmarked or handy, but definitely some on the .win sites.
It's time we start helping them figure out what will help them as much as possible.
Vit A, C, D, E, IVM, Magnesium, Potassium, Etc
Help her with her sickness. Give her some VIT c, Vit D, pine needle tea, NAC .. and watch her mysteriously improve
I am sorry your going through that. Prayers to you and your family.
Start by explaining that this is something worth taking at least part of a day to really think about. And then hit her with the reasons why the vaccine is unnecessary and dangerous. And the more sources you can provide to backup your claims, the better.
I don’t know about anyone else, but I would never tell anyone to get the vaccine.
Your battles are the toughest. As God says, I give the hardest battles to my best warriors.
You have to do whatever you can for those kids. You know the situation best, so do what you think is right. Personally I was ask for a sit down talk and get them to admit what they did and decide now is the time to fight for all the other kids.
On another note, this is a perfect example of leftist breeding, lying to you to "tell you what you want to hear" about claiming to be against the jab, but then lying AGAIN about the visible health issues they bestowed upon a little one with their fucked up decision to force a child to get this vaccine.
The moral here is you don't really know what people think unless they are acting repeatedly like they claim. In this case, actively texting and posting anti-covid vaccine awareness instead of the passing action to agree with you when you're around.