Just going to walk in to work and refuse outright to wear a mask. I have a voice recorder that I plan on bringing with as well. I'm going to start doing my job without a mask, refuse to wear one, and tell them to give me a written letter of termination otherwise.
EDIT: Guys, prayers worked, SCOTUS didn't completely betray us all
Definetley do not walk out or resign, make them sack you, then go get a lawyer!
Yep, this I know. I also know that I have to legally state my intention to record the conversation and get consent to do so.
Prays sent fren
It depends what state you are in.
If your state is a "one party consent" state you do not need to get their consent to record the conversation (you are the one party that has already consented to the recording).
https://www.mwl-law.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/RECORDING-CONVERSATIONS-CHART.pdf
You are not on the phone. Undercover surveillance doesn't require an announcement that you are doing it or that you require anyone's permission to do so. Don't blow your cover.
When I'm forced to, where other family members are involved, I wear a clear plastic mask I made from some food-grade wrapping plastic, packaging tape, and the cut-off ear elastic bands off the typical slave mask.
I had to use a soldering iron and some metal heat plates (so the plastic doesn't burn in direct contact with the iron nib) to melt the edges, reinforced it with the packaging tape, and fused the ear bands in with a good pressing of the soldering iron on the metal plate.
So, basically, it looks well-manufactured, and identical in design to a cloth mask but it is clear plastic, so see-through.
I breathe fine in it, as the masks don't work anyway, and all the air comes in from the top and the sides. Again, no fundamental difference in design from the cloth and china-made masks.
I was confronted by a nurse who tried to go Karen on me in the hospital, and she told me to wear a cloth mask.
I could, boldly, respond "My mask works better than yours, it's solid plastic" and she was shut down only able to reply back "we're not gonna have that argument right now." She later called security to hunt me down and demand I put on a cloth slave mask. I put it on over my plastic one in defiance. I still could breathe fine.
Sometimes, you gotta get clever and over-indulge in their stupidity to the point they start to realize exactly how stupid they are being.
Consider this popular passage from Matthew 5:
Jesus isn't telling us to give in.
He's telling us to be defiant.
In antiquity, someone would slap you on the right cheek (backhand) with their left hand (the hand they wipe shit with) to show you are less than them and a lousy peasant. By offering your left cheek, you require them to use their right hand, which bears their signet ring (old-timey ID). Doing that meant they would have to put you on their level and slap you like they would a noble.
If someone demands your shirt and you offer them your cloak as well, that leaves you naked. The spectacle of a noble requiring another to strip in the street would give everyone the impression that they have gone mad and are going tyrannical. You expose them publicly for being a no-good authoritarian crazy enough, and possibly gay enough, to require men strip naked before them.
If someone forces you to go one mile carrying their luggage, then keep walking and go an extra mile. If they only wanted you to carry it for a mile, it means their destination is only in a mile. By going two miles, and dropping their crap off in the next town over, you will have required them to pick up the junk and walk back to their intended location a whole mile anyways.
Jesus was being facetious with this parable, and it has since been lost in translation for the obvious reasons.
If someone requires you to bend, bend further than they would want. Go crazy on them, and make a spectacle of their unreasonable and tyrannical demands of you.
That's the only way to get them to realize and be embarrassed about how psycho-bitch Karen they've become.
Nice, you might get flack from some people for complying at all, but they probably don't understand that you should defy where you can when you can. Sometimes you have to comply in order to do what needs to be done. in this case, I assume you ended up complying in order to visit someone at the hospital or something similar. I know one person on here who wouldn't like this idea. but I think they are simpleminded or oversimplifying the situations people have. You need to comply in some situations like I have to give up my right to bear a firearm when I visit my brother in prison. I resist up until I am placed into a position where I either comply or I give up something else important, such as visiting a family member in a prison, or hospital.
I believe you are correct. Life is a navigation and we must each choose for ourselves the hills we are willing to die on. So we need to make it count.
When I absolutely have to wear a face covering I am at least going to do it in such a way that does not harm me physically. Plus it does snap people awake at the same time. I have an N95 mask that has a personal HEPA filter that pumps filtered air to the mask. When someone asks about it I can simply tell them that masks do not protect them and they are sucking up all their own toxic exhalations. That, according to OSHA air quality standards, is not healthy. The expressions on their faces at that point are priceless.
My personal HEPA filter will remove particles down to about 1 micron, the size of some of these so called infectious particles. In addition, it gives me cleaner air that is pumped into my mask creating a positive air flow. This is opposite of what everyone around me is doing making their lungs work harder trying to breath in their own exhaled CO2 and sucking in the unfiltered surrounding air - creating a negative air flow. It does get people's attention and they don't know what to say. It certainly gives them something to consider. So, like @sleepydude states, if we much comply, go further. Sometimes that action in the end will do more to wake others up than defiance.
sounds good, I am too cheap for that, I have a very thin gaitor mask I got for free.
I really do get the cheap thing. But, I have had to do this out of necessity. Over 25 years in health care wearing a mask has left ifs effects. I am to the point now where I cannot wear a mask of any kind without struggling to breath and feeling claustrophobic. I know noid colleagues that are double masking with an N95 and a surgical mask and are also wearing face shields. It is insane. The acidity from breathing in all the CO2 for years was showing up in my bloodwork - I just didn't put the pieces together. I was also getting a narcolepsy of sorts - always tired and struggled to stay awake in the middle of the day. Driving in the late afternoon became scary. I racked my brains considering everything but those damn masks. Even put myself through a sleep study and no problems there. I am just upset that I didn't figure it all out sooner.
Anyway, glad to hear you have your own solution - and it didn't cost you a dime - even better. Those gaitors are easy to pull up and down versus traditional surgical type masks. They sure do look better too. Nice when you can get them with really thin material. Plus, I like the idea of something that is cloth that I can wash myself rather than those cheap masks coming out of China. Seen some of those masks under a high power microscope and it is the stuff nightmares are made of. The masks I wear at work are made with ultra hypersensitive materials. They seem to be far cleaner than what everyone else is wearing. For everyday regular use around the Karens, I like your idea.
I like how on long flights, I can rotate the mask so I'm not breathing on the same area.
Thank you for being reasonable. I bought a product at Christmas for family members who at times have to mask; flying for business, etc. Can breath comfortably; woman's lace style calls no attention to the holes in them. https://www.getunmask.com/ (have no interest in this company; just passing along)
Wow I really like that Sleepydude. Nice work, fren.
Nice interpretations to those sayings of the Master. Thank you for taking the time to elaborate.
Just a little correction on the "carry their luggage" example.
In Roman times, a member of the Roman military, while travelling, had the legal right to demand a non-citizen to carry their luggage for a mile. There were milestone markers along the roads to assist with this.
Jesus wasn't telling us to cause the guy problems (we'd likely get skewered by the soldier), but instead to show our strength of character (meekness) by literally "going the extra mile" when we didn't have to. This would not be lost on the soldier, who was probably used to people performing their minimal duty.
In the long game, this wound up contributing to people looking upon Christians in a different light.
Yep. Don't play [their] game. Play yours. Good luck. Let us know what happens, yeah?
God bless and praying for a great outcome. Amen
Prayers, be strong.
Strength to you, Fren!
May the Lord be with you.
It may sound like an odd piece of advice given whats riding on this, but stay calm no matter what. Bored even, or at least with the appearance of such though you might be churning away inside.
Hysterics are for the idiots on the wrong side of this equation, and thats not us. If you have frens at the workplace who are perhaps mostly in our camp, it might not be a bad thing either to spend more time associating with them.
Prayers that God gives you the strength to do what is right. Stand up to the enemy. Godspeed, Fren.
Stay strong! I will pray for the peace of the Lord to be with you while you stand your ground. God is proud of you! 🙏
Made my point, told them what I thought about the masks, and that I feel like I am being discriminated against. Regional was called and told me over the phone that I could lose my job over this. Told him that threatening my job over this is an act of illegal medical coercion.
Went and put my USA flag gaiter on (upside down, nation in distress) and REFUSED to cover my nose. After 15 minutes I started struggling to breathe and took it off. Now I don't have to wear a mask in back.
Then I started having massive waves of headaches and stomach pain that have been going on for the last hour or so and actually caused her to call someone in to cover my shift for me because she could see I was legitimately struggling.
Told her straight up that I'm getting the fakest mesh net mask I can find, because anything else is going to cause my body to react like that.
Paintball masks are also used to mock policies too
Read the reviews here lol https://www.amazon.com/Tactical-Crusader-Airsoft-Strike-Steel/dp/B00EP6YW0Y/ref=sr_1_3?crid=1LPSZ0YQJRVMG&keywords=Paintball+mouth+guard&qid=1642094924&sprefix=paintball+mouth+guard%2Caps%2C74&sr=8-3
Thank you! gonna get 2!
I work with Covid patients in the hospital and we wear masks that severely limit breathing. You feel like you will pass out and you actually will pass out. We have respirators that you wear that are better. We have to wear these for tuberculosis also.
But we wear the cloth mask out of the Covid rooms and by about hour 9 out of 12 I get literally hostile over it. It makes my face hot and I feel not irritated but agitated. So when we chart we pull the masks down and I do it so often that I can’t recognize I’m pulling my mask down and not wearing it, it’s just a reaction to be comfortable or probably to breathe well.
No one in the hospital has said anything because they feel the same way. Patients haven’t said anything when I pull it down in rooms. No one.
We are all sick to death. The only time I try to wear it after I’ve had a mental breakdown at about hour 8 or 9 of wearing it is in the morning when management comes in. I know I’ve done this in front of them but they haven’t said anything as long as I wear the N95 in the Covid rooms. I think we are all up to fucking here with the masks and I was generally supportive in the early beginning before I knew that it caused insanity.
I can’t even tolerate wearing it under my nose. It’s rebreathing that hot air back in. It’s not that I’m out of breath. It’s that hot air on my face that makes me want to lose my shit.my suggestion for anyone else is to just pull it down under your chin for the most part and pull it back up when you are talking with someone. The point is to prevent droplets from flying out of your mouth on to another person. So logically why would you need to wear it when you aren’t on front of another person within 6 feet.
For the rest of you mask warriors, carry on. But just a suggestion that you can get away with it reasonably without any trouble as long as you are wearing it to walk in the hallway, but in your own space just pull that fucker under your chin, lol.
So that’s interesting you mention the stomach pain and headache I can understand but the stomach pain is curious.
There’s another nurse and we both get super nauseous when we are put with Covid patients. Like after an hour she’s in the BR throwing up and I’m taking nausea pills. At some point Covid is just part of our lives.
I’d rather get Covid for the fourth time than wear a mask but I know the mask wearing is recommended to protect others, not to protect myself. But seriously much of this was drawn in the beginning as an effort to end the pandemic. Moving forward they need to admit there’s no ending it, it’s now endemic and address the long term health outcomes whether it be discomfort or headache, in other situations this would be a hazard to get these symptoms because of a job.
Oh it’s fine just throwing up with a migraine at work. That’s fine now. Toughen up cupcake.
Problem is people will just get agitated and lose their shit and quit.
My position I believe masks work reasonably to protect others from large droplets so when you are sick wear one. Or I should wear one in front of my patients within six feet. That’s reasonable. But forcing a mask policy even when there’s not an outbreak, or in a wave in your area, these strategies should have been saved for these cases.
Just during a time it makes sense. The health officials don’t want to do their jobs and teach best practices during a time it’s needed so they blanketed the policy. Wear mask all the time forever! When even in an Ebola outbreak they taught when it’s appropriate to wear masks it wasn’t all the time for the rest of your life.
HOLD THE LINE Patriot! Prayers for you as you stand your ground. We Are With You fren.
Lil tears to witness individual Patriot bravery! The strongest prayers sent to surround you. 🙏
This is how we get rid of the crazy tyranny. Each gentle, deliberate step together! WWG1WGA 🇱🇷
You’re in my prayers
Prayers..and be strong
Tell them exactly why you are refusing, stating it is against your human rights or whatever. Find something valid. That way you hold more weight when suing since they were knowledgeable about what they were doing wrong.
Sending prayers. You are not alone! I know it’s hard. It’s stressful. But Gods got you. If there’s a Goliath in front of you, it means there’s a David within you.
Praying for you, catchlightning!
You're gonna have fun today! Here is some old school Public Enemy.
To add to that soundtrack. Have fun, fren
What you're doing is fixing bayonets and assaulting the fortified position.
Keep Fighting!
Prayers Up!
I have not completed danced for joy with the SC decision. They upheld the mandate with healthcare workers, did not address small businesses nor the requirements oh having the vax to enter a business, nor the mandate towards the military. Considering the efficacy of the vax is down to 0-30% by 3-6 months post shot, and the vaxed rate for illness is higher than the unvaxed, that there are plenty of deaths and adverse reactions it seems to me to be a no brained that they wouldn’t let the mandate hold for healthcare workers. It is discriminatory, non-scientific, and makes the health care worse due to shortages. It also makes no sense when vaxed workers are allowed/required to return to work 24 hours post fever and that travel nurses and physical therapists can work without a vax. I am not sure about the a National Guard, all of them may not be vaxed. I hope hospitals and administrators are prepared to pay millions for the adverse effects and deaths from the mandated shots.
Praying for you my friend.
I hope it works out for you. Do you guys think this would work when I'm applying for jobs, or would I have to have a job first to have any leverage doing this?
Let us know how it goes. good for you
Prayers on the way fren.
🙏
My work said if your vaxxed you can take the mask off. The next day no more masks anywhere and they just announced the week before vax status was only 20%.
Was like that for a few weeks where I work, last year. My boss specifically told me there weren't any "mask police". Then due to the Delta variant everyone has to wear them again. (Mine is below my nose most of the day...)
My work is pretty cool. they basically say, wear one if you want, you don't have to. But be respectful of others, if you are speaking with them and they ask you to put a mask on while speaking with them, just do it, but you are under no obligation to wear one otherwise. It's basically a policy of respect and courtesy.
Wow, what a faggot tough guy. Do you refuse to wear a seat belt as well, pussy? Strike a blow for freedumb.