Well according to my "conservative" family I have gone off the deep end and am now a full-blown pro Putin nAzI loving warmonger.......o the irony.....
This biolab, neo-nazi, corruption evidence coming out of Ukraine CANNOT come fast enough...
Anyone else in this same boat?
EXACTLY
The DS has carefully/intentionally distorted the term nazi over the last 30 years or so as to confuse or gas light the sheep
It's not over the last 30 years. That term was used as a propaganda tool as far back as WWII. In the countries that were invaded by Germany during WWII, those troops were known as German troops. Most of them weren't even Nazi party members. They were all labeled as Nazis in American porpedagna because America wanted to keep their sizeable German population on their side so an alternate label made sense. No special term was used for the Italians or Japanese, they were just called what they were, even though there were also very specific regimes running those factions at the time.
Since then, the Nazi term has taken up a meaning of its own to the point that is basically a generic insult you might throw at some one, devoid of any meaning.
I saw a story about "so and so fought Stalin and now his nephew is fighting Putin"
Like.... Uhhhhh do you dimbshits know who Stalin was fighting? 😂
Stalin brutalized Ukraine long before the Nazi party even existed. At the height of the repression, he starved 3-5 million Ukrainians. Just because some one doesn't like Stalin doesn't mean they are pro-Nazi. In fact, Stalin was so anti-Nazi, he signed the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact with them (a non aggression pact) and was happy to split the spoils of war with them until they finally attacked the Soviet Union.
Don't make the mistake of elevating 1 murderous tyrant to try to make a point. Stalin and Hitler are in the same league when it comes to being horrible murderous people. However, Stalin's body count is way higher and most of it is not made up by Nazis but civilians.
Also keep in mind, Rockefellers funded the Soviet revolution and Stalin because they wanted to get rid of the Tsar:
https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/erased-history-how-rockefeller-bankrolled-soviet-russia/
The Soviets were as bad as Nazis if not at times worse. And Putin is no more a Soviet (right now) than the ruling party of Germany are Nazis. Doesn't mean either are good, but that is not the correct label to use on either.
The only reason we don't demonize the Soviets and use that term as a derogatory one (although in my circles, both would be equally insulting) is:
Universities, the Legacy Media, and most government institutions are full of communists. As a result, they will not criticize the Soviets. Antifa are just communists using a double-speak name. If you ever watch their "peaceful protests", they use Soviet symbols. Because they are protected by the media and given a free pass.
The West temporarily allied with the Soviets to defeat the Germans so their propaganda gave them a free pass. In order not to make themselves look bad, they wouldn't promote the truth about them as not to make themselves look bad allying with someone as bad as their enemy.
At the start of the WWII, the Soviets and Germany had a peace treaty because it was convenient for both sides at the time. The Soviets only ended up fighting the Germans out of necessity. Some historians do speculate that the Soviets were planning to attack the Germans at some point, but the Germans were aware of that and attacked them as a first strike. Regardless, the Soviets cannot be defined as anti-Nazi because for a time, they were perfectly happy to ally themselves with them.
While the term Nazi does have a real meaning, in the west and even in the current war in Ukraine, it's being used as a propaganda term devoid of any real meaning. Anyone who is bad is a Nazi. This is the exact same tactic that Antifa uses. To them, anyone who is bad is a Nazi or Fascist, regardless of the fact that it is Antifa that employs all the Fascist tactics to gets its point across. In the countries that were actually in the thick of WWII fighting, no one referred to the German army or troops as Nazis. They were German troops regardless of what political party was running them. In fact, most of the German army were not Nazi party members, even if they took orders from that party.
Bonus facts: The first official fascist was Mussolini. He started out as a communist union leader. He even congratulated Vladimir Lenin on his successful revolution in Russia. Fascism is a modification of socialism/communism to involve patriotism as Mussolini noticed that while people are willing to fight and die for their country, they are not willing to die for "communism". When antifa says they are anti-fascist, they are not doing so because they fascism is so different from what they are, it's because it's actually very similar and they consider it competition. This dates back to the Weimar German Republic where there were 2 main factions fighting for power, the communists (where antifa comes from) and Nazis (national socialist). They only hated each other because they both wanted the same thing, control of Germany. Politically, the were quiet similar.
Fascism also puts big business in bed with the government, tag-teaming to control the individual. Communism controls the individual "in the name of the people."
What we have here in the US at this time is pretty close to fascism. Big businesses in bed with the government have done the government's bidding, mandating masks and vaccines, while the government gets to say, "We didn't do any of that. We respected your liberty and the liberty of companies to operate as they chose."
These guys above have been studying their history and they get it. Pretty much everything stated is accurate in summary. Ultimately, its always the same goal, control. Control the minds, resources and potential of every man woman and child. It's always about control. Religion, government, ideology, Nationalism, etc. All have been used wrongfully to accumulate power.
Love it :)
I agree but my parents are staunch republicans....not that it really means much anymore just 2 sides of the same coin....
It took me a long time to realize I was a conservative, in part because I find republicans despicable. They're some of the worst hypocrites imaginable.
It all spirals back to the tel a vision. Or tech in general - has so many in an enslaved trance
Yep 100%. Save your energy speaking to libtards and do something more productive with your life.
Same lmao. “You really believe that?” And don’t elaborate further, cause anything else will stick them into “repeating MSM headlines” mode 😂😂
I was a Nazi since I said "Trump isn't that bad." But in reality, I could never be a Nazi, since I'm not in favor of the socialist agenda. It's just a name they use because of ignorance.
We are simply freedomists.
You guys are practically all libertarians. That's the only political philosophy that lines up with the original intent of the Constitution. The problem is the libertarian party was taken over by woketards. But that's changing. Maybe you guys can get the GOP in line, but if not, we've always got a chair waiting for you at the table.
I sort of agree. The largest thing I disagree with the Libertarians about is open borders; a country without borders is not a country. That's pretty cornerstone to at least the official party platform.
More patriots seem to be classical liberals than libertarians.
They were just fiscally socialist. Socially, they were very conservative.
People never grasp the difference between the two. They just lump the socialist thing together because "MUH Nazis bad".
Hitler and the Germans would have HATED the liberals we have today.
I'm not fiscally socialist and I don't really care what they would have thought of current "socialists."
That's fine. I just think that the blanket statement of "they're socialist" is pretty ignorant.
It's in their name. Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei. National Socialist German Workers' Party. You're trying to split hairs for some reason, I don't know why. They were socialist, regardless of your definition of "socialist."
Apparently you didn't read a word I said about the difference between being something fiscally vs socially. Between your two comments, you've really shown your ignorance.
Socially socialist = socialist. Fiscally socialist = socialist. Socially and fiscally socialist = socialist. End.
LOL!
Just have them watch the 5 min video from the Russian general talking about the biolabs and then ask the question again. Then print out a few pages, pre-2022 about the Nazi problem in Ukraine. Plenty of documentation.
trust me i have tried and tried....
it is like they are regressing back to pre-covid MSM (we all know it's been BS for a lot longer) but they did pride themselves in figuring out all of the fake news lies and fear porn but all of the sudden they snap back to putin is bad bc muh faeux news says so....
My parents are hopeless party elite. I only send them pics of my dog and talk about stupid shit via email. Just the slightest whiff of anything remotely political, even the price of gas, will send them into sub-orbital launch. I gave up that fight years ago. I'm only in it for the inheritance at this point.
Almost spit my ☕️ on that last sentence kek
Same here, I dont bother anymore which saves me the aggravation of thinking why they dont get it.
Lmao👌
"I know he beat me and I had to run to a Women's Shelter but he said he's sorry and he'll change! I love him soooo much so I'm moving back in with him!!"
It's the Cycle of Abuse. Sure the media lied to them for two years but this time TV is being honest so you have to believe what they say.
Great meme idea
Truth will come out to play soon enough, just sit back and keep quiet and watch their world get rocked when the veil truly gets lifted.
u have a link to that video w/ subtitles or transcript by any chance?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSXRYl9LNPA
Thanks
If it were that simple, we wouldn’t be in this mess. Their minds are sealed shut.
I get it. Even conservatives don't like to change their minds once programmed to think a certain way.
Conservative, libertarian… various levels of closed minded ideology. Only the ‘free thinker’ or ‘objectivist’ types have open & active minds that can let go of knowledge the moment the evidence or logic counters their positions.
I'm so sick of how "they" use nazi and hitler the same way they use conspiracy theorist - to shut down anyone who speaks truth. It's like people's eyes just glaze over once these terms are thrown out there and that is most definitely part of the "their" plan.
Pavlov + Language = Programmable Monkeys
is that the dinner bell i hear...ding ding ding FUCKING ding
This is just like March 2020 all over again Lolol. Only instead of liberals being retarded it’s “conservatives” now
You need to slowly red pill them on this one. Hard and fast won't open their eyes, their brains will shut immediately. I have laid off the social posts on Russia hoping the tide turns and it's easy for them to understand the direction
My father is a know all and very worldly man. He spent 3 years in the Ukraine back in the 90s and refuses to accept that Ukraine is 💯 different now.
Even after saucing him on azov and the kyiv chief of police he refuses to accept that nazis have infiltrated Ukraine, much less all of the DS governments in play right now
Remember, some people are more interested in "what does the tribe think" than "what is true", and for good reason: being outcast from their tribe is equivalent to death. The more you can take care of yourself, the less susceptible you are to this type of self deception.
At this point I trust Putin more than our govt by far
Try asking one to source 1 thing that makes putin an enemy to US and the steam starts pouring out of their ears and eventually explodes from REEEEEEEEEEEE
It's bizarre. Even conservative talk radio is pro-nato, pro-eu, and pro-ukraine. I wonder how much they're getting paid for this massive propaganda campaign.
This is getting way too confusing. I'm sorry but the real Nazi's ended with WWII Germany. They were Nationalist Socialists. The people loved Adolph Hitler and he loved them. Most of us love President Trump as he is a Nationalist as we are because he loves America and so do we. We're just not socialists.
These so called Nazi's in Ukraine are killing their own people to frame Putin. Big difference compared to Hitler and German citizens. We are dealing with Judeo Communist Satanists.
Also regarding the state of confusion in this place regarding Jews and Khzarians. I think people are using the word Khzarian to avoid being called anti-semite. No worries as there is no such word as Jew in biblical times.
That's right all your bibles are compromised by Satan if you see the word Jew in them. Abraham was Hebrew not a Jew. The same with his son Isaac, Jacob, Esau on down the line no one was a Jew. Jesus was not a Jew! He was God in the flesh! Jew is not a blood line. Back then there were Judeans. Residents of Judea and the Pharisees practiced essentially modern day Judaism and their Satanic doctrine comes right out of the Talmud from Babylon. In John 8 Jesus called them children of Satan.
But but in John 4:22 Jesus said salvation is of Jews??! Wrong!
Correct translation is "Salvation is out of Judah". See Hebrews 7:14, Micah 5:2, Matthew 2:6
Now CirstenW said to me if Jews aren't a race why can you spot them a mile away? They have that look.
I never said that these Satanists did not have an underlying blood line.
In 1Thessalonians 2:14-15 NKJV Paul said the Judeans killed the Lord and are contrary to all men.
Who were the Judeans? There were a mix of races in that region but a lot of Edomites descendants of Esau. Now go read Obadiah and Malachi. God clearly hated Esau and Edom. I personally believe the Satanists we're up against are comprised of many Edomites and a mix of races that are outright Satanists/demons that go back to Babylon. Judaism is their capsule.
I just don’t talk to people about it. It’s like Yuri said, there’s no amount of evidence or reason that can sway them. That, and I really don’t know what’s going on.
Yes. Everyone supporting Ukraine is an actual, literal nazi.
mass psychosis
The ones we didn't loose to covid mass psychosis, we're losing to ukraine mass psychosis
Sickening
Lot's of folks never actually broke their dependence on the MSM... They've very rapidly fallen straight back into the trap, their time is coming to awaken & it won't be without pain. This world is more fucked up that most are willing to accept. It takes a strong person to question everything you've ever been taught.. Shadilay Patriot, yeah I'm in the same boat.
12+ years of government private schooling, and chicom infiltration can do that... Then the push for everyone to pay big bucks for an additional 4 years of more chicom programming
Here is a post on GAW about the Chinese pointing out info about the bio labs in Ukraine. https://greatawakening.win/p/142B0wDSBW/wow--china-is-ringing-the-bell-a/c/
You’re not the crazy one.
badge of honor. They don't know wtf they're talking about.
bad motherfu$$er
say what one more fuckin time
Not yet, I do the Columbo, "Oh that's interesting", "One thing, that I was wondering about though was <insert small red pill, in question form>" & change the subject. The size of the pill depends on whom you are talking to.
This is a good idea!
My family thinks I am nuts. I cut them off as soon as they try to bring up ukraine. say what about our border, what about our people, what about the drugs pouring in? I could give a shit about what is happening in Europe.
I was in that boat for a while until the things I was saying started coming true and my family had the guts to admit it. There are still some who think I am crazy but the truth is they are blind and lacking the IQ necessary to discern reality from their illusion.
Stay strong.
something's rotten in kiev
amen
Its like election and covid all over again.
My mom and wife, both full blown Trump supporters, argued with me about it the Saturday after the initial strikes. My only argument was that we don’t know what is going on yet and that the news are the same people who spread all of the COVID bullshit (which they know was bullshit). Despite being right about pretty much everything for the last 4 years, they still argued me that Putin was an evil warmonger picking on Ukraine. Fast forward a week an a half, I’m right again, they both fully understand Putin is attacking the worldwide swamp.
how did you get them to finally understand bc i still haven't figured that out
i told my dad let's wait and see how this progresses and here we are what 14 days into this and everything i said is coming to light...biolabs, putin not trying to occupy, putin not expanding to other countries ....on and on
these are things my dad said i just didn't understand Russian history...yada yada yada
edit: the obvious and proven neo-nazi infiltration, etc.............
Don’t know. Wife has some red pilled people she follows on insta, mom lurks around here.
The bridge too far. I and others close to me have figured this is not the hill to die on. La Resistance is digging down until truth comes out. A few people we are are giving our opinions to but being very careful. Most people are too ignorant to get it yet.
we were in NOLA for mardi gras last week and had to peel my dad from the couch away from his precious so we could go enjoy some libations and debauchery......
Same guy will also tell you faux news is full of shit.....🤷♂️
Hubby's mom (long gone) was Ukrainian. We have not been speaking for several days already...
If they are Catholic maybe this will wake them up:
https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/abp-vigano-globalists-have-fomented-war-in-ukraine-to-establish-the-tyranny-of-the-new-world-order/
This is the best and most complete summary of what the majority of us here understand as the truth. I urge you all to read this but you will need to set aside a good half hour. It is very thorough and contains dozens of links to source material.
When Putin sent troops into Ukraine my Dad was sure this was the first step to invading all of eastern Europe. He was full in on the MSM narrative even though he is a 2XTrump voter and well aware of the lies behind FISAgate and Covid/death serum.
I argued with him for a week showing him evidence of the swastikas on the Azov Battalions helmets, the black sun on Ukraine unis, the biolabs and the faked pics and videos of Russian atrocities. Nothing moved him one inch. He had Fox and Newsmax on 24/7. He even said I was falling for propaganda.
I showed him this article by Archbishop Vigano this morning and he read the entire thing where he usually dismisses my evidence. Mom called me at work and said Dad told her that I was right all along.
I semi gloated a little when I talked to him this evening. I told him that Ive been right for the last 7 years on whats happening and reiterated the massive amounts of research I do on my own and that is compounded by the research of the thousands of you very worthy pedes.
I think he will be more open to what Im telling him now.
but the ruling ukrainian political party are actual nazis though..
Yeah my husband now thinks I’m nuts
I was a huge critic of Q until I saw that the Republican party was complicit in the election theft. Then 25k troops occupied DC, so I read Q posts and my jaw dropped.
My parents joined my point of view I showed them Q proofs. For friends and family, I have to slowly drip things out.
But just like when I was a critic, normies have to be ready. A news event has to seem off. They have to be really disturbed by an obvious lie, and they must investigate. That's when the spell is broken.
I am, or I should say I would be in the same boat if the fam still talked to me.
Last words my sister said to me was "you're on the wackyweed again"! (that was 60 some years ago I smoked dope at a party, I was in junior high for cryin out loud and she still brings it up when she gets pissed off at me, LoL)
wackyweed is a beautiful thing man