Epoch Times “Teacher Propped Open Door to Texas School Before Shooter Entered - At around 11:27 a.m. Tuesday, the teacher propped open the door at Robb Elementary, coming about 1 minute before Ramos crashed his vehicle nearby, McCraw said. The same teacher about two minutes later at 11:30 a.m. reported the crash and a male with a gun.
It’s not clear why the teacher propped open the door or didn’t close it after they saw the suspect crash.”
Shooter let in but cops locked out? Fishier by the minute.
Everything about this shit glows. I wholeheartedly believe that this fucked up kid was groomed by a glowie agent, and for a long time. No fucking way an 18 year old kid goes and buys 2 1800$ rifles/ 1200$ worth of optics/ 60 magazines and over 1500 rds of ammo, sights said optics in on the rifles, And gets practice enough to shoot it out with a tactical team in 3 days. Then the door just happened to be open and the cops who were trained on active shooter the month before forget all training and shit the bed?? Yeah, I’m calling bullshit on all of it… Buffalo shooter was trained too, and you don’t get that kind of training from COD
Agreed. And while the OP link is agreeable on the surface, I can’t get behind anything that cites the nytimes, about anything. They are stirring the pot here.
Is the teacher identified? Is this action legally considered aiding and abetting a mass murder? The school was on lockdown but the teacher opened the door. Is this a criminal offense? Has the teacher been interrogated? I would love more info. This whole thing leading up to the mass murder of children stinks to high Heaven.
There is no chance in hell that kid announces he shot his grandma and then says I'm going to shoot school and the school does not go on full lockdown.
Then he crashes outside school and still no lockdown. Then he happens to walk up to school and just happens that a teacher opened the door he chooses to go in.
Then is able to get inside a classroom that should be locked when class is in session, the same door that was locked when cops needed to go in.
All the while the school officer just happened to be driving by the school instead of at his job. I mean cmon, no one would believe this story if the news reported it this way .
You can't make this shit up
More reason to arm citizens/teachers than to ban guns. People have to learn that only you can prevent forest fires....
I mean your own sheep death. Waiting for help ain’t gonna happen when they don’t have what it takes to do their job. They are there for the perks and paycheck, not to get shot at for you. Banning guns will only make it harder for the good citizens to acquire them. More guns equal less crime. It’s been proven time and time again. Literally every Democrat city, bans in firearms, worst crime and death stats. It’s elementary my dear.
I visited the Philippines in 2004 and remember being concerned that they had armed guards at every large public gathering place like the mall, with shotguns or rifles. The schools also all had 10 foot masonry walls with metal gates and armed guards. I thought these things were a sign that their country was dangerous, which of course it is, and so is America. They are all dangerous because they all have people in them and people have unlimited potential for evil.
We need to get over the stigma that America isn't a dangerous place and forget the fantasy that there wasn't evil in the "good old days", and we want it like that again. I'm unsure if arming teachers is the right thing, but I'm positive that trained armed guards with long rifles should be at our schools. We need to become comfortable seeing men with guns at the doors of every establishment ready to protect us.
armed guards who are paid/licensed etc is stepping more towards increased federal authority, that's the wrong direction IMO. We the people need to take responsibility for our safety and that of those around us. just end the unarmed sheep zones and get rid of the antigunners in the blue areas. good guys with guns everywhere, carrying because it's the right thing to do.
One of my favorite scenes from a movie was about Bonnie and Clyde. It’s in the end when they come rolling into a small town. Once gun fire is heard all the citizens come out of their stores armed and see what’s going on and begin to gun those degenerates down. I said to myself wen I was younger that’s where I want to live.
I've been in both Mexico and Dominican Republic, where guards with long guns are seen.
That is NOT a good look. It does NOT make for a comfortable environment. We should NOT "become more comfortable" with that look.
Concealed weapons should be fine. Many states now have constitutional carry and you would never know who does or does not have a concealed gun -- and that is the point.
I understand what you are saying, but it very much confirms the point I'm making. Optics can not supersede the safety of our children. If your primary argument against visibly armed guards is it looks bad... I'm inclined to say, "get over it" as a counter argument.
You've been to places with armed guards, but have you lived there? How fast do you think you get used to seeing it, and it becomes background noise?
I agree. Trained armed guards, whose only job is to kill an attacker. Let resource officers deal with the fights and bullying and bullshit. One man, one rifle, level 4 armor, and training. We can get this security in our schools for cheap money, most of them less than 100k a year. But hell no, we just keep sending 50 billion at a time to Ukraine… 🤦♂️
You don't prevent forest fires by giving people more matches. Meanwhile, there are countries with less matches than us and less proverbial forest fires. I wonder why that is
Cuz their socialist governments took their weapons long ago, and they’re watched 24/7. Since the government already owns them there’s no need for government created shootings to take their pesky weapons away for good, cuz that already happened.
And countries with more...and less. Switzerland has a culture were every able-bodied man has obligatory military service and retires from service with his longarm and ammo. He is obliged to keep it in good order. Whole families participate in local schutzenfests, where the father tries out his service arm and the wife her target rifle and the kinder their .22 pistols. Very low crime rate.
Because they have Serbian culture instead of American culture. They have a real culture that can be traced back millennia, instead of a cargo cult made of the people too British for the British floating on a land once rich in tradition that was genocided away. Australia would be just like America if they didn't ban everything to keep the culture from becoming like ours. Stronger cultures with real roots in their land can do things we can't.
I don’t believe they do. SWAT, sheriff and police, as well as border patrol called for back up. I read Uvalde has 6 officers. The head of the school district’s police is supposedly who called for the stand down rather than allowing officers to enter. That info is from a couple of articles I read last night and this am. I cannot fathom a stand down order in this situation. Something isn’t right here!
I watched a video this AM posted on telegram. Anderson Creeper was interviewing Amerie Jo Garza’s “father” (Angel Garza) about her death. Photo of her is super sketch. How did he show up with a beautifully framed & matted pic of her taken a few days ago? I’m talking a BIG pic. Then the other video is Savannah Guthrie interviewing another father for….wait for it…..Amerie Jo Garza! I thought well okay, one of them is stepdad. Well his name was Alfredo Garza! What would be the chances her father and stepfather have the same last names? It could happen. Although nothing was noted about their titles. I’m trying to give the benefit of the doubt. Is this coincidence or just more mind Fuckery by the media and Others….? This whole thing just stinks. Uvalde is a small town. Why there?
There were 3 or 4 more threats in the San Antonio are this week after Uvalde and some near Dallas. Interesting in light of Congress wanting to pass gun legislation and Trump’s appearance in Houston at the NRA convention.
No they do. Everything they say is a bullshit excuse. This was a bigger operation than just a lone gunmen, the town officials are complicit in this whole situation.
Apparently no one was waiting on the border patrol they seemed to have acted on their own volition. It would seem that the entire Uvalde local government at this point and its agencies connected to this situation are in question and it is a matter of exposing the ones responsible.
Why is it that almost every mass shooter
event has the same situation with police and agencies directly defying protocol and waiting around for the shooter to inflict as much damage as possible before confronting him? Time is of the essence and confronting the shooter immediately is number one priority.
There is a template for these false flag operations and so far we’ve checked off so many boxes at this point there is no doubt that it is a false flag.
It is either the top officials issuing commands and the lower levels being cowards and not intelligent enough to realize the situation or they are all compromised. A good place to start would be identifying the local Masonic chapter and it’s ties within the police force and government there. Next would be political ties and third would be financial ties.
Did swat get a bunch of shiny new equipment lately?
I agree it was a false flag. I think the action was going on in the warehouse across the field from the school. The company in that warehouse had Rothschild ties. There was also an ms13 escapee in the general area. So many things could have been going on, but imho, it was not a school shooting.
So basically more intel that this city has more going on than meets the eye and would just further confirm that the entire local government is possibly in on it just like the town of sandy hook.
I think the school shooting was a ff distraction and the action was happening at the warehouse across the field from the school. I think Uvalde is a major smuggling hub. I'm guessing some ms13 stuff went down, since about ten days earlier an ms13 gang member escaped from a jail bus in Leon County. I think the reason all of this makes no sense is that it isn't sensible bc the shooting isn't what happened.
On the eve of a nra conference that trump was speaking at and multiple states pushing gun control legislation at the same time. That’s a lot of coincidence, but you could be right it could be a two for one deal, I don’t doubt that.
Former 5-0 here... Being a town of 16,000 I can guarantee that they had a part time swat team. That means it consists of officers who work throughout the department, on different shifts even, doing their assigned jobs. When swat is needed they are basically called up and have to report to a certain place at the pd, gear up and most likely travel to the location in a common vehicle.
This is how my much larger employer worked and we knew it would take approximately 45-60 min for them to show up.
My opinion, having taken active shooter training many times, responding officers should've stormed in. Even if they were by themselves. Even if I received an order to stand down I'd risk my job (and life) to go in there to stop the threat. How can these guys and gals live with themselves now, much like the Florida resource officer who ran away. Ugh.
Not sure why someone would downvote my comment on my real world experience, but whatever. Life goes on...
Being a tiny town like that I'd imagine 2 or more of the 6 officer (I saw a picture w 6 of them) we're unavailable. Sick? Vacation? Who knows... Just spitballin... So they had to call in BORTAC.
My city had two swat units to pull from despite being "part-time."
Its only a down vote, don't let it get your feelings hurt. Probably over your 5-0 days. This site went from back the blue to F$#@ Da Police in a heartbeat
Having travelled to Uvalde before for work, BP is all over the place as there is a checkpoint nearby and the border is not that far away. It's normal for LE to assist LE.
Why are you pushing this so hard, handshake? I live in SA; we were stationed at Laughlin. I'm familiar with the area. You're trying to tell me that it's normal for a SWAT team to wait an hour for another SWAT team to show up? Move along please.
They have a Facebook page as well with pictures of them visiting and interacting with the community. They sure did put in a lot of effort to try to persuade everybody that they did have one.
Literally ever school shooting this happens. I have a hard time believing that in every instance, the entire police force were cowards. A portion of any police force was in one of the middle eastern wars.
I strongly believe they got stand down orders.
My daughter is a teacher and is terrified. We were talking about shelter in place. She said if there is word of a shooter in her school she is telling the students to bust out the windows and run. Keep running till you reach safety. I agree.
Why shoot kids? This has to be the brightest glowing fact there is. Why always kids? They never seem to go after shitty politicians or the school officials.
I find it miraculous how he didn't have a Driver's License (as per grandad) and didn't know how to drive. And yet supposedly drove to the school and managed to get guns (not sure if you need a drivers license to get them in the US?)
"Despite this, Ramos shot his grandmother in the forehead before stealing her car and taking off toward the elementary school. Reyes said his grandson did not have a driver’s license and did not know how to drive."
"The grandfather also wondered how Ramos would have gone to purchase the weapons or if he trained on the weapons, noting that someone must have driven him to get them."
Epoch Times “Teacher Propped Open Door to Texas School Before Shooter Entered - At around 11:27 a.m. Tuesday, the teacher propped open the door at Robb Elementary, coming about 1 minute before Ramos crashed his vehicle nearby, McCraw said. The same teacher about two minutes later at 11:30 a.m. reported the crash and a male with a gun.
It’s not clear why the teacher propped open the door or didn’t close it after they saw the suspect crash.”
Shooter let in but cops locked out? Fishier by the minute.
Everything about this shit glows. I wholeheartedly believe that this fucked up kid was groomed by a glowie agent, and for a long time. No fucking way an 18 year old kid goes and buys 2 1800$ rifles/ 1200$ worth of optics/ 60 magazines and over 1500 rds of ammo, sights said optics in on the rifles, And gets practice enough to shoot it out with a tactical team in 3 days. Then the door just happened to be open and the cops who were trained on active shooter the month before forget all training and shit the bed?? Yeah, I’m calling bullshit on all of it… Buffalo shooter was trained too, and you don’t get that kind of training from COD
Without the Feds we’d have none of this sh1t. imo
Exactly
Like lee Harvey Oswald
Yep, like Vegas too
Agreed. And while the OP link is agreeable on the surface, I can’t get behind anything that cites the nytimes, about anything. They are stirring the pot here.
https://archive.ph/9s2pz
I don’t know where this guy got his information, but this is the timeline he published. A lot of the points do match up with what’s known
TY 👍🏼
Is the teacher identified? Is this action legally considered aiding and abetting a mass murder? The school was on lockdown but the teacher opened the door. Is this a criminal offense? Has the teacher been interrogated? I would love more info. This whole thing leading up to the mass murder of children stinks to high Heaven.
There is no chance in hell that kid announces he shot his grandma and then says I'm going to shoot school and the school does not go on full lockdown. Then he crashes outside school and still no lockdown. Then he happens to walk up to school and just happens that a teacher opened the door he chooses to go in. Then is able to get inside a classroom that should be locked when class is in session, the same door that was locked when cops needed to go in. All the while the school officer just happened to be driving by the school instead of at his job. I mean cmon, no one would believe this story if the news reported it this way . You can't make this shit up
More reason to arm citizens/teachers than to ban guns. People have to learn that only you can prevent forest fires....
I mean your own sheep death. Waiting for help ain’t gonna happen when they don’t have what it takes to do their job. They are there for the perks and paycheck, not to get shot at for you. Banning guns will only make it harder for the good citizens to acquire them. More guns equal less crime. It’s been proven time and time again. Literally every Democrat city, bans in firearms, worst crime and death stats. It’s elementary my dear.
I visited the Philippines in 2004 and remember being concerned that they had armed guards at every large public gathering place like the mall, with shotguns or rifles. The schools also all had 10 foot masonry walls with metal gates and armed guards. I thought these things were a sign that their country was dangerous, which of course it is, and so is America. They are all dangerous because they all have people in them and people have unlimited potential for evil.
We need to get over the stigma that America isn't a dangerous place and forget the fantasy that there wasn't evil in the "good old days", and we want it like that again. I'm unsure if arming teachers is the right thing, but I'm positive that trained armed guards with long rifles should be at our schools. We need to become comfortable seeing men with guns at the doors of every establishment ready to protect us.
armed guards who are paid/licensed etc is stepping more towards increased federal authority, that's the wrong direction IMO. We the people need to take responsibility for our safety and that of those around us. just end the unarmed sheep zones and get rid of the antigunners in the blue areas. good guys with guns everywhere, carrying because it's the right thing to do.
Agreed.
One of my favorite scenes from a movie was about Bonnie and Clyde. It’s in the end when they come rolling into a small town. Once gun fire is heard all the citizens come out of their stores armed and see what’s going on and begin to gun those degenerates down. I said to myself wen I was younger that’s where I want to live.
Thank you. Hannity was literally calling for armed police at every floor of every building, mall and school in America, and that terrifies me
oh man hannity, fuck that controlled opposition faggot. I used to listen to him too. and don't be scared anon, just build an ammo fort.
I didn't say Federally paid for or mandated guards. These should be local school boards hiring private security.
I've been in both Mexico and Dominican Republic, where guards with long guns are seen.
That is NOT a good look. It does NOT make for a comfortable environment. We should NOT "become more comfortable" with that look.
Concealed weapons should be fine. Many states now have constitutional carry and you would never know who does or does not have a concealed gun -- and that is the point.
I understand what you are saying, but it very much confirms the point I'm making. Optics can not supersede the safety of our children. If your primary argument against visibly armed guards is it looks bad... I'm inclined to say, "get over it" as a counter argument.
You've been to places with armed guards, but have you lived there? How fast do you think you get used to seeing it, and it becomes background noise?
I agree. Trained armed guards, whose only job is to kill an attacker. Let resource officers deal with the fights and bullying and bullshit. One man, one rifle, level 4 armor, and training. We can get this security in our schools for cheap money, most of them less than 100k a year. But hell no, we just keep sending 50 billion at a time to Ukraine… 🤦♂️
You don't prevent forest fires by giving people more matches. Meanwhile, there are countries with less matches than us and less proverbial forest fires. I wonder why that is
Cuz their socialist governments took their weapons long ago, and they’re watched 24/7. Since the government already owns them there’s no need for government created shootings to take their pesky weapons away for good, cuz that already happened.
Exactly. They create conflict here in the states because USA (and Russia) is last stronghold standing in the way of total global tyranny.
And countries with more...and less. Switzerland has a culture were every able-bodied man has obligatory military service and retires from service with his longarm and ammo. He is obliged to keep it in good order. Whole families participate in local schutzenfests, where the father tries out his service arm and the wife her target rifle and the kinder their .22 pistols. Very low crime rate.
Learn to make valid analogies.
How come Serbia has 2nd most armed population in the world and also the lowest gun crime? You Euro cuck.
Because they have Serbian culture instead of American culture. They have a real culture that can be traced back millennia, instead of a cargo cult made of the people too British for the British floating on a land once rich in tradition that was genocided away. Australia would be just like America if they didn't ban everything to keep the culture from becoming like ours. Stronger cultures with real roots in their land can do things we can't.
So why did they stand down? Was an order given to stand down?
If Uvalde has a swat team, why did they wait for the border patrol swat team?
I don’t believe they do. SWAT, sheriff and police, as well as border patrol called for back up. I read Uvalde has 6 officers. The head of the school district’s police is supposedly who called for the stand down rather than allowing officers to enter. That info is from a couple of articles I read last night and this am. I cannot fathom a stand down order in this situation. Something isn’t right here! I watched a video this AM posted on telegram. Anderson Creeper was interviewing Amerie Jo Garza’s “father” (Angel Garza) about her death. Photo of her is super sketch. How did he show up with a beautifully framed & matted pic of her taken a few days ago? I’m talking a BIG pic. Then the other video is Savannah Guthrie interviewing another father for….wait for it…..Amerie Jo Garza! I thought well okay, one of them is stepdad. Well his name was Alfredo Garza! What would be the chances her father and stepfather have the same last names? It could happen. Although nothing was noted about their titles. I’m trying to give the benefit of the doubt. Is this coincidence or just more mind Fuckery by the media and Others….? This whole thing just stinks. Uvalde is a small town. Why there? There were 3 or 4 more threats in the San Antonio are this week after Uvalde and some near Dallas. Interesting in light of Congress wanting to pass gun legislation and Trump’s appearance in Houston at the NRA convention.
https://m.facebook.com/uvaldepd/videos/uvalde-police-swat-division-enjoyed-touring-school-campuses-and-interacting-with/633078883916406/
No they do. Everything they say is a bullshit excuse. This was a bigger operation than just a lone gunmen, the town officials are complicit in this whole situation.
so why did the Uvalde swat team wait for border patrol swat team?
Apparently no one was waiting on the border patrol they seemed to have acted on their own volition. It would seem that the entire Uvalde local government at this point and its agencies connected to this situation are in question and it is a matter of exposing the ones responsible.
Why is it that almost every mass shooter event has the same situation with police and agencies directly defying protocol and waiting around for the shooter to inflict as much damage as possible before confronting him? Time is of the essence and confronting the shooter immediately is number one priority.
This thread does a good job exposing that.
https://nitter.net/ByMikeBaker/status/1530357140191186944#m
There is a template for these false flag operations and so far we’ve checked off so many boxes at this point there is no doubt that it is a false flag.
It is either the top officials issuing commands and the lower levels being cowards and not intelligent enough to realize the situation or they are all compromised. A good place to start would be identifying the local Masonic chapter and it’s ties within the police force and government there. Next would be political ties and third would be financial ties.
Did swat get a bunch of shiny new equipment lately?
I agree it was a false flag. I think the action was going on in the warehouse across the field from the school. The company in that warehouse had Rothschild ties. There was also an ms13 escapee in the general area. So many things could have been going on, but imho, it was not a school shooting.
So basically more intel that this city has more going on than meets the eye and would just further confirm that the entire local government is possibly in on it just like the town of sandy hook.
Elaborate on not a school shooting
As in faked like sandy hook?
this is an article an anon presented to me as proof Uvalde has swat (yawn)
https://www.vice.com/en/article/wxdwgn/uvalde-swat-team-bragged-about-training-at-schools-on-facebook
I think the school shooting was a ff distraction and the action was happening at the warehouse across the field from the school. I think Uvalde is a major smuggling hub. I'm guessing some ms13 stuff went down, since about ten days earlier an ms13 gang member escaped from a jail bus in Leon County. I think the reason all of this makes no sense is that it isn't sensible bc the shooting isn't what happened.
On the eve of a nra conference that trump was speaking at and multiple states pushing gun control legislation at the same time. That’s a lot of coincidence, but you could be right it could be a two for one deal, I don’t doubt that.
Former 5-0 here... Being a town of 16,000 I can guarantee that they had a part time swat team. That means it consists of officers who work throughout the department, on different shifts even, doing their assigned jobs. When swat is needed they are basically called up and have to report to a certain place at the pd, gear up and most likely travel to the location in a common vehicle.
This is how my much larger employer worked and we knew it would take approximately 45-60 min for them to show up.
My opinion, having taken active shooter training many times, responding officers should've stormed in. Even if they were by themselves. Even if I received an order to stand down I'd risk my job (and life) to go in there to stop the threat. How can these guys and gals live with themselves now, much like the Florida resource officer who ran away. Ugh.
okay. If Uvalde has a part time swat team, why did they wait for the border patrol swat team.
Not sure why someone would downvote my comment on my real world experience, but whatever. Life goes on...
Being a tiny town like that I'd imagine 2 or more of the 6 officer (I saw a picture w 6 of them) we're unavailable. Sick? Vacation? Who knows... Just spitballin... So they had to call in BORTAC.
My city had two swat units to pull from despite being "part-time."
Its only a down vote, don't let it get your feelings hurt. Probably over your 5-0 days. This site went from back the blue to F$#@ Da Police in a heartbeat
Border Patrol is federal. See my comment below. I don't think this had anything to do with the school.
Having travelled to Uvalde before for work, BP is all over the place as there is a checkpoint nearby and the border is not that far away. It's normal for LE to assist LE.
Why are you pushing this so hard, handshake? I live in SA; we were stationed at Laughlin. I'm familiar with the area. You're trying to tell me that it's normal for a SWAT team to wait an hour for another SWAT team to show up? Move along please.
Population is just north of 15,000…SWAT may have been from an adjacent town?
That was my thought as well but apparently there are some pictures online that show a Uvalde swat team. I've been to Uvalde; I don't believe it at all
They have a Facebook page as well with pictures of them visiting and interacting with the community. They sure did put in a lot of effort to try to persuade everybody that they did have one.
Literally ever school shooting this happens. I have a hard time believing that in every instance, the entire police force were cowards. A portion of any police force was in one of the middle eastern wars. I strongly believe they got stand down orders.
My daughter is a teacher and is terrified. We were talking about shelter in place. She said if there is word of a shooter in her school she is telling the students to bust out the windows and run. Keep running till you reach safety. I agree.
Do. Not depend on cops to save your life.
Good advice!
When seconds count police are just minutes away...
EXACTLY
I’m sure there’s some money involved, too.
Why shoot kids? This has to be the brightest glowing fact there is. Why always kids? They never seem to go after shitty politicians or the school officials.
So have we heard that “the killer was on the Fed’s “radar” but just slipped through the cracks”…YET?
Yes. They knew 3 or 4 years ago that he was going to do this when he turned 18. That’s what I read anyhow. Hopefully someone else can corroborate.
I find it miraculous how he didn't have a Driver's License (as per grandad) and didn't know how to drive. And yet supposedly drove to the school and managed to get guns (not sure if you need a drivers license to get them in the US?)
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/texas-school-gunmans-grandpa-says-he-didnt-know-hed-bought-rifles/ar-AAXIs1u
"Despite this, Ramos shot his grandmother in the forehead before stealing her car and taking off toward the elementary school. Reyes said his grandson did not have a driver’s license and did not know how to drive."
"The grandfather also wondered how Ramos would have gone to purchase the weapons or if he trained on the weapons, noting that someone must have driven him to get them."
different face
https://www.nytimes.com/by/mike-baker