While I agree that nothing should be trusted, having doubts that are unreasonable does not aid in sound decision making. You have presented "doubts" that I do not consider reasonable.
To start, if Q can be compromised in such a way as to have fake posts, without an immediate official Q statement proving such, then either:
Q never had control, which is to say, Q is not MI and/or has no real power AKA Q is a LARP
Q has been removed as a player, no longer has control, and we are rightly FUBAR.
It is ludicrous to think that a Q in control would allow for unauthorized Q posts without immediately letting the world know that the trip code was compromised.
Your "evidence" of Scavino:
I'm not 100% sure who Baby Fist is but from what I understand, it was the name of someone that was able to dupe some anons into thinking it was Q
This is a line of nothing. If you think there is something there, then you will have to provide actual evidence and not pure speculation based on literally nothing.
Your "evidence" of Watkins:
Literally nothing Watkins says or does has any relevance to anything Q. Ron Watkins is at best a random Anon, just like the rest of us, and at worst Controlled Opposition. WHATEVER he posts, anywhere, at any time, cannot be used as "proof" of anything.
Skepticism is healthy, even essential, and should never be removed from the investigative process. I suggest that nothing should ever be trusted, as it is the opposite of Critical Thinking. Having said that, doubts must be reasonable (i.e. based on reason) and not barely coherent "I think I heard a rumor once." Creating such speculative doubts only detracts from investigation.
I dont see it as unreasonable to consider that Babyfist had 2 years to sift through and find the code and for some reason whitelist it, making it less secure, then repost old Qposts to increase traffic. Ignoring everything around this is unreasonable. Ignoring the actual evidence is unreasonable. Ignoring the fact that the chans themselves called it out and posts about it are being deleted on the chans, is the equivelant to putting your head in the sand.
Visit the chans yourself and see. This is not speculation or rumor. Its esentially proven this was a larp. The BO had 2 years to figure out and use the trip. Not saying he had it the whole time, but 2 years checking logs to get the trip is not out of this world imaginable.
This dont mean Q was/is a larp. But someone else now has the ability to post as Q. At the very least it should be considered compromised at this point.
Is that what I said? I said the opposite. This is what I said:
If you think there is something there, then you will have to provide actual evidence
The OP provides zero evidence. Literally nothing. The Babyfist story is not known by many (including myself). To think that the evidence is self-evident is... not evident.
Ignoring the actual evidence is unreasonable.
As I said, no evidence was being presented.
Ignoring the fact that the chans themselves called it out and posts about it are being deleted on the chans, is the equivelant to putting your head in the sand.
This is evidence, but it was not presented. Having said that, this is not good evidence. This is still in the realm of speculation, unless "the chans themselves" are providing actual evidence and not just "consensus".
Consensus is not in any way "truth." The number of people believing a thing does not in any way suggest anything except that a bunch of people have a shared belief. That belief can come from anywhere. The creation of false consensus beliefs under the guise of "on our side" is the primary function of Controlled Opposition which is everywhere. Last year more than the majority of the people in the world believed that the vaccine was the path to saving the world. Did that make it true?
NEVER will I hide my head in the sand. I demand evidence for speculative claims, and that is all I did in my post.
Visit the chans yourself and see.
Please provide a link to actual evidence (or posts that provide it). I am not well versed in navigation of the chans. I have looked at evidence presented there many times from others links, but when trying to investigate myself there, I tend to get lost in the weeds.
That is from 8kun, just a different link. I read it on 8kun. Now they have their politics too but a hack did occur several months ago.
I dont know all the ins and outs of the board. I know a lot of anons are excited and digging again because of the posts.
I know the anons who are asking for deltas and more proof are getting hammered as shills.
I think we all have learned to question everything and search it out. So what is the harm in being cautious? It doesn't change status of past Q posts or the reasons we need to fight back or the lies we have uncovered and the truths we have found.
The good news so far is these posts really change nothing. The danger for now, I guess, is they are consuming a lot of cognitive bandwidth. Even collectively our attention is finite. Every moment spent analyzing and debating these posts diverts attention from other things.
As long as the new post don’t conflict with past posts. I’m not spending too much energy on them.
People are starving for hope. We’ve been in this nightmare since Nov 2020. I think the excitement since Friday is that “maybe” it’s something. Just something to hold on to and keep our spirits up. We’re worn out. We’re frustrated. I don’t see how this hurts us. If anything, it’ll refocus our resolve!
Trust, but verify. I think that’s what we’re all doing now since Friday’ drop.
Agreed. People need hope. The Trump rallies give me hope and I don’t even watch them. They are something no former President has done. They tell me the battles continue.
Strangely the January 6th Unselect Committee gives me hope too. If the DS was feeling safe and secure there would be no need for that committee.
Starving for hope? Yeah. Doomers are ALWAYS gonna DOOM. Meanwhile, the rest of us have been watching The Plan come together. Now you're seeing some of the biggest booms in our lifetimes coming from SCOTUS.
The whole system is being rebuilt from the ground up and people "need hope"?
People who have been in this thing for decades or even just a few years don't care about any new 'Q' because we know why we Fight. We know who the Enemy is even tho sometimes their fake Christian or republican or Patriot outfits fool us.
We know what we Hope to see unfold, we know the horrors to come if we actually get what we Hope to see...we know that not everyone makes it through this.
What can 'Q' offer now, really? It doesn't matter if 'Q' did begin posting unless it was to say, NOW, grab your rifles and meet at the state houses NOW, meet at city hall NOW!
And that ain't how it's gonna work is it, we Hope for a different sort of climax.
We don't need 'Q', any manifestation 'now' would only do what the Enemy seeks, sow confusion. Stick to your positions, stay on course, don't be distracted.
And Pray for Humanity, this is a Spiritual War remember.
Dan Scavino’s “Baby fist” could be a warning and confirmation that Jim Watkins, and/or known larper “Babyfist” (aka Laughing_MAN), plus Steinbart, and other BOs on 8kun, spoofed Q’s tripcode and started the fake Q posts.
This is exactly where i am. I'm flexable and giving it the benefit of the doubt, but before i went there, i tied a string to the doorframe and left the door open so i can get back out in case it proves to be a hack.
That's where I'm leaning until proven otherwise. Or it's possible bad actors got to Watkins and compromised him, and allowing them to post as if it was Q.
I haven't put much thought into this, as I like to wait and see, but I do have to point out that Q's last drop was the song 'we're not going to take it', and Jfk Jr's. supposed 'last' words were 'we're not going to make it'. To me, that meant December 8, 2020 was the 'last' of Q in that form.
He, working with another person made it possible. Its not 100% who was actually doing the posting. But the theory is, in all likelyhood, yes he was posting as Q.
Okay everybody, hold off on the Q missions until we know for sure. Seriously, what do you think anyone is going to do other than get all happy and excited if they think it is Q? All of us would like to know one way or the other but I don't think anyone is rushing out and doing anything.
Yeah I don't think many of us would take action if the fake Q told us to do something. But what if the fake Q said to do something, then the hired bad actors (like antifa) did something Q said to do, then media can blame us. Similar to bad actors during Jan 6th pretending to be maga.
I'm mostly concerned with misinfo being posted by the new "Q". So far, it's been pretty boring posts, but it's possible the new Q is trying to establish credibility.
Lots of posts on 8kun where they are calling out anyone saying to be cautious it's not the real Q. Shills out in full force replying to anons calling THEM the shills, when they simply waiting for a confirmation from Trump.
While I agree that nothing should be trusted, having doubts that are unreasonable does not aid in sound decision making. You have presented "doubts" that I do not consider reasonable.
To start, if Q can be compromised in such a way as to have fake posts, without an immediate official Q statement proving such, then either:
It is ludicrous to think that a Q in control would allow for unauthorized Q posts without immediately letting the world know that the trip code was compromised.
Your "evidence" of Scavino:
This is a line of nothing. If you think there is something there, then you will have to provide actual evidence and not pure speculation based on literally nothing.
Your "evidence" of Watkins:
Literally nothing Watkins says or does has any relevance to anything Q. Ron Watkins is at best a random Anon, just like the rest of us, and at worst Controlled Opposition. WHATEVER he posts, anywhere, at any time, cannot be used as "proof" of anything.
Skepticism is healthy, even essential, and should never be removed from the investigative process. I suggest that nothing should ever be trusted, as it is the opposite of Critical Thinking. Having said that, doubts must be reasonable (i.e. based on reason) and not barely coherent "I think I heard a rumor once." Creating such speculative doubts only detracts from investigation.
I dont see it as unreasonable to consider that Babyfist had 2 years to sift through and find the code and for some reason whitelist it, making it less secure, then repost old Qposts to increase traffic. Ignoring everything around this is unreasonable. Ignoring the actual evidence is unreasonable. Ignoring the fact that the chans themselves called it out and posts about it are being deleted on the chans, is the equivelant to putting your head in the sand.
Visit the chans yourself and see. This is not speculation or rumor. Its esentially proven this was a larp. The BO had 2 years to figure out and use the trip. Not saying he had it the whole time, but 2 years checking logs to get the trip is not out of this world imaginable.
This dont mean Q was/is a larp. But someone else now has the ability to post as Q. At the very least it should be considered compromised at this point.
Not considering it is a disservice.
Is that what I said? I said the opposite. This is what I said:
The OP provides zero evidence. Literally nothing. The Babyfist story is not known by many (including myself). To think that the evidence is self-evident is... not evident.
As I said, no evidence was being presented.
This is evidence, but it was not presented. Having said that, this is not good evidence. This is still in the realm of speculation, unless "the chans themselves" are providing actual evidence and not just "consensus".
Consensus is not in any way "truth." The number of people believing a thing does not in any way suggest anything except that a bunch of people have a shared belief. That belief can come from anywhere. The creation of false consensus beliefs under the guise of "on our side" is the primary function of Controlled Opposition which is everywhere. Last year more than the majority of the people in the world believed that the vaccine was the path to saving the world. Did that make it true?
NEVER will I hide my head in the sand. I demand evidence for speculative claims, and that is all I did in my post.
Please provide a link to actual evidence (or posts that provide it). I am not well versed in navigation of the chans. I have looked at evidence presented there many times from others links, but when trying to investigate myself there, I tend to get lost in the weeds.
You didn't ask me but u/ThePatriotsParty provided it.
https://imgur.io/a/J22HBR7
That is from 8kun, just a different link. I read it on 8kun. Now they have their politics too but a hack did occur several months ago.
I dont know all the ins and outs of the board. I know a lot of anons are excited and digging again because of the posts.
I know the anons who are asking for deltas and more proof are getting hammered as shills.
I think we all have learned to question everything and search it out. So what is the harm in being cautious? It doesn't change status of past Q posts or the reasons we need to fight back or the lies we have uncovered and the truths we have found.
Thank you very much.
Yw. We are all in this together
This should be its own post. Would love to see you get out in front of all the illogical thinking going on by expanding on this. Great response.
The more Scavino posts baby fists the more sceptical I become of these new Q posts.
Same here. Plus the longer the new "Q" doesn't confirm via a Trump delta the more I am as well.
He's calling out shillfags...directly
The good news so far is these posts really change nothing. The danger for now, I guess, is they are consuming a lot of cognitive bandwidth. Even collectively our attention is finite. Every moment spent analyzing and debating these posts diverts attention from other things.
As long as the new post don’t conflict with past posts. I’m not spending too much energy on them.
People are starving for hope. We’ve been in this nightmare since Nov 2020. I think the excitement since Friday is that “maybe” it’s something. Just something to hold on to and keep our spirits up. We’re worn out. We’re frustrated. I don’t see how this hurts us. If anything, it’ll refocus our resolve!
Trust, but verify. I think that’s what we’re all doing now since Friday’ drop.
Agreed. People need hope. The Trump rallies give me hope and I don’t even watch them. They are something no former President has done. They tell me the battles continue.
Strangely the January 6th Unselect Committee gives me hope too. If the DS was feeling safe and secure there would be no need for that committee.
Starving for hope? Yeah. Doomers are ALWAYS gonna DOOM. Meanwhile, the rest of us have been watching The Plan come together. Now you're seeing some of the biggest booms in our lifetimes coming from SCOTUS.
The whole system is being rebuilt from the ground up and people "need hope"?
People need HOPE because they never had FAITH.
Agreed. Also good point on your first paragraph.
People who have been in this thing for decades or even just a few years don't care about any new 'Q' because we know why we Fight. We know who the Enemy is even tho sometimes their fake Christian or republican or Patriot outfits fool us.
We know what we Hope to see unfold, we know the horrors to come if we actually get what we Hope to see...we know that not everyone makes it through this.
What can 'Q' offer now, really? It doesn't matter if 'Q' did begin posting unless it was to say, NOW, grab your rifles and meet at the state houses NOW, meet at city hall NOW!
And that ain't how it's gonna work is it, we Hope for a different sort of climax.
We don't need 'Q', any manifestation 'now' would only do what the Enemy seeks, sow confusion. Stick to your positions, stay on course, don't be distracted.
And Pray for Humanity, this is a Spiritual War remember.
https://files.catbox.moe/e4h2uj.jpg
Dan Scavino’s “Baby fist” could be a warning and confirmation that Jim Watkins, and/or known larper “Babyfist” (aka Laughing_MAN), plus Steinbart, and other BOs on 8kun, spoofed Q’s tripcode and started the fake Q posts.
https://imgur.io/a/J22HBR7
Good info in that image.
Beer at the Parade said it best:
@Beer_at_the_Parade
· 7h Were those "Q Drops" real?
Wrong question.
Does it even matter?
Better question.
Do we, as trained, intelligent, critical thinkers "need" an emotional boost?
Welcome to the machine.
You earned your way into the club.
Some people do need an emotional boost. So what he is saying isn't true.
This is exactly where i am. I'm flexable and giving it the benefit of the doubt, but before i went there, i tied a string to the doorframe and left the door open so i can get back out in case it proves to be a hack.
So far they are harmless, but that can be to establish credibility.
Yeah. But I know people who just blindly believe everything and lack critical thinking skills.
So what exactly is the theory here?
That Watkins is posting as Q?
That's where I'm leaning until proven otherwise. Or it's possible bad actors got to Watkins and compromised him, and allowing them to post as if it was Q.
What irritates me about this whole thing is that for years we have staunchly denied the claim that Watkins was posting as Q
Now we're over here floating the possibility.
If Watkins can post as Q now who's to say he hasn't done it before?
This is just irritating lol
Because the old Q always confirmed it was legit with a Trump delta. (Q posts then Trump posts <1 minute later)
I haven't put much thought into this, as I like to wait and see, but I do have to point out that Q's last drop was the song 'we're not going to take it', and Jfk Jr's. supposed 'last' words were 'we're not going to make it'. To me, that meant December 8, 2020 was the 'last' of Q in that form.
https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Kennedy+Jet+Tragedy%3A+We%27re+not+going+to+make+it..+JFK+jnr%27s+final...-a063812189
I'm waiting on his report for now.
If his report says "nothing suspicious" I'll still be waiting for Trump to confirm.
He, working with another person made it possible. Its not 100% who was actually doing the posting. But the theory is, in all likelyhood, yes he was posting as Q.
https://greatawakening.win/p/15IXpLrkOc/x/c/4OZr13SXFvE
Okay everybody, hold off on the Q missions until we know for sure. Seriously, what do you think anyone is going to do other than get all happy and excited if they think it is Q? All of us would like to know one way or the other but I don't think anyone is rushing out and doing anything.
Yeah I don't think many of us would take action if the fake Q told us to do something. But what if the fake Q said to do something, then the hired bad actors (like antifa) did something Q said to do, then media can blame us. Similar to bad actors during Jan 6th pretending to be maga.
I'm mostly concerned with misinfo being posted by the new "Q". So far, it's been pretty boring posts, but it's possible the new Q is trying to establish credibility.
Lots of posts on 8kun where they are calling out anyone saying to be cautious it's not the real Q. Shills out in full force replying to anons calling THEM the shills, when they simply waiting for a confirmation from Trump.
Antifa doesn't need a fake or real Q to do something stupid and evil and media doesn't need antifa and fake or real Q to blame "qanon."
That's true, they don't.
What? Lol...
Or they said "comms established = confirmed" and were first bumping each other over a job well done.
We boo Trump when he's out of line with the vax. Well fuck Q up if he/they get out of line too.
Q+ is the rider, but MAGA is a raging bull. There's no putting that back in the cage at this point.
Perhaps if there was/were new Q post(s) synched to Trump posting on Truth Social; similar to synched posts with twitter back in the day.
Why is this not pinned, but the Q posts are?
Every smart anon is wary and skeptical of everything. We don't need to hear your "warnings" which make you sound fake and gay. Q taught us well.
YOU:
ythehorses 5 points 14 hours ago +5 / -0
This is giving me goosebumps!!!!
Emotions cloud judgement. You want it to be true, I understand that.
This is a wild stretch of a theory to say Q may not be back.
Agreed!