I remember seeing a space module in the London Science Museum. It looked very flimsy, like it was made out of tin foil. Didn't buy it then, still don't buy it. Isn't Buzz Aldrin in a video telling a little girl they never went?
There is an argument that is acceptable, that it isn't that we lost the technology but rather that no one has manufactured anything for that technology and can't readily do so in the last 40 years or whatever.
I still find it a bit odd that we don't go back even for an instant. Higher resolution photography, better radiation protection, brand new samples and a new generation of spacewalkers.
Even if you you believe that we didn't visit the moon before, we are absolutely smart enough and have enough technology to make that possible now.
So the question that always lingers is, "why not?"
It would certainly shut a lot of people up to see it happening live and there are a few goals that can be accomplished.
At this point I half believe there's a base on the dark side of the moon after all.
But they never say anything specific like "nobody makes x or y component anymore." They literally say, "we lost the technology" as if they need some pixey dust and can't find it.
That comes from Obama saying that line first, so consider the source.
A lot of TV manufacturers wouldn't know how to make new CRTs in a short time period for example, especially when it comes to modernizing the technology.
Old technologies can absolutely sort of "age out" and be "forgotten" without a way to rectify it in the short term as sad as that actually is
You make some good points but usually when old tech gets aged out, its because it's been replaced by better, more capable technology. In this case they supposedly "aged out" the shit needed to go to the moon, and only replaced it with shit that can't go to the moon. This from nasa, which has a budget of $20 million per day. I feel like most organizations in possession of technology that could go to and land on a place that isn't earth, would not only value that technology, but continue to improve upon it, especially after 5 decades have gone by.
Get off of this flat earth similar nonsense folks. Yes, we went to the moon a number of times... all real. No it is not artificial or hollow. The "belief" in like things is only that - a belief and not science nor the facts of what happened. Downvote all you want, but maybe someone needs to hear this before going down some garbage rabit hole of "belief".
Well apparently my attempt at separating flat-earth like theories and Q posts wasn't done as tactfully as I thought :) - and, yes, the moon landings have some oddities, but I haven't seen a one that is a clear set "see this is it" - like the wind comments - I see no wind... or are people thinking that because its not drooping down like their common flag on a pole here on earth it must be wind? Maybe I'm just extra jaded after living years of "I want to believe" myself - regardless... NCSWIC!!!
Big Time! I was 20 years old and in the Military in 69! There's no way in hell we went to the moon in 69! It was all a propaganda ploy because the Russian Sputnik program was making big news!
No wind. Why would you think there is wind? There is no atmosphere and greatly reduced gravity so the momentum in planting the flag would have significantly less resistance, perhaps that is what you're seeing?
Saying we didn’t get to the moon isn’t the same as saying earth is flat. Plenty of people on both sides think the government lied about the moon not just flat earthers
You’re holding on to things you don’t actually have evidence for. I would love to “believe” the moon landing footage was real, but again… evidence. You know they claim to have called Nixon from the moon right? On the phone…
I would expect you’ve never actually looked into it and are stuck in an emotional reaction (much like I was) based on what you’ve been told your entire life.
The belt would have to behave differently (which is possible because space changes how things works, but would require experimentation than 99.9999999999999999999999999% of the world's historical population would never be able to perform) than any other radioactive particles for metal not to deflect it.
We already deflect radioactive particles on the surface of the planet using thin foil.
Additionally, the belt(s, plural) are not static, and do not cover the same vast differences at all times. It is very thin around the poles.
Further, you have to consider what an unprotected Van Allen Belt puts into humans; you can survive for a short time, but you are just taking more rads than is normal by a significant margin.
E.g. (arbitrary numbers) a month in the Van Allen Belt could be equal to about a year's worth of background radiation.
There is a lot of technical and scientifically understandable reasoning for why we could get to and from the moon safely.
The more curious thing is how the extremely fast moving space particles didn't tear the foil, and even more curious thing is why we still haven't gone back with better cameras and technology.
There are lot of fake fake footages that have been going around for a while. Unless there is a link to this video on the wikileaks website, I wont take this seriously.
This video does not show NASA astronauts pretending to be on the moon while filming a fake moon landing in the Nevada desert. The majority of the clips in this video were actually taken from a behind-the-scenes look at the 1970s movie “Capricorn One.” For example, one of the opening clips in this hoax video (at roughly 20 seconds when a person looks at a camera) can be seen around the 2:00 minute mark of the following video from the making of this satirical film.
Another way to tell that this rumor is false is by checking Wikileaks. While this organization has published classified materials in the past, it has not released any footage indicating that the moon landing was fake. We were unable to find this “fake moon landing” video on Wikileaks’ website or social media feeds.
What a perfect cover. They can claim moon landing is real, and any real footage of the fake landing could now just be taken as a recreation of this movie. Whether or not we did go or did not go, is of no concern anymore, because it has been SO filled with lies and back tracks, before the truth hounds could ever track the origins of the story, so it's a wash now.
I'm sure the truth is out there, to be sure. There is only one truth to the moon landing story. I'm just not sure we plebs will ever know the real truth.
Either way, what matters is seeking truth, and never just believing some one because they are a "competent" (I'm using that word loosely) authority. This may be one of those things we don't learn. Personally, I think we did not go to the moon (as one of the top commenters said).
"Space may be the final frontier, but it's made in a Hollywood basement."...
I remember seeing a space module in the London Science Museum. It looked very flimsy, like it was made out of tin foil. Didn't buy it then, still don't buy it. Isn't Buzz Aldrin in a video telling a little girl they never went?
Californication....
Funniest opinion i see here frequently: ‘I believe the moon landing footage is fake, but I do believe they went to the moon later’.
And we can't go back. We lost the technology. 😂
There is an argument that is acceptable, that it isn't that we lost the technology but rather that no one has manufactured anything for that technology and can't readily do so in the last 40 years or whatever.
I still find it a bit odd that we don't go back even for an instant. Higher resolution photography, better radiation protection, brand new samples and a new generation of spacewalkers.
Even if you you believe that we didn't visit the moon before, we are absolutely smart enough and have enough technology to make that possible now.
So the question that always lingers is, "why not?"
It would certainly shut a lot of people up to see it happening live and there are a few goals that can be accomplished.
At this point I half believe there's a base on the dark side of the moon after all.
But they never say anything specific like "nobody makes x or y component anymore." They literally say, "we lost the technology" as if they need some pixey dust and can't find it.
That comes from Obama saying that line first, so consider the source.
A lot of TV manufacturers wouldn't know how to make new CRTs in a short time period for example, especially when it comes to modernizing the technology.
Old technologies can absolutely sort of "age out" and be "forgotten" without a way to rectify it in the short term as sad as that actually is
You make some good points but usually when old tech gets aged out, its because it's been replaced by better, more capable technology. In this case they supposedly "aged out" the shit needed to go to the moon, and only replaced it with shit that can't go to the moon. This from nasa, which has a budget of $20 million per day. I feel like most organizations in possession of technology that could go to and land on a place that isn't earth, would not only value that technology, but continue to improve upon it, especially after 5 decades have gone by.
NASA: we erased our data and recorded over it because magnetic tape is so gosh dang expensive and we are so concerned about wasting taxpayers money!
Is that why they're waiting until 2025 to go again?
Do you remember James Bond’s « Diamonds are forever »?
It featured a Nevada lab where they were filming such sequences… maybe it was not just humor…
BTW, it also featured a pair of gay assassins. Definitely clairvoyant.
The latest 007 movie also mirrors the dna weaponry.
If you mean the one ending with Bond’s death, I vowed never to watch it.
Its a good movie. And without sppoiling it too much, his death is befitting of him. Heroic.
Then tie this in with the film "A funny thing happened on the way to the moon" and you will see what they did, ie low earth orbit as per now!
NASA is fake AF.
Defund NASA!
Get off of this flat earth similar nonsense folks. Yes, we went to the moon a number of times... all real. No it is not artificial or hollow. The "belief" in like things is only that - a belief and not science nor the facts of what happened. Downvote all you want, but maybe someone needs to hear this before going down some garbage rabit hole of "belief".
The problem is that people have a burden of proof they don't understand.
https://medium.com/starts-with-a-bang/heres-your-proof-that-we-landed-on-the-moon-steph-curry-3eaa2ada1209
Well apparently my attempt at separating flat-earth like theories and Q posts wasn't done as tactfully as I thought :) - and, yes, the moon landings have some oddities, but I haven't seen a one that is a clear set "see this is it" - like the wind comments - I see no wind... or are people thinking that because its not drooping down like their common flag on a pole here on earth it must be wind? Maybe I'm just extra jaded after living years of "I want to believe" myself - regardless... NCSWIC!!!
where is the wind coming from to blow the American flag in the iconic moon landing photo?
Space wind,... gosh! (napoleon dynamite voice)
They claimed the flag was creased like that to look like the wind was blowing it!
so they faked the wind? could they have faked anything else?
Big Time! I was 20 years old and in the Military in 69! There's no way in hell we went to the moon in 69! It was all a propaganda ploy because the Russian Sputnik program was making big news!
I know why it looks like it was blowing in the wind. they faked the wind. just like they faked it all.
lol no they were caught faking the whole thing and came up with a dumb excuse about how they were only faking that one little flag thing.
sort of like building 7
yep or the election was stolen, the world is run by evil Jews, and the vaccine is actually poison
No wind. Why would you think there is wind? There is no atmosphere and greatly reduced gravity so the momentum in planting the flag would have significantly less resistance, perhaps that is what you're seeing?
Saying we didn’t get to the moon isn’t the same as saying earth is flat. Plenty of people on both sides think the government lied about the moon not just flat earthers
You’re holding on to things you don’t actually have evidence for. I would love to “believe” the moon landing footage was real, but again… evidence. You know they claim to have called Nixon from the moon right? On the phone…
I would expect you’ve never actually looked into it and are stuck in an emotional reaction (much like I was) based on what you’ve been told your entire life.
All you have to do is take a closer look at the lunar module and imagine if it can withstand exiting and reentering the Van Allen belt.
The belt would have to behave differently (which is possible because space changes how things works, but would require experimentation than 99.9999999999999999999999999% of the world's historical population would never be able to perform) than any other radioactive particles for metal not to deflect it.
We already deflect radioactive particles on the surface of the planet using thin foil.
Additionally, the belt(s, plural) are not static, and do not cover the same vast differences at all times. It is very thin around the poles.
Further, you have to consider what an unprotected Van Allen Belt puts into humans; you can survive for a short time, but you are just taking more rads than is normal by a significant margin.
E.g. (arbitrary numbers) a month in the Van Allen Belt could be equal to about a year's worth of background radiation.
There is a lot of technical and scientifically understandable reasoning for why we could get to and from the moon safely.
The more curious thing is how the extremely fast moving space particles didn't tear the foil, and even more curious thing is why we still haven't gone back with better cameras and technology.
There are lot of fake fake footages that have been going around for a while. Unless there is a link to this video on the wikileaks website, I wont take this seriously.
Had a quick look and haven't been able to find one, someone else might.
This is true.
With resolution and depth that low, anyone can easily fake anything.
The bigger problem is they go out of their way to make it look like its coming from wikileaks. Thats the red flag.
Filmed in Nevada desert, apparently.
Moon landing or Capricorn One? (Or both)
Took the post down as too many shills jumping on.
Snopes says this:
This video does not show NASA astronauts pretending to be on the moon while filming a fake moon landing in the Nevada desert. The majority of the clips in this video were actually taken from a behind-the-scenes look at the 1970s movie “Capricorn One.” For example, one of the opening clips in this hoax video (at roughly 20 seconds when a person looks at a camera) can be seen around the 2:00 minute mark of the following video from the making of this satirical film.
Another way to tell that this rumor is false is by checking Wikileaks. While this organization has published classified materials in the past, it has not released any footage indicating that the moon landing was fake. We were unable to find this “fake moon landing” video on Wikileaks’ website or social media feeds.
Wow! Somebody actually believes in Snopes. That is like believing in Dr. Fauci.
The moon is home of aliens, and it’s not a natural formation, could be hollow. Its size and distance make it the same perspective size as the sun.
Prove it.
Waving it under the public's collective nose back in 78...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capricorn_One
What a perfect cover. They can claim moon landing is real, and any real footage of the fake landing could now just be taken as a recreation of this movie. Whether or not we did go or did not go, is of no concern anymore, because it has been SO filled with lies and back tracks, before the truth hounds could ever track the origins of the story, so it's a wash now.
I'm sure the truth is out there, to be sure. There is only one truth to the moon landing story. I'm just not sure we plebs will ever know the real truth.
Either way, what matters is seeking truth, and never just believing some one because they are a "competent" (I'm using that word loosely) authority. This may be one of those things we don't learn. Personally, I think we did not go to the moon (as one of the top commenters said).
Are you an anti semite?
When I was a teenager and way before I ever got in to politics or ‘conspiracy theories’, I always thought the moon landing was a crock of shit.
I wouldn't be surprised if it was filmed at the Lookout Mountain laboratory base, located at the top of Laurel Canyon
https://www.lookoutamerica.org/about
If you are new to the moon landing hoax, start here
https://www.reddit.com/r/ApolloMoonLandingHoax/comments/bee702/if_you_are_new_to_the_apollo_moon_landing_hoax/
Thats how they roll. They come up with the official story, and then they come up with the alternative story.
Example: 9/11
Official story: islamic extremist conspiracy
Alt story: US government conspiracy
Truth: Israel did it.
Watch free: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vAp6s4M8r5c
Or check wikileaks.
Who filmed Neil Armstrong stepping down on the moon? Asking for a friend.
They mounted a camera on the Descent Stage of the Lunar Module and pointed it at the steps
LOL!
http://old.reddit.com/r/ApolloMoonLandingHoax