I agree with you. There is something about him my gut tells me not to trust. When I heard he gave immunity to doctors and hospitals, I thought, that makes me not trust him. He is to slick, like a snake pulling people in and then striking when least expected.
In the speech last night did Trump really say DeSantis cheated on his dying wife after he nicknamed him? I didn't see it but someone quoted it so I am not sure.
Thank you! Wow I don't know why someone would put that in quotes when he didn't say it.
I guess since the story about him cheating on his dying wife and he's a pedo (because of some bad photo floating around when he was a teacher) have been all over today.
AND, he is a jew and keeps mentioning how Trump moved the capital of Israel to Jerusalem.
In my mind, there's a zionist group out there always pushing the 'God's choosen people' narrative, this is not really a debate. I believe he's helping Florida, against the satanists but plying and angling to control Trump and the US for his preferred group.
Many are saying Trump is controlled by the Desantis group. I don't think so.
Where did you get the idea that DeSantis is Jewish? His parents were Italian, and he is seems to have had Catholic parents. I could find no indication of any Jewish ancestry.
Thank you!!!!!! Don't know why people glossed over this as 1. Not alarming and 2. Not a big deal.
You can't be against lock downs but be pro DeSantis who signed into law the ability to have to same option as the Democrat governors.
Hey guys look at me I'm a Maga guy!!! I support you!!!! But I still want to have the legal option of illegally and forcefully detaining you based on subjective criteria in my back pocket just in case! Kthnx! <3 prince magadesantis!
I wonder if it's prep for military intervention EO and handling any fallout related to vax mandates/declass? Not sure how that might play out exactly, but if what you're saying is the case, I find it a glaring error in the plan if FL has a governor that can't be trusted or if this course of action can backfire badly because so much of plan assets are dependent on FL (Space Force, Trump home, Mar-a-Lago SCIF, etc.). Perhaps there are specific conditions that keep it very limited, or perhaps it's a risk that was necessary to take for the plan to work that will be patched up as soon as the swamp is drained (in which case, they better have vetted the guy inside and out from one hole to the other).
I haven't seen this or read through it, though. (Moved back to blue-state hellhole from SWFL to support family, so I haven't kept up as much.) Based on a quick skim of the beginning, it seems to be clarifying what the state and contractors can and cannot do, and it seems to primarily be placing limits, so that ambiguities in the absence of any previous laws directly handling this sort of thing can't be taken advantage of. Not sure though--Would have to read thoroughly to look at the wording and for potential loopholes.
The playbook for tyranny is always a patient one. You slowing take power that the people are willing to give until you hold enough that their consent is no longer required. It is a never ending game - not one individual could live long enough to play it in its entirety. Like any other tyranny player, DeSantis may simply be taking the crumbs of freedom from the people which they are willing to give all while he is being prepped to ultimately splinter the real freedom movement during another mid-to-late game battle.
In this moment, you are not an awakened player but just one among millions that are being played - whether that be by the tyrants or the freedom lovers.
Don’t you think DeSantis has bigger political problems now? He could probably explain away the law you cite to the satisfaction of a lot of voters.
You may well be right about this law, but getting a nickname from President Trump is a a bigger problem politically. Having President Trump tag you with a nickname has a way of ending a person’s political rise. Ask all those guys who ran against him in the 2016 primaries.
Plus, if Kari Lake is elected and governs like she says she will, DeSantis’ star will quickly fade.
Not to be a cocksucker.....But Trump literally let them lock us in our houses for 2 weeks. Both people fucked up. Doesnt mean they are bad guys. Means they are humans. O_O
I believe there was a lot of military action during the lockup and people were getting picked up and tunnels were being emptied and destroyed. That lockdown was to keep people safe and not have them panicking. My opinion, anyway.
Right, that was YOUR personal experience. Some people got locked up at the beaches. I am not saying it's anyones fault. I am saying Trump kind of step back and let it happen. I understand he said it was individual state mandates......but it still happened. Trump gave Faucci to much power. And that was his fault. That's what fucked us. And for the record. I am not in agreement with deSantis either. Like I said....both of them made a mistake. Humans do that sometimes dude.
I know some people on here criticize Anons who scrutinize and question potential DS sleepers, but I for one love it. Not to say anyones right or wrong but isn’t that the whole point of (these) site(s)? To share ideas and question everything? I’m all for it. And we know that the DS plays the long game. So for Desantis to do most things right but also do very questionable things, I for one am very skeptical of him and could see the DS planting him in that position and to tell him to do everything in his power to do things that get the support of people, all while at the same time to do the deeds of whoever is calling the shots in the DS whenever he gets in a position of power. I mean we have seen it countless times where who we thought was a true patriot, suddenly switches their tune once they are in power. ALWAYS question!!!! Red,blue,independent etc.
You know, I can't recall either and very possible he has not.
Still, id argue that is a current issue in politics. I shouldn't need to wait for my governor to be questioned by news outlets already in collusion with about a particular policy or law. There needs to be more transparency, if you're signing something into law than there should already be an accompanying reason, argument or otherwise. Let alone there should be agreement or understanding on it prior to it even being law.
sanctimonious: making a show of being morally superior to other people. a feeling or display of (usually smug) moral superiority derived from a sense that one's beliefs, actions, or affiliations are of greater virtue than those of the average person.
DeSanctimonus
Dejected [from Maga] for pursuing self serving goals rather than those of the people?
I don't know why Trump did that, same as I don't know why Trump lied to us about the Second Amendment, or why he lied to us when he said he would not sign CRs unless they contained wall money but then did sign them.
Same as I don't know why Trump told us the fake vaccines were safe when we knew they were poison.
Trump might be pissing in his own corn flakes here, a lot of voters are wondering about him these days.
From what I understand he did NOT sign that. This stupid bill was brought up months ago, and Desantis personally brought this up at the public signing, and signed an amendment to get rid of it.
So i did a little bit of looking, and he's not lying. Basically, the bill you keep pasting is not current. It's not what I personally expected, but he is playing a little bit of semantics. He did in fact sign a bill that seems to make that bill defunct in some way.
https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2021B/7B
Under the same section that you are telling us, "vaccination" is crossed out.
I watched a video yesterday where it was explained how Lenin taught how to play and control both sides—-communists and anti-communists. They were both owned by the same people. “Two sides” is an artificial construct, just like our political parties. I sincerely hope this isn’t true.
I see it as a warning shot across DeSantis's bow. A warning to NOT ally himself with the RINO wing of the party and be used as a stooge to try and split the vote between him and Trump in 2024. Not the first time the left tried to push a "spoiler" candidate to derail someone they feared.
If DeSantis stays true to MAGA, his time will certainly come. Look at Pence. He could have easily been the next president in 2024. How's his political career working out for him now?
4. Ordering an individual to be examined, tested, treated, isolated, or quarantined for communicable diseases that have significant morbidity or mortality and present a severe danger to public health. Individuals who are unable or unwilling to be examined, tested, or treated for reasons of health, religion, or conscience may be subjected to isolation or quarantine.
I couldn't find any statement requiring forced vaccinations; only the sections that PROHIBIT forced vaccinations.
I'm thinking this "DeSantis signed a bill allowing forced vaccinations" is just vicious rumor at this point.
That seems to contradict the item 4, which includes being able to opt out for reasons of health, religion, or conscience, which may result in isolation or quarantine, but DOES allow a person to avoid forced treatment or vaccination. So at this point, I would need to have a law expert explain the totality of the legislation.
All of this is the biggest show in the history of the world. Many someones are acting, NO ONE can be trusted until there is some sort of resolve and 5 years or so pass..and they will have let you know by then what their true motives were.
People were up in arms when Trump gave Operation Warp Speed a green light. Then a year or so later, we realize that it was likely to show the industry and government officials involved as frauds, liars and killers. Those same people then thought Trump was a genius for letting it happen.
The same opportunity should be given to DeSantis.
Also, please remember, the lower you go on the political scale, the less control and influence you have on local decisions. Yes, a governor has considerable control and influence, but he is beholden to the people of the state. I also don't expect him to read though every single line.
Sources are good. As far as a scale of most to least RINO where would you guys say DeSantis compares to Govs from AZ, GA and Texas, or other states with R governors?
I can't link to it but if you go here, switch the year to 2004, and browse to section 381.00315, you'll see the clause existed then as well.
I believe the full text of the section was included in this bill to provide context, rather than just listing the specific parts that would be added or removed.
I agree with you. There is something about him my gut tells me not to trust. When I heard he gave immunity to doctors and hospitals, I thought, that makes me not trust him. He is to slick, like a snake pulling people in and then striking when least expected.
In the speech last night did Trump really say DeSantis cheated on his dying wife after he nicknamed him? I didn't see it but someone quoted it so I am not sure.
nah, here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vi4DbbAD3QA
Thank you! Wow I don't know why someone would put that in quotes when he didn't say it. I guess since the story about him cheating on his dying wife and he's a pedo (because of some bad photo floating around when he was a teacher) have been all over today.
AND, he is a jew and keeps mentioning how Trump moved the capital of Israel to Jerusalem.
In my mind, there's a zionist group out there always pushing the 'God's choosen people' narrative, this is not really a debate. I believe he's helping Florida, against the satanists but plying and angling to control Trump and the US for his preferred group.
Many are saying Trump is controlled by the Desantis group. I don't think so.
Who knows!
Where did you get the idea that DeSantis is Jewish? His parents were Italian, and he is seems to have had Catholic parents. I could find no indication of any Jewish ancestry.
Thank you!!!!!! Don't know why people glossed over this as 1. Not alarming and 2. Not a big deal.
You can't be against lock downs but be pro DeSantis who signed into law the ability to have to same option as the Democrat governors.
Hey guys look at me I'm a Maga guy!!! I support you!!!! But I still want to have the legal option of illegally and forcefully detaining you based on subjective criteria in my back pocket just in case! Kthnx! <3 prince magadesantis!
True. But most strange he is not enforced vaccine passports mandates along with illegal immigration especially from covid, all through it.
Covid is over. Who cares.
Do you think DeSantis will lock us down in the next term? I don't.
I wonder if it's prep for military intervention EO and handling any fallout related to vax mandates/declass? Not sure how that might play out exactly, but if what you're saying is the case, I find it a glaring error in the plan if FL has a governor that can't be trusted or if this course of action can backfire badly because so much of plan assets are dependent on FL (Space Force, Trump home, Mar-a-Lago SCIF, etc.). Perhaps there are specific conditions that keep it very limited, or perhaps it's a risk that was necessary to take for the plan to work that will be patched up as soon as the swamp is drained (in which case, they better have vetted the guy inside and out from one hole to the other).
I haven't seen this or read through it, though. (Moved back to blue-state hellhole from SWFL to support family, so I haven't kept up as much.) Based on a quick skim of the beginning, it seems to be clarifying what the state and contractors can and cannot do, and it seems to primarily be placing limits, so that ambiguities in the absence of any previous laws directly handling this sort of thing can't be taken advantage of. Not sure though--Would have to read thoroughly to look at the wording and for potential loopholes.
Thanks for bringing it up.
The playbook for tyranny is always a patient one. You slowing take power that the people are willing to give until you hold enough that their consent is no longer required. It is a never ending game - not one individual could live long enough to play it in its entirety. Like any other tyranny player, DeSantis may simply be taking the crumbs of freedom from the people which they are willing to give all while he is being prepped to ultimately splinter the real freedom movement during another mid-to-late game battle.
In this moment, you are not an awakened player but just one among millions that are being played - whether that be by the tyrants or the freedom lovers.
Don’t you think DeSantis has bigger political problems now? He could probably explain away the law you cite to the satisfaction of a lot of voters.
You may well be right about this law, but getting a nickname from President Trump is a a bigger problem politically. Having President Trump tag you with a nickname has a way of ending a person’s political rise. Ask all those guys who ran against him in the 2016 primaries.
Plus, if Kari Lake is elected and governs like she says she will, DeSantis’ star will quickly fade.
Not to be a cocksucker.....But Trump literally let them lock us in our houses for 2 weeks. Both people fucked up. Doesnt mean they are bad guys. Means they are humans. O_O
I believe there was a lot of military action during the lockup and people were getting picked up and tunnels were being emptied and destroyed. That lockdown was to keep people safe and not have them panicking. My opinion, anyway.
Right, that was YOUR personal experience. Some people got locked up at the beaches. I am not saying it's anyones fault. I am saying Trump kind of step back and let it happen. I understand he said it was individual state mandates......but it still happened. Trump gave Faucci to much power. And that was his fault. That's what fucked us. And for the record. I am not in agreement with deSantis either. Like I said....both of them made a mistake. Humans do that sometimes dude.
I know some people on here criticize Anons who scrutinize and question potential DS sleepers, but I for one love it. Not to say anyones right or wrong but isn’t that the whole point of (these) site(s)? To share ideas and question everything? I’m all for it. And we know that the DS plays the long game. So for Desantis to do most things right but also do very questionable things, I for one am very skeptical of him and could see the DS planting him in that position and to tell him to do everything in his power to do things that get the support of people, all while at the same time to do the deeds of whoever is calling the shots in the DS whenever he gets in a position of power. I mean we have seen it countless times where who we thought was a true patriot, suddenly switches their tune once they are in power. ALWAYS question!!!! Red,blue,independent etc.
DeSantis needs to be given an opportunity to explain his reasons for signing this law. Hopefully this question will be asked
He's long had the opportunity. This wasn't exactly signed yesterday.
I don't recall him ever being questioned on it
You know, I can't recall either and very possible he has not.
Still, id argue that is a current issue in politics. I shouldn't need to wait for my governor to be questioned by news outlets already in collusion with about a particular policy or law. There needs to be more transparency, if you're signing something into law than there should already be an accompanying reason, argument or otherwise. Let alone there should be agreement or understanding on it prior to it even being law.
Merriam-Webster’s dictionary definition of sanctimonious = hypocritically pious or devout Latin meaning for De = from, away from, out of
I am having a hard time figuring out exactly what exactly that just might mean. Many situations or things are not as they seem.
My thoughts as well. Tie breaker for me at the moment is how only cabal seems to get nicknames from DJT
Just adding my initial thoughts.
De- made me think of deject/dejected.
sanctimonious: making a show of being morally superior to other people. a feeling or display of (usually smug) moral superiority derived from a sense that one's beliefs, actions, or affiliations are of greater virtue than those of the average person.
DeSanctimonus
Dejected [from Maga] for pursuing self serving goals rather than those of the people?
Signaling his divergence from Maga?
First time Trump gave a nickname to a non DS. Or....
I don't know why Trump did that, same as I don't know why Trump lied to us about the Second Amendment, or why he lied to us when he said he would not sign CRs unless they contained wall money but then did sign them.
Same as I don't know why Trump told us the fake vaccines were safe when we knew they were poison.
Trump might be pissing in his own corn flakes here, a lot of voters are wondering about him these days.
didn't he sign that bumpstock bill too?
Yeah that was his lie about the 2nd.
From what I understand he did NOT sign that. This stupid bill was brought up months ago, and Desantis personally brought this up at the public signing, and signed an amendment to get rid of it.
Sauce, please.
weird. here it is https://youtu.be/R0AwLaM1Ncc 31:30 timestamp
So i did a little bit of looking, and he's not lying. Basically, the bill you keep pasting is not current. It's not what I personally expected, but he is playing a little bit of semantics. He did in fact sign a bill that seems to make that bill defunct in some way. https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2021B/7B Under the same section that you are telling us, "vaccination" is crossed out.
fuck I'll have to hunt it down. he says "and this is the big one..."
I watched a video yesterday where it was explained how Lenin taught how to play and control both sides—-communists and anti-communists. They were both owned by the same people. “Two sides” is an artificial construct, just like our political parties. I sincerely hope this isn’t true.
It is.
Here Is the the statement from DeSantis' office: https://www.flgov.com/2021/05/03/governor-ron-desantis-signs-landmark-legislation-to-ban-vaccine-passports-and-stem-government-overreach/
and here are some 'amendments' https://www.flgov.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/EO_21-101.pdf
https://www.flgov.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/EO_21-102.pdf
A good chunk of us have been warning about Desantis but have fallen on deaf ears. He is accepting bribes from Ken Griffin.
Yeah I've always wondered if he was controlled opposition, especially with his Yale background. Never trusted him, but wasn't entirely sure.
I see it as a warning shot across DeSantis's bow. A warning to NOT ally himself with the RINO wing of the party and be used as a stooge to try and split the vote between him and Trump in 2024. Not the first time the left tried to push a "spoiler" candidate to derail someone they feared.
If DeSantis stays true to MAGA, his time will certainly come. Look at Pence. He could have easily been the next president in 2024. How's his political career working out for him now?
Here is a section of the Florida law:
4. Ordering an individual to be examined, tested, treated, isolated, or quarantined for communicable diseases that have significant morbidity or mortality and present a severe danger to public health. Individuals who are unable or unwilling to be examined, tested, or treated for reasons of health, religion, or conscience may be subjected to isolation or quarantine.
I couldn't find any statement requiring forced vaccinations; only the sections that PROHIBIT forced vaccinations.
I'm thinking this "DeSantis signed a bill allowing forced vaccinations" is just vicious rumor at this point.
That seems to contradict the item 4, which includes being able to opt out for reasons of health, religion, or conscience, which may result in isolation or quarantine, but DOES allow a person to avoid forced treatment or vaccination. So at this point, I would need to have a law expert explain the totality of the legislation.
We all want to know the truth, so please get their input and post here!
All of this is the biggest show in the history of the world. Many someones are acting, NO ONE can be trusted until there is some sort of resolve and 5 years or so pass..and they will have let you know by then what their true motives were.
People were up in arms when Trump gave Operation Warp Speed a green light. Then a year or so later, we realize that it was likely to show the industry and government officials involved as frauds, liars and killers. Those same people then thought Trump was a genius for letting it happen.
The same opportunity should be given to DeSantis.
Also, please remember, the lower you go on the political scale, the less control and influence you have on local decisions. Yes, a governor has considerable control and influence, but he is beholden to the people of the state. I also don't expect him to read though every single line.
Sources are good. As far as a scale of most to least RINO where would you guys say DeSantis compares to Govs from AZ, GA and Texas, or other states with R governors?
In case anyone is reading, this bill the poster is mentioning appears to be counteracted with this bill. https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2021B/7B
I can't link to it but if you go here, switch the year to 2004, and browse to section 381.00315, you'll see the clause existed then as well.
I believe the full text of the section was included in this bill to provide context, rather than just listing the specific parts that would be added or removed.