I may be completely wrong, but I thought Snowden was originally CIA (once a part, you never leave) who blew the whistle on the NSA…because the NSA (and by extension, MI) was collecting the same “data” that, up until then, only the CIA had proprietary rights over. Hmmm.
Once C_A always C_A?
Former C_A elected to Congress?
Former C_A running for Congress?
Former C_A running for Senate?
Former C_A elected to Senate?
Former C_A elected to Presidency?
Define ‘black op’ [clandestine]
Once C_A always C_A?
@Snowden pre_NSA?
@Snowden base of ops [geo location]?
Whistleblower(s) vs. POTUS?
Former C_A?
Define ‘black op’ [clandestine]
What happens if rogue elements of US AB[C] intel agency target [to insert] US political system [President, VP, House, Senate, NSC, US Amb., etc.] in ‘black op’ designated to control friend vs. foe targeting [self-preservation]?
NSA v C_A
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I personally know a husband and wife team that did leave. They asked and were repeatedly denied. Then the wife did something that the CIA was not very happy about (I won't say what she did but it can be found easily if you know where to look) and in the process both of their covers were blown. The situation was embarrassing enough to the CIA that they parted ways after the CIA was forced to confirm to the media they were in fact CIA officers. Both have different careers now. Note - they did not do anything illegal to leave (meaning they weren't double agents or stealing secrets or anything like that). I worked with the husband for over 5 years (after their CIA careers - I was never CIA).
I may be wrong. I understood that the NSA does unwarranted spying on all Americans and collect data. I can't see how they are the good guys. If a guy exposes them, seems like a good thing.
He was useful and opened a lot of peoples eyes to the spying. He should be pardoned on those grounds. However if he was involved with anything outside of his whistleblowing that was unconstitutional and/or illegal, he should be held accountable for it
I don't think that is quite true, Trump was informed by Admiral Rodgers who was the head of the NSA that he was being spied on, not some wannabe hacker like kimdotcom.
Makes me think the refusing the pardon is just grandstanding to seem important.
Kimdotcom was always kinda a scammer in his early life and then snitched on his former friends in the release scene then went on to do more kinds of phone fraud, he also tried to pretend he invented some way to hack T-Mobiles GSM network with some kind of device which was later found out to be a fake.
You have to remember at the time he did most of these things people thought anyone who could do anything on a computer was some great hacker genius so the press was always running these stories, when some idiot with a modem called up the pentagon and guessed some passwords it was seen as the greatest hack in the world, but then these "geniuses" would always get caught by dialing in straight from home but the news did not know any better so the person was always some great genius.
he used this fake street cred to start a computer security company which also faked things to appear like they new what they were doing.
Also stock manipulation where he made a million euros by doing a pump and dump claiming he was going to invest in this dotcom company shares went up thinking he was going to save the day but he just scammed them.
Not to say he could not change his ways as he got older but i think he is a bit of conman and managed to trick people into thinking he was this genius hacker but really was just lying, but it made him rich and then he has styled himself as this great hero.
So the short of it he has committed lots of crimes, snitching and a bunch of other low stuff we probably have not heard about.
Did feel like he got screwed with the whole megaupload thing, but it could just be a cia cover like with snowden being this great hero.
I do think Assange should be pardoned
snowden is a cia asset who used his dumping of data as a way to hurt the NSA even though the cia did just as much spying and also murder, child trafficking and god knows what else but snowden did not have a problem with any of that as he worked for the cia and still does.
Also does anyone else think its strange that snowden is always on the tv and being promoted by the fake news which is ran by the cia also, its all bullshit.
he would have been killed long ago if he did anything that was not planned by the cabal.
Can't take any of this seriously. We have this fat fuck who stole billions from everyday people and funding the communist party of demofags. Still walking around, still alive, still out of prison.
Double standard of justice is something that is becoming "normalized" for us. This isn't good. It is exactly what Bezmenov was talking about. Normalization.
Beginning to realize that justice might have to be done by the people themselves. The system is completely corrupt. We are assigned to do this by the Constitution, The question is when the people have had enough and do something about it.
Is anything else provided like the names of these people who were, according to Kim, part of "Trumps inner circle"? Any details about how, where and when this pardon was supposedly offered that Kim now claims that he virtuously turned down?
Kims offering, wittingly or unwittingly, a fun "How Psywar Savvy Are You?" Test.
When Assange has his charges dropped it will indicate that the cabal beast is bleeding-out. I was thinking this morning about the absolute clarity JFK had about what the alphabet agencies/4th branch of our government had planned for the enslavement of humanity. He said it. And that he wanted to dismantle it (agency) and scatter it to the four winds. We all know this is why he was murdered. It is a horror and a disgrace. Trump and JFK jr, solid friends, had a very clear picture of the who and the why, and decades of contemplation about revenge. And then the same evil, killed John. (Debatable I know, but I sadly feel they took him out... he was an obstacle to HC's political aspirations in NY) what remained was Trump and his icy rage about John jr. JFK and RFK. Trump's intellect, his knowledge of the system that needs dismantling, his street savvy and his belief in revenge certainly made him the person to do the job with the White Hats/Alliance. And Assange knows all! So many people have been murdered to hide the truth! The Dark Side finances and feeds itself with trafficking and exploitation of our children and various forms harvesting which all mean death. It is Earth's most lucrative industry of the worst behaviors and rituals imaginable. Add to this, drug and weapons industry and corrupt Big Pharma. It can't continue. If we are aware and do not crush it, we remain cursed. The magnitude of this situation exceeds what many minds can even grasp, so they must be shown. Crushing us with a fake pandemic and Big Pharma plot to control humans through terror and genocide can't hold back the truth tsunami that approaches nor will engineered worldwide shortages and destruction of supply chains. All the handwriting is on the wall. We know who is pulling all these strings. Their days are numbered.
Assange …yes…not sure about Snowden.
That’s exactly how I feel.
I guess Kdc may know more about the whole thing than we heard via MSM.... I expect that shapes our respective viewpoints...
I think Snowden too.
I may be completely wrong, but I thought Snowden was originally CIA (once a part, you never leave) who blew the whistle on the NSA…because the NSA (and by extension, MI) was collecting the same “data” that, up until then, only the CIA had proprietary rights over. Hmmm.
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Once C_A always C_A? Former C_A elected to Congress? Former C_A running for Congress? Former C_A running for Senate? Former C_A elected to Senate? Former C_A elected to Presidency? Define ‘black op’ [clandestine] Once C_A always C_A? @Snowden pre_NSA? @Snowden base of ops [geo location]? Whistleblower(s) vs. POTUS? Former C_A? Define ‘black op’ [clandestine] What happens if rogue elements of US AB[C] intel agency target [to insert] US political system [President, VP, House, Senate, NSC, US Amb., etc.] in ‘black op’ designated to control friend vs. foe targeting [self-preservation]? NSA v C_A Q
I personally know a husband and wife team that did leave. They asked and were repeatedly denied. Then the wife did something that the CIA was not very happy about (I won't say what she did but it can be found easily if you know where to look) and in the process both of their covers were blown. The situation was embarrassing enough to the CIA that they parted ways after the CIA was forced to confirm to the media they were in fact CIA officers. Both have different careers now. Note - they did not do anything illegal to leave (meaning they weren't double agents or stealing secrets or anything like that). I worked with the husband for over 5 years (after their CIA careers - I was never CIA).
You mean they didn't get disappeared?
She was very public with what she did.
Very interesting
I may be wrong. I understood that the NSA does unwarranted spying on all Americans and collect data. I can't see how they are the good guys. If a guy exposes them, seems like a good thing.
He was useful and opened a lot of peoples eyes to the spying. He should be pardoned on those grounds. However if he was involved with anything outside of his whistleblowing that was unconstitutional and/or illegal, he should be held accountable for it
Assange, yes. But Q was pretty fucking clear that Snowden is a TRAITOR.
https://qagg.news/?q=snowden
u/#q2612
Snowden was a bad actor, so Trump couldn’t do that.
How does Kim not know this?
So glad how many comments highlight this :)
I don't think that is quite true, Trump was informed by Admiral Rodgers who was the head of the NSA that he was being spied on, not some wannabe hacker like kimdotcom. Makes me think the refusing the pardon is just grandstanding to seem important.
Kimdotcom was always kinda a scammer in his early life and then snitched on his former friends in the release scene then went on to do more kinds of phone fraud, he also tried to pretend he invented some way to hack T-Mobiles GSM network with some kind of device which was later found out to be a fake.
You have to remember at the time he did most of these things people thought anyone who could do anything on a computer was some great hacker genius so the press was always running these stories, when some idiot with a modem called up the pentagon and guessed some passwords it was seen as the greatest hack in the world, but then these "geniuses" would always get caught by dialing in straight from home but the news did not know any better so the person was always some great genius.
he used this fake street cred to start a computer security company which also faked things to appear like they new what they were doing.
Also stock manipulation where he made a million euros by doing a pump and dump claiming he was going to invest in this dotcom company shares went up thinking he was going to save the day but he just scammed them.
Kimdotcom story
Not to say he could not change his ways as he got older but i think he is a bit of conman and managed to trick people into thinking he was this genius hacker but really was just lying, but it made him rich and then he has styled himself as this great hero.
So the short of it he has committed lots of crimes, snitching and a bunch of other low stuff we probably have not heard about.
Did feel like he got screwed with the whole megaupload thing, but it could just be a cia cover like with snowden being this great hero.
I do think Assange should be pardoned
snowden is a cia asset who used his dumping of data as a way to hurt the NSA even though the cia did just as much spying and also murder, child trafficking and god knows what else but snowden did not have a problem with any of that as he worked for the cia and still does. Also does anyone else think its strange that snowden is always on the tv and being promoted by the fake news which is ran by the cia also, its all bullshit. he would have been killed long ago if he did anything that was not planned by the cabal.
Does anyone recall Trump's comments about the 400 lb hacker?
Source for Trump offering Kim a pardon == Kim?
Pardoning Assange was not yet part of the plan at the time. His exile is the only reason he's still alive.
Should've taken the deal, Kim.
What was Kim's supposed crime?
I came across this to give some background information.
https://www.techdirt.com/2015/03/27/how-us-government-legally-stole-millions-kim-dotcom/
I believe it was ostensibly for illegal file-sharing: like napster for movies, but I'm just going off memory.
Can't take any of this seriously. We have this fat fuck who stole billions from everyday people and funding the communist party of demofags. Still walking around, still alive, still out of prison.
Double standard of justice is something that is becoming "normalized" for us. This isn't good. It is exactly what Bezmenov was talking about. Normalization.
Beginning to realize that justice might have to be done by the people themselves. The system is completely corrupt. We are assigned to do this by the Constitution, The question is when the people have had enough and do something about it.
Kim was a pain in the ass on that call though, like having a dithery old person selecting ice cream flavors holding up the queue.
I have followed Kdc for a while. I wish though that we had his take on what was going on in NZ..... I assume that he was cancel cultured...
Here's Kim's comment in regards to this. He was approached by Trumps inner circle for a pardon.
https://twitter.com/KimDotcom/status/1599511342293352449?
Source: Kim?
Is anything else provided like the names of these people who were, according to Kim, part of "Trumps inner circle"? Any details about how, where and when this pardon was supposedly offered that Kim now claims that he virtuously turned down?
Kims offering, wittingly or unwittingly, a fun "How Psywar Savvy Are You?" Test.
80% still dont trust trump then. All emotion people run on. No logic.
Kim was my childhood hero. Still is.
isn't there a strong Kim n Seth Rich (Panda) connection?
u/#q3586
When Assange has his charges dropped it will indicate that the cabal beast is bleeding-out. I was thinking this morning about the absolute clarity JFK had about what the alphabet agencies/4th branch of our government had planned for the enslavement of humanity. He said it. And that he wanted to dismantle it (agency) and scatter it to the four winds. We all know this is why he was murdered. It is a horror and a disgrace. Trump and JFK jr, solid friends, had a very clear picture of the who and the why, and decades of contemplation about revenge. And then the same evil, killed John. (Debatable I know, but I sadly feel they took him out... he was an obstacle to HC's political aspirations in NY) what remained was Trump and his icy rage about John jr. JFK and RFK. Trump's intellect, his knowledge of the system that needs dismantling, his street savvy and his belief in revenge certainly made him the person to do the job with the White Hats/Alliance. And Assange knows all! So many people have been murdered to hide the truth! The Dark Side finances and feeds itself with trafficking and exploitation of our children and various forms harvesting which all mean death. It is Earth's most lucrative industry of the worst behaviors and rituals imaginable. Add to this, drug and weapons industry and corrupt Big Pharma. It can't continue. If we are aware and do not crush it, we remain cursed. The magnitude of this situation exceeds what many minds can even grasp, so they must be shown. Crushing us with a fake pandemic and Big Pharma plot to control humans through terror and genocide can't hold back the truth tsunami that approaches nor will engineered worldwide shortages and destruction of supply chains. All the handwriting is on the wall. We know who is pulling all these strings. Their days are numbered.