I know InfoWars and Mr. Stone aren't the most popular or trusted of the bunch and there are decent arguments against them.
However, Roger Stone is a LEGENDARY organizer and platform architect in Republican politics and has had RARE LEVELS of access and experience in Washington D.C. during his lifetime. The INSIGHTS and MAPPING he provides here is SECOND TO NONE.
Simply put, this is what Roger Stone knows better than almost anyone. No one else I've heard has broken it down so well and given clear, logic reasoning for both sides, which leads us to his predictions for next moves and likeliest outcomes. I was very impressed and I think you will be too!
This is the meat and potatoes breakdown. Stone covers just about everything here. Importantly he makes the note that the 'Red Wave' showing up in reality as a 'Pink Drizzle' in part due to McCarthy ignoring and spending to stifle many America First candidates has put him in this position. The Establishment cut off its nose to spite its face and THIS IS THE RESULT THEY DESERVE.
Roger Stone brilliantly elucidates all of the fantastic fuck ups that led McCarthy to where he is and shows how he is basically between a rock and a hard place. McConnell and McCarthy have ALMOST THE SAME voting record. McCarthy losing votes as the rounds continue is a death knell and his only way out would be to work a deal with the Dems; if Dems vote present and reduce the magic number from 218 down to 198, McCarthy theoretically could make it over the hurdle. BUT HE WOULD LOSE VOTES IMMEDIATELY from the Republican side, who would be pressured and shamed by their voters back home if they then cast a vote for McCarthy and colluded in such a plot with Dems. McCarthy's support is VERY WRAPPED UP in elections and campaigns so he would be unable to "sell" Republican colleagues on the idea of working with Jeffries & Dems - they would have the bottom drop out on them.
Stone says despite all this, McCarthy will continue to press and keep his name in the voting despite it being IMPOSSIBLE for him to win now. Although the best and honorable thing to do would be to step aside, Stone says that McCarthy cannot, because his 'owners' in lobbyist groups, Wall Street etc. PAID A LOT OF MONEY TO PUT HIM IN and they want RETURN ON INVESTMENT. He couldn't stop now even if he wanted to.
A look deeper into the tactics and strategy of the 20 dissenters. How they did a flawless job and could break this open and create real change that's good for America. Donalds could be the front runner soon. Lauren Boebert whooped stupid Sean Hannity's ass. Pence and media don't move the needle. Using Trump statement to attack Gaetz and others fell flat on its face. Stone correctly guesses Trump will be put forward; received confirmation from Mar-a Lago that POTUS WOULD CONSIDER SERVING.
This is wonderful stuff folks i hope you take time to check it out! I have to say i normally don't watch much AJ or Infowars but when it comes to this subject and the Demar Hamlin incident they have had good coverage and been on the money lately.
I gave a bullet point breakdown of the major stuff in a different thread if you want to read through it. Didn't want to make this one too long! Too good not to share though.
I really enjoy Gaetz and have for a while now - very excited to see him catch the limelight for a moment right now! We NEED people like him to become our future leaders, once we cull all the McCarthy types.
Godspeed all!
This is one of those videos that will require suspending our distaste for the messenger(s) and instead analyse the message. Probably the best analysis so far. Worth a watch for every anon.
Roger Stone had FBI knock down his door and break into his home. He also worked with a few presidents.
Infowars might be the only platform he could go on.
He does Elijah Streams regularly, like once a month
That's what we should always do with the message, unless the messenger has such a poor reputation that it would make more sense to listen with the aim to discredit.
Agreed, but sometimes we have to specifically remind people.
I couldn't have said it any better. We all know about AJ and who really bankrolls his platform, and honestly how do you not laugh at a name like the "Stone Zone"? 🤣 A (usually) dubious source, but shockingly, no salt required here.
Unbeknownst to me however, Stone has a rare gift for this type of thing. If only he just stuck to this.
In any case, thank you for the endorsement and visibility! Hopefully it will help others put aside their reservations too, because as you say, there really is a wealth of information here.
I know how much people hate Stone, but I personally don't. I think he is a brilliant guy who has played a big role behind the scenes, and I ignore the crazy optics he throws. He is either eccentric or he plays a good role.
Anyone who took hits for Trump is a friend of ours
God Bless Roger Stone
Concur. This post is structurally and formatically outstanding. P
Wow, thank you. As a writer that is one of those things you always worry about how it comes across to the reader... if it works effectively and doesn't become obnoxious.
Feedback like this gives me confidence to stay in my own voice more often; it's how I prefer to get the most important parts of the message out, and I tend to overthink and go in circles when I stay too far. Sincerely appreciated fren!
I agree. If nothing else, fellow posters, please for godzakes use PARAGRAPHS in any post longer than a few lines.
To make a new paragraph, you must hit the Enter key twice. Not once. Twice. Then you get actual paragraphs that are much easier to read.
No problem, glad you liked it. I feel the same way - the Twitter Spaces seem like a better version of the AMA sessions that Reddit used to do. I may be dating myself with that reference >_>
Nonetheless another efficient and enjoyable bypass method to the MSM. They mentioned that reporters hate having to join in order to ask questions. It must feel all wrong for these corporate douchebags to not have home field advantage every time, with no ability to deceptively edit or throw GOTCHA or SOFTBALLS at people without everyone hearing it instantly. Not so fun when things are fair, eh? Cowards.
As for Gaetz I had the same problem as you. I think it's something to do with his facial expressions and tone of voice: he could be ordering a cup of coffee and sound smarmy and arrogant, probably! 🤣
The longer I've tuned into him the more I have come to realize he is just very skilled at discourse and doesnt mask his intelligence. Couple that with an unfortunate "resting bitch face" and perception =/= reality... funny also, that I have A LOT of the same issues. I've been wrongly accused of sarcasm and the like more times than I can count.
So you can't judge a book by its cover... a lesson we've continued to learn and refine our thinking about as the Trump era has gone on.
I'm glad Gaetz is getting a moment in the sun here, too. Real patriots like him deserve it and he has been very diligent with his opportunity, as it was mentioned, he is very good at playing the media. Not altogether different than Kari Lake, when you consider it. 😁
Again, the CIA/Mossad isn’t behind Alex Jones or else he’d be supporting McCarthy.
Some disinfo was necessary. They couldn’t have the Q movement look like the Infowars movement, so they created distance.
THIS^^^
Q specifically stated that Alex Jones is Mossad funded. What are you trying to pull here?
I already explained: some disinfo is necessary.
Use logic.
Alex Jones decoded as controlled opposition and MOS funded:
https://decodingsymbols.wordpress.com/2022/10/30/coffee-water/
Good lord. Alex sells water filtration devices so he’s Mossad. Got it. SMH
you got it!
Curious - either you or Roger Stone (above in your 7th pp) said that McCarthy is striking signed deals with Dems for their vote but this would result in loss of R votes - How would R's even know what backroom deals are made in this situation? How do D's even enforce a contract such as this? (If McCarthy wishes to renege after he gets votes, what is the 'penalty'? Can't unelect him at that point.)
Sorry, I was worried I didn't explain this well. What Stone was basically saying (and I'll have to go back and listen again but I believe it's in the first clip actually, the long 29 minute one) was that McCarthy could work a deal with Dems where they vote present instead of casting it for Hakeem Jeffries (which would lower the 218 total he needs down by 1 for each present vote) and that would be a way to get him over the threshold.
I think the R's find out via regular gossip and turmoil in the pro forma session, but at latest they find out when the vote actually starts! So they either stick with the plan to vote McCarthy or go to Option B quickly.
There would be political blowback and fallout for those in the McCarthy camp from their voters if they continued to support him and the Dems pulled their weight to lower the number and get him in. It would be UNIPARTY right out in public after all. Working with the people who have screwed us the past two years.
Keep in mind he hasn't done this and likely can't just due to the political pressures. If they do it would be interesting to watch the MSM make excuses for him - all of a sudden CNN and MSNBC are treating McCarthy with favorable views even now.
But I think the point Stone was making was that if he did it would be political suicide, kinda.
Contract enforcement? That's the other side of this. Dems would likely request committee appointments rules adjustments etc. and have some part of things implemented before McCarthy gets voted on - same as the dissenters are doing with him now. There is no way to force him one way or the other after which is the same problem the dissenters have.
So it's likely that whatever the Dems would request of him would be so egregious it wouldn't be feasible for him to give them their demands. They would probably want investigations shut down or to intentionally screw them up - Paul Ryan and Benghazi have been mentioned recently. Controlled opposition, sabotage of your own party. Nothing new for McCarthy but too out in the open to not cause major problems for him. He might as well capitulate to the 20 Republicans instead.
So in essence he's kind of damned if you do damned if you don't.
In 2015 AJ had Roger Stone on for like a 2 hour interview and it seemed like 20 mins...Roger said this and I quote it to this DAY - "There has ALWAYS been a deep state, in the old days they wanted America to do better so they could skim more $ off the top. This New Deep State only cares about $ they will sell us out to the highest bidder."
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gop-deal-emerges-thursday-mccarthy-path-speakership
Interesting. Another Anon today theorized that the real sticking point must be the rules committee, since without control of that, we wont have any control over any other committees actions.
Fox News - Deal emerges giving McCarthy path to speakership
Thanks for this valuable information. There's no question Roger Stone has tremendous insight to the workings of all this. It's true in his 50 years in Washington politics Stone has had many rare insights to the inner workings of Beltway politics. From your report, Stone provides greater detail on the 'Why' it is taboo and suicidal to cut a deal with the demo[n]crats in a leadership vote such as this. Earlier, I echoed the same sentiment by saying:
"I believe the precedent has been - it is considered a taboo and suicidal for legislators to cross parties in such a leadership vote. McCarthy would look like a complete whore if this happened. Could it happen? We live in strange days where everything seems to be turned on its head."
Let's acknowledge one thing about Kevin McCarthy. He is an obvious Whore. Recognizing this fact, can any of us live with another Paul Ryan or Nancy Pelosi? Absolutely not. Matt Gaetz says it best:
Added emphasis was given to the world's best constructive straitjacket. If McCarthy remains as a candidate, before he is ever nominated he must be 'straightjacketed', so that we never get another Paul Ryan or a McConnell. In other words, he contractually agrees to all the demands of the 20 patriotic insurgents. Can this happen? That's a question yet to be seen. Our only hope lies with these 20 patriotic insurgents to assure we get a Congress for and by the people.
Insurgent - noun, a member of a section of a political party that revolts against the methods or policies of the party.
It's ok to be a whore when you live in a brothel.
So is Kamala Harris. And so was Lizzy Lape. What do these people have to do with the GOP and the struggle to find real representiive leadership in Congress though?
Wouldn't it be kewl if our ballots were counted as transparently as the votes for Speaker here?
Roger Stone is a brilliant man. He's Machiavellian and knows politics like no one else.
This reminds me of the strategic moves made by (us) Ron Paul people in 2012 (and 2008 but not as much). While we failed, we made them cheat (change the rules of the convention illegally) to stop us.
FUCK THE UNIPARTY.
Many thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.
I can't see 218 Republicans voting for Trump as Speaker. I think there are too many Never Trump RINO's still. It would be epic though.
Thanks for the analysis and links. This is one of the more valuable posts since Tuesday. Have a great weekend free.
AJ is a pig, if his picture had popped up I would Totally ignore this. excellent post! worth every second I spent listening to this, instead of going to the gym. I've never had a problem with Roger Stone, maybe I've been out of the loop but I think everyone has a right to their own opinion and that goes for AJ as well. But I don't have to listen to AJ either.
I thought he was eye patch mccain?
Thanks for your summary, very helpful and informative.
It’s being reported that McCarthy is turning rebels. What now?
Roger Stone is an idiot who uses words as "might" too often. Notice he always says things with qualifiers. And then when his prediction doesn't come true He says "I told you it MIGHT happen". He did this often on the Alex Jones show.