not sure it can't be discussed here. because I've witnessed and been part of a few. it's "not Q" is what you'll hear but there are a plethora of posts that "aren't Q" related depending on what you consider related. questioning the normie narrative in my mind is Q, so I think it should be allowed, but I also agree that this matter and theories around it don't lend themselves to waking up normies who still think man-made global warming is real. once we get the masses to awaken, largely, then we can began to reevaluate reality (aliens, moon landing, flat earth, etc)
We've been lied to about so much so why not keep an open mind. I'd rather believe Genesis than NASA. I'd love it to be true, God would have the last laugh.
Exactly. If you can believe how much these people would hurt children babies and think when it comes to true shape or form of earth, they'd be honorable and tell the truth then you're STILL brainwashed or refused to part w/ what you learnt since birth. You can still enjoy star trek and keep an open mind about what space really is.
I just read a section in KJV. I guess it comes down to the word, "firmament" which, when I looked it up, is defined as "the vault or arch of the sky : heavens." Everything comes down to interpretation (and translations). Like I said, I have no problem with difference of opinions or interpretations.
I strongly suspect I can't talk about hollow earth theory here, or the theory about Martians invading our world, or the theory about aliens from the Pleiades coming down and giving early man high technology.
Not that I would care to talk about any of that because I don't even believe that crap, but by your logic, if I can't talk about that stuff here without getting banned, it only proves it's true.
In my opinion, OP seem to be a really special case.
It's because this a Q forum, not a general conspiracy theory forum. Q has already gone out of their way when they didn't have to in order to say it isn't, and Q has said crazy things too like implying we live in the matrix so it's not "disinfo is necessary because muh optics" either. Just go to conspiracies.win or reddit and stop trying to hijack this forum just because more people use it.
If you have to, then patriots.win has lots of people on it, go bug them.
Q was talking about the entire "earth realm". The 6 continents and 4 oceans you and I are aware of are flat as a pancake. What's above, below and beyond the Antarctic ice ring remains a mystery. When all this is taken in its entirety, it seems almost certain this entire realm is within a sphere-like bubble of sorts.
Thus, Q's answer is true in the larger sense, as everyone will one day agree.
Put simply, Q was talking about a whole lot more than what we've been taught is "all of earth".
Q said one word "no" to the question. Clearly not interested in elaborating at that time. Honestly, it was more disinfo when taken in this context. Q made the minds of probably 80-90% of their followers literally shut down all critical thought on the subject -> "Welp, Q said it so it must be true".
That Q will ultimately be shown to be correct in the greater sens is a small consolation IMHO. For whatever reason, Q wanted their followers to remain ignorant to this centuries old deception. A deception that was created to make humanity believe they were insignificant and random I might add.
As much as I can, how much critical thought have you given it? Do you even know what critical thinking is? I don't know what Ron means but I'll assume that it's some inside joke you assume everyone else gets just like you assume everyone will believe flat earth theory if they would just "critically think" and watch some blurry video of a Nikon camera "showing stars the way they really are"
Ron White - the comedian, aka "Tater Salad". You don't get that with your handle? Relax, that was in good fun. Half the problem we have on this board is everyone has their panties up in a bunch. Especially globe believers who are in a deep state of denial!!!
I've invested thousands of hours into flat earth research. I stood unconvinced of either side for about 2.5 years (~2015 - 2018). But the last 5 years have piled on proof on top of another. Most of those proofs being that the globe position cannot be supported.
What shocked me most was that there there are ZERO scientific proofs that can validate any of the establishment claims. That's right, ZERO. Not the "Cavendish experiment, Michelson-Morley, nor Eratosthenes. All of Einstein's nonsense has been easily destroyed as well. Add to that, there's no proof of a force called "Newtonian gravity" let alone Einstein's more ludicrous "Einstenian gravity" which has been disproven 95% of the time (the other 5% is just bad data). The very idea that space is a vacuum, and yet, there is something in it called "the fabric of space-time" that can somehow be warped is the icing on the cake. It's all the musings of a mad man, promoted by an establishment that wishes us to remain in a deep state of ignorance.
Here's just a short list of the absurdity of the globe
No scientific experiment can prove the earth is in motion - even Einstein (Zero stones) was forced to admit this. Check
The distance calculations to the sun and moon are all based on ASSUMPTIONS, ludicrous ones I might add. Check
Gravity, as a "force of nature" cannot be proven, therefore does not exist as claimed. Check
Speed of Light, another lie, as it can't be measured. Truth being, light has no speed. It is ever-present in varying degrees of visibility to our limited senses
Quantum super-position - Another ludicrous lie with zero proof. Pure fantastical theory. Check
Photons - Another lie. No such things exist and that's why they've never been found. Check
Space as a vacuum - Again, pure theory and unproven. Space is filled with the "Aether", as it must be, the leading theory of the truth-tellers back around the turn of the 20th century. Check
That gas always evenly expands into a vacuum in classical physics, yet when it comes to earth's atmosphere, this law is broken. Check
That every picture and video ever produced by NASA is actually a photoshopped, modified image (never a photograph) or a CJI video, because, in their own words "it has to be". Check
That you can't see anything 93 million miles away. Check
That the moon landing was a painfully obvious fraud. Check
That water always finds its level, aka "sea level". Never has it been found to be "curved". Never has a photo or video been taken of the several-mile water bulge that must exist due to "moon gravity" prediction. Check
And I could go on and on....and on. But at some point, you start wondering, well what exactly is true that the establishment tells us? Anything? For the love of God, surely something they're telling us about space and gravity and yada yada is true. And yet, you'll find that there is nothing beyond things you can easily verify for yourself -- which -- they could obviously not lie about when this is the case.
I've carefully listened to the globe-defenders arguments dwindle and dwindle as the flat earth community shoots them down one by one. At this stage of the game, the globers defense has been reduced to "observational arguments" and "muh gravity" to maintain their positions. And these guys never give an inch. This is how I know they're sadly mistaken. They never admit the flat-earther community shattered their previous arguments. They simply don't address those any longer.
Honestly, I wish I could think of one legitimate globe-believer out there to at least lend this side of the argument some credibility. But sadly, there are none. "Professor Dave" is the biggest laughing-stock out there. He's not a professor, a total leftist nutjob, condescending to a fault, supports childhood hormones and transgender surgery, and invents strawman arguments to make himself appear smart to his zombified followers. This is the best the globe defenders have to offer?
And as to Neil Degrasse Tyson, jab supporter, virus believer, and well paid establishment shill, what else needs to be said? Bill Nye the science guy? I mean, c'mon.
There's this really scary dude that calls himself Amen-Ra or some such, that just gives you the creeps looking at him. He's all talk, no facts.
Now of course there's the 3 bitcoin challenge from Dave Weiss for anybody that can provide one single scientific proof of the globe. While only worth ~$60K right now, it was worth closer to $200K this time last year. And yet still, no takers.
So where does that leave us exactly? Nobody wants $200K? That can't be it and we both know it. The only logical conclusion one can draw is that the establishment has taught us nothing but SCIENTISM our entire lives. It's riddled with deception, half-truths and bald-faced lies.
I had a guy here on GA tell me recently that he's a staunch globe-defender but didn't want to dox himself when I told him to claim the prize. He's convinced that ship gyroscopes prove the earth is a globe. Like if that were the case, the flat-earth community wouldn't have heard that one long ago and there would have never been anything to debate.
But this is just an example of what the globe-defenders arguments have been reduced to. This is just like all the star pattern, precession and observational arguments that have been made these past 10 years. They globe-defenders claim their perspective on these things makes a flat earth impossible. But when the flat earth community shows how these things would work on a flat earth, the globers just say "nuh uh" and plug their ears and go "lalalalalalala".
This is where the {NON-}debate stands today. Globe-defenders won't concede a single thing to the flat earth community, like a bunch of whiney babies. They won't give one inch on any single point. Case in point, the Eratosthenes sticks in ancient Greece experiment. The flat-earth community went out of their way to demonstrate how this experiment works perfectly with a local sun (~3500 miles away). This is what our God-given senses tell us, a local sun with parallel rays. And when this is the case, the Eratosthenes experiment works. But what do the globe-defenders say in response? "Nuh uh - na-na-na-nana - the sun can't be that close because my scientism books say so" and other childish remarks. Not a one of them can just say "well, if the sun really was that close, then yes, you guys are right". Not a one of them can even concede this simple point.
You know what that tells me? Massive cognitive dissonance at work. They have a theoretical model built into their consciousness, and to shatter it would shake the foundations of their make-believe existence. And I do understand, this can be majorly traumatic. So I'm not criticizing them in this regard in the least. I feel badly for them, having been so badly brainwashed. But this explains their childish behavior and unwillingness to "play fair". The main flat-earth guys I listen to don't even want to talk with any of the globe-defenders any longer. They gave it every possible effort these past 5 years. But sadly, the globe-defenders never grew up. They just dug in deeper, without a shred of science to back up their position.
So believe it or not, that's just a brief sketch of what I've researched. I could go on and on for hours. The simple fact is, we can see too far. You don't need me to tell you that or anybody else. You can go get yourself a camera with a high-powered telephoto lens and prove it all to yourself. The alleged radius of the earth can't be what they say it is because of this. Yet another lie uncovered. And not ironically, some globe defenders have conceded this point, still defending the globe, but saying the radius calculation is too small (and therefore the size and diameter of course).
So yeah, I've done a metric shite-ton of research. More than anyone else I personally know. I'm a truther to the core. If someone came forward with irrefutable proof of the globe, I'd change my position in a nano second. But none has been forthcoming in the 8 years I've been researching. The score is like 287 - 0 right now so I'm pretty confident the irrefutable globe proof isn't ever going to be proffered.
Every time I talk with someone about flat-earth here on GA, I always ask, what is it that has you so convinced of the globe? What one thing do you think proves it beyond the shadow of a doubt? Odds are, the flat-earth community has debunked it. But as to all the unfalsifiable theories and models, it should be understood that nobody can debunk or prove false something that has yet to be proven true. It's like arguing over what color unicorn dung is in the fall.
We can speculate on Q's motives until the cows come home. Half this board thinks Q's posts are gospel. Some understand Q was a mixture of truths, lies, half-truths, etc.
The part of earth we are aware of and "allowed" to visit, 6 continents and 4 oceans, is scientifically and demonstrably a horizontal plane. This isn't even arguable today. There isn't one proof of curvature, nor rotation, nor movement of the earth. Let alone all the lies about all the bodies in "outer space".
I've yet to find one lamestream, establishment "fact" about globe earth that is actually true. Everything we were taught to believe about where we are in the grand scheme is factually incorrect. "The bigger the lie, the easier it is to pass off as truth."
I'll let you decide what Q's motive may have been. However, the result was stifling the truth and shutting down the critical thinking of Q followers on this particular topic.
All you have is talking confidently "this has been proved, this has been debunked, etc"
Kinda like global warming freaks who have zero scientific evidence, "actually I have so much evidence that it would take too long to say it, but everyone knows you have zero evidence of the earth being round."
I've been anxiously awaiting just ONE proof of the globe that holds up for over 5 years. You'd think there would be dozens, even hundreds. And yet there are none.
I know you can't offer one up so I'll let you get back to your blind belief in authority. The same thing your pals, the "global warming freaks", are wholly dependent upon.
I can only try so much before I realize you have nothing. Have you ever tried thinking critically about flat earth? I've been more than critical of mainstream theory as well as flat earth.
Actual critical thinking (questioning your own beliefs, and not just the words that mean "I'm smart") says, what is more likely? That stars are insanely large balls of hot gases trillions of miles away and similar to our sun, or that they are divine energy beings and angels that every astronomer and telescope operator is lying about and you have to have a very specific model of Nikon webcam and zoom in on them, you can clearly see that they are balls of aether that look like standby led lights through watery eyes?
Unlike Q, and many other conspiracies. Flat earth is not rooted in critical thinking and logic. It’s illogical explanations, irrational thoughts, and rejecting an absurd amount of evidence that goes against you.
idk, listening to the flat earthers here they would have you think that they are the only ones critically thinking, because they will tell you so. They also don't know how to critically think and only know that saying you think critically makes you appear smarter so that helps
This is likely correct. The 6 continent and 4 oceans we are aware of are perfectly flat. But what's above, below and beyond the Antarctic ice ring remain speculation and mystery.
More likely huge caves underneath the Earth that feel like you are "on the other side of the Earth" or "in the center of the Earth" to whatever explorer discovered them.
Before that.. research why nobody is allowed on Antartica. Not the sample answer from Google or mainstream sites, but really think about it. All countries could be at war w/ one another but they all agree on ONE thing: Keep out of Antartica.
And why are these religious leaders and politicians going to Antartica?
Start by asking those questions and work your way up. Also, check out David Weiss Flat Earth.
Nobody has the right or wrong answers. Only God knows the true shape and form of earth, and maybe it's not as important right now. But it is important to be aware if you're being lied to.
Flat earthers have a valid question and debunk of every answer that is given. It is an interesting concept, but the truth is, if our government didn’t lie to us so much, these kind of theories would not exist. I don’t know if the earth is a perfect globe, but I do know it’s bull spit that we went to the moon. As far as google earth goes, what part of google can be trusted? Goggle is one of the most evil companies on the planet. I do not believe it’s a globe and I also do not believe it’s flat. I do believe that there are powers to be that want us to believe whatever they feed us.
I'm not here to argue flat earth but my boyfriend was banned from posting or commenting because he argued flat earth. Is that what this platform is about? Banning people and ideas we disagree with or don't understand?
No, that's not what this is about. This forum isn't about banning people we disagree with. It is about Q and Q posts and theories about Q posts and how they relate to what is happening outside of the internet.
There's a simple way to prove a globe earth and that would be for NASA to give us just one REAL picture of the earth. Admittedly all they can give us is CGI pictures even with all their satellites and expensive cameras. I wonder why?
I never mentioned Apollo . You did. I simply stated the NASA is incapable of giving us a REAL picture of the Earth which would prove the shape. They admit that their CURRENT images are CGI. But they have satellites with cameras?
I know you didn't mention Apollo, artardicus. You said something stupid like "every picture of Earth is CGI" completely ignoring the film ones of the planet Earth that NASA took when NASA sent humans on NASA Apollo missions and NASA gave the pictures to the entire global public.
I know the argument too when I bring up the live satellite feeds of Earth that anyone with internet access can watch. I've seen them enough, "Digital images = images taken by a computer = computer generated image haha I can never be wrong" followed by "film photographs from space are all photoshopped because I said so hahaha I can never be wrong." That's literally the only direction you can go with unless you are gonna try to convince me that you actually didn't know that the Apollo missions took photographs of Earth.
If I'm such a wacko conspiracy theorist you would laugh at me and move on but you seem defensive and angry. You might want to question why that is. My argument stands. Too bad you're so resistive to the truth. Either way I'm not going down the rabbit hole with you and your deflection.
I'm sorry, I know there is a rule against "name calling", you flat earth people are fucking retards.
All you flat earth people, go pool your money, buy a plane, pay a pilot and check out how "fly overable" the south pole is.
Or better yet, rent a boat, go deep in the southern hemisphere and head straight west for a while, then have your idiotic flat earth idea come crumbling apart when a straight line puts you in the exact spot you departed from.
It's an octagon and we've been between rounds for thousands of years. Soon the cosmic bell will ring and once again the gods will engage in combat all over the world causing mass destruction for eons. Prove me wrong!
not sure it can't be discussed here. because I've witnessed and been part of a few. it's "not Q" is what you'll hear but there are a plethora of posts that "aren't Q" related depending on what you consider related. questioning the normie narrative in my mind is Q, so I think it should be allowed, but I also agree that this matter and theories around it don't lend themselves to waking up normies who still think man-made global warming is real. once we get the masses to awaken, largely, then we can began to reevaluate reality (aliens, moon landing, flat earth, etc)
It has nothing to do with Q and Q specifically said it wasn't true.
There are plenty of other places to discuss it go there
We've been lied to about so much so why not keep an open mind. I'd rather believe Genesis than NASA. I'd love it to be true, God would have the last laugh.
Exactly. If you can believe how much these people would hurt children babies and think when it comes to true shape or form of earth, they'd be honorable and tell the truth then you're STILL brainwashed or refused to part w/ what you learnt since birth. You can still enjoy star trek and keep an open mind about what space really is.
I've never heard that it is in Genesis so I looked this up and found this.. https://answersingenesis.org/astronomy/earth/falling-flat-earth/
Not telling you what to believe. Everyone can believe what they want to. It doesn't affect me.
thanks but I'll stick with the KJV.
I just read a section in KJV. I guess it comes down to the word, "firmament" which, when I looked it up, is defined as "the vault or arch of the sky : heavens." Everything comes down to interpretation (and translations). Like I said, I have no problem with difference of opinions or interpretations.
Do you think God created the world in 1950? Why does NASA get credit for what the Greeks and the Church and the sailors already agreed on?
Is that post title supposed to pass for logic?
I strongly suspect I can't talk about hollow earth theory here, or the theory about Martians invading our world, or the theory about aliens from the Pleiades coming down and giving early man high technology.
Not that I would care to talk about any of that because I don't even believe that crap, but by your logic, if I can't talk about that stuff here without getting banned, it only proves it's true.
In my opinion, OP seem to be a really special case.
It's because this a Q forum, not a general conspiracy theory forum. Q has already gone out of their way when they didn't have to in order to say it isn't, and Q has said crazy things too like implying we live in the matrix so it's not "disinfo is necessary because muh optics" either. Just go to conspiracies.win or reddit and stop trying to hijack this forum just because more people use it.
If you have to, then patriots.win has lots of people on it, go bug them.
Q was talking about the entire "earth realm". The 6 continents and 4 oceans you and I are aware of are flat as a pancake. What's above, below and beyond the Antarctic ice ring remains a mystery. When all this is taken in its entirety, it seems almost certain this entire realm is within a sphere-like bubble of sorts.
Thus, Q's answer is true in the larger sense, as everyone will one day agree.
Put simply, Q was talking about a whole lot more than what we've been taught is "all of earth".
Maybe, but then why wouldn't they say it like how they said the world is like the matrix? Hint at it then leave it at that, not outright deny it.
Q said one word "no" to the question. Clearly not interested in elaborating at that time. Honestly, it was more disinfo when taken in this context. Q made the minds of probably 80-90% of their followers literally shut down all critical thought on the subject -> "Welp, Q said it so it must be true".
That Q will ultimately be shown to be correct in the greater sens is a small consolation IMHO. For whatever reason, Q wanted their followers to remain ignorant to this centuries old deception. A deception that was created to make humanity believe they were insignificant and random I might add.
Then please, enlighten us on what you know to be true that Q was too scared to touch on.
What critical thought needs to be given to flat earth that hasn't already been given more than it deserves?
What critical thought have you given to flat earth... Ron? :)
As much as I can, how much critical thought have you given it? Do you even know what critical thinking is? I don't know what Ron means but I'll assume that it's some inside joke you assume everyone else gets just like you assume everyone will believe flat earth theory if they would just "critically think" and watch some blurry video of a Nikon camera "showing stars the way they really are"
Ron White - the comedian, aka "Tater Salad". You don't get that with your handle? Relax, that was in good fun. Half the problem we have on this board is everyone has their panties up in a bunch. Especially globe believers who are in a deep state of denial!!!
I've invested thousands of hours into flat earth research. I stood unconvinced of either side for about 2.5 years (~2015 - 2018). But the last 5 years have piled on proof on top of another. Most of those proofs being that the globe position cannot be supported.
What shocked me most was that there there are ZERO scientific proofs that can validate any of the establishment claims. That's right, ZERO. Not the "Cavendish experiment, Michelson-Morley, nor Eratosthenes. All of Einstein's nonsense has been easily destroyed as well. Add to that, there's no proof of a force called "Newtonian gravity" let alone Einstein's more ludicrous "Einstenian gravity" which has been disproven 95% of the time (the other 5% is just bad data). The very idea that space is a vacuum, and yet, there is something in it called "the fabric of space-time" that can somehow be warped is the icing on the cake. It's all the musings of a mad man, promoted by an establishment that wishes us to remain in a deep state of ignorance.
Here's just a short list of the absurdity of the globe
No scientific experiment can prove the earth is in motion - even Einstein (Zero stones) was forced to admit this. Check
The distance calculations to the sun and moon are all based on ASSUMPTIONS, ludicrous ones I might add. Check
Gravity, as a "force of nature" cannot be proven, therefore does not exist as claimed. Check
Speed of Light, another lie, as it can't be measured. Truth being, light has no speed. It is ever-present in varying degrees of visibility to our limited senses
Quantum super-position - Another ludicrous lie with zero proof. Pure fantastical theory. Check
Photons - Another lie. No such things exist and that's why they've never been found. Check
Space as a vacuum - Again, pure theory and unproven. Space is filled with the "Aether", as it must be, the leading theory of the truth-tellers back around the turn of the 20th century. Check
That gas always evenly expands into a vacuum in classical physics, yet when it comes to earth's atmosphere, this law is broken. Check
That every picture and video ever produced by NASA is actually a photoshopped, modified image (never a photograph) or a CJI video, because, in their own words "it has to be". Check
That you can't see anything 93 million miles away. Check
That the moon landing was a painfully obvious fraud. Check
That water always finds its level, aka "sea level". Never has it been found to be "curved". Never has a photo or video been taken of the several-mile water bulge that must exist due to "moon gravity" prediction. Check
And I could go on and on....and on. But at some point, you start wondering, well what exactly is true that the establishment tells us? Anything? For the love of God, surely something they're telling us about space and gravity and yada yada is true. And yet, you'll find that there is nothing beyond things you can easily verify for yourself -- which -- they could obviously not lie about when this is the case.
I've carefully listened to the globe-defenders arguments dwindle and dwindle as the flat earth community shoots them down one by one. At this stage of the game, the globers defense has been reduced to "observational arguments" and "muh gravity" to maintain their positions. And these guys never give an inch. This is how I know they're sadly mistaken. They never admit the flat-earther community shattered their previous arguments. They simply don't address those any longer.
Honestly, I wish I could think of one legitimate globe-believer out there to at least lend this side of the argument some credibility. But sadly, there are none. "Professor Dave" is the biggest laughing-stock out there. He's not a professor, a total leftist nutjob, condescending to a fault, supports childhood hormones and transgender surgery, and invents strawman arguments to make himself appear smart to his zombified followers. This is the best the globe defenders have to offer?
And as to Neil Degrasse Tyson, jab supporter, virus believer, and well paid establishment shill, what else needs to be said? Bill Nye the science guy? I mean, c'mon.
There's this really scary dude that calls himself Amen-Ra or some such, that just gives you the creeps looking at him. He's all talk, no facts.
Now of course there's the 3 bitcoin challenge from Dave Weiss for anybody that can provide one single scientific proof of the globe. While only worth ~$60K right now, it was worth closer to $200K this time last year. And yet still, no takers.
So where does that leave us exactly? Nobody wants $200K? That can't be it and we both know it. The only logical conclusion one can draw is that the establishment has taught us nothing but SCIENTISM our entire lives. It's riddled with deception, half-truths and bald-faced lies.
I had a guy here on GA tell me recently that he's a staunch globe-defender but didn't want to dox himself when I told him to claim the prize. He's convinced that ship gyroscopes prove the earth is a globe. Like if that were the case, the flat-earth community wouldn't have heard that one long ago and there would have never been anything to debate.
But this is just an example of what the globe-defenders arguments have been reduced to. This is just like all the star pattern, precession and observational arguments that have been made these past 10 years. They globe-defenders claim their perspective on these things makes a flat earth impossible. But when the flat earth community shows how these things would work on a flat earth, the globers just say "nuh uh" and plug their ears and go "lalalalalalala".
This is where the {NON-}debate stands today. Globe-defenders won't concede a single thing to the flat earth community, like a bunch of whiney babies. They won't give one inch on any single point. Case in point, the Eratosthenes sticks in ancient Greece experiment. The flat-earth community went out of their way to demonstrate how this experiment works perfectly with a local sun (~3500 miles away). This is what our God-given senses tell us, a local sun with parallel rays. And when this is the case, the Eratosthenes experiment works. But what do the globe-defenders say in response? "Nuh uh - na-na-na-nana - the sun can't be that close because my scientism books say so" and other childish remarks. Not a one of them can just say "well, if the sun really was that close, then yes, you guys are right". Not a one of them can even concede this simple point.
You know what that tells me? Massive cognitive dissonance at work. They have a theoretical model built into their consciousness, and to shatter it would shake the foundations of their make-believe existence. And I do understand, this can be majorly traumatic. So I'm not criticizing them in this regard in the least. I feel badly for them, having been so badly brainwashed. But this explains their childish behavior and unwillingness to "play fair". The main flat-earth guys I listen to don't even want to talk with any of the globe-defenders any longer. They gave it every possible effort these past 5 years. But sadly, the globe-defenders never grew up. They just dug in deeper, without a shred of science to back up their position.
So believe it or not, that's just a brief sketch of what I've researched. I could go on and on for hours. The simple fact is, we can see too far. You don't need me to tell you that or anybody else. You can go get yourself a camera with a high-powered telephoto lens and prove it all to yourself. The alleged radius of the earth can't be what they say it is because of this. Yet another lie uncovered. And not ironically, some globe defenders have conceded this point, still defending the globe, but saying the radius calculation is too small (and therefore the size and diameter of course).
So yeah, I've done a metric shite-ton of research. More than anyone else I personally know. I'm a truther to the core. If someone came forward with irrefutable proof of the globe, I'd change my position in a nano second. But none has been forthcoming in the 8 years I've been researching. The score is like 287 - 0 right now so I'm pretty confident the irrefutable globe proof isn't ever going to be proffered.
Every time I talk with someone about flat-earth here on GA, I always ask, what is it that has you so convinced of the globe? What one thing do you think proves it beyond the shadow of a doubt? Odds are, the flat-earth community has debunked it. But as to all the unfalsifiable theories and models, it should be understood that nobody can debunk or prove false something that has yet to be proven true. It's like arguing over what color unicorn dung is in the fall.
And oh yeah, you should watch the Ron White "Tater Salad" bit. It's a great story!!! -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neUaSTSKFZc
We can speculate on Q's motives until the cows come home. Half this board thinks Q's posts are gospel. Some understand Q was a mixture of truths, lies, half-truths, etc.
The part of earth we are aware of and "allowed" to visit, 6 continents and 4 oceans, is scientifically and demonstrably a horizontal plane. This isn't even arguable today. There isn't one proof of curvature, nor rotation, nor movement of the earth. Let alone all the lies about all the bodies in "outer space".
I've yet to find one lamestream, establishment "fact" about globe earth that is actually true. Everything we were taught to believe about where we are in the grand scheme is factually incorrect. "The bigger the lie, the easier it is to pass off as truth."
I'll let you decide what Q's motive may have been. However, the result was stifling the truth and shutting down the critical thinking of Q followers on this particular topic.
All you have is talking confidently "this has been proved, this has been debunked, etc"
Kinda like global warming freaks who have zero scientific evidence, "actually I have so much evidence that it would take too long to say it, but everyone knows you have zero evidence of the earth being round."
I've been anxiously awaiting just ONE proof of the globe that holds up for over 5 years. You'd think there would be dozens, even hundreds. And yet there are none.
I know you can't offer one up so I'll let you get back to your blind belief in authority. The same thing your pals, the "global warming freaks", are wholly dependent upon.
Exactly, and when you do research and critical thinking into flat earth it stops being a conspiracy theory and just becomes dumb.
I can only try so much before I realize you have nothing. Have you ever tried thinking critically about flat earth? I've been more than critical of mainstream theory as well as flat earth.
Actual critical thinking (questioning your own beliefs, and not just the words that mean "I'm smart") says, what is more likely? That stars are insanely large balls of hot gases trillions of miles away and similar to our sun, or that they are divine energy beings and angels that every astronomer and telescope operator is lying about and you have to have a very specific model of Nikon webcam and zoom in on them, you can clearly see that they are balls of aether that look like standby led lights through watery eyes?
Feels flat to me
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Unlike Q, and many other conspiracies. Flat earth is not rooted in critical thinking and logic. It’s illogical explanations, irrational thoughts, and rejecting an absurd amount of evidence that goes against you.
idk, listening to the flat earthers here they would have you think that they are the only ones critically thinking, because they will tell you so. They also don't know how to critically think and only know that saying you think critically makes you appear smarter so that helps
I have flown at 38,000 ft. and you can SEE that the Earth is not flat. The view of known places on GE is real and there is no edge of Earth.
did you look through the fish eye lens windows on the plane?
There are no edges because there are more land beyond the ice wall called Antartica.
fish eyed flat piece of plexiglass?
airplane windows are curved
So you can see the same buildings while standing on the roof of your house that you would see on the edge of the horizon in an airplane at 30,000 ft?
Bibloop: incoherent screeching
I honestly expected him to just reply "Yes." but also expected an essay about "perspective"
exactly. "I see something different that what you see" is not a valid argument.
if the earth is flat... what's on the other side? anyone brave enough to lean over the edge and see what's under us??
Not allowed to go anywhere near - wonder why? What if Antarctica is like the wall in the Truman Show? Its possible.
I'd say probable
One person suggested we're not on a sphere but in a sphere.
say "NO" to drugs, folks....
This is likely correct. The 6 continent and 4 oceans we are aware of are perfectly flat. But what's above, below and beyond the Antarctic ice ring remain speculation and mystery.
Hollow Earth is better theory. A planet with a 400 km shell is physically possible but unlikely according to secular planetology.
More likely huge caves underneath the Earth that feel like you are "on the other side of the Earth" or "in the center of the Earth" to whatever explorer discovered them.
I heard that before..Like a pond..we're in a pond.
Probably the underworld.... Now the Aeneid as a historical work is finally making more sense.
I think you'd see the underneath side of the Great Turtle.
You mean the top of the Greater Turtle's shell?
Before that.. research why nobody is allowed on Antartica. Not the sample answer from Google or mainstream sites, but really think about it. All countries could be at war w/ one another but they all agree on ONE thing: Keep out of Antartica.
And why are these religious leaders and politicians going to Antartica?
Start by asking those questions and work your way up. Also, check out David Weiss Flat Earth.
Nobody has the right or wrong answers. Only God knows the true shape and form of earth, and maybe it's not as important right now. But it is important to be aware if you're being lied to.
Have you seen Google Earth?
You mean CGI Google Earth ? NASA images are all CGI as well. They admitted it.
Flat earthers have a valid question and debunk of every answer that is given. It is an interesting concept, but the truth is, if our government didn’t lie to us so much, these kind of theories would not exist. I don’t know if the earth is a perfect globe, but I do know it’s bull spit that we went to the moon. As far as google earth goes, what part of google can be trusted? Goggle is one of the most evil companies on the planet. I do not believe it’s a globe and I also do not believe it’s flat. I do believe that there are powers to be that want us to believe whatever they feed us.
I have yet to see them debunk anything, they just deflect accuse people of hating God.
That was my point. They have an answer for everything.
Yes, trust Google on everything.
Yep. Censorship = "our position can't be supported".
Other people don't believe it = "they just aren't critical thinking enough"
I'm not here to argue flat earth but my boyfriend was banned from posting or commenting because he argued flat earth. Is that what this platform is about? Banning people and ideas we disagree with or don't understand?
No, that's not what this is about. This forum isn't about banning people we disagree with. It is about Q and Q posts and theories about Q posts and how they relate to what is happening outside of the internet.
Again this stupid shit? I thought the earth is hollow. /s
What with the flat earth posts lately? We over the target again? Lol go eat balls, fedbois!
Something about that Trump Truth got them scared.
The earth is flat.
the surface that we live on is flat.
There's a simple way to prove a globe earth and that would be for NASA to give us just one REAL picture of the earth. Admittedly all they can give us is CGI pictures even with all their satellites and expensive cameras. I wonder why?
I don't think the Apollo missions used CGI on their film cameras. But let me guess, those are conveniently fake so you can never be wrong?
I never mentioned Apollo . You did. I simply stated the NASA is incapable of giving us a REAL picture of the Earth which would prove the shape. They admit that their CURRENT images are CGI. But they have satellites with cameras?
I know you didn't mention Apollo, artardicus. You said something stupid like "every picture of Earth is CGI" completely ignoring the film ones of the planet Earth that NASA took when NASA sent humans on NASA Apollo missions and NASA gave the pictures to the entire global public.
I know the argument too when I bring up the live satellite feeds of Earth that anyone with internet access can watch. I've seen them enough, "Digital images = images taken by a computer = computer generated image haha I can never be wrong" followed by "film photographs from space are all photoshopped because I said so hahaha I can never be wrong." That's literally the only direction you can go with unless you are gonna try to convince me that you actually didn't know that the Apollo missions took photographs of Earth.
If I'm such a wacko conspiracy theorist you would laugh at me and move on but you seem defensive and angry. You might want to question why that is. My argument stands. Too bad you're so resistive to the truth. Either way I'm not going down the rabbit hole with you and your deflection.
you seem defensive and angry
So what do you have to say about the Apollo photographs of the Earth? Those are pictures of the globe.
because NASA doesnt go anywhere
Damn right!
How is this brought up again?
I'm sorry, I know there is a rule against "name calling", you flat earth people are fucking retards.
All you flat earth people, go pool your money, buy a plane, pay a pilot and check out how "fly overable" the south pole is.
Or better yet, rent a boat, go deep in the southern hemisphere and head straight west for a while, then have your idiotic flat earth idea come crumbling apart when a straight line puts you in the exact spot you departed from.
Morons.
It's an octagon and we've been between rounds for thousands of years. Soon the cosmic bell will ring and once again the gods will engage in combat all over the world causing mass destruction for eons. Prove me wrong!
Ima block you therefore you are correct.
Thanks for sharing fren.