No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.
-Article I, Section 9, Paragraph 8 of CfusA (1788)
By virtue of citizenship in a country you are already assumed to have loyalty to it. So regular citizens can commit treason even if they never performed the pledge of allegiance or swore an oath of office. Whether or not the people in office signed an oath has nothing to do with whether or not their actions have been treasonous so this whole topic is a red herring. We look dumber for spending time on it
Yeah. Good luck claiming you never actually took your oath of office to get out of treason charges. If the proof is there, the American public will see to your execution no matter what some lawyer tries to claim as a technicality, or what some judge makes a fool of himself by claiming to uphold it.
Public officials are easier targets due to the oaths. They are trying to make themselves less of a target and assuming that no judge is going to remove them for being "ineligible". Actually, it is a bit of a gamble as any U.S. citizen can file for a Writ of Mandamus for $505 in Federal Circuit Court requesting a court order to instruct any Federal or State official to resign or be arrested for contempt.
Clearly they are playing games with the law here. I agree that any U.S. citizen SHOULD BE prosecutable for treason if they took money from the CCP. Period. But this is unlikely to play out this way in Civil or Criminal Court as Dems, RINOs, and their lawyers have spent 40 plus years fashioning all of these escape hatches for their blatant criminality.
Well having a written sworn oath on file doesnt make you any more or less prosecutable. If they are going to be arrested for treason or booted from office it'll be for what they did, not over a paperwork technicality
Technically, any Constitutional sheriff with his/her deputies may arrest/remove/replace all violators of oaths or those ineligible to serve, but illegally holding office. Also, any citizen can file claims against public official surety bonds to make them ineligible for office. And then maybe notify sheriff for enforcement.
Problem is sheriffs are corrupt as well, so we may need to replace them first.
It is a pre-meditated attempt to avoid criminal charges of treason under USC 18. If one does not have an oath, then one cannot violate it. Also, it allows loophole in "intent" defense which is most common successful defense in criminal trials to break the "beyond a reasonable doubt" standard. Clearly Dem lawyers instructed them to do this as they have pre-gamed their own legal Defense of their actions, and they are likely assuming sympathetic judges the Dem Party has already purchased and put in place.
You are correct that none of this will matter in a UCMJ jurisdiction, and this is yet another piece of evidence that the military will need to step in and likely already has jurisdiction since we are "in a state of war".
The real question (which we know the answer to already) is why wasn't this being done already? How can you take an oath to protect and serve something you don't understand, much less value?
This is not unreasonable. My dad used to work at the Palo Verde nuclear power plant in Arizona. He says even the toilet scrubbers there are expected to answer pop quizzes on nuclear issues.
Just like if someone is to work as a nurse, doctor, medical technician, one should at least know the basic of medical terminologies. You don't want someone working there who doesn't even know what GI Tract or Hepatitis, right?
No dual citizenship fuckheads either.
That's huge! A person with a dual citizenship has split loyalties. They have no place in our politics or in our military!
Of course. No one can serve two masters Luke 16:13
Absolutely!
Has the Congress passed secret authorization to permit dual citizenship?
What is the Emoluments Clause? https://www.britannica.com/story/what-is-the-emoluments-clause
-Article I, Section 9, Paragraph 8 of CfusA (1788)
Just think how many "knights" there are currently in u.s. governmental positions. The list is very very long
I am sure.
Oh. I did not know this (of course not, I am brain dead). Damn, they should all be fired by now.
That's right. Whoever heard of working for a country while having a back-door opened to another country. Yeah. Make damn sense.
But it's a special country. "Our closest ally". Chosen.
Also biblical prophecy or something.
Oh yeah. I understand what you mean. Save that country for last.
Are they all precious precious gems?
Can't wait until all my evangelical friends have their minds blown over it too.
I have been struggled over this for a while now. Someone here early on, when I first arrived, said something to me and I argued. Damn.
That person said, "Keep on worship at the altar of the precious gems."
I remember.
Guarantee you they’d make an exception for a certain country.
Hopefully background checks for every single one including politicians.
Should be a standard, but many of them were installed.
They do background checks on all employees, but probably not for politicians.
The worst org in gov does the background checks...
Yeah, it would give the FBI even more veto power over politicians than they and the CIA already have.
Sounds even better fren!
That should be default also. Amen.
Apparently Biden admin officials refused to sign properly executed Oaths of Office in attempt to avoid TREASON charges. Currently, zero properly executed written Oaths of Office on file in violation of Constitution and statutes. https://rumble.com/v2igsu0-breaking-smoking-gun-proof-of-bidens-treason-todd-callender.html
This is all a nonstarter. Treason does not need a signed oath to not commit treason to be treason.
Yeah, pretty sure the Rosenberg's didn't take any oath.
By virtue of citizenship in a country you are already assumed to have loyalty to it. So regular citizens can commit treason even if they never performed the pledge of allegiance or swore an oath of office. Whether or not the people in office signed an oath has nothing to do with whether or not their actions have been treasonous so this whole topic is a red herring. We look dumber for spending time on it
Yeah. Good luck claiming you never actually took your oath of office to get out of treason charges. If the proof is there, the American public will see to your execution no matter what some lawyer tries to claim as a technicality, or what some judge makes a fool of himself by claiming to uphold it.
Public officials are easier targets due to the oaths. They are trying to make themselves less of a target and assuming that no judge is going to remove them for being "ineligible". Actually, it is a bit of a gamble as any U.S. citizen can file for a Writ of Mandamus for $505 in Federal Circuit Court requesting a court order to instruct any Federal or State official to resign or be arrested for contempt.
Clearly they are playing games with the law here. I agree that any U.S. citizen SHOULD BE prosecutable for treason if they took money from the CCP. Period. But this is unlikely to play out this way in Civil or Criminal Court as Dems, RINOs, and their lawyers have spent 40 plus years fashioning all of these escape hatches for their blatant criminality.
Well having a written sworn oath on file doesnt make you any more or less prosecutable. If they are going to be arrested for treason or booted from office it'll be for what they did, not over a paperwork technicality
Technically, any Constitutional sheriff with his/her deputies may arrest/remove/replace all violators of oaths or those ineligible to serve, but illegally holding office. Also, any citizen can file claims against public official surety bonds to make them ineligible for office. And then maybe notify sheriff for enforcement.
Problem is sheriffs are corrupt as well, so we may need to replace them first.
It is a pre-meditated attempt to avoid criminal charges of treason under USC 18. If one does not have an oath, then one cannot violate it. Also, it allows loophole in "intent" defense which is most common successful defense in criminal trials to break the "beyond a reasonable doubt" standard. Clearly Dem lawyers instructed them to do this as they have pre-gamed their own legal Defense of their actions, and they are likely assuming sympathetic judges the Dem Party has already purchased and put in place.
You are correct that none of this will matter in a UCMJ jurisdiction, and this is yet another piece of evidence that the military will need to step in and likely already has jurisdiction since we are "in a state of war".
Michael Steele and his RINO compatriots live in a reality where the public employee unions are feared, but the will of the people is not.
Amazing. We paid them.
Michael Steele is a RINO. A former lieutenant governor of Maryland and heavily involved with RNC.
Oh yeah. I am sure he is.
The real question (which we know the answer to already) is why wasn't this being done already? How can you take an oath to protect and serve something you don't understand, much less value?
We know. Of course.
True. Oath of office need to be there.
None will pass I afraid or at least 70%.
This is not unreasonable. My dad used to work at the Palo Verde nuclear power plant in Arizona. He says even the toilet scrubbers there are expected to answer pop quizzes on nuclear issues.
Just like if someone is to work as a nurse, doctor, medical technician, one should at least know the basic of medical terminologies. You don't want someone working there who doesn't even know what GI Tract or Hepatitis, right?
Make sense to me.
If true, this will be a huge improvement.
I would think so. Think there is a video of him saying that.
Papi Trump delivers!
Didn't anyone pickup on the fact he was making fun of Trump?
Of course I did. I saw that.
Damn people can call Trump whatever, he will be the longest sitting president as far as I am concerned. Guy is still in charge right now.
The girl I work with is from Russia. She moved here in 2018. She became a citizen.
She knows more about our constitution then these nitwits,
Unfortunately, school don't teach important things like that any more even back in the 90. I do not remember any of it.
Sad case in history. I think we need to DEFINITELY reform school system.
Thank you. I like your idea. You should work for HR once we clean up this mess.
Howls.
Should be the same for all voters and Electors.
Not sure I can say they will be able to required for voters. Electors definitely.
lol... that would leave us with empty halls and buildings.....
Oh yes. We as patriots can go in and work then.
In before "That's racist!"
Howls. Yes. that too.
Do that for voting, too!
I'll take paper ballot and photo id for now.