...They genuinely thought they were each controlled by different factions that had no causal relationship. Until Q. Now they realize they're all connected in some way by the same scheme. The pawns that sold their souls never realized this was the caveat. They believed it was all totally under control forever (and it is) - but controlled by true evil that has no loyalty to man. The families will turn them in (by design), and that's what has the others pissing their pants. They can feel that they're being used to bring Trump back into the spotlight via CNN townhalls, news stories and Qanon FBI releases ... etc. And they can't do anything about it accept do what they're told... just like when they were forced to bash Trump ... now they're being forced to bring him into the open looking cleaner - and they won't stop it. They can't. They're more afraid of their allies than their foes. Cartel-like shit..
It is what it is.
The evil doesn't go away in this world .. until Jesus banishes it. And even then - it comes back a 1000 years later to take our kin out. And, I assume, we start over again somewhere else.
It would be cool is Christ was setting the world up for his 1000 year reign. I would love to live a 1000 years of peace on this earth under Christ's rule. I love God's creation, I love this planet, I love the woods and homestead I live on. I would love to have a 1000 years of peace on my homestead, with my family on this earth.
Edit: I know the rapture and great tribulation has to happen first. The world we live in is the world going into complete chaos, preparing for the anti Christ. But what happens after that 7 year period is over? The millennial kingdom. I can't help but thing this is the time. Christ is setting up the world, to bring the end, and then the millennial kingdom. And yes, Satan will be freed again after that 1000 years is up and then we go to new heaven and new earth. It's in the bible. I've read it many times
Beware of modern interpretation of the end times. The seminaries have been corrupted. The following is a brief synopsis of what our reforming Fathers believed 500 years ago as the used scripture to interpret scripture as it should be.
The world will become very bad. Evil will rule. The vaccination passport/pass was a trial Balloon to see how far they can push things. Now they know they need to step things up. These times will be worse than at any other point in history. We wont be able to buy or sell without the "mark". It will be easy to fall for the temptation when our children are hungry. Stay strong and have faith!! for the sake of the believers, Jesus cuts this time short.
Jesus comes back the 2nd time and the believers will meet him in the sky as the dead in Christ are risen with their heavenly bodies. (The dead have been asleep until this point, not in heaven. That is illogical. Would God, at the time of death bring us to him and then on a certain day send us back to the grave to be raised?) He takes us all back to heaven where he told us we would go. (He's prepared a place for us in his father's house)
We will remain in heaven for 1000 Years (a 1000 years is like a day on earth) during this time all who did not believe in Jesus when he comes back we're killed by his light and power. All who are left is Satan and his fallen angels. (This is how they are locked in prison for 1000 years) there is no one left to tempt and no one left to destroy. It is an abyss of punishment for them. At the end of 1000 years, Jesus comes back to earth along with all of us as he transports the entire city of New Jerusalem down to earth. At this time all the remaining dead are raised. They see the errors of their ways. Satan builds an army of them all to wage war against Jesus. They are stopped by his overwhelming power. They are forced by logic to bow to Him. (Every knee shall bow) They are judged and executed each according to their life. Some are burned up instantly with no suffering while others have much more anguish and pain. In the end all who did not believe on The Son Of God perish. There is no Hell. It's not biblical. Satan. And his demons are destroyed at this time as well. Jesus destroyes the entire Earth with fire and rebuilds it again. This time without the agony of sin that even our planet today suffers from. We are truly free now. We can live both on the new earth and in Heaven. We can now live with pure hearts and lives before the almighty God and His Beloved only Son.
This is what believers understood for hundreds of years. Satan has corrupted our churches. This is only one example, I could go on.
Eh there are some pretty literal references to "the lake of fire". And "the smoke of their torment goes up for ever". So unless you want to throw those verses out entirely i would say conventional belief in hell is not unfounded
The torment goes on forever? Or the smoke from it goes on forever. There is a difference. Our God is a merciful God. He does not want that any should perish. He demands justice and justice will be served. It is not his personality to allow eternal punishment- even for Satan.
Well i get that you could see it that way but it could be interpreted either way
Scripture never contradicts itself. If it does, there has to be another interpretation backed up somewhere else in scripture. Remember the church as a whole has been corrupted from their doctrine, structure to the pulpit. For instance, find any reference in scripture to God being a 3 part God or "Trinity" these nothing. It's the Father and his only begotten son. The spirit is that of Jesus. Why was the trinity introduced? To eliminate the power and authority of Jesus by introducing an entirely new God. One that Paul or the deciples never acknowledged. Spiritual battles have been at play a very long time. The deception goes deeper than we realize. To the point of having the entire church worship a god that does not exist. This type of deception is Satan's specialty, we never know we're being deceived until it's too late.
There are a few other events that need to occur before the Millennial Kingdom of Christ:
1) First, the 7yr Tribulation needs to occur. The Time of Jacob's Trouble.
The characteristics of the tribulation are described in various parts of the Bible. Here are some key characteristics:
Great distress and suffering: The tribulation will be a time of unparalleled suffering and distress. It will be a time of war, famine, and natural disasters on a scale that has never been seen before (Matthew 24:21; Revelation 6:1-8).
Persecution of Christians: During the tribulation, Christians will be persecuted and put to death for their faith (Revelation 20:4).
Rise of the Antichrist: The Antichrist will emerge as a charismatic and powerful leader who will deceive many people and lead them away from God - the great “apostasy” or great “rebellion” (2 Thessalonians 2:3-4).
Increase in wickedness: The tribulation will be a time of great wickedness, with people turning away from God and embracing sin (Matthew 24:12).
Deception and false prophets: There will be many false prophets and deceivers who will try to lead people astray (Matthew 24:11).
Signs and wonders: The Antichrist and his followers will perform signs and wonders that will deceive many people (2 Thessalonians 2:9; Revelation 13:13-14).
Judgment: The tribulation will be a time of judgment, with God pouring out His wrath on the world (Revelation 16).
Other events that occur during the Tribulation include:
The sealing of 144,000 Jewish believers (Revelation 7:1-8)
The 4 Horsemen
The preaching of the Gospel by two witnesses (Revelation 11:3-13)
The judgments of the seven seals, seven trumpets, and seven bowls (Revelation 6-16)
The rise of Babylon the Great, a false religious system that will deceive many (Revelation 17-18)
The Battle of Armageddon, in which the forces of the Antichrist will gather against Israel, only to be defeated by the returning Jesus Christ (Revelation 19:11-21)
The binding of Satan and the reign of Christ on earth for 1,000 years starts (Revelation 20:1-6)
2) The 3rd Temple needs to be erected either before or during the Tribulation so the Antichrists can exalt himself in it at the middle point of the Tribulation, declaring himself to be God. (Edit: This Temple is ready to go, by the way.)
3) Pre-Trib Rapture or Mid-Trib Rapture or Post-Trib Rapture needs to occur. If it's Post-Trib, then the Rapture happens at the same time of Christs return to Earth on the Mount of Olives to destroy the armies of the World who have mounted up against Israel.
Here is a simple list of End Time events in their respective order:
The end of the Age of Grace (we are here)
Rapture of the Church (could happen before [Pre-Trib] during [Mid-Trib] or after [Post-Trib] the Tribulation)
7-year Tribulation period (Rise of the Anti-Christ)
Second Coming of Christ (Defeat of Anti-Christ)
Binding of Satan (for 1000 years)
Millennial Reign of Christ (1000 years)
Release of Satan and Final Battle (Gog and Magog)
Great White Throne Judgment (Unbelievers judged and cast into the Lake of Fire with Satan for Eternity)
New Heaven and New Earth (Eternity)
Worship the “image of the beast”. AI & Brain chips.
Wise insight.
Rapture hasn't happened yet
Rapture is lousy doctrine based on the dreams of some wild eyed scottish chick. There is 0 evidence the apostles believed in a "rapture" event as talked about in the The Left Behind series and believed in by most evangelical types
You are incorrect, my friend.
There is a Rapture. The question is does it happen before, during or after the Tribulation. If it happens after the Tribulation, then it occurs at the same time as Christ's Return.
If one denys a Rapture of any sort, then one must deal with this verse:
~ 1 Corinthians 15:51
See below comments...
Well that's why I specified "as in the Left Behind" series by tim lahaye and jerry b jenkins. Great fiction but not very scriptural
So you do see evidence the Apostles believed in a Rapture event, just not like the one portrayed in that popular film?
So that must mean you dont think it's a "lousy doctrine based on the dreams of some wild eyed Scottish chick?"
A wild eyed Irish Bishop more like it.
No, just the event as portrayed in the Left Behind series
Agreed
Define rapture.
Sure...
In this passage the phrase "caught up" is translated from the Greek word "ἁρπαγησόμεθα" (harpagēsometha). This word is derived from the root "ἁρπάζω" (harpazō), which means "to seize," "to snatch," or "to take by force." In this context, it is used to describe the sudden gathering or "snatching away" of believers to meet the Lord in the air.
Right, ok I agree. And if we look at the whole passage for context then it specifically says during the second coming of Christ that will happen and not a moment before. If Jesus comes back at the tail-end of the tribulation then it seems to me that it would make sense for it to be post-tribulation, no?
I think there's a natural skepticism of the term rapture because of the people and works of fiction that have pushed a very specific idea of what it is.
Good question. And I agree with your last sentence whole heartedly.
While I grew up steeped in Pre-Trib eschatology, I can definitely see the Post-Tribers points and arguments.
However, I have a hard time getting around passages such as:
Since the Tribulation is often called the Day of God's Wrath, this verse is used to support the idea that believers will be rescued from the wrath and judgment that will come during the tribulation period.
Pre-tribulation proponents interpret the restrainer mentioned here as the Holy Spirit indwelling the Church, and when the Church is raptured, the Antichrist will be revealed
And finally, the Church is no where mentioned after Revelation chapter 4. Where did it go while all the events of the Tribulation unfold?
I'm assuming you adhere to a Post-Trib view - which I don't disparage - so how would you handle these passages from a Post-Trib perspective?
https://www.gotquestions.org/Israel-generation.html
This makes me think we will see it end
Rapture is Fake & Gay.
Never mentioned in the Bible.
1,000 Years under Christ is .
Rapture event is mentioned multiple times in Scripture:
The Church isn't mentioned after Revelation chapter 4 either. Where did it go while all the events of the Tribulation unfold?
My man, you need to reread the Bible or go hit up some of the most based pastors that aren’t globalist faggots and listen carefully about the Rapture event.
I have Studied. Until my Eyes wore Swollen.
Rapture event is when Jesus Returns & those with out the Mark of the Beast are Saved.
AI Implants.
Final Event at year 0
Absolutely. Most do not realize or understand this, evil will always be in this world until the last day, people can only control evil not eliminate it.
That pesky free will that God gives us also gives us the evil in the world
A GREAT thought about what is going on...I have noticed something of what you speak about and EVERYONE is sitting on pins & needles...that is why the "justice dept" is going to go for higher charges of documents at Mar-a-Lago.
AND PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS ALL THE TAPES WHICH MEANS: HE HAS PRIM A FASCIA EVIDENCE that CANNOT be refuted....OOOPS...some .gov types are about to walk into a mine field...sucks to be them!!!!
More than five arrests will be needed.
WAY more than five.
I believe Giga is referring to the top people running the show. It seems pretty obvious that Deep State is a strict hierarchy.
I struggle with the core hypothesis here, specifically "less than five detainments".
Dozens, if not hundreds of high quality authors (and many, many more shitty ones) have spent countless hours trying to document the extremely murky power structure at the top of this planet. All have been unsuccessful at providing as much clarity as they would have liked.
Yes, we know family names and yes we can point to several situations for each that draw attention to their use of influence. But that is a far cry from knowing or understanding their surreptitious uses of power, to say nothing of the actual dynamic between those families.
We're talking ancient bloodlines in the case of many of them, to think that there's a strict hierarchy (as one anon stated) is incredibly difficult to believe. Given human nature, it's far more likely that there is an element of power sharing, agreement and at least at times, strife. There's no simple org chart that can define this structure.
And that's to say nothing of the evidence that the top of that pyramid may be non-human. But let's not open that can of worms here.
Regardless, if this was as easy as getting five heads of families in a dungeon, this battle would have been won long ago. The true power structure on this planet is as large and pervasive as it is insidious. It is everywhere at every level and they're likely to be using technologies that people like us can only speculate upon. Our enemy is powerful, well funded, intelligent and most importantly, incredibly patient. Generations sew the seeds of our enslavement that they will never see grow into full trees. Few of us can say we have the same level of patience and commitment.
The Achilles heel for this Cabal is that while they have created this global farm, once an individual finally sees that farm, they are forever off of it. So no matter how powerful our enemy is, it still comes down to us educating and persuading our fellow man to both see and understand the enemy. And we are all more than capable of excelling in that role.
You have to realize that in order for them to rule undeniably for 7 years ... the truth has to come out ... all of what is written in Revelation has to come to fruition. They will willingly throw their minions under the bus to make it so.
That’s one of the weaknesses of centralized control.
Are we talking about specific key family members or is this just a generic observation?
It only takes a "law abiding citizen", to bring the entire diseased corrupt temple down on heir heads....if you know what i mean :)
I keep on forgetting about the Religious component to The Great Awakening...thanks for the input on that!
Myopic is a great word!
I was drunk.
One big flaw here though is that the military has no authority to detain civilians.
Double check that, fren. You are not correct.
I disagree with you. That's an article on a website. Read the laws and orders, military code, executive orders, UCMJ, military justice act, and federal continuity directives. Or, don't, I really don't care.
That page was directly from the department of justice, not just a random website. Which military code authorizes them to arrest citizens? And what about the UCMJ? Which executive orders? You made very broad statements. Civilians do not fall under military code or the UCMJ. The UCMJ is all about the guidelines the military has to follow and has no effect on a civilian. So how can the UCMJ allow the military to arrest civilians? Once again, the link I provided was directly to the Department of Justice page.
I'm not going to be able to read this or understand it for you. Have a good day.
Back at you, bud.
With that being said, https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/criminal-hrsp/legacy/2011/02/04/03-10-08dod-ucmj.pdf
This states that the military only has authority over civilians that are government contractors "in the field," meaning overseas, with their unit. And even in that case, they have to turn the civilian over to the DOJ.
You're wrong. That's my opinion. You don't understand what's going on and you won't learn. So, respectfully, please move along. Thank you and have a good evening.
What about martial law?
That is the only time it can happen.
It may not seem like it now, but I think Desantis is with us. This whole thing is supposed to look organic, but feels anything but organic.
Agree
Always with the "not a doomer" disclaimer, but then you doom. What's up with that?
Well, I'm questioning you. Where's your research? How about a link? It's all your opinion, or your perspective, or your view - well, what are you basing that on? If you aren't basing it on anything but your feelings, then ... well, that's dooming.