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Federal land must be returned to the people
posted 2 years ago by UpwardBound 2 years ago by UpwardBound +126 / -0

Currently the federal US govt "owns" and controls vast amounts of territory in the USA. Now, as we wake up, we are realizing that the country has been conquered by a foreign power in DC that has a stranglehold on our resources. When/how do the people regain our land?

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– PlumberFag 30 points 2 years ago +30 / -0

I think it's more important to get the 40%of single family homes from hedge funds.

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– Tombstone2W 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

Force liquidation and prohibit corporate ownership of single home residential property with portfolios above $5 million or 20x the average national home price.

Isn't the capitalist way, but we've been far gone from that for 100 years. Return us to the old ways and I'd say let the market decide.

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– PlumberFag 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I would be fine with that. I would say renters should do it too, but I know there is a lot of mom and pop landlords too.

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– QdaPeeps 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

By re-gaining our gov't

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– rherrell 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

No, by ELIMINATING about 90% of the Federal government and giving control back to the states where it's meant to be.

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– QdaPeeps 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

eXactly! Yes!

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– QdaPeeps 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

If we fall for "voting is irrelevant" then we have already lost. Voting is NOT irrelevant, and never will be.

It's actually our next action. When\If they steal it again, they will be caught AGAIN. Which will provide us many options that do not seem to be available, Yet. That time is approaching quickly.

Prepare, we all have personal decisions to make concerning our actions going forward. Many of us already have, and are committed.

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– farpointpatriot 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Partial truth. RIGHT NOW … voting is irrelevant - in Lucifarian (cabal/deepstate/democrat/RINO) occupied areas.

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– IloveDJT202012 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

God is the Way Maker. And this is our land baby. The land I love 🇺🇸🙏🏻❤️

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– Oblakhan 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Do you remember James Watts?

He was Secretary of the Interior under Clinton. They gave the federal lands back to the people. They sold it off to their rich cronies. The federal lands belong to the people already.

What needs to be done is the gates and roads the Clintons closed should be reopened so the public has access to the lands instead of just their rich friends that own small acreage they bought on the frontages to those lands. This blocking access shit happened all over my home state

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– cathole953 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Not to be "that guy", but I wouldn't want national parks to be privatized. That's a disaster waiting to happen. First greedy developer to get their hands on will either start charging some ridiculous entry fee and run it into the ground, or start trying to clear cut and develop large swathes of the land into yet another crappy suburb or strip mall.

So yeah, BLM (Bureau of Land Management) can go screw themselves with all of their "federal land", but the national parks need to stay as is.

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– ImaSueDeNym 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

I spend a lot of time in state, national, and federal parks. I've never felt like it isn't mine. But I don't feel the need to start cutting down trees or go mudding over graves in Arlington cemetery, or put up fences to keep others out or keep my cows in.

And none of that land would be accessible to me anymore if "we gave it back to the people", which would resort in it being bought up by developers (who are often part of those "elite" we fight against). Because those with the money, (who are often corrupt) would snap up everything they could. And many people today are having trouble putting gas in their cars and beans on their table, let alone buying some of the most desirable land on Earth.

Unless by "giving it back to the people" literally means that, and we're just going to start giving it away for free? Or do another Homestead Act type deal and we can pretend to be Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman from the movie Far and Away? In which case, I guess we have more in common with Socialists than anyone would have thought because that would be right up the alley of every Democrat/lib/socialist that I've ever known.

Guess I should get my tent out and mark off some days on the calendar before someone starts throwing up a McDonald's or Starbucks or some shitty subdivision on my favorite camping spots.

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– FlamesofLiberty 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

The federal govt is only allowed land listed in this clause:

"To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Building" Art 1 Sec8 C16

Notice you don't see anything about national parks? Our state legislatures need to start saying "no, we didn't allow you to do x". Over 90% of federal entities don't legally exist. (CDC,FDA,EPA,ATF,Dept of energy, dept of education, Medicare/Medicaid just to name a few)

The Constitution was written so 18 century farmers could understand it. I doubt any member of Congress today can name the only 3 things they can collect taxes for.

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– numina18 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

I'm sitting right now in the largest national park in America, 6 million acres of the Adirondack Park. We can't do anything here without "permission". We can't put up a fence or a shed or anything. Give it back. Yes, keep it from being ruined, but let the "little people" have a small patch of heaven.

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– FlamesofLiberty 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

My point was that Congress doesn't have power to do certain things and what it can't do is left to the States. As to your point, i think there a goodness in preserving nature and personally Id rather have more nature than manmade development. While I love the idea of keeping nature intact, it is not up to the federal government to do so, and it was a sneaky way to steal land from the States.

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– praying71 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

The so called “Privatisation” of federal properties and companies in Poland after the collapse of the communism was the largest theft we ever had in Poland.

Before you repeat other’s mistakes - give people at least 1 generation time to rebuild their wealth so they can buy this land. Otherwise only the criminals and current scammers will afford, if you rush too much.

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– Duckhunter1960 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

"The federal government owns roughly 640 million acres, about 28% of the 2.27 billion acres of land in the United States. Four major federal land management agencies administer 606.5 million acres of this land (as of September 30, 2018)."

84.9% of Nevada is federally "owned". That's what we know of, who knows what [they] Control via Chinese, Gates, Monsanto and other evil owners.

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– MeLurkLongtime 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Correct me if I am wrong, but, doesn't the constitution read that the federal government can only own land that is necessary for conducting the business of the federal government? Yeah I know! You have to remember the federal government was created to handle foreign affairs. Everything with in the USA should be handled by the states.

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– russiah 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

You mean the corrupt government like in tyranny?

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– numina18 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Yes, like tyranny because they like tyranny.

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– russiah 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

“Our patience is running thin!” - fjb

😱

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– Choctaw 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Napolitano seized thousands of acres here in AZ when she was governor. All under the guise of "preserving our herritage", the amount of fencing that went up was ridiculous, places I used to go four wheeling or quail hunting were no longer accessible. Additionally under the radar, she cut the budget for the fire tankers as well as grounding some permanently for all intents. It comes down to "we know better than you peon", akin like Lurch saying they are smarter and it is their duty to best for us as they have a mission we cannot understand.

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– horseyPatriot 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

If you want to see a blueprint for how not to allow development, go to the Blue Ridge mountains in NC. You used to be able to see the mountains with minimal houses noticeable among the trees. Every year I go back, the huge growth is sad. I’m all for people being able to own land and do with what they want, but we won’t have these gorgeous views for long if we aren’t smart.

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– wyomiles 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I am old, I have spent most of my life enjoying "public lands". I can remember taking a backpack into the forest and not once worrying about paying an entrance fee or a trail being blocked off or being hassled by an armed government stooge. Good luck enjoying that freedom now. In Wyoming , I have watched BLM lands turned into oilfields and windfarms. Thousands of acres that once had no roads now have maintained gravel roads every square mile. Our lands have already been "sold" to the "elite" through cheap leases with little if any oversite. Lands should be turned over to the states !

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– TheGr8Pumpkin 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Ask the natives. They’ll tell you.

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– Bowster 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

We get it back by re-establishing the portion of our government that was overthrown in the 1860's.

The government of 'we the people' was driven out by shady foreign contractors under the guise of the so called 'civil war'.

We are building the State Assemblies now, and have been for many years. This is the unincorporated government that was overthrown in the 1860's. It is the 'people in charge' and can and will be in charge of the corporate governments that were hired as administrators, and successfully executed a coup d'état under the false flag of a civil war.

A coup d'état is an illegal and overt overthrow of the lawful government.

Claim your status as an American and join with the State Assembly to participate in the re-construction of our lawful government

Your Government is supposed to be staffed by you!

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– horseyPatriot 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

You say this, but it is not so easy. I personally know 2 young conservative men, in their 20s that were cheated out of their chance to serve in their state assemblies last election (WA and GA.) The Georgia GOP did everything possible to not support campaign financially and WA GOP also played a dirty trick.

Both are capable young men, Trump supporters, and a threat to the establishment. They campaigned hard and still couldn’t win.

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– Bowster 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

They were trying to serve in the incorporated government, not the unincorporated State Assemblies.

Big difference!

Go to The American States Assemblies to learn more.

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– Bowster 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Your Government is supposed to be staffed by you.

Its decisions are supposed to be made by you.

Its primary responsibility is to protect you and your property assets at all costs and against all comers.

That’s why governments exist.

And that is the only reason for any government to exist, ever.

But what if your government doesn’t protect you?

What if, instead, your government preys upon you, threatens you, harasses you, and makes you miserable and fearful?

Then something is terribly wrong.

Six generations of Americans have been preyed upon, threatened, and harassed by something posing as “their” government.

It isn’t our government.

It’s a substitute government run by two Federal subcontractors.

So these people are our employees, indirectly, but they are being told what to do by foreign governments controlled by foreign Principals: the Holy See, the British Monarch, and the Lord Mayor of London.

Those foreign governments are under contract to provide us with certain enumerated “governmental services”.

They have been exercising our own “Delegated Powers” and operating “in our names”.

They are supposed to operate under the limitations and in accordance with their employment contracts called the Constitutions.

Instead, they’ve been colluding to evade their obligations under the Constitutions.

And they’ve been misdirecting our Employees to racketeer against us and to misidentify our political status, to impersonate us, and to defraud us.

So instead of protecting us, these Hired Helpers have operated in Breach of Trust and harmed us.

They’ve done exactly the opposite of what your government is supposed to do.

But do you notice something? Do you see what’s missing?

You are.

You are supposed to be self-governing. You are supposed to be running Your Government.

Not your Hirelings.

So, we noticed what was wrong a long time ago. And we dusted off our laurels and we got to work.

And we talked to our friends and neighbors (those who would listen) and we explained what was wrong and we learned more as we went.… and, we organized the government we are supposed to have: Your Government.

There’s just one problem. We are supporting it. We are putting our time and money into it. We are building it up and restoring it. We are doing our “job”.

But where are you?

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– horseyPatriot 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Russian oligarchs anyone?

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