And this. Catholics wouldn't let me join, so I joined Episcopal. They are now pushing transitioning children. I am now Methodist. I understand Methodist's are under pressure to join Episcopals in this satanic ritual. Where does one go next? And don't tell me Baptist because there is no way I will sign up for everyone but us goes to hell. Like the Mormons.
Catholic church wouldnt let you join? Are you a Freemason? What was the reason? If you don't mind me asking. I've never heard such a thing. Did you deny the trinity?
I was divorced, as was my husband. We could join but couldn't participate unless we both got an annulment at $3000+. Almost 50 years ago that was beyond our means. We could, of course divorce again and give up sex, which would have denied my children life. I loved the litergy and loved it at the Episcopal church I attended for 25 years. I have been quite sad over it all.
I dont want to sound harsh. I empathize with your struggle.
So you wanted to join the Church but you werent a believer. Marriage is a sacrament in the Catholic Church. We take the vows very seriously. Marriage isnt a social construct in the Church, it is a vow before God.
Vow - A solemn promise or assertion
Divorce doesnt exist. If you divorce and remarry, Catholics believe that in the eyes of God and Christ you are living in sin, you have broken your solemn promise before God and then tried to make another such promise. Without an annulment, you are not allowed to participate in the Eucharist, another sacrament. Annulment in the Church also isnt just a social construct but requires a declaration that the original marriage had no legal existence.
From wiki:
In the Catholic Church, a declaration of nullity, commonly called an annulment and less commonly a decree of nullity,[1] and in some cases, a Catholic divorce, is an ecclesiastical tribunal determination and judgment that a marriage was invalidly contracted or, less frequently, a judgment that ordination was invalidly conferred.
Maybe the problem isnt with the Church but with your understanding of the Churches beliefs and a Catholics obligations within it. We dont do divorce. A vow is sacred, not to be broken. It is a creeping social perversion and death cult tampering that has led this country to the idea that marriage is disposable. To God and Christ it is not.
That said the Church hierarchy is full of demon worshipping baby eaters who have allowed our clergy to be infiltrated by the same. Bergoglio is a fraud. The anti pope. A construct of the black nobility, just as many Popes before him have been. This has been a long war within the Church. The laity are the ones who suffer.
Archbishop Vigano is a true leader in Christ. There are still men and women of Christ in the Church. My Bishop and my Pastor are both such men.
All of the Christian denominations have thier problems. Those that you mentioned all allow tranny pastors and bishops. All of their charitable institutions, Catholics included, are involved in the human trafficking at our southern border. It is my sincere hope that all these faiths are able to be cleansed of the death cult just as our political, academic, business and media are. I pray for this everyday.
All of that said, I hope you find peace and that your faith continues to lead you towards Christ.
I know this. When I was young, I didn't realize it applied to times before we knew the church. It all hinged on whether we were baptized. Years later I found that the Catholic church didn't recognize mormon baptisms, so we might have swung one annulment. And I know a lot of divorced Catholics.
I had to get an annulment when young because when one partner decides "no kids," that's against the whole marriage purpose. Didn't cost anything, though, so I wonder what that diocese was doing to you. Meantime, do see if you can come in, even if only to support Archbishop Viganò!
Look for a church in your area that defied the lockdown’s, if you can find one it probably doesnt take crap from government or Satan. I would love to go to Artur Pawlowski‘s church in Canada, watching him expel demons from his church was an inspiration to me and millions.
Please do not be offended by my tone, I am just a very direct person. I care about you and that is why I am telling you the truth.
We could join but couldn't participate
Yeah you cant take the Eucharist but you aren't doing that now either, so whats the problem?
You can join and fulfill your obligation to attend mass on Sunday. The obligation is to attend mass and not have sex outside of marriage. You are not currently married to the man you live with according to Catholic law. You know this, dear.
You are going to go to hell for eternity for rejecting the truth. The truth is you are committing adultery and refusing to join the Church because its inconvenient for you. You do not have to shell out a dime to join and stop sinning and I also bet there are resources to help pay for an annulment.
Join the Church
Stop having sex with the man you are committing adultery with
Work on getting that annulment (doesn't mean it will be approved but I assume you know the process)
or don't get the annulment and live chaste the rest of your years like Mary and Joseph did
Then after all of that, you can consume the bread of life, the Eucharist
“if anyone eats this bread, he will live forever” (v.51a)
“unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood” (v.53)
“he who eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me” (v.56)
“he who eats me will live because of me” (v.57)
“he who eats this bread [his flesh] will live forever” (v.58)
Please please please reconsider. We are talking about eternity here. Your heavenly Father loves you and wants to make a future for you. As daunting as it first sounds, I promise you IT IS WORTH IT. God will always make a way for you to do the right and just thing.
Please visit a FSSP and talk with a priest there. No way would it cost $3k.
It might be a few hundred bucks for FEES for processing and 1. I'd pay it for you 2. IT IS WORTH EVERY CENT to be in good standing with the Church and therefore the Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
Come to think of it, I think you and I have chatted before on here about this. Please keep in touch and I do really hope I haven't offended you with my direct tone. I just don't want to beat around the bush with such a heavy topic, the consequences are huge.
My in-laws are currently in the same situation you are in. It breaks my heart that they are letting an annulment stand in the way of heaven. We have told them so many times it is worth the price of abstaining from sex for a time. My husband and I had to do it to enter into the Church because we were not sacramentally married when trying to join. We lived chaste until we were married in the Church. I don't want sex outside of marriage to keep me out of heaven. It isn't worth it. Please know you are not alone in this problem and there is a way out. I promise it won't be $3k. Talk with an FSSP priest.
I am not catholic but my husband is. I was raised in a evangel church. I believe God loves everyone, we all sin and fall short of glory. Jesus Christ is the way.
I feel like if you pray for discernment, before entering a new church, the holy spirit will let you know immediately if it is not where you should be. I have entered many spiritually dead churches and never returned. I also think eventually we will return to having church in the home like it was originally. Immerse yourself in the bible and ask for Gods guidance, doors will open ❤️
Thank you. I do believe you're right. I felt it in my old Parish, but after our priest left, it changed and when the bishops adopted the cause of mutilating children, I left.
Yw fren, trust in the Lord, pray always 😉 he will lead you to where you need to be.
I understand the differences between the doctrines and what is taught, but I hate the churches are doing this and I know this is part of it. Much ❤️ To u, be blessed today. I will say prayers that u find ur place.
Wasn't he a Jesuit? And a NYT best-selling author? I don't trust anyone the Jew York Times promotes. They are traditionally anti-Catholic.
Of course there are Satanists within Catholic hierarchy. They have infiltrated every group and the Catholic church is not immune HOWEVER Jesus promised the gates of hell will never PREVAIL over the Church. Try as they might, the synagogue of Satan will not prevail over the Church.
He was a Vatican scholar. Brilliant man. Spoke many languages. Left BECAUSE of the Satanic infiltration. Wrote the book as non fiction. No publisher would touch it, so he rewrote it as a novel. It has a lot of details about what those men were up to, including Mahoney in LA and his Anubis-shaped "church". I didn't mention the NYT, and btw, Jesus was a Jew.
I would think most Catholics would be interested in having the truth and cleaning their house, instead of burying their heads and saying "that can't be true!". And not all Catholics are ROMAN Catholics.
If I were inside serving what had become a satanic corporation I would stick with Jesus and stop ASSISTING Satanists by working for them.
Your comment is a good example of what it looks like when something becomes so corrupted it can't be cleaned because no one can bring themselves to admit the evil has spread so much that it's terminal.
Israel has that problem too. Can not be cleansed of Satanism while the population denies they are run and controlled by Satanists - because admitting that is called "anti-Semitism".
Kek, Jew York Times. The Vatican uses the Jews (and Muslims) as agenda-shields. They are the head of the snake, the hydra, the beast and the papacy is the antichrist. Btw I'm trying to watch the bitchute you linked but it isn't loading? Do u have a different link?
And I tend to believe Vigano, Francis is always backing the NWO talking points, Always speaking for man's word (NWO Globalists) and forsaken God's word.
Here's some: that was an anti-Catholic political rant with irreverent ad hominem to dissuade from logical, factual and philosophical debate. One major, massive point made in this short commentary by Viganò: truth isn't defined by what is "commonly accepted" by man, truth is truth. Applicable to argument about "consensus" over any topic. Including irrational and misinformed hate of the original Universal (Catholic) church.
Did you see the video - might have been late 2018/early 2019? - of the night there was a blackout at the Vatican? You could hear a gun battle. My guess was that was the night the worst culprits were taken out.
Oh man, I had forgotten about the gunfight thing, seems so long ago... I hope your take is correct, because it would be great and it would explain some of the moves with their assets and banks etc. But, God help us, they're still publicly saying absolute heresy and we can only pray that not too many sheep are falling for it.
Catholics doesn't believe that Jesus is the only way we can get absolute atonement of our sins. So with that, how can they teach of Jesus when in their own teachings, they have replaced Jesus and in his places places his "holy Mother" Mary in his dress?
This too, I believe, will come out in time. Just like people waking up to past crimes, back to 9-11 and vaccines and big pharma and taxes and the Fed, etc., past fraud in the church and Vatican I, elections, their bank, will come out.
Alberto Rivera revealed way back in the 70's until the church killed him in 1997 the evils of the Catholic Church and how they are just masquerading as beacons of light while being the literal embodiment of demons and devils. This should come as no surprise; it's ingrained in their blood to be this evil.
They pushed all world events and have a clear decisive winner but make sure no one knows they were the ones to influence said events and "revolutions".
My main issue, as a catholic, is this: The Pope has no authority on anything except established catholic doctrine. So any of his efforts on NWO, climate change, jabs etc are nothing more than 1 man's opinion.
What really bothers me is when he makes declarations contrary to the faith such as blessing gay marriages, considering female priests and deacons, etc. Based on these kinds of issues I believe he is a heretic if not something worse.
I am not Catholic, if you are Catholic I respect your belief, but I will never respect you if you defend this satanist called ''pope'', he has destroyed the Catholic church and the entire Catholic faith.
The Catholic church is the "deep church". Vigano needs to wake up and leave it. Just be a Christian, nothing more is needed.
edit- 10 dissentions and zero refutals! Must be some of that Catholic logic! Kiss the ring and bow to a man who you call father (Matthew 23:9) now, go on!
Disagree on this one. Not that nothing more is needed, but rather, that the Catholic church is only bad.
In many cases, when protestants and Christians of other more recent denominations were happy just focusing on their own salvation, it was the Catholics who stood on the front line in the cultural wall, against Communism, against abortion, and against so much of the DS agenda.
The spirit runs deep in all branches of the Christian walk. But likewise, so does evil. There are many Catholics who are devoted, love Jesus and have a big heart for God. In my opinion, these are more important to God than doctrinal affirmations.
Yes, the Catholic Church was infiltrated way back, but it was STILL founded by Jesus through his disciples. That cannot be simply erased.
If you are an American, would you give up your passport and citizenship, because of what "America" has been and done over the past [x] decades/centuries?
God is the God of restoration. His purpose is to restore all things. There will be a point where the Catholic church and it's adherents will naturally move on, but the truth is, there is still a war in the Catholic church, and like everywhere, it's DS vs the Sincere and devoted (or patriotic).
I'm of the opinion that it was evil from inception and, despite that, there have no doubt been countless members of it with pure hearts toward God, so I'm not taking anything away from that. But the entire concept of a pope is blasphemous--Jesus is the mediator between God and man, not some man who lets people call him father and kiss his ring. The papacy = the antichrist, every single one. The office of papacy is antichrist. God has used the Catholic church for good throughout the ages, yes, but need I bring up the atrocities? A literal 1,000 years of darkness. The founding fathers of America knew this too, and Catholics used to be barred from holding public office I believe... not to mention the very reason America was formed, to get away from the whore of Babylon!
edit- and I wish the Catholics(?) downvoting my anti-Catholic comments would step out and counter something! Maybe I'll re-think some of my positions?
The classic reductionist fallacy is not a valid argument. Catholicism is obviously not about kissing a ring and you're knowingly lying by pushing this. Ignoring history isn't a valid basis for argument, here's the first rebuttal- get your facts straight. Start with Maryland the Catholic colony, the only one that ACTUALLY allowed freedom of religion, while the pilgrims and puritans were torturing, maiming and horribly executing members of other religions. Blaming the Catholic Church for politics, the old 1000 years of darkness trope, is a stretch worthy of 'the parties switched.' Like blaming the libraries that were burned for the loss of knowledge.
Let's start another path- why have the forces of darkness continued to violently attack the Catholic Church, above all others, even though it had clearly been infiltrated all the way up? Why are protestant churches not burned down, preachers stabbed in the streets, why is the Host of Catholics still sought after by evil for their black masses? Why do they rail so hard and lie so much about the Mother of Christ instead of respecting her? The real corruption wasn't enough, they have to continue to invent false accusations like genocide of indigent children, to cover the current human trafficking, sex abuse in schools and temples etc.
Freedom of Religion has been taken to an absurd extreme (think baphomet statues in gov't areas, open Muslims in govt etc) and from what I've heard, every amendment to the Constitution is invalid, and they were added via Jesuit subversion in order to shield the incoming Catholic infiltration into America (from it's conception)
How can you separate the ring kissing? How can you separate the bowing to other men? The calling other men Holy Father? The "infallability"? It's hardwired, so I'll use it to attack the whole beast.
The first protestants all knew who the antichrist, whore of Babylon, and beast were. Protestant churches today have all slowly been subverted by the Vatican (think ecumenical movement, World Council of Churches)
The pilgrams doing what the Catholics did for 1,000 years? How long did they do it? Idk. Not excusing that behavior no matter who did it, but let's be real. Nobody in history has a bloodier stained robe than the Vatican. Not to mention all the other scandal and abominations coming out of there. Why? How could Christ's bride still be so wicked even after He rose from the dead and we now have access to His spirit?
Mary was a faithful follower of God, but that's where I draw the line as to MY reverence for her. What Christ decides to do in relation to her position in Heaven is none of my business and makes no difference to my own walk with Him, and I sure ain't praying to her so she can ask Jesus for me. Where does it say to do that?
All those strawmen at the end can stand there, I'm not even gonna try
That's a lot of ignorance and nuttiness in one rant, I'm truly amazed. Infallibility isn't about the Pope, noting he says is infallible like that, you poor misled hater. Dogma doesn't say you have to kiss a ring, weird how you're hung up with that (hoping there's no trauma in your past). Super how you heard this and heard that then come back with 'where does it say to do X?' The internet, where you got all that other nonsense lol He said that's our mother, but hey you can shop and choose His words apparently. Praying for you, because when emotion tramples logic like that, something else is going on in one's life. Hope you find truth and peace, brother.
Christ Himself stated: "Come out of her, so he may not partake of her plagues!" And it is further reinforced with the testimonies of ex-Jesuit priests such as Alberto Rivera.
Even the Civil War and Abraham Lincoln's assassination were setup by Catholic provacateurs (i.e. The assassin who killed Lincoln was found yelling out a Jesuit code to let them other members know that the deed was done and it was for the Church).
The Catholic church is not the deep church, it is the church started by Jesus. Protestantism is the deep church. You believe Freemason/Jewish lies about Catholicism. Your ancestors were Catholic, son.
The churchs only play left is to pretend that they were infilitrated by 'evil freemasons using satanic geometry to cast spells and trick them into comitting crimes' and that they need a return to "traditional catholicism".
Pretty funny that it has come down to this for Rome. Sucks to be backed into a corner.
PRETEND they were infiltrated? Read the Permanent Instruction of the Alta Vendita and Bella Dodd's work on Catholic infiltration. The FBI isn't coming against your church, they're railing against traditional Catholicism. Satanic groups don't steal your church bread, they steal Catholic EUCHARIST for BLACK MASSES, a mockery of CATHOLIC MASS.
Satan knows where the real power is. You missed the memo it seems. Protestantism is Freemasonry lite.
That's a sorry turd to throw. They're deep state same as the royals, bankers, Hollywood, Washington DC, etc. What is "the play" for the other governments? Your rant says more about you than the Catholic Church, and it's not about truth.
Praying for you, it's gonna be a tough awakening. If you ask anyone to help you, you're praying to them, and gosh I hope there aren't any photos up in your house, idolator. And super cute to think that no tiebreaker, penance, reconciliation would be necessary to step into heaven before Our Savior. You actually believe all your robes are the whitest of white right now, no cleansing needed? And that no one has seen purgatory or hell? You think there have been no saints, visionaries, messages from God or Jesus or the Paraclete for a couple of thousand years, they're all witches or something, everything supernatural is demonic?
Pray to dead people? No, praying to SAINTS who are ALIVE in heaven like Jesus is. You don't ever ask people to pray for you? You don't ask your mom and dad to pray for you? Give me a break. You either believe in life after death or you don't. You either believe in intercessory prayer or you don't. Catch up.
Spanish inquisition was done to deal with those who say they are Catholic but were infiltrators and subversive, you know, like what you have going on in your government currently?
Cardinal Newman famously said, “To be deep in history is to cease to be a Protestant.” He believed that if one compared the teaching and practice of both Protestantism and Rome to the teaching and practice of the early church, one would be forced to conclude that Rome was the true heir of the early church.
Spanish inquisition was done to deal with those who say they are Catholic but were infiltrators and subversive, you know, like what you have going on in your government currently?
Just to be clear.
You're condoning ~300k people being killed because they "infiltrated the Church"?
Actually, why would I ask that. Of course you do, the pope ordered it and you consider popes infallible. Probably every Catholic who are pressed on the question condone the Spanish inquisition.
BTW the Pope is infallible on matters of dogma and when speaking from the chair of Peter.
A pope flying on a plane saying Oreos are the best cookie doesn't meet the requirements for infallibility.
You have a lot of prejudice against the one true faith. Satan is proud of your gullibility. Satanists don't steal Catholic Eucharist just because. They know where the real power is.
I’ve been saying it… I’ve been saying it for 10 damn years… #Anti-Pope
I can only upvote this once, but I agree 1000%.
This
Damn, even that white smoke is rigged. Dominion smoke
And this. Catholics wouldn't let me join, so I joined Episcopal. They are now pushing transitioning children. I am now Methodist. I understand Methodist's are under pressure to join Episcopals in this satanic ritual. Where does one go next? And don't tell me Baptist because there is no way I will sign up for everyone but us goes to hell. Like the Mormons.
Catholic church wouldnt let you join? Are you a Freemason? What was the reason? If you don't mind me asking. I've never heard such a thing. Did you deny the trinity?
I was divorced, as was my husband. We could join but couldn't participate unless we both got an annulment at $3000+. Almost 50 years ago that was beyond our means. We could, of course divorce again and give up sex, which would have denied my children life. I loved the litergy and loved it at the Episcopal church I attended for 25 years. I have been quite sad over it all.
I dont want to sound harsh. I empathize with your struggle.
So you wanted to join the Church but you werent a believer. Marriage is a sacrament in the Catholic Church. We take the vows very seriously. Marriage isnt a social construct in the Church, it is a vow before God.
Vow - A solemn promise or assertion
Divorce doesnt exist. If you divorce and remarry, Catholics believe that in the eyes of God and Christ you are living in sin, you have broken your solemn promise before God and then tried to make another such promise. Without an annulment, you are not allowed to participate in the Eucharist, another sacrament. Annulment in the Church also isnt just a social construct but requires a declaration that the original marriage had no legal existence.
From wiki:
In the Catholic Church, a declaration of nullity, commonly called an annulment and less commonly a decree of nullity,[1] and in some cases, a Catholic divorce, is an ecclesiastical tribunal determination and judgment that a marriage was invalidly contracted or, less frequently, a judgment that ordination was invalidly conferred.
Maybe the problem isnt with the Church but with your understanding of the Churches beliefs and a Catholics obligations within it. We dont do divorce. A vow is sacred, not to be broken. It is a creeping social perversion and death cult tampering that has led this country to the idea that marriage is disposable. To God and Christ it is not.
That said the Church hierarchy is full of demon worshipping baby eaters who have allowed our clergy to be infiltrated by the same. Bergoglio is a fraud. The anti pope. A construct of the black nobility, just as many Popes before him have been. This has been a long war within the Church. The laity are the ones who suffer.
Archbishop Vigano is a true leader in Christ. There are still men and women of Christ in the Church. My Bishop and my Pastor are both such men.
All of the Christian denominations have thier problems. Those that you mentioned all allow tranny pastors and bishops. All of their charitable institutions, Catholics included, are involved in the human trafficking at our southern border. It is my sincere hope that all these faiths are able to be cleansed of the death cult just as our political, academic, business and media are. I pray for this everyday.
All of that said, I hope you find peace and that your faith continues to lead you towards Christ.
I know this. When I was young, I didn't realize it applied to times before we knew the church. It all hinged on whether we were baptized. Years later I found that the Catholic church didn't recognize mormon baptisms, so we might have swung one annulment. And I know a lot of divorced Catholics.
I had to get an annulment when young because when one partner decides "no kids," that's against the whole marriage purpose. Didn't cost anything, though, so I wonder what that diocese was doing to you. Meantime, do see if you can come in, even if only to support Archbishop Viganò!
Look for a church in your area that defied the lockdown’s, if you can find one it probably doesnt take crap from government or Satan. I would love to go to Artur Pawlowski‘s church in Canada, watching him expel demons from his church was an inspiration to me and millions.
The Catholic church is the one true faith. The Catholic church as a monopoly on truth.
What does your church teach about masturbation and contraception?
Please do not be offended by my tone, I am just a very direct person. I care about you and that is why I am telling you the truth.
Yeah you cant take the Eucharist but you aren't doing that now either, so whats the problem?
You can join and fulfill your obligation to attend mass on Sunday. The obligation is to attend mass and not have sex outside of marriage. You are not currently married to the man you live with according to Catholic law. You know this, dear.
You are going to go to hell for eternity for rejecting the truth. The truth is you are committing adultery and refusing to join the Church because its inconvenient for you. You do not have to shell out a dime to join and stop sinning and I also bet there are resources to help pay for an annulment.
Join the Church
Stop having sex with the man you are committing adultery with
Work on getting that annulment (doesn't mean it will be approved but I assume you know the process)
or don't get the annulment and live chaste the rest of your years like Mary and Joseph did
Then after all of that, you can consume the bread of life, the Eucharist
Please please please reconsider. We are talking about eternity here. Your heavenly Father loves you and wants to make a future for you. As daunting as it first sounds, I promise you IT IS WORTH IT. God will always make a way for you to do the right and just thing.
Also 3000 seems excessive.
https://camdendiocese.org/tribunal/how-much-does-an-annulment-cost/#:~:text=One%20does%20not%20pay%20for%20an%20annulment.&text=These%20non%2Drefundable%20fees%20are,and%20for%20the%20Petitioner's%20benefit.
Please visit a FSSP and talk with a priest there. No way would it cost $3k.
It might be a few hundred bucks for FEES for processing and 1. I'd pay it for you 2. IT IS WORTH EVERY CENT to be in good standing with the Church and therefore the Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
Come to think of it, I think you and I have chatted before on here about this. Please keep in touch and I do really hope I haven't offended you with my direct tone. I just don't want to beat around the bush with such a heavy topic, the consequences are huge.
My in-laws are currently in the same situation you are in. It breaks my heart that they are letting an annulment stand in the way of heaven. We have told them so many times it is worth the price of abstaining from sex for a time. My husband and I had to do it to enter into the Church because we were not sacramentally married when trying to join. We lived chaste until we were married in the Church. I don't want sex outside of marriage to keep me out of heaven. It isn't worth it. Please know you are not alone in this problem and there is a way out. I promise it won't be $3k. Talk with an FSSP priest.
Freemasons have many Catholics
Freemasons have many of everything.
You CANNOT be Catholic and a Freemason. You would be a Freemason pretending to be Catholic.
Go to your heart and inner peace. That’s where I trust the most. If this makes any sense.
Yes it does. Thank you.
I am not catholic but my husband is. I was raised in a evangel church. I believe God loves everyone, we all sin and fall short of glory. Jesus Christ is the way. I feel like if you pray for discernment, before entering a new church, the holy spirit will let you know immediately if it is not where you should be. I have entered many spiritually dead churches and never returned. I also think eventually we will return to having church in the home like it was originally. Immerse yourself in the bible and ask for Gods guidance, doors will open ❤️
Thank you. I do believe you're right. I felt it in my old Parish, but after our priest left, it changed and when the bishops adopted the cause of mutilating children, I left.
Yw fren, trust in the Lord, pray always 😉 he will lead you to where you need to be. I understand the differences between the doctrines and what is taught, but I hate the churches are doing this and I know this is part of it. Much ❤️ To u, be blessed today. I will say prayers that u find ur place.
https://www.biblestudytools.com/bible-study/topical-studies/what-is-the-significance-of-the-seven-churches-in-revelation.html
Well all is destined for hell if they don't accept the Lord Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior.
You got to stop joining these cults (i.e. built in separated factions that distort the true gospel of God)
How about forming ecclesiae and study and prayer groups?
Whoa! AB Vigano did not commit suicide!
He has been speaking out. I pray for him.
Me, too, everyday...AB Vigano is under God's Protection and Provision like POTUS. 🙏🙌
I love this man, he is not afraid!
Francis is a heretic!
Dr Malachi Martin called them the Superforce. Satanists inside the Vatican. And then he wrote a book about it called Windswept House.
His last words after falling down a flight of stairs:
"Someone pushed me"
Wasn't he a Jesuit? And a NYT best-selling author? I don't trust anyone the Jew York Times promotes. They are traditionally anti-Catholic.
Of course there are Satanists within Catholic hierarchy. They have infiltrated every group and the Catholic church is not immune HOWEVER Jesus promised the gates of hell will never PREVAIL over the Church. Try as they might, the synagogue of Satan will not prevail over the Church.
He was a Vatican scholar. Brilliant man. Spoke many languages. Left BECAUSE of the Satanic infiltration. Wrote the book as non fiction. No publisher would touch it, so he rewrote it as a novel. It has a lot of details about what those men were up to, including Mahoney in LA and his Anubis-shaped "church". I didn't mention the NYT, and btw, Jesus was a Jew.
I would think most Catholics would be interested in having the truth and cleaning their house, instead of burying their heads and saying "that can't be true!". And not all Catholics are ROMAN Catholics.
lol a brilliant man doesn't desert and leave Jesus' side because of Satan. You don't leave the Church, you boot the Freemasons and Satanists OUT.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/alG12AQbQVLO/
If I were inside serving what had become a satanic corporation I would stick with Jesus and stop ASSISTING Satanists by working for them.
Your comment is a good example of what it looks like when something becomes so corrupted it can't be cleaned because no one can bring themselves to admit the evil has spread so much that it's terminal.
Israel has that problem too. Can not be cleansed of Satanism while the population denies they are run and controlled by Satanists - because admitting that is called "anti-Semitism".
By the way, the Vatican is not "The Church"
You stick with Jesus by not leaving His Church. The infestation will be cleaned out. You are throwing the baby out with the bath water.
Look what happens when people leave the Church....40,000+ Christian denominations lol
Get a grip
Kek, Jew York Times. The Vatican uses the Jews (and Muslims) as agenda-shields. They are the head of the snake, the hydra, the beast and the papacy is the antichrist. Btw I'm trying to watch the bitchute you linked but it isn't loading? Do u have a different link?
Prove it.
Okay Martin Luther, man who was duped by Jews and later turned on them when he realized it.
Nice bedfellow!
Time will tell (; Time will tell (;
We are not supposed to worship material things --- pope surrounded by materialistic shit.
That isn't worship.
correct
And I tend to believe Vigano, Francis is always backing the NWO talking points, Always speaking for man's word (NWO Globalists) and forsaken God's word.
Let's fight over who is Big Chief Pedo because none of this has anything to do with Christianity, just who is going to control 'it'.
It's all good from this guy Abe Vigoda, but less politics and more Jesus please.
Someone needs to say these things.
Shine the light in dark places.
Here's some: that was an anti-Catholic political rant with irreverent ad hominem to dissuade from logical, factual and philosophical debate. One major, massive point made in this short commentary by Viganò: truth isn't defined by what is "commonly accepted" by man, truth is truth. Applicable to argument about "consensus" over any topic. Including irrational and misinformed hate of the original Universal (Catholic) church.
Did you see the video - might have been late 2018/early 2019? - of the night there was a blackout at the Vatican? You could hear a gun battle. My guess was that was the night the worst culprits were taken out.
Oh man, I had forgotten about the gunfight thing, seems so long ago... I hope your take is correct, because it would be great and it would explain some of the moves with their assets and banks etc. But, God help us, they're still publicly saying absolute heresy and we can only pray that not too many sheep are falling for it.
Catholics doesn't believe that Jesus is the only way we can get absolute atonement of our sins. So with that, how can they teach of Jesus when in their own teachings, they have replaced Jesus and in his places places his "holy Mother" Mary in his dress?
u/#spicy
Fraud. Wow. Vigano is the man.
The bad popes go back farther than this demon.
This too, I believe, will come out in time. Just like people waking up to past crimes, back to 9-11 and vaccines and big pharma and taxes and the Fed, etc., past fraud in the church and Vatican I, elections, their bank, will come out.
I'll say
Alberto Rivera revealed way back in the 70's until the church killed him in 1997 the evils of the Catholic Church and how they are just masquerading as beacons of light while being the literal embodiment of demons and devils. This should come as no surprise; it's ingrained in their blood to be this evil.
They pushed all world events and have a clear decisive winner but make sure no one knows they were the ones to influence said events and "revolutions".
Holy Moly!
My main issue, as a catholic, is this: The Pope has no authority on anything except established catholic doctrine. So any of his efforts on NWO, climate change, jabs etc are nothing more than 1 man's opinion.
What really bothers me is when he makes declarations contrary to the faith such as blessing gay marriages, considering female priests and deacons, etc. Based on these kinds of issues I believe he is a heretic if not something worse.
But they direct our money, like the frauds in Washington direct our money.
I am so grateful for Archbishop Vigano and other heroes who are willing to tell the truth.
I am not Catholic, if you are Catholic I respect your belief, but I will never respect you if you defend this satanist called ''pope'', he has destroyed the Catholic church and the entire Catholic faith.
The Catholic church is the "deep church". Vigano needs to wake up and leave it. Just be a Christian, nothing more is needed.
edit- 10 dissentions and zero refutals! Must be some of that Catholic logic! Kiss the ring and bow to a man who you call father (Matthew 23:9) now, go on!
Disagree on this one. Not that nothing more is needed, but rather, that the Catholic church is only bad.
In many cases, when protestants and Christians of other more recent denominations were happy just focusing on their own salvation, it was the Catholics who stood on the front line in the cultural wall, against Communism, against abortion, and against so much of the DS agenda.
The spirit runs deep in all branches of the Christian walk. But likewise, so does evil. There are many Catholics who are devoted, love Jesus and have a big heart for God. In my opinion, these are more important to God than doctrinal affirmations.
Yes, the Catholic Church was infiltrated way back, but it was STILL founded by Jesus through his disciples. That cannot be simply erased.
If you are an American, would you give up your passport and citizenship, because of what "America" has been and done over the past [x] decades/centuries?
God is the God of restoration. His purpose is to restore all things. There will be a point where the Catholic church and it's adherents will naturally move on, but the truth is, there is still a war in the Catholic church, and like everywhere, it's DS vs the Sincere and devoted (or patriotic).
I'm of the opinion that it was evil from inception and, despite that, there have no doubt been countless members of it with pure hearts toward God, so I'm not taking anything away from that. But the entire concept of a pope is blasphemous--Jesus is the mediator between God and man, not some man who lets people call him father and kiss his ring. The papacy = the antichrist, every single one. The office of papacy is antichrist. God has used the Catholic church for good throughout the ages, yes, but need I bring up the atrocities? A literal 1,000 years of darkness. The founding fathers of America knew this too, and Catholics used to be barred from holding public office I believe... not to mention the very reason America was formed, to get away from the whore of Babylon!
edit- and I wish the Catholics(?) downvoting my anti-Catholic comments would step out and counter something! Maybe I'll re-think some of my positions?
The classic reductionist fallacy is not a valid argument. Catholicism is obviously not about kissing a ring and you're knowingly lying by pushing this. Ignoring history isn't a valid basis for argument, here's the first rebuttal- get your facts straight. Start with Maryland the Catholic colony, the only one that ACTUALLY allowed freedom of religion, while the pilgrims and puritans were torturing, maiming and horribly executing members of other religions. Blaming the Catholic Church for politics, the old 1000 years of darkness trope, is a stretch worthy of 'the parties switched.' Like blaming the libraries that were burned for the loss of knowledge.
Let's start another path- why have the forces of darkness continued to violently attack the Catholic Church, above all others, even though it had clearly been infiltrated all the way up? Why are protestant churches not burned down, preachers stabbed in the streets, why is the Host of Catholics still sought after by evil for their black masses? Why do they rail so hard and lie so much about the Mother of Christ instead of respecting her? The real corruption wasn't enough, they have to continue to invent false accusations like genocide of indigent children, to cover the current human trafficking, sex abuse in schools and temples etc.
Freedom of Religion has been taken to an absurd extreme (think baphomet statues in gov't areas, open Muslims in govt etc) and from what I've heard, every amendment to the Constitution is invalid, and they were added via Jesuit subversion in order to shield the incoming Catholic infiltration into America (from it's conception)
How can you separate the ring kissing? How can you separate the bowing to other men? The calling other men Holy Father? The "infallability"? It's hardwired, so I'll use it to attack the whole beast.
The first protestants all knew who the antichrist, whore of Babylon, and beast were. Protestant churches today have all slowly been subverted by the Vatican (think ecumenical movement, World Council of Churches)
The pilgrams doing what the Catholics did for 1,000 years? How long did they do it? Idk. Not excusing that behavior no matter who did it, but let's be real. Nobody in history has a bloodier stained robe than the Vatican. Not to mention all the other scandal and abominations coming out of there. Why? How could Christ's bride still be so wicked even after He rose from the dead and we now have access to His spirit?
Mary was a faithful follower of God, but that's where I draw the line as to MY reverence for her. What Christ decides to do in relation to her position in Heaven is none of my business and makes no difference to my own walk with Him, and I sure ain't praying to her so she can ask Jesus for me. Where does it say to do that?
All those strawmen at the end can stand there, I'm not even gonna try
That's a lot of ignorance and nuttiness in one rant, I'm truly amazed. Infallibility isn't about the Pope, noting he says is infallible like that, you poor misled hater. Dogma doesn't say you have to kiss a ring, weird how you're hung up with that (hoping there's no trauma in your past). Super how you heard this and heard that then come back with 'where does it say to do X?' The internet, where you got all that other nonsense lol He said that's our mother, but hey you can shop and choose His words apparently. Praying for you, because when emotion tramples logic like that, something else is going on in one's life. Hope you find truth and peace, brother.
He allows it though
Give me some facts then, oh wise one? And thanks for the prayers, regardless of who is right those count beyond it!
Bingo.
Christ Himself stated: "Come out of her, so he may not partake of her plagues!" And it is further reinforced with the testimonies of ex-Jesuit priests such as Alberto Rivera.
The Inquisition says otherwise....
Even the Civil War and Abraham Lincoln's assassination were setup by Catholic provacateurs (i.e. The assassin who killed Lincoln was found yelling out a Jesuit code to let them other members know that the deed was done and it was for the Church).
1,000 years of hunting down, torturing and executing "non-believers" begs to differ. Christ never told us to do that.
I would add that JPII was breaking away because his Marian roots moved him to releasing the Fatima information, so I believe they tried to kill him.
The Catholic church is not the deep church, it is the church started by Jesus. Protestantism is the deep church. You believe Freemason/Jewish lies about Catholicism. Your ancestors were Catholic, son.
The history of the Catholic church, combined with the ritual and pomp, and finally the unbiblical beliefs, tell me otherwise.
You believe Freemason lies about the one true faith.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/alG12AQbQVLO/
"The history" as told by who? Enemies of the Church? Think about it, son.
The churchs only play left is to pretend that they were infilitrated by 'evil freemasons using satanic geometry to cast spells and trick them into comitting crimes' and that they need a return to "traditional catholicism".
Pretty funny that it has come down to this for Rome. Sucks to be backed into a corner.
PRETEND they were infiltrated? Read the Permanent Instruction of the Alta Vendita and Bella Dodd's work on Catholic infiltration. The FBI isn't coming against your church, they're railing against traditional Catholicism. Satanic groups don't steal your church bread, they steal Catholic EUCHARIST for BLACK MASSES, a mockery of CATHOLIC MASS.
Satan knows where the real power is. You missed the memo it seems. Protestantism is Freemasonry lite.
That's a sorry turd to throw. They're deep state same as the royals, bankers, Hollywood, Washington DC, etc. What is "the play" for the other governments? Your rant says more about you than the Catholic Church, and it's not about truth.
How traditional?
Indulgences and Spanish Inquisition traditional or pray to dead people instead of God to earn your way out of purgatory traditional?
Praying for you, it's gonna be a tough awakening. If you ask anyone to help you, you're praying to them, and gosh I hope there aren't any photos up in your house, idolator. And super cute to think that no tiebreaker, penance, reconciliation would be necessary to step into heaven before Our Savior. You actually believe all your robes are the whitest of white right now, no cleansing needed? And that no one has seen purgatory or hell? You think there have been no saints, visionaries, messages from God or Jesus or the Paraclete for a couple of thousand years, they're all witches or something, everything supernatural is demonic?
Pray to dead people? No, praying to SAINTS who are ALIVE in heaven like Jesus is. You don't ever ask people to pray for you? You don't ask your mom and dad to pray for you? Give me a break. You either believe in life after death or you don't. You either believe in intercessory prayer or you don't. Catch up.
Spanish inquisition was done to deal with those who say they are Catholic but were infiltrators and subversive, you know, like what you have going on in your government currently?
Just to be clear.
You're condoning ~300k people being killed because they "infiltrated the Church"?
Actually, why would I ask that. Of course you do, the pope ordered it and you consider popes infallible. Probably every Catholic who are pressed on the question condone the Spanish inquisition.
Cult.
You believe everything Freemasons tell you?
https://www.bitchute.com/video/alG12AQbQVLO/
I don't need freemasons to explain that the Catholic church hierarchy is the highest per-capita organization of pedophiles in existence.
There it is. Cult.
I hate to break it to you, but Q really hates the Catholic church. Not the people in the church of course, the hierarchy.
u/#q1021
And of course this classic ...
u/#q191
To sit there and pretend that the pope is infallible about anything is the most delusional BS I've ever seen.
You do realize you're replying in a thread where an Archbishop is protesting that the pope is fake, right?
Guess that makes him a protestant.
Prove it and I'll tell ya right now, that isn't even remotely true.
Q hates the Catholic church lol Q is a team of people for starters and no, they don't. Prove that, too.
The Pope is infallible on matters of faith. You want to be your own Pope. Who made you infallible on matters of faith? NOBODY!
BTW the Pope is infallible on matters of dogma and when speaking from the chair of Peter.
A pope flying on a plane saying Oreos are the best cookie doesn't meet the requirements for infallibility.
You have a lot of prejudice against the one true faith. Satan is proud of your gullibility. Satanists don't steal Catholic Eucharist just because. They know where the real power is.