How about giving me a masters for 50 years of life experience. I have worked with thousands of different people, many with advanced degrees, many who knew less than I.
I do teach, been teaching my co workers for years. The most rewarding has been mentoring young people . Some who have gone on to be managers in large corporations.
That's the last thing we should do, is give them an inch of what they want. They're not going to be satisfied until we pay for ALL colleges/universities. They'll argue it's not fair, since everyone won't be able to go to the free university.
My concern is that it needs to be run by honest & MAGA minded individuals who are only interested in the truth. Everything that starts great gets infiltrated. How does that get protected? As long as the money (ie Soros & his bosses types) are not able to pay professors on the side that end up working for this project, it could be fantastic.
I have been a fan of https://online.hillsdale.edu/ for a while now. As long as the degrees are focused on elevating student knowledge & teaching them home to think critically vs what to think. I had some great philosophy professors that taught how to critically think & another who was woke before the term was invented & yelled at students for brining up western philosophy in their class. I don't even recall which philosophy class it was, I just remember he was a cry baby. Maybe 120 or 210?
UFr6Bq you bring up some VERY salient points on the College Tuition System...IT is a money-making machine for both the colleges/unis and the banks...that is all...
What President Trump is proposing will go along way of getting a "HIGHER QUALITY" of education and getting a degree that will help NOT only the individual but OUR country as well...Some of may NOT goto the "UPPER LEVEL" unis BUT there are brains AND a worth ethic that brings more to the table than the above...
Great Insight into what OUR university system has become!!!! OUTSTANDING!!!
He needs to be careful about this since he had a bad history with running a “school” in the past. Lost court battle about it for lots of money, too. It may be an idea that gets floated, but others need to run with it.
I'm pretty sure he didn't run anything at Trump University.. he just sold/licensed his name for the most part... to people running an expensive real estate coaching program. That was a bad idea.
Love this! 💯🎯. The US college education system is a messed up, poorly managed “pay to play” system. For example, if you’re studying to be a doctor, you spend a ton of money to get super indoctrinated into a totally false idea of how to heal people. Then, you have to charge people a ton of money to justify your degree and existence as a “doctor”. Most “doctors” are there for themselves, not for your personal health and well being. Education should not be tied to the economy like it is right now.
Free is one of those common misconceptions. You always get out of any endeavor what you have put into it. This will remove the barrier of money for those that have a desire to get a good education without strapping the monkey on your back of a lifetime of debt. There are students that go to college that have a desire for understanding and knowledge, the rest go for many reasons; few of those reasons are any good. There are quite a few people that have the capability to educate themselves with desire and dedication, unfortunately it requires time and substantial energy. Focused courses provide a gateway to the basics of any subject and provide the framework to continue self education. The courses themselves are basic introduction to the topic and do not provide mastery. Information has been free since the proliferation of the internet. Some have used it to gain an education that is unparalleled at any university. Simply think of the breath and span of information we have all learned here. This forum has been pretty much a university of a huge array of topics and have spawned individual research and discovery that is staggering. The most important aspect is to dig and do your own research to follow where the information leads you, but to use your own logic and reason to find what it means. When this is all done, we are going to need diplomas or something from Q University 😁
I'm sure that President Trump means well, but I think this is a horrible idea.
We should be trying to get the government out of the education system, not adding on to it.
If this plan ever gets implemented, the Dems will use it as a springboard to get ALL colleges and universities involved. Once the government pays for one college/university, it will be impossible to stop people from demanding we pay for ALL of them.
It's a slippery slope. Best that we keep the government out of the education system entirely.
That could be a cool thing and its appealing to the lefties, but in my opinion, colleges are overpaid and overrated. There are not that many people that really get to utilize that degree that they earn, but they pay back tons of money. One of the most successful people I met never even graduated high school, but he has these a number of college grads working for him.
The job market is very inconsistent which is why the young find it hard to find a job even with a degree. From my experience whether you have a degree or not doesn't carry as much weight as who you know to obtain a foot in the door. And companies will bend over backwards to fill quotas. More often than not that is going to be very true with government jobs.
Next, he could revamp the primary school system. I think there is a lot of opportunity to improve the basic schooling while reducing the hours of in classroom. Wouldn't it be better if kids were allowed to be kids again, and only have their youth interrupted for brief lessons in the necessary stuff?
You may react in horror that this will put more pressure on parents to find daycare or sitters, but that is only an issue because of the economic burden. With income tax, inflation, and other financial drains removed, there will no longer be need for 2+ income families. I grew up knowing my mother would be home to greet me at lunch and after school. I can't imagine what damage we're doing to young children's psyches.
I'm interested in how you see us going back to a one-income nuclear family.
Even before inflation was an issue, the majority of Americans still had big money issues. And even if we got rid of income tax, most families wouldn't be able to afford a one-income lifestyle.
Rent and mortgages are the biggest hurdles in the way of families surviving on one income. I'm not sure how we would fix that. You can't force people to give people cheap rent or sell their homes cheaply.
The huge gap between CEOs and business owners and regular employees is the other huge hurdle. Unless we jack up the minimum wage, there's really nothing we can do about that. We can't force companies to not pay their CEOs huge salaries.
Just to give you an idea of how different salaries are now compared to when families were once able to survive on one income:
Today, the average CEO makes around 350x what the company's typical workers make.
In 1965, the CEOs made only 20x what the other employees made.
Our middle class is dying out. Most people are falling to lower class while a select few are rising to upper class.
And I don't see what can be done about it, really. We can't penalize people for wanting to make more money. It's part of the idea of the American Dream.
I think it's possible to remove all the scamminess from the economy and to have a purely merit-based capitalist system. Currently, the most lucrative ventures are the ones tapping in to taxpayer funds. Look at pharma. Look at defense.
The world economy has been used to transfer wealth from working people to the parasites. I just see huge upside potential, but I have no economic plan for how it is going to happen.
Damn. I wish this had happened during his first term. My daughter graduated in May with a bachelors degree in dental hygiene and it wasn’t cheap! Oh well, maybe I can further my education.
I was charged extra by a state ran college system, simply because I didn't live on campus. Raised my tuition by nearly 20% because I had a full-time job, a child, and lived on my own.
Tuition was just over 7k(per semester), I was "taxed" almost an additional 1k because they wouldn't make money off me using their "amenities"
Meanwhile I have a native friend (same state university system), attended college for free for 8 yrs, lived off campus and had even his food paid for. He recieved a master's degree in native studies, he is a 2nd shift supervisor now, and makes 10-20k less than they hourly employees he supervises.
Left after 1st year, 2017, completely indoctrination stations.
Because a Native man sold their land to a white man, nearly 200 years ago,
Happening to be 100% blooded native, mom a nurse dad in prison. Although, he had like 7 other brothers and sisters, they all went for free on the tax payers dime. His mother is one hell of a women however, mad props to her. Especially the town they grew up it, it could of went south real fast for any of them.
Why I left, was going for a business degree, then realized I was already running an entire division of a multimillion dollar business. Left. Time spent on the job learning is much more valuable.
Many of us reach a point where we say enough and just move forward. Sometimes obtaining a bachelors or masters is moving forward but not guaranteed its needs to be done.
For me personally I always contemplated going back to obtain my masters but I do not see the benefits outweighing the risks for my situation. So I rather move forward in a different way. For example pay off my home faster and invest/save aggressively.
Maybe if I pay off my home in the future completely I would consider it or a future employer offers to share the cost.
But sometimes what we find out is that in the real world what we thought we needed to land a job is just the fear of our own doing. That is because there are many jobs that say you need X, Y, and Z. And when you fill out so many resumes with little call back it feels like you must obtain more "education". But on the flipside I have walked into jobs with little effort and the requirements were not mandatory at all. Very feast or famine where it is really the luck of the draw sometimes. The frustrating thing about the job market is that I have a STEM degree with experience but companies will bend over backwards to fill quotas. To fill these quotas they waive a lot of experience/education requirements and hand these people six figure jobs. But that is something we are fully aware of on these forums.
Also, why do we have this story that you need to educate people for 20 years before they become useful to society? The lower grades should be gutted and replaced with something much smaller and more flexible
It's getting late for me so I'll just cut to the end: paying for a college degree is akin to paying for sex.
In the end, you handsomely overpaid for something you should be getting for free.
How about giving me a masters for 50 years of life experience. I have worked with thousands of different people, many with advanced degrees, many who knew less than I.
Maybe you could teach 😁
I do teach, been teaching my co workers for years. The most rewarding has been mentoring young people . Some who have gone on to be managers in large corporations.
I think a takeaway is that when he does this, he will silence the free tuition crybabies. You want free? Okay, here you go.
And also, hey colleges you want people to pay? Well then you better get really lean and good at marketing and start providing a skill set to students.
That's the last thing we should do, is give them an inch of what they want. They're not going to be satisfied until we pay for ALL colleges/universities. They'll argue it's not fair, since everyone won't be able to go to the free university.
We have this in the UK, the Open University. Its a good degree course and most employers recognise it as an above average uni education.
My concern is that it needs to be run by honest & MAGA minded individuals who are only interested in the truth. Everything that starts great gets infiltrated. How does that get protected? As long as the money (ie Soros & his bosses types) are not able to pay professors on the side that end up working for this project, it could be fantastic.
I have been a fan of https://online.hillsdale.edu/ for a while now. As long as the degrees are focused on elevating student knowledge & teaching them home to think critically vs what to think. I had some great philosophy professors that taught how to critically think & another who was woke before the term was invented & yelled at students for brining up western philosophy in their class. I don't even recall which philosophy class it was, I just remember he was a cry baby. Maybe 120 or 210?
If it's paid for by the government, it will be impossible to have it run exclusively by MAGA.
The next Dem president in office after free university is approved will put their own people in to head it up.
Agreed, so other than giving the socialists the "free college" & decimating overpriced education, what is the long term goal of this?
What are the failsafe being out in place to keep politics out of it? RINO would be just as bad as a Dem with this.
I think this is great. Jordan Peterson is also starting up a very low cost online university.
Never heard of her
I'm all for it because he's basically answering the communist indoctrination by slapping them in the face with patriotic schooling for higher edu
Fight fire w fire
UFr6Bq you bring up some VERY salient points on the College Tuition System...IT is a money-making machine for both the colleges/unis and the banks...that is all...
What President Trump is proposing will go along way of getting a "HIGHER QUALITY" of education and getting a degree that will help NOT only the individual but OUR country as well...Some of may NOT goto the "UPPER LEVEL" unis BUT there are brains AND a worth ethic that brings more to the table than the above...
Great Insight into what OUR university system has become!!!! OUTSTANDING!!!
He needs to be careful about this since he had a bad history with running a “school” in the past. Lost court battle about it for lots of money, too. It may be an idea that gets floated, but others need to run with it.
I'm pretty sure he didn't run anything at Trump University.. he just sold/licensed his name for the most part... to people running an expensive real estate coaching program. That was a bad idea.
I agree, but that won’t stop them from bringing it up.
College w/o the socialist indoctrination???
Solving another problem the the Left claim that they have been trying to.
"He is not a fat pig!"
Big Love for 45.
And Christie is so a fat pig.
u/#kek
Why is it that it looks like his head is superimposed on his body?
Bad lighting
Video compression artifact?
Love this! 💯🎯. The US college education system is a messed up, poorly managed “pay to play” system. For example, if you’re studying to be a doctor, you spend a ton of money to get super indoctrinated into a totally false idea of how to heal people. Then, you have to charge people a ton of money to justify your degree and existence as a “doctor”. Most “doctors” are there for themselves, not for your personal health and well being. Education should not be tied to the economy like it is right now.
is this helpful for a canadian citizen looking to move to US?
Free is one of those common misconceptions. You always get out of any endeavor what you have put into it. This will remove the barrier of money for those that have a desire to get a good education without strapping the monkey on your back of a lifetime of debt. There are students that go to college that have a desire for understanding and knowledge, the rest go for many reasons; few of those reasons are any good. There are quite a few people that have the capability to educate themselves with desire and dedication, unfortunately it requires time and substantial energy. Focused courses provide a gateway to the basics of any subject and provide the framework to continue self education. The courses themselves are basic introduction to the topic and do not provide mastery. Information has been free since the proliferation of the internet. Some have used it to gain an education that is unparalleled at any university. Simply think of the breath and span of information we have all learned here. This forum has been pretty much a university of a huge array of topics and have spawned individual research and discovery that is staggering. The most important aspect is to dig and do your own research to follow where the information leads you, but to use your own logic and reason to find what it means. When this is all done, we are going to need diplomas or something from Q University 😁
I'm sure that President Trump means well, but I think this is a horrible idea.
We should be trying to get the government out of the education system, not adding on to it.
If this plan ever gets implemented, the Dems will use it as a springboard to get ALL colleges and universities involved. Once the government pays for one college/university, it will be impossible to stop people from demanding we pay for ALL of them.
It's a slippery slope. Best that we keep the government out of the education system entirely.
Get degree online. Work and pay for classes as you go.
That could be a cool thing and its appealing to the lefties, but in my opinion, colleges are overpaid and overrated. There are not that many people that really get to utilize that degree that they earn, but they pay back tons of money. One of the most successful people I met never even graduated high school, but he has these a number of college grads working for him.
This sounds like disclosure to me. He is saying he will make information available to all. For free. Comms in everything.
In addition to. I feel like it will all tie together nicely. Perhaps universities are hiding stuff just like our government.
The job market is very inconsistent which is why the young find it hard to find a job even with a degree. From my experience whether you have a degree or not doesn't carry as much weight as who you know to obtain a foot in the door. And companies will bend over backwards to fill quotas. More often than not that is going to be very true with government jobs.
Next, he could revamp the primary school system. I think there is a lot of opportunity to improve the basic schooling while reducing the hours of in classroom. Wouldn't it be better if kids were allowed to be kids again, and only have their youth interrupted for brief lessons in the necessary stuff?
You may react in horror that this will put more pressure on parents to find daycare or sitters, but that is only an issue because of the economic burden. With income tax, inflation, and other financial drains removed, there will no longer be need for 2+ income families. I grew up knowing my mother would be home to greet me at lunch and after school. I can't imagine what damage we're doing to young children's psyches.
I'm interested in how you see us going back to a one-income nuclear family.
Even before inflation was an issue, the majority of Americans still had big money issues. And even if we got rid of income tax, most families wouldn't be able to afford a one-income lifestyle.
Rent and mortgages are the biggest hurdles in the way of families surviving on one income. I'm not sure how we would fix that. You can't force people to give people cheap rent or sell their homes cheaply.
The huge gap between CEOs and business owners and regular employees is the other huge hurdle. Unless we jack up the minimum wage, there's really nothing we can do about that. We can't force companies to not pay their CEOs huge salaries.
Just to give you an idea of how different salaries are now compared to when families were once able to survive on one income:
Today, the average CEO makes around 350x what the company's typical workers make.
In 1965, the CEOs made only 20x what the other employees made.
Our middle class is dying out. Most people are falling to lower class while a select few are rising to upper class.
And I don't see what can be done about it, really. We can't penalize people for wanting to make more money. It's part of the idea of the American Dream.
I think it's possible to remove all the scamminess from the economy and to have a purely merit-based capitalist system. Currently, the most lucrative ventures are the ones tapping in to taxpayer funds. Look at pharma. Look at defense.
The world economy has been used to transfer wealth from working people to the parasites. I just see huge upside potential, but I have no economic plan for how it is going to happen.
Damn. I wish this had happened during his first term. My daughter graduated in May with a bachelors degree in dental hygiene and it wasn’t cheap! Oh well, maybe I can further my education.
I was charged extra by a state ran college system, simply because I didn't live on campus. Raised my tuition by nearly 20% because I had a full-time job, a child, and lived on my own.
Tuition was just over 7k(per semester), I was "taxed" almost an additional 1k because they wouldn't make money off me using their "amenities"
Meanwhile I have a native friend (same state university system), attended college for free for 8 yrs, lived off campus and had even his food paid for. He recieved a master's degree in native studies, he is a 2nd shift supervisor now, and makes 10-20k less than they hourly employees he supervises.
Left after 1st year, 2017, completely indoctrination stations.
How did your friend get his education paid for?
Because a Native man sold their land to a white man, nearly 200 years ago, Happening to be 100% blooded native, mom a nurse dad in prison. Although, he had like 7 other brothers and sisters, they all went for free on the tax payers dime. His mother is one hell of a women however, mad props to her. Especially the town they grew up it, it could of went south real fast for any of them.
Why I left, was going for a business degree, then realized I was already running an entire division of a multimillion dollar business. Left. Time spent on the job learning is much more valuable.
I think that is a smart decision.
Many of us reach a point where we say enough and just move forward. Sometimes obtaining a bachelors or masters is moving forward but not guaranteed its needs to be done.
For me personally I always contemplated going back to obtain my masters but I do not see the benefits outweighing the risks for my situation. So I rather move forward in a different way. For example pay off my home faster and invest/save aggressively.
Maybe if I pay off my home in the future completely I would consider it or a future employer offers to share the cost.
But sometimes what we find out is that in the real world what we thought we needed to land a job is just the fear of our own doing. That is because there are many jobs that say you need X, Y, and Z. And when you fill out so many resumes with little call back it feels like you must obtain more "education". But on the flipside I have walked into jobs with little effort and the requirements were not mandatory at all. Very feast or famine where it is really the luck of the draw sometimes. The frustrating thing about the job market is that I have a STEM degree with experience but companies will bend over backwards to fill quotas. To fill these quotas they waive a lot of experience/education requirements and hand these people six figure jobs. But that is something we are fully aware of on these forums.
Also, why do we have this story that you need to educate people for 20 years before they become useful to society? The lower grades should be gutted and replaced with something much smaller and more flexible