I also lost all mine in a boating accident! What a crazy coincidence! All sank to the bottom of the lake. Sadly. Except my registered handguns. I still have those.
The 120 million man US. Militia is the largest army on Earth. There is No force that can survive an attempt to Rule over America. Once they have caused anarchy, that relieves the American patriot from being Civilized and Forces US to Enforce the Constitution on ALL enemies both foreign and domestic.
While this is all true, the new wrinkle in this equation is the existence of the modern surveillance state. It goes way beyond the wet dreams of the Stasi and Gestapo.
They don't have the manpower to rule all of us, but they have more than enough manpower and tools to take us out a few at a time as we resist on a small scale.
I think that's the wrong take. You have the ability to generate whatever data you want. They have an open collector, which is a huge problem for them, since they can't filter out obviously bad data.
This is not an actual problem to a real belligerent.
I was thinking more along the lines of reconnaissance - satellite, video cameras etc. Licence plate recognition and facial recognition and especially IR.
It's surmountable, but takes a lot of effort to avoid.
When the electricity stops, so do their collection devices, unless they are solar driven. Cut the internet and they are really sunk. I'm not too worried unless there is a knock on my door at 3am. My boat sank, too.
That is where of goal of at least one for one is critical.
Also, the modern surveillance state has replaced the training in old school functions. While more and more compiled data is evaluated by AI, feeding it trash is definitely a must. Additionally, the focus is on watching meta-data, so trying to manually connect the dots on someone "off grid" takes real man power.
I saw one presentation on the Oct 7 Hamas attack, it concluded the ability to keep it secret was based on using zero technology, and the humans were apparently thoroughly vetted, so no meta-data for any AI or human to evaluate.
I remember listening to a retired general speak on a podcast (name escapes me) but he said was all it takes for 2million americans to rise up with guns and they can take over the whole country… and nothing could stop them
this is the real reason j6 scared the deep state so bad. i bet there were 1 million patriots there and they were afraid of what we might have done and arguably should have done.
i remember in The Quiet Man, one of John Wayne's enemies asks if the IRA is involved in a conspiracy against him. one of the Irish coolly responds "If it were, Squire Danahur, not a scorched stone of your fine house would be left standing."
that's how I feel about J6. that was no insurrection, and if it had been nancy pelosi would know.
totally correct too. in the LA riots most of the ground troops in the conus were used to chill out just LA county. we outnumber them by several orders of magnitude. though i wouldn't be any help because also boating accident.
Police are policy enforcers. They enforce the policy of the corporation they work for weather it be the state, county, or city. They usually do not follow the law of the land which has to be inline with the constitution and not infringe upon our God given unalienable rights. The chief of police is usually appointed not elected.
Don't forget state revenue generators too. What do they do more - prevent crime ( lol ) or ticket ? It's why they have quotas and we have " law books " thicker than the bible that even lawyers can't understand.
Another reminder...we know where they live. We know their families, their kids...ugly thoughts. But when it comes to deterrence...it’s on the table. They have to go to work. Or not...
The subjugators need to have a life in the subjugated land. They have their wife and children, siblings and parents, etc.
They need to police their local community, where everyone knows who they are.
Let's say John is a corrupt police officer. He spends his day implementing tyranny on his local community.
His entire family would be shunned. He would fear his car tires would be slashed as he sleeps. People may not even confront him directly, they could confront his family members.
They're not going 1 vs 1 with him while he's at his job. Nope. They'll kick his door in at 2 in the morning or just burn his house down.
I've tried to tell a few people this fact, but no one seems to have the sense to understand.
A military attacking its own people will have it's supply lines cut off immediately. Not one that those pilots and machine gun operators have to sleep, and they have to land / take off. There are so many points of vulnerability that they could not cover them all against millions of armed citizens.
Even back in WWII the Japanese knew that an invasion onto American soil would be suicide. It would be worse if you were trying to take over the country that is supplying your army with its bare essentials.
They don't need guns or people. They have the internet and media. They've controlled most of us our entire lives with just those 2 things. They captured people's minds.
Another thing to consider is that if such a thing were to happen, there are probably many international groups who would LOVE to provide weapons to the general public.
Think of Afghanistan, we slipped them weapons when they were fighting the Soviets.
Don't you think Mr. Putin or Xi, wouldn't love to import weaponry to a civilian uprising on US soil? I would even be Mexico would love to get in that game. Make no mistake, if such a thing were to happen, civilians would not be alone for long.
The logic is sound. Too bad I lost all my guns in that boating accident.
A duck stole mine. It just swam up and grabbed it. I think it robbed a goose the other day.
Those crazy
Mutha Duckers !!
They're simply Quackers !!
I keep imagining all these lakes everywhere lined with weapons on the bottom.
same
I also lost all mine in a boating accident! What a crazy coincidence! All sank to the bottom of the lake. Sadly. Except my registered handguns. I still have those.
So many of us made the mistake of going out on the lake with weapons to protect ourselves from the fish. And now the fish have all our guns...
The 120 million man US. Militia is the largest army on Earth. There is No force that can survive an attempt to Rule over America. Once they have caused anarchy, that relieves the American patriot from being Civilized and Forces US to Enforce the Constitution on ALL enemies both foreign and domestic.
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A rifle behind every blade of grass, was an understatement.
While this is all true, the new wrinkle in this equation is the existence of the modern surveillance state. It goes way beyond the wet dreams of the Stasi and Gestapo.
They don't have the manpower to rule all of us, but they have more than enough manpower and tools to take us out a few at a time as we resist on a small scale.
I think that's the wrong take. You have the ability to generate whatever data you want. They have an open collector, which is a huge problem for them, since they can't filter out obviously bad data.
This is not an actual problem to a real belligerent.
as an anon who enthusiastically feeds big data a bunch of bullshit, i agree with this.
lol. Ditto. I'm an epic troll. Especially when i know they are paying attention
I was thinking more along the lines of reconnaissance - satellite, video cameras etc. Licence plate recognition and facial recognition and especially IR.
It's surmountable, but takes a lot of effort to avoid.
When the electricity stops, so do their collection devices, unless they are solar driven. Cut the internet and they are really sunk. I'm not too worried unless there is a knock on my door at 3am. My boat sank, too.
That is where of goal of at least one for one is critical.
Also, the modern surveillance state has replaced the training in old school functions. While more and more compiled data is evaluated by AI, feeding it trash is definitely a must. Additionally, the focus is on watching meta-data, so trying to manually connect the dots on someone "off grid" takes real man power.
I saw one presentation on the Oct 7 Hamas attack, it concluded the ability to keep it secret was based on using zero technology, and the humans were apparently thoroughly vetted, so no meta-data for any AI or human to evaluate.
I remember listening to a retired general speak on a podcast (name escapes me) but he said was all it takes for 2million americans to rise up with guns and they can take over the whole country… and nothing could stop them
this is the real reason j6 scared the deep state so bad. i bet there were 1 million patriots there and they were afraid of what we might have done and arguably should have done. i remember in The Quiet Man, one of John Wayne's enemies asks if the IRA is involved in a conspiracy against him. one of the Irish coolly responds "If it were, Squire Danahur, not a scorched stone of your fine house would be left standing." that's how I feel about J6. that was no insurrection, and if it had been nancy pelosi would know.
LEO : Citizen ratio is 1:300.
that refreshing 4chan verbiage. 🤣
totally correct too. in the LA riots most of the ground troops in the conus were used to chill out just LA county. we outnumber them by several orders of magnitude. though i wouldn't be any help because also boating accident.
“Police” are supposed to pledge allegiance to the Constitution. No?
Sheriffs, not police.
Police are policy enforcers. They enforce the policy of the corporation they work for weather it be the state, county, or city. They usually do not follow the law of the land which has to be inline with the constitution and not infringe upon our God given unalienable rights. The chief of police is usually appointed not elected.
Sheriffs and us marshals are a different story.
Don't forget state revenue generators too. What do they do more - prevent crime ( lol ) or ticket ? It's why they have quotas and we have " law books " thicker than the bible that even lawyers can't understand.
Agreed
Another reminder...we know where they live. We know their families, their kids...ugly thoughts. But when it comes to deterrence...it’s on the table. They have to go to work. Or not...
There's another element to it too ...
The subjugators need to have a life in the subjugated land. They have their wife and children, siblings and parents, etc.
They need to police their local community, where everyone knows who they are.
Let's say John is a corrupt police officer. He spends his day implementing tyranny on his local community.
His entire family would be shunned. He would fear his car tires would be slashed as he sleeps. People may not even confront him directly, they could confront his family members.
They're not going 1 vs 1 with him while he's at his job. Nope. They'll kick his door in at 2 in the morning or just burn his house down.
335,000k ... US pop (2022)
...... 708k ... US sworn officers (2022)
"You can always take one with you."
YEP...the lake swallowed them all when I was moving them to my hunting camp!!
I love when people still use the R word. Retarded!!!! I said it!!!
TIL Reddit bans you for saying it.
I've tried to tell a few people this fact, but no one seems to have the sense to understand.
A military attacking its own people will have it's supply lines cut off immediately. Not one that those pilots and machine gun operators have to sleep, and they have to land / take off. There are so many points of vulnerability that they could not cover them all against millions of armed citizens.
Even back in WWII the Japanese knew that an invasion onto American soil would be suicide. It would be worse if you were trying to take over the country that is supplying your army with its bare essentials.
How do you defeat the largest Air Force in the world? On the ground. The largest Army? In garrison. Navy? In port.
We’ll always need boots on the ground.
And rulers want to rule over living people. Not glass parking lots. The best way to rule is to have people mentally ruling themselves.
And BarryGirl failed in the gun grab
Well, “he” told ‘em.
They don't need guns or people. They have the internet and media. They've controlled most of us our entire lives with just those 2 things. They captured people's minds.
Another thing to consider is that if such a thing were to happen, there are probably many international groups who would LOVE to provide weapons to the general public.
Think of Afghanistan, we slipped them weapons when they were fighting the Soviets.
Don't you think Mr. Putin or Xi, wouldn't love to import weaponry to a civilian uprising on US soil? I would even be Mexico would love to get in that game. Make no mistake, if such a thing were to happen, civilians would not be alone for long.