This is a Steve Kirsch 4 part post on X concerning vaccines in pets:
I got this message from a fellow MIT alum just now. The tl;dr is that vaccines are NOT safe to give to pets.
Hey, on an entirely different note, I thought I might tell you about our Veterinarian, who has a lot of information on Vaccines. Because of his and my stance on vax in general, we decided to go have dinner together back in 2021. I learned a lot from him at the time because veterinary medicine is not nearly as "bought" by big pharma and MSM as human medicine -- remember, almost everyone pays themselves, no insurance, there is less money involved, and the doctor circuit is much tighter and they share notes: No HIPAA issues. Here are a few of the things I learned:
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He is legally obligated to give rabies vaccines. However, most vets don't know that you can test dogs for the rabies antigens from last year's vax, and if they have the antigens, he can write down that the titer is high, and he can wait another year.
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vets have discovered that vaxed dogs are much more likely to get cancer in the area vaxxed, usually the shoulder. He now (and for years) gives the vax in the tail of the dog -- that way, if cancer develops, the tail can be amputated without issues, vs the shoulder which is problematic.
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There are many other vaxes for dogs, with similar impacts. He avoids them unless insisted upon by the owner, and if so, goes in the tail.
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this has been known for YEARS. It's not new. It's been covered up like everything else. But, check this article out regarding a study at Purdue University where they SHOWED and PROVED issues by studying vaxxed vs un-vaxxed dogs:
https://www.dogsnaturallymagazine.com/purdue-vaccination-studies/
Please heed this. Vaxx situation for pets is getting worse and worse. It's doing to them what it does to people, causing cancer, organ failure and and cognitive issues. Remember the recent mystery epidemic of illness causing rapid onset respiratory failure and death in dogs. It happened when they rolled out the new mRNA kennel cough vaxx. Not very baffling. My fam has had a rescue sanctuary for decades. Also we can add 2 plus 2.
I laughed in my vet's face when she insisted on giving my dog a flu vaccine and never returned.
A vet talked me into giving my horse a rabies vaccine 2+ decades ago. Within 2 months, she had developed a giant sarcoid skin tumor between her legs. I consulted with a naturopathic vet, who said she treated for this all the time; vaccine caused sarcoids (particularly the rabies vaccine). No more vax for my animals. At that time, I did the vax deep dive.... and learned the truth.
For 2+ decades, I have vaccinated none of my animals; dogs, cats, horses. All have been living long & healthy lives. Except one; a cat I adopted, who came with the full boat of vax including rabies. She died at 3 years old of kidney disease.
Looking back on it, I honestly think that conditioning people to vaccinate their pets constantly was "compliance training" for their plan to force vaccinate all humans.
That's funny. I got into a dustup with my brother during covid, when he requested that only jabbed family members attend Christmas dinner at his place. To make his point, he said "It's just like if you took your dog to a dog park. You wouldn't let them run around and play with an unvaccinated dog." Has anyone ever asked for vax proof for other peoples' dogs!?
I will be lying to the town officials when it comes time to license my Sheppie, she is in palliative care, 14 years old, not suffering, pain and seizures and cancer controlled, but it is day by day, I will just tell them she passed. The vet knows I have stopped all vaccinations and is fine with it. The cost of the Titer Test for antibodies is prohibitive, at least at her Vet's office, several hundred dollars. She does not go outdoors unless I am with her, her ratting days have long been over, she is just my old friend who has aged with me and her aging has accelerated, being a dog and all. She was a rescue, her seizures are from abuse, being kicked in the head, her arthritis is just something that happens but she still skips a beat when she sees snow or someone walking the fence line along the road, I have to supervise her because she forgets herself, and then gives me a sigh and the stink eye when I do not let her run and hurt herself. In my state, all dogs are required to be liscensed and all dogs have to have a rabies shot to get liscensed. The town would have the right to take her from me, so, Lord forgive me but I will not be honest about having her when it comes time to register. 14 is old for a Sheppie and she will not go out getting poked to prevent something that will not happen.
Seriously, it is time to break unrighteous laws. Long past time, actually. They have no authority over us when they are unjust.
Thank you for posting this information.
We had 4 cats. Two died after their last vaccination. One suddenly had diabetes and the other went into heart failure.
Haven't been vaccinating the remaining two cats, as they're indoor cats anyway.
Injection site, previously on the neck, were getting too many tumors, so they switched it to the hind quarters. Take note, when you pet your, or a friend's, old dog how often they have benign fatty tumors on the rear end now.
Our 19 1/2 year old chihuahua had 2 of these fatty tumors removed and they came back.
My 13yr old husky (14now todays his birthday)had 1 removed in December it was near his pelvis and had a tumor removed near his butthole week before last (tests haven’t came back what kind it was) he hasn’t had shots since his 1st year. I’m also pretty sure that spay and neutering negatively affects them too. My husky outside of some arthritis and those removals has been perfectly healthy (still intact) I had to put my chihuahua down last year as she started having a ton of health problems, quit eating etc(also no shots since her first year). If she was spayed.
We had 4 dogs and none of them had any shots after the first year. They were never boarded anywhere, we had dog sitters come to the house when we were out of town. I cooked all their meals and dog treats too
My chiahuahua had a “cyst” removed ($$$) on his belly that bled profusely. It was like to a hemorrhage and literallly was flipping me out. That dog was so miserable I was dying inside thinking we were gonna have to put him down 😞 They did however remove it, stitched him up and boom, he’s fixed.
But, I can’t figure out what the heck happened and why. Now, he eats grain free food, distilled water and I regularly give him IVERMECTIN and his own little serrapeptase pill every night 😂 No more bags of mystery food (treats) we feed him real meat. I just wish he would try to communicate with me other than intensely staring at me 😳
Them chihuahuas go the distance, don't they? My buddy just lost his at, I think, twenty-one. I wish yours many healthy years to come. Dogs are so very special.
Lots of reproductive and bladder cancers, too. Our beloved German Shepherd had advanced bladder cancer and we had to ease her pain & let her go far too soon.
THANK YOU THANK YOU !!!!! I have been trying to get this word out for years, even before Covid there are actually good vets who will give you the syringes of the vax because they cover yhrmselves legally , they charge you and fill out your VAX card , give you the Syringes because “you are going to do the injections yourself…. yeah right ! right into the trash. Vet offices are popping up faster than Rabbits in the spring
All my pets are illegal aliens. They don't have to get the stuff citizen pets get.
I need vets like Steve's vet!!!
One of my horses, a 26 year old Mustang who I am fostering, reacts to shots in her neck. Swollen, and can't reach down to eat for several days. The vet's response is to give her an anti-inflammatory, Banamine.
This year as usual, the vet arrives and warns me about Cushings for this mare. One of the big no-goes for equine metabolic issues is to forego vaccines. (My friend's Cushings horse has issues after vax.) The other, no Banamine. Has she mentioned that? No.
Last month it was time for her rabies. An hour after the vet was there she was flat on her side. I had the vet come back, By then the mare was up. The vet's suggestion? Banamine. And no, she's not going to report it to the manufacturer; it's a normal reaction.
The rescue has agreed -- no more rabies shots. And besides, studies are clear that the effective lasts at a minimum for 3 years.
I am also in the dog house with my horse vet for enlisting the help of a natural balance dentist, rather that their power saw approach. With a shortage of horse vets I don't want to lose her, but I need to do what I know is right for my mares!
Just put my dogs on raw and am about to stop any more vax on my cats in their teens. Here we go with the small animal vet -- who comes to my house -- as well.
Before I knew anything about how bad vaccines were I had a toy poodle puppy who was rabies vaxxed when he was only 2 lbs and he had a reaction to it. I didn't realize it right away but did notice the area on his back hip was purplish afterwards. then his ears puffed up and it looked like someone had stitched the edges up. A month later all the fur in the area of the injection fell out and never grew back. The poor baby was always having issues with allergies. Now I know these were vax related.
A year later I mentioned it to my vet so she gave him benedryl before hand and I waited an hour in her waiting room to make sure he didn't have another reaction. I asked her to give it to him in the same area since he had already lost his hair there
That night his whole leg turned purplish again. But he did not have any other symptoms that I remember.
The following year bc of his size and reactions he was rabies vaccine exempt. I was told to make sure my cat was still vaxxed.
When I moved to the South where they actually have rabies in the area I was told if my dog didn't have any rabies vax and he was to bite any of her staff he would be placed either in quarantine or killed by decision of the local animal authorities.
After that I left her office and went to see a holistic vet. He said we could still make him rabies exempt but I asked to have him given the rabies so noone would decide to kill him if he nipped anyone. (He was snappy when he was hurt or when he was in my arms). So this vet gave him a tiny bit (not the state recommended amount) of a different variety of rabies shot after my dog was given another shot of benedryl.
He also told me many small dogs end up having issues with the rabies shots bc they give the same amount of rabies to a two pound pup that they give to a hundred pound pup.
We decided to alternate his rabies every other year. He also said even if he was exposed to a bat or any other animal with rabies even if vaccinated for rabies he would be required to take another rabies vaccine. My baby died at age 16 from Congested heart failure.
In addition, this Vet told me my cat who was elderly by the time we got there would no longer need any more rabies vaccines since she had had so many up until that time. Along with other shots.
Now I only give rabies to my other cats annually. I refuse all other vaccines for them as they are indoor kitties only When kittens they had some of the other vaccines but only a one time deal. I will be stopping the rabies shots when they turn ten years old.
One of my dogs developed Addison's Disease when he was around 5 years old, just out of nowhere, it seemed. Now I realize that it was about 6 months after I had him vaccinated for rabies when I was helping my Mom out and living at her house.
Money is the root of all evil
That is actually a misquote - "For the love of money is the root of all evil".
O Jays - For the Love of Money
True; I didn't put the whole verse in you are correct. 1 Timothy 6:10 for the love of money is the root of all kinds of evils. I read out of ESV but as you likely know every word (and Iota) matters so important to clarify that fren Thank you.
Wouldn’t be surprised if the amped signal on this was from patriots to get people to pay attention faster with their pets than with their children…
sigh.
That said, I didn’t want to get my pets vaccinated recently, thinking this exact thing, but unlike with humans I don’t know any alternatives yet.
Exactly...the law requires you to have your dog vaccinated against rabies. If you have cats, most rescues will not let you adopt a dog until verification all cats are "up to date" .
I've stopped taking my cats to the vet for this very reason. Quite frankly if indoor, what's the point. But you'll be shamed for not caring for your animals if you take this approach. Money money money...
I tried to get two rescue kitties and was denied for that reason... I had no history of vaccinations on my previous pets.., so OF COURSE they think I won't be a good kitty mom.
This is the issues we have had for months (mostly last year) with our pup, he just turned 2 in March. White bumps all over his body, sores on paws (in between his toes & bottoms of paws), sores all around his mouth (lips and chin), and sometimes would get massive hives all over his body (totally different than the white bumps).
We have finally got him looking & feeling better, with taking them off of dog food and making the pups (we have 2 dogs) food ourselves and giving the pups supplements but started up again recently getting the white bumps again and his chin is getting sores again. Vets say it's either seasonal or food allergies, but they haven't been able to help him at all. Steroids helps some but doesn't take them away and don't want him on steroids so much. Our other pups paws have been itching pretty bad lately since spring has hit. So maybe it is seasonal allergies, but there has to be something we can do to keep them from having such bad reactions. We do give them Benadryl but it doesn't work that well, and they are big dogs so they need like 3-4 pills at least 2x a day.
We haven't given them any vaxxes in a while since we found out that they aren't good for them. But when my husband took each one in about a year ago, they were given the flu vaxx. I was pissed when I found out. Haven't had anything since, and no other shots in over a year at least.
I haven't given our pups any heartworm (or other worm) preventative all winter. However, we live in the south and they need something. Does anyone know of what is safe to give them? I've wanted to give them ivermectin for heartworm preventative but can't find a doctor willing to give me a good dosage for our pups sizes (either they act like they don't know about it or act like it's not good for them), and another preventative for other types of worms.
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Aren't ivermectin and fenbendazole the total antiparasitic combo?
I buy the horse paste of Ivermectin and give it according to weight. Fortunately he is over 50 lbs as the paste is set to give in 50lb segments. You might want to consider Fenbendazole-comes in doggie dose sizes.
I have known this for decades. A revolution of truthful information is sorely needed and the medical/veterinary ghouls need to be neutered. They have way too much power.
My dog had thyroid cancer. Not sure what caused it although Apoquel for allergies is known to cause cancer and she was on it. She is doing fine now but it’s very rare for dogs to get this and the takeaway for me is-get the annual blood work if your dog takes any meds or received vaccinations. It saved her life since they caught it early. I regret giving her Apoquel but she has such severe allergies in the summer, not sure what I’m going to do this year.
She also almost died from the kennel cough vax. Bordetella and the emergency vet said her dog also almost died. But they force you to take it if you have to board the dog!
Same and sometimes the dog needs to be boarded so you go with it
Right. I’ve never boarded her but a lot of people have to and even doggy daycare situations they want it. It’s a horrible vax.
Our family lost two dogs within a year to cancer, both under 9 years old and should have lived to 13+. If only we’d known this sooner.
What's funny is. We participate in 4h which in our state is basically run by Purdue. Yet they continue to require loads of jabs for all our pets and horses that are being shown.