Taxes (edit: income taxes) are 100% voluntary. We are tricked from birth into participating in their crooked legalistic scam. Our rights and the consequences of the contracts we make with the government are never fully disclosed which constitutes fraud and because of that you can exit these contracts also including taxes. You think truth is buried about 9/11, sham elections, pedo island, etc. but the depths those are buried under cannot hold a candle to the scam of how deep the truth about what is public vs private are buried. The government tricks us into taking ourselves out of the private and not just participating in the public during our choosing but making us live our lives publicly in corporate commerce. The truth is out there and will set you free if you can find it and expend the energy it takes to use it to remove yourself from fraudulent government contracts. Good luck. I know the truth but do not, at the moment, have the time or energy to use as many of my peers have.
The truth is out there and will set you free if you can find it and expend the energy it takes to use it to remove yourself from fraudulent government contracts.
You CAN NOT IN WIN A CROOKED , CORUPT Game/System. The System must be reset to TRUTH ONLY.
The word kleptocracy, as I first learned of it, was attributed to one of the more popular ancient Greek philosophers. I do not recall which one specifically however, and now it seems that the internet search engines want to feign ignorance, and obscure the true word origin for some odd reason. But as far as I know, it's from ancient Greek philosophy.
Only 68 but with you all the way why is it people our age were working at 15? By the time these lazy ass kids move out from mommy and daddy we all were married with kids and a damn mortgage..
Nowadays it is generally not possible to afford a house without going into exorbitant debt at the age you guys did. My grandparents bought their current house in full for about $55k around 1970 or so in their late 20's. That same amount is equal to $442k today. I have no idea what their present property value is. I'm just a few years younger than they were then, and I currently have $1,532.53 in my bank account because my fucking $1,439/mo rent just got paid on the 1st (that's how much it is around here now unless you want a shithole crack den to live in). Oh, and since I'm moving out next month, my unit is currently listed as available starting in July for over $1,600/mo.
Also, moving out the minute you turn 18 is a purely American thing. In many, probably most, other countries, often multiple generations live in the same home. That's not saying that young people in other countries are lazy, they're still working, bringing in an income, etc. Instead, their income goes towards upkeeping the house and taking care of their parents/grandparents.
With that being said, I had to move out of my family's home out of necessity. If I hadn't had to, I probably would still be there. But after years of living on my own, I realize how nice it is to have a place to myself and privacy, albeit I'm very lonely because I live alone and none of my family ever comes out to visit or even expresses interest in wanting to. However, next month I'm moving back closer to them, though. Still having to rent, nowhere near affording a home, but I got a special deal through a friend of the family I couldn't pass up.
In any case, there's benefits to staying at home yet still being a working adult and moving out.
True, houses worth roughly that price in the 60s-80s are now worth almost 600K+.
Building your own doesn't even seem nearly as viable anymore even with a loan, because property taxes get to be as fluid as a leftist's definition of sex.
It's many levels of horse shit.
As for "children today being lazy", I don't necessarily believe that's true and I believe that it was quantified quite eloquently the other day:
Most people aren't lazy, they just lack motivation.
I think that is especially true today; schools don't prepare children, we are in a transitional era of automation where we saw a shift towards programming, IT, etc. and then we are seeing a shift away due to complex algorithmic AI.
Customer service jobs? All of them are becoming AI focused, and that's after much of it was outsourced to Bangladesh.
Manufacturing for basically every industry is overseas.
We are even seeing a greater rate of 3D printed housing, how long until that takes over much of the hard work that laborers have been doing for years?
Youths lack motivation and direction, and between the social maneuvering they have to do (an INSANE amount of it!) and the difficulty in opportunities to apply skills, I can see why that is.
Everyone can't get involved in a trade skill either; the industry cannot sustain such a massive injection of workers all colliding into the same jobs and roles.
It is sorely destructive to have so many jobs given to illegals and overseas wage slaves who work for nothing during a time of so much industry breaking change.
I'm 34. My grandpa who died late last year was in his 80s. He was able to afford a 3 story house with 5 acres and support his 5 kids, and wife who didn't work on a maintenance man's salary. He bought his house for 70K in the 70s and it just sold for close to 300K. I've been working since I was 14, I don't have nearly the wealth that my parents, or their parents had at the same age. Starting a family is a lot harder than in the past as well due to social media and dating apps. Although I'm married now, I had a hell of a time finding someone.
It is the plan to make each generation poorer than the last until it all falls apart. 2 jobs plus my wife works - barely making ends meet... I feel your pain.
I'm curious as to why his house was sold as opposed to passing it down? Was it that the family couldn't agree to anything else? I have the sense that in the old days, those things were passed down. It was expected that they would be passed down. They somehow got us to accept selling off the old things & buying new ones. With almost every house sold the bank makes money. Even if your relatives charged you a "mortgage" it would be better to give it to them than to the bank / Fed reserve system
Sorry, fren. yeah that's often the case. If we were not as badly oppressed with taxes & the Fed's money scheme, money wouldn't have been so tight for both your Mom to fix it up & 4 her siblings to need more cash. I am terribly sorry but not very surprised, something like that is almost always the case. :/
Yes indeed! Not only did I start working at 15 but my father "sold" me the old family car for $600. It was a Chevy Biscayne, 6 cylinder w/3 on the column! I never even considered that he should just give me the old car. Years later when I was ready to purchase my 1st house I "borrowed" $5000 from him for the down payment. Now get this: he charged me interest!!
Long term solution is going to hurt, flat out. An immediate payout of any amount paid in, with an immediate closure of the program.
We can't keep living in a country where the same thing is used as a political platform for decades. It needs to stop, and no better time like that present.
They talk about the social security trust fund going broke all the time, but if it was to be paid out to all beneficiaries, they’d get something like $45,000-$90,000 each, because Congress raided it years ago, as all governments do with ”trust” funds. (Nothing against trusts themselves, but governments can’t manage them). The majority of social security payouts are made from present receipts, and the trust fund is more like a small rotating buffer account than an actual fund.
It’ll definitely hurt to close it out, and people are going to find out that their “retirement savings” was a money laundering slush fund, their trust was in error, and they should have been more skeptical and paying better attention. (IRA’s could potentially end up going the same way.)
There may be ways to soften the blow for some people, and they’ll need to be voluntary and highly auditable, but overall, having assets to mitigate the bankruptcy and children to soften what’s left are the only two paths that seem available as a whole.
That said, it’ll be nice to restore family unity and the intergenerational dependencies and connections that we’ve allowed to be broken, and there may be a way to do it that’s a bit softer that what I expect. We’ll see.
I had a job at 15 also lol. McDonalds on the weekends. We weren't allowed to work on school nights. All our energy was needed for SCHOOL. But a part time job was needed for MONEY! Mom stayed at home with us and Dad worked. There was little extra money so my parents answer was work lol.
If real inflation is 8% (it’s higher), and you try to save wealth in dollars. If you save 10,000 a year, by year 10 (where you’ve saved a sum of $100,000) you’re losing almost all of your savings to inflation every year (8% of $100,000 being $8,000). By year 12, you must increase your savings rate to keep ahead in real value.
This is why people are forced into the stock market to seek returns. The alternatives are to grow real assets, seek returns on cash, etc.
Growing real assets is a rigged game, because the cabal uses their printing presses to pick winners and losers by handing out favorable loans and subsidies. They may not win in year 1, year 5, or even year 40, but over time through lower money costs and favorable legislation, they will continually tilt the table in their favor.
Bank interest is lower than inflation, by definition. Inflation is created by bank profits. They pay a portion to keep people playing, but never the total.
The stock market inevitably ends up increasingly funding the cabal, which increases their ability to take over markets.
I believe a solution to this is coming, but don’t claim to know what that solution is.
Right, we didn't have a MIC, NSA, CIA, a runaway DoE, State Dept and DoD and all the agencies that siphon money either. Land was more valuable than money. Most businesses were community or privately funded, and there were strict immigration controls (compared to what we have today). So much has changed.
income taxes are necessary to pay back the interest on the fiat printed out of thin air & "borrowed" from the private federal reserve, duhhh .. sarcasm
income taxes are a scam & a surefire way to tell who the slaves are & who aren't. there is no other reason, it's that simple.
the vast majority of people think income taxes go to schools & roads... the others just think "duurr, i don't know... i just don't wanna go to prison"
i keep telling people... this Great Awakening will fast forward when people stop paying income taxes.
Just tell them to take a drive from a state with lower taxes to a state with higher taxes. It is almost always the case that the state with higher taxes has worse roads. The more the taxes to more rats they need to feed in the govt the less money there is for roads.
If even 10% of people filled out their forms with as many allowances and dependents as possible, then opted to not pay in when the bill is due, it would be a mega troll to fiat
Yep , right after the Republic FAILED for lack of a quorum . And President Hiram Grant went right along with no reconstruction of that Government after the fighting ended ( no treaty for a non-declared conflict).
And don't forget the thousands who died protecting us.....our Military Veterans. Does anyone know the exact number (though I suspect it far more than anything they report) of men and women who died during all those wars. How many American Patriots did we lose. I bet it is close to the number of illegals biden has let cross the border here in Texas and I think that number is 1.7 million.
Come on anons, dig, dig and dig deep for those answers. We are waiting.
Taxation is not theft. It's part of the bargain we make as citizens. Don't want to pay taxes, renounce that citizenship. Otherwise, I agree with everything you said.
It's hardly a bargain when you are taxed every which way for every act you do.
How is it a "bargain" to buy a plot of land, spend my own money to build up the land (paying taxes on every piece of lumber, of grain of concrete, every strand of wire), and then have my overall property taxes get raised because I made improvements myself?
How is it that I can work all my life to finally reach a point where I am being paid a nice enough sum to enjoy my life, but I get taxed at greater percentages to equalize my ability to live my life with a gender studies 22 year old?
How is that a bargain?
If you think that's a bargain, then I have this sick ass plot of land to sell you under your local highway.
Flat out wrong. It's not a "bargain" we made. It was imposed upon us. Taxation without representation was the whole reason behind the founding of the USA. If the last few years have taught us anything, it is that WE haven't had a voice in anything that has happened. The cabal has engineered all of this, using fraudulent means as necessary, and they do it for their own benefit.
If you want to pay egregiously high taxes to a corrupt, satanic cabal, that is your choice. By all means keep doing it. But the rest of us don't. This is our country, and we're taking it back.
The IRS likes to blur history a bit. The income tax was instituted as part of the Tariff of 1909 on certain businesses. It was extended in the Tariff of 1913 to include "individuals". They play word games to make you think it applies where it doesn't.
Most Americans didn't start paying the tax until "withholding" started to help pay for WWII during the "victory tax", which was voluntary. That's also around the time they instituted Social Security. Lots more I could add, but I just wanted to point out that it really started before 1913.
Income taxes are necessary because our govt. is a kleptocracy. Duh.
Taxes (edit: income taxes) are 100% voluntary. We are tricked from birth into participating in their crooked legalistic scam. Our rights and the consequences of the contracts we make with the government are never fully disclosed which constitutes fraud and because of that you can exit these contracts also including taxes. You think truth is buried about 9/11, sham elections, pedo island, etc. but the depths those are buried under cannot hold a candle to the scam of how deep the truth about what is public vs private are buried. The government tricks us into taking ourselves out of the private and not just participating in the public during our choosing but making us live our lives publicly in corporate commerce. The truth is out there and will set you free if you can find it and expend the energy it takes to use it to remove yourself from fraudulent government contracts. Good luck. I know the truth but do not, at the moment, have the time or energy to use as many of my peers have.
You CAN NOT IN WIN A CROOKED , CORUPT Game/System. The System must be reset to TRUTH ONLY.
Added a nice elaboration
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I love the word! Is this coined by you?
It dates back to at least 1819.
I wonder why no one uses it? The Kleptarchs police language?
The word kleptocracy, as I first learned of it, was attributed to one of the more popular ancient Greek philosophers. I do not recall which one specifically however, and now it seems that the internet search engines want to feign ignorance, and obscure the true word origin for some odd reason. But as far as I know, it's from ancient Greek philosophy.
Yes - I've thought about that. I'm 71! Been working since I was 15 - paying into SS since 15.
Only 68 but with you all the way why is it people our age were working at 15? By the time these lazy ass kids move out from mommy and daddy we all were married with kids and a damn mortgage..
Nowadays it is generally not possible to afford a house without going into exorbitant debt at the age you guys did. My grandparents bought their current house in full for about $55k around 1970 or so in their late 20's. That same amount is equal to $442k today. I have no idea what their present property value is. I'm just a few years younger than they were then, and I currently have $1,532.53 in my bank account because my fucking $1,439/mo rent just got paid on the 1st (that's how much it is around here now unless you want a shithole crack den to live in). Oh, and since I'm moving out next month, my unit is currently listed as available starting in July for over $1,600/mo.
Also, moving out the minute you turn 18 is a purely American thing. In many, probably most, other countries, often multiple generations live in the same home. That's not saying that young people in other countries are lazy, they're still working, bringing in an income, etc. Instead, their income goes towards upkeeping the house and taking care of their parents/grandparents.
With that being said, I had to move out of my family's home out of necessity. If I hadn't had to, I probably would still be there. But after years of living on my own, I realize how nice it is to have a place to myself and privacy, albeit I'm very lonely because I live alone and none of my family ever comes out to visit or even expresses interest in wanting to. However, next month I'm moving back closer to them, though. Still having to rent, nowhere near affording a home, but I got a special deal through a friend of the family I couldn't pass up.
In any case, there's benefits to staying at home yet still being a working adult and moving out.
True, houses worth roughly that price in the 60s-80s are now worth almost 600K+.
Building your own doesn't even seem nearly as viable anymore even with a loan, because property taxes get to be as fluid as a leftist's definition of sex.
It's many levels of horse shit.
As for "children today being lazy", I don't necessarily believe that's true and I believe that it was quantified quite eloquently the other day:
Most people aren't lazy, they just lack motivation.
I think that is especially true today; schools don't prepare children, we are in a transitional era of automation where we saw a shift towards programming, IT, etc. and then we are seeing a shift away due to complex algorithmic AI.
Customer service jobs? All of them are becoming AI focused, and that's after much of it was outsourced to Bangladesh.
Manufacturing for basically every industry is overseas.
We are even seeing a greater rate of 3D printed housing, how long until that takes over much of the hard work that laborers have been doing for years?
Youths lack motivation and direction, and between the social maneuvering they have to do (an INSANE amount of it!) and the difficulty in opportunities to apply skills, I can see why that is.
Everyone can't get involved in a trade skill either; the industry cannot sustain such a massive injection of workers all colliding into the same jobs and roles.
It is sorely destructive to have so many jobs given to illegals and overseas wage slaves who work for nothing during a time of so much industry breaking change.
I'm 34. My grandpa who died late last year was in his 80s. He was able to afford a 3 story house with 5 acres and support his 5 kids, and wife who didn't work on a maintenance man's salary. He bought his house for 70K in the 70s and it just sold for close to 300K. I've been working since I was 14, I don't have nearly the wealth that my parents, or their parents had at the same age. Starting a family is a lot harder than in the past as well due to social media and dating apps. Although I'm married now, I had a hell of a time finding someone.
It is the plan to make each generation poorer than the last until it all falls apart. 2 jobs plus my wife works - barely making ends meet... I feel your pain.
Yeah man, total bullshit lol. I'm ready for it all to fall apart
The intention is that father and mother work all day, and thus the government with its system will be in charge of indoctrinating the children.
Then that Grandparents are taxed harder to ensure they can not enrich the family. If taxes don't take the wealth, the medicine tax will...
Poorer in every respect, nor just financially. It's insane.
I'm curious as to why his house was sold as opposed to passing it down? Was it that the family couldn't agree to anything else? I have the sense that in the old days, those things were passed down. It was expected that they would be passed down. They somehow got us to accept selling off the old things & buying new ones. With almost every house sold the bank makes money. Even if your relatives charged you a "mortgage" it would be better to give it to them than to the bank / Fed reserve system
My parents couldn't afford to fix it, and my mom's siblings wanted some money from what I gathered.
Sorry, fren. yeah that's often the case. If we were not as badly oppressed with taxes & the Fed's money scheme, money wouldn't have been so tight for both your Mom to fix it up & 4 her siblings to need more cash. I am terribly sorry but not very surprised, something like that is almost always the case. :/
One of my younger cousins is only 4 years older than I and is already a grandfather.
Yes indeed! Not only did I start working at 15 but my father "sold" me the old family car for $600. It was a Chevy Biscayne, 6 cylinder w/3 on the column! I never even considered that he should just give me the old car. Years later when I was ready to purchase my 1st house I "borrowed" $5000 from him for the down payment. Now get this: he charged me interest!!
I fully believe that the long term solution to social security is going to come from the Bible.
Dunno what else could do it.
“Honor thy father and mother.”
Long term solution is going to hurt, flat out. An immediate payout of any amount paid in, with an immediate closure of the program.
We can't keep living in a country where the same thing is used as a political platform for decades. It needs to stop, and no better time like that present.
They talk about the social security trust fund going broke all the time, but if it was to be paid out to all beneficiaries, they’d get something like $45,000-$90,000 each, because Congress raided it years ago, as all governments do with ”trust” funds. (Nothing against trusts themselves, but governments can’t manage them). The majority of social security payouts are made from present receipts, and the trust fund is more like a small rotating buffer account than an actual fund.
It’ll definitely hurt to close it out, and people are going to find out that their “retirement savings” was a money laundering slush fund, their trust was in error, and they should have been more skeptical and paying better attention. (IRA’s could potentially end up going the same way.)
There may be ways to soften the blow for some people, and they’ll need to be voluntary and highly auditable, but overall, having assets to mitigate the bankruptcy and children to soften what’s left are the only two paths that seem available as a whole.
That said, it’ll be nice to restore family unity and the intergenerational dependencies and connections that we’ve allowed to be broken, and there may be a way to do it that’s a bit softer that what I expect. We’ll see.
I had a job at 15 also lol. McDonalds on the weekends. We weren't allowed to work on school nights. All our energy was needed for SCHOOL. But a part time job was needed for MONEY! Mom stayed at home with us and Dad worked. There was little extra money so my parents answer was work lol.
Shoot, just take away inflation.
If real inflation is 8% (it’s higher), and you try to save wealth in dollars. If you save 10,000 a year, by year 10 (where you’ve saved a sum of $100,000) you’re losing almost all of your savings to inflation every year (8% of $100,000 being $8,000). By year 12, you must increase your savings rate to keep ahead in real value.
This is why people are forced into the stock market to seek returns. The alternatives are to grow real assets, seek returns on cash, etc.
Growing real assets is a rigged game, because the cabal uses their printing presses to pick winners and losers by handing out favorable loans and subsidies. They may not win in year 1, year 5, or even year 40, but over time through lower money costs and favorable legislation, they will continually tilt the table in their favor.
Bank interest is lower than inflation, by definition. Inflation is created by bank profits. They pay a portion to keep people playing, but never the total.
The stock market inevitably ends up increasingly funding the cabal, which increases their ability to take over markets.
I believe a solution to this is coming, but don’t claim to know what that solution is.
GME is part of the plan to take down the corrupt wall street
Seems like it. Taking it down and what takes its place are two different things though.
We're 66 yo. and both my husband and I would have loved seeing our taxes go to our children and grandchildren!
now imagine when your over 65 and how much more you paid
Imagine having worked over 100 years (my husband and I, combined)?
Trump actually using tariffs scared the absolute FUCK out of the globalists.
Tariffs are taxes. And the reason we paid less in taxes back then is because the government didn't account for 36% of all spending in the economy.
Right, we didn't have a MIC, NSA, CIA, a runaway DoE, State Dept and DoD and all the agencies that siphon money either. Land was more valuable than money. Most businesses were community or privately funded, and there were strict immigration controls (compared to what we have today). So much has changed.
income taxes are necessary to pay back the interest on the fiat printed out of thin air & "borrowed" from the private federal reserve, duhhh .. sarcasm
income taxes are a scam & a surefire way to tell who the slaves are & who aren't. there is no other reason, it's that simple.
the vast majority of people think income taxes go to schools & roads... the others just think "duurr, i don't know... i just don't wanna go to prison"
i keep telling people... this Great Awakening will fast forward when people stop paying income taxes.
Just tell them to take a drive from a state with lower taxes to a state with higher taxes. It is almost always the case that the state with higher taxes has worse roads. The more the taxes to more rats they need to feed in the govt the less money there is for roads.
If even 10% of people filled out their forms with as many allowances and dependents as possible, then opted to not pay in when the bill is due, it would be a mega troll to fiat
Income tax was signed into law by Abraham Lincoln in 1862 (Revenue Act of 1862. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revenue_Act_of_1862) Regular people didn't start paying it until WWII (see Disney propaganda video link here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMU-KGKK6q8
Yep , right after the Republic FAILED for lack of a quorum . And President Hiram Grant went right along with no reconstruction of that Government after the fighting ended ( no treaty for a non-declared conflict).
And don't forget the thousands who died protecting us.....our Military Veterans. Does anyone know the exact number (though I suspect it far more than anything they report) of men and women who died during all those wars. How many American Patriots did we lose. I bet it is close to the number of illegals biden has let cross the border here in Texas and I think that number is 1.7 million.
Come on anons, dig, dig and dig deep for those answers. We are waiting.
Well of course. What an informative meme. The demoncraps should consider using it as a campaign meme.
They don't want you retiring. Ever.
It's the FED, Sweetheart!
what did they edit out (or in) in 1908?
Taxation is theff
Taxation is not theft. It's part of the bargain we make as citizens. Don't want to pay taxes, renounce that citizenship. Otherwise, I agree with everything you said.
It's hardly a bargain when you are taxed every which way for every act you do.
How is it a "bargain" to buy a plot of land, spend my own money to build up the land (paying taxes on every piece of lumber, of grain of concrete, every strand of wire), and then have my overall property taxes get raised because I made improvements myself?
How is it that I can work all my life to finally reach a point where I am being paid a nice enough sum to enjoy my life, but I get taxed at greater percentages to equalize my ability to live my life with a gender studies 22 year old?
How is that a bargain?
If you think that's a bargain, then I have this sick ass plot of land to sell you under your local highway.
Flat out wrong. It's not a "bargain" we made. It was imposed upon us. Taxation without representation was the whole reason behind the founding of the USA. If the last few years have taught us anything, it is that WE haven't had a voice in anything that has happened. The cabal has engineered all of this, using fraudulent means as necessary, and they do it for their own benefit.
If you want to pay egregiously high taxes to a corrupt, satanic cabal, that is your choice. By all means keep doing it. But the rest of us don't. This is our country, and we're taking it back.
To enslave us.
The IRS is not long for this world.
Very true statement but that pic has to be from the late 20's or early 30's not the teens.
The IRS likes to blur history a bit. The income tax was instituted as part of the Tariff of 1909 on certain businesses. It was extended in the Tariff of 1913 to include "individuals". They play word games to make you think it applies where it doesn't.
Most Americans didn't start paying the tax until "withholding" started to help pay for WWII during the "victory tax", which was voluntary. That's also around the time they instituted Social Security. Lots more I could add, but I just wanted to point out that it really started before 1913.