Tucker is CORRECT. Noone looks or pays attention to anything except their fkn cellphones. Walking Zombies
We could have a hundred spacecraft or fighter jets flying around and most people wouldnt notice
Danica Patrick is no racing superstar. Graham Hill, the only winner of auto racing’s Triple Crown (the Indy 500, the Monaco Grand Prix and the 24 Hours of Le Mans) was a racing superstar. Aryton Senna was a racing superstar. The legendary Paddy Hopkirk was a racing superstar. Danica is fit to make these drivers some sandwiches.
ADDED: Folks, before you reply to this, do me a favour and read what I wrote fully. If you want to argue with me, do so in good faith and don't claim or infer I wrote something I did not write.
I think too many people confuse geo-engineering with "chemtrails". I am glad she said "Its a bit of conspiracy theory" and I do wish someone like Tucker handles this head on. Its not that hard to break it down.
[Cloud Seeding] - This is the most common thing that people claim is "chemtrails" but it happens at much lower altitude, and sprays Silver Iodide right into a forming storm system. No heavy metals in this. It does not explain the "chemtrails" as people claim the contrails
This seems to be the latest Research that concludes that this requires modification to civilian aircraft.
No one has been able to provide any evidence of this being deployed, or the modifications made to aircraft in large numbers to claim this explains the "chemtrails".
Alternate theories proposed by some theorists is that jet fuel is modified to add heavy metals that stays in the sky. Again, no one can provide any scientific foundation for this.
Final aspect is shooting mirrors into the sky. Again, I see a lot of talk about it, but cant seem to find anything concrete.
So ultimately folks, unless someone can provide either evidence for clandestine modifications of the planes, fuel etc, what you see in the sky is simply contrails.
That does not mean all these geo-engineering programs are benign. Who knows what happens if you inject SO2 into the stratosphere?
Does this mean they not poisoning us in a million ways? Of course they are.
BUT sadly all this is now encompassed under the term "chemtrails" which is like Flat Earth, is most probably a clown op to make us look stupid when we try to expose climate modification programs because anyone who does a bit of digging will realise there is no basis for claiming "chemtrails" exist.
Who are you and what did you do with bubble_bursts? LOL
"there is no basis for claiming "chemtrails" exist." ???
To the contrary.
I must ask who is that convinced you chemtrails do not exist?
Was it a government scientist? The same scientists trying to convince you that global warming is a threat to humanity? Harvard or Yale environmental professors? Same people who tried to convince you the vaccines were safe and effective? "Trust the science!"
Would there be a concerted effort by clandestine groups to convince the public that chemtrails are imaginary if it could be considered a crime against humanity and they were trying to avoid accountability? I would say yes.
We live with fact checkers like Snopes who have been shown to be bias, always pushing public attention away from the truth. Do you not think there are a group of upper level, government paid fact checkers with scientific backgrounds who could make a convincing argument that the white lines are normal contrails?
I am old enough to remember the times when white streaks across the sky did not exist. I have been following chemtrail theories since they started. Read many water sample reports analyzing the chemical compounds that are being found in remote pounds and lakes. Ya, the fact checkers always have an excuse as to why barium, strontium and aluminum is being found in concentrations that are hundreds of time normal levels and they are paid to make you question how it got there.
I think we have seen enough misdirection and lies in recent years from people who we were told to trust to come up with our own rational conclusions. If they are trying to poison us with a dozen different methods, why should we eliminate the air we breathe?
Can I just ask a couple questions as I’ve been confronted here on this hot topic a few times…
Why are you asking anons to prove without a shadow of a doubt that chemtrails are real?
This is a thread where an anon posted a video of Tucker Carlson. In fact this site is my only source of news, I wouldn’t have seen it elsewhere. I don’t follow people on YouTube or X etc.
Again, Tucker is posted here all the time, and it’s pretty obvious here he is being slick in his words and almost agreeing with what she says with questions.
For example the way he pauses her and says “wait so what are chemtrails?” In his questioning voice.
She says the whole “well that’s a little deep” and he chuckles “well hey most of these conspiracy’s turn out to be true!”
Then he completely throws away this act as he agrees with her. As she describes seeing the X and the clouds he says “YES!” not “huh? What?” Or “contrails you mean?”
Then the ultimate wink and nod that he knows exactly what she is talking about, and perhaps even knows to be true.
“I don’t think people look at the sky anymore…. I think people are looking at their iPhones so they don’t notice…” then laughs as he says people aren’t stargazing.
So reading in between the lines what is he implying? SHOULD people be looking at the sky? If so looking for WHAT? What does he think they are MISSING?
THEN he says how did you get into that? “Like NOTICING THINGS AROUND YOU AND WONDERING WHAT THEY ARE?”
So my questions are, should we be discussing if Tucker is a shill? Should we be discussing why Tucker shouldn’t entertain this or is wrong because we can’t prove it here? Should we NOT post Tucker who seems to be hitting all types of fringe conspiracy ideas as of late?
When the Govt was going UFO crazy I believe TUCKER made some VERY FRINGE and intriguing episodes that circulated here heavily.
I don’t remember ever seeing a mod post and then arguing over wether or not it could be PROVEN, wether or not alien tech could be proven.
So why can’t we post and discuss Tucker on weather mods but we can talk anything else Tucker, aliens, religion, I believe he even touched on some nephilim stuff with Barr etc…..
It seems the majority of the post is you saying “here’s what they say they are doing and here’s why it can’t be happening”
The majority of my post is tldr Tucker Carlson posted the video, he doesn’t make claim either way what the guest is saying, but I suppose the whole point of his show is letting people make this fringe claims and not being told they can’t say these things.
I think it’s really telling at the end how he says
“Like NOTICING THINGS AROUND YOU AND WONDERING WHAT THEY ARE?”
He is essentially saying no you’re not a conspiracy theorist, you’re just looking at your environment and noticing.
Now that we have cleared the "without a shadow of doubt" confusion, do you agree that as anons, we need to have standards where there needs to be some evidence beyond "I used to see no persistent contrails, but now I see it all the time" ? Because persistent contrails have been document in books as far back as 50s.
As far as Tucker is concerned - (and this applies to Elon Musk and everyone else as well) - we have to always keep our ears open to see if he is showing his true colors.
But in this case, its even more simple. Tucker had a guest who talked about it and he indicated that he doesn't know about it and she even indicated that it falls into the conspiracy theory realm.
Nowhere in this exchange is there any. reason to believe. "Tucker is saying this is real". My read is that this is the first time Tucker heard about it.
Hence the discussions. I was hoping to see how much evidence anons can dig up that backs the claims of chemtrails. However all everyone is doing is getting offended that I said something that goes against their belief system
If I had to guess, I would say I started noticing the lines aprox 20 years ago, perhaps 25.
As a child, neighborhood friends would lay in the grass, often, and try to make shapes out of the passing clouds. Skies were always a bright blue, bright white clouds. Today, the skies are never a bright blue, they always have a white haze, even on the days without the lines. If you look at your horizon, even on a clear day, you will see the haze in the air.
You point out photos of persistent contrails from 1950's. That my friend would be an example of a plane dropping fuel in a risky landing situation where the plane was having flight complications. Those did not happen on a daily basis. There may be photos from the 50's but those were rare situations and cannot be used to explain every day occurrences.
You point out photos of persistent contrails from 1950's
Oh boy. I didn't think you were one of these people fren. Really? You did not even bother to ask me to show you the picture before jumping in with "That my friend would be an example of a plane dropping fuel in a risky landing situation where the plane was having flight complications".
Does this look like a plane making a risky landing? How many times did it make a risky landing? Or rather how many planed did this risky landing ?
Because until someone provides some evidence to back up this claim, its simply a conspiracy theory. Note that this is not a fringe conspiracy site and thats why encourage anons to do a bit of digging and come up with some evidence before claiming all kind of things.
Okay, if you are confirming it then I guess it must be true. They don't use barium or anything other than good old cloud-seeding shit. No sarcasm: It could be just more high flying planes that fly in the 'always persistent trails' section of the Appleman chart. They could be drones for all anyone knows. Something is up with the persistent trails though. I will stand by that.
Until I have 9 sources from regime approved government funded scientists and MSM professional liars, I wont believe my eyes.
As a contractor, I spend 6 days a week outside from the crack of dawn until dusk. I watch as the planes fly overhead and their trails spread in a thin layer covering the sky turning what the forecast called sunny skies into a high overcast. I watch this happen day after day. I have been working outside like this since I was 16. I am 59 now. This is 43 years worth of direct and persistent observation.
This is a fairly new phenomena. Not long ago you would watch as the trails behind the planes disappeared. Now I rarely see a day that doesnt turn overcast in the summer. I rarely see a day with the puffy white summer clouds that I saw daily not all the long ago.
And I put 2 and 2 together. I take my observations with what comes directly from the horses mouth. I believe them when they tell me they want to block the suns radiation to lessen 'climate change' and I can identify the vehicle with which they enact this plan.
Ill believe what I see everyday over what the government wants me to believe.
[Cloud Seeding] This is the most common thing that people claim is "chemtrails"
I don't think I have ever seen cloud seeding in Michigan but I have seen persistent trails up to the hundreds almost every day during the bush/obama years. In the 45 era they were noticeably down.
Would love to see if you kept a journal of photos, videos, weather conditions etc. Otherwise, not very useful for the discussion since contrails can linger for a long time based on atmospheric conditions.
They can but persistent trails used to be rarer than non-persistent. Now they are much more common than non-persistent. I understand non-persistent to mean dissipates within 90 seconds and usually less.
Sorry, I'm not making it clear. There are both persistent and non-persistent contrails known to exist. One of them dissipates in about a minute. The other lasts indefinitely. Any guesses as to which is which?
Typical contrails are condensation, cold air meeting a hot engine. The same process occurs when you walk into a warm room wearing a pair of glasses after standing in freezing temperatures, your glasses fog up. Condensation.
At altitudes of 50,000 feet, it is -50 degrees and humidity is extremely low. The condensation behind the plane freezes and creates the white trail however, with the humidity being so low, the tiny ice crystals disappear very fast through a process called sublimation. Solid turning to a gas.
If you leave an ice cube in your freezer long enough it will get smaller until it is gone, solid to gas process is sublimation. This is standard physics, and no amount of conjecture can change the laws of physics. It there are persistent lines from an aircraft traveling at 50,000 altitude, there is a solid substance present.
I did and you said it's wrong haha. Persistent contrails and Non-Persistent contrails. The old fashioned kind almost always dissipated at a distance you could see behind the plane therefore they were Non-Persistent contrails. I asked my mom about it when I was a kid. Why are there those white marker lines that disappear going behind the jets sometimes?
Couldn't have said it better. Eyeroll is the proper response when someone says there never used to be contrails or that most days were clear and sunny. I saw contrails in the 80s behave just as they do today. Only difference is more planes.
' i see the grid of trails..that dont disapate... its gonna be cloudy tomorrow'
exactly that in NW arizona.. as lake mead get lower & lower....
She was with Aaron Rodgers for a couple years. I had no doubt she'd been exposed to some truths.
Including the fact she was his beard.
Hi Danica! Glad you are lurking
Full interview at his website (needs subscription to watch): https://tuckercarlson.com/encounter-danica-patrick
But his promotion video about the interview on X: Danica Patrick is legitimately smart and interesting. [twstaker]
“Legitimately smart and interesting” except for her views on government controlled weather modification! Not that part! Stop noticing things Danica!
Tucker is CORRECT. Noone looks or pays attention to anything except their fkn cellphones. Walking Zombies We could have a hundred spacecraft or fighter jets flying around and most people wouldnt notice
There you have it folks, don’t notice things around you and won’t end up falling for silly conspiracy theories!
Wow, so brave. Not once were they close to naming our enemies. We long past, “is this being done.”
Danica Patrick is no racing superstar. Graham Hill, the only winner of auto racing’s Triple Crown (the Indy 500, the Monaco Grand Prix and the 24 Hours of Le Mans) was a racing superstar. Aryton Senna was a racing superstar. The legendary Paddy Hopkirk was a racing superstar. Danica is fit to make these drivers some sandwiches.
She competed in a man's sport and held her own. This sets her apart from almost all the other female Commentary talking on Men's Sports Broadcasts.
Total ratings grab, she was decent enough to compete but that's it. One win in her career. No way should she have been driving in NASCAR.
Over here in Fresno CA, the F-15 Guard planes leave a trail behind them, but I don't think they got room on there for spray equipment.
ADDED: Folks, before you reply to this, do me a favour and read what I wrote fully. If you want to argue with me, do so in good faith and don't claim or infer I wrote something I did not write.
I think too many people confuse geo-engineering with "chemtrails". I am glad she said "Its a bit of conspiracy theory" and I do wish someone like Tucker handles this head on. Its not that hard to break it down.
[Cloud Seeding] - This is the most common thing that people claim is "chemtrails" but it happens at much lower altitude, and sprays Silver Iodide right into a forming storm system. No heavy metals in this. It does not explain the "chemtrails" as people claim the contrails
Stratospheric Aerosol Injection - by injecting aerosols into the stratosphere, mainly SO2. No heavy metals in this as well.
This seems to be the latest Research that concludes that this requires modification to civilian aircraft.
No one has been able to provide any evidence of this being deployed, or the modifications made to aircraft in large numbers to claim this explains the "chemtrails".
Alternate theories proposed by some theorists is that jet fuel is modified to add heavy metals that stays in the sky. Again, no one can provide any scientific foundation for this.
Final aspect is shooting mirrors into the sky. Again, I see a lot of talk about it, but cant seem to find anything concrete.
So ultimately folks, unless someone can provide either evidence for clandestine modifications of the planes, fuel etc, what you see in the sky is simply contrails.
That does not mean all these geo-engineering programs are benign. Who knows what happens if you inject SO2 into the stratosphere?
Does this mean they not poisoning us in a million ways? Of course they are.
BUT sadly all this is now encompassed under the term "chemtrails" which is like Flat Earth, is most probably a clown op to make us look stupid when we try to expose climate modification programs because anyone who does a bit of digging will realise there is no basis for claiming "chemtrails" exist.
Who are you and what did you do with bubble_bursts? LOL
"there is no basis for claiming "chemtrails" exist." ???
To the contrary.
I must ask who is that convinced you chemtrails do not exist?
Was it a government scientist? The same scientists trying to convince you that global warming is a threat to humanity? Harvard or Yale environmental professors? Same people who tried to convince you the vaccines were safe and effective? "Trust the science!"
Would there be a concerted effort by clandestine groups to convince the public that chemtrails are imaginary if it could be considered a crime against humanity and they were trying to avoid accountability? I would say yes.
We live with fact checkers like Snopes who have been shown to be bias, always pushing public attention away from the truth. Do you not think there are a group of upper level, government paid fact checkers with scientific backgrounds who could make a convincing argument that the white lines are normal contrails?
I am old enough to remember the times when white streaks across the sky did not exist. I have been following chemtrail theories since they started. Read many water sample reports analyzing the chemical compounds that are being found in remote pounds and lakes. Ya, the fact checkers always have an excuse as to why barium, strontium and aluminum is being found in concentrations that are hundreds of time normal levels and they are paid to make you question how it got there.
I think we have seen enough misdirection and lies in recent years from people who we were told to trust to come up with our own rational conclusions. If they are trying to poison us with a dozen different methods, why should we eliminate the air we breathe?
Tell me, in your mind in which decade did these white streaks across the sky started?
Can I just ask a couple questions as I’ve been confronted here on this hot topic a few times…
Why are you asking anons to prove without a shadow of a doubt that chemtrails are real?
This is a thread where an anon posted a video of Tucker Carlson. In fact this site is my only source of news, I wouldn’t have seen it elsewhere. I don’t follow people on YouTube or X etc.
Again, Tucker is posted here all the time, and it’s pretty obvious here he is being slick in his words and almost agreeing with what she says with questions.
For example the way he pauses her and says “wait so what are chemtrails?” In his questioning voice.
She says the whole “well that’s a little deep” and he chuckles “well hey most of these conspiracy’s turn out to be true!”
Then he completely throws away this act as he agrees with her. As she describes seeing the X and the clouds he says “YES!” not “huh? What?” Or “contrails you mean?”
Then the ultimate wink and nod that he knows exactly what she is talking about, and perhaps even knows to be true.
“I don’t think people look at the sky anymore…. I think people are looking at their iPhones so they don’t notice…” then laughs as he says people aren’t stargazing.
So reading in between the lines what is he implying? SHOULD people be looking at the sky? If so looking for WHAT? What does he think they are MISSING?
THEN he says how did you get into that? “Like NOTICING THINGS AROUND YOU AND WONDERING WHAT THEY ARE?”
So my questions are, should we be discussing if Tucker is a shill? Should we be discussing why Tucker shouldn’t entertain this or is wrong because we can’t prove it here? Should we NOT post Tucker who seems to be hitting all types of fringe conspiracy ideas as of late?
When the Govt was going UFO crazy I believe TUCKER made some VERY FRINGE and intriguing episodes that circulated here heavily.
I don’t remember ever seeing a mod post and then arguing over wether or not it could be PROVEN, wether or not alien tech could be proven.
So why can’t we post and discuss Tucker on weather mods but we can talk anything else Tucker, aliens, religion, I believe he even touched on some nephilim stuff with Barr etc…..
Where did I say this? Did you read my full post? Did you read the very first line? What did I say about making claims that I said what I did not say?
I’ve just read it all. Maybe I misread.
It seems the majority of the post is you saying “here’s what they say they are doing and here’s why it can’t be happening”
The majority of my post is tldr Tucker Carlson posted the video, he doesn’t make claim either way what the guest is saying, but I suppose the whole point of his show is letting people make this fringe claims and not being told they can’t say these things.
I think it’s really telling at the end how he says
“Like NOTICING THINGS AROUND YOU AND WONDERING WHAT THEY ARE?”
He is essentially saying no you’re not a conspiracy theorist, you’re just looking at your environment and noticing.
Now that we have cleared the "without a shadow of doubt" confusion, do you agree that as anons, we need to have standards where there needs to be some evidence beyond "I used to see no persistent contrails, but now I see it all the time" ? Because persistent contrails have been document in books as far back as 50s.
As far as Tucker is concerned - (and this applies to Elon Musk and everyone else as well) - we have to always keep our ears open to see if he is showing his true colors.
But in this case, its even more simple. Tucker had a guest who talked about it and he indicated that he doesn't know about it and she even indicated that it falls into the conspiracy theory realm.
Nowhere in this exchange is there any. reason to believe. "Tucker is saying this is real". My read is that this is the first time Tucker heard about it.
Hence the discussions. I was hoping to see how much evidence anons can dig up that backs the claims of chemtrails. However all everyone is doing is getting offended that I said something that goes against their belief system
And where did I say you should not post Tucker ? The fact that it is up and being discussed should already answer the question.
If I had to guess, I would say I started noticing the lines aprox 20 years ago, perhaps 25.
As a child, neighborhood friends would lay in the grass, often, and try to make shapes out of the passing clouds. Skies were always a bright blue, bright white clouds. Today, the skies are never a bright blue, they always have a white haze, even on the days without the lines. If you look at your horizon, even on a clear day, you will see the haze in the air.
You point out photos of persistent contrails from 1950's. That my friend would be an example of a plane dropping fuel in a risky landing situation where the plane was having flight complications. Those did not happen on a daily basis. There may be photos from the 50's but those were rare situations and cannot be used to explain every day occurrences.
Oh boy. I didn't think you were one of these people fren. Really? You did not even bother to ask me to show you the picture before jumping in with "That my friend would be an example of a plane dropping fuel in a risky landing situation where the plane was having flight complications".
Does this look like a plane making a risky landing? How many times did it make a risky landing? Or rather how many planed did this risky landing ?
https://imgur.com/a/tY6NuTK
From the book Cloud studies in colour
If you call them chemTrails it’s debunked. It’s 1984 and words matter. Cloud seeding is an approved name.
But "geoengineers" have proposed spraying 'aerosols' high in the atmosphere to reflect sunlight, counteracting global warming.
Did you read what I wrote? All covered in there.
You say there are no heavy metals in what they spray. How do you know that?
They are full of aluminum.
Because until someone provides some evidence to back up this claim, its simply a conspiracy theory. Note that this is not a fringe conspiracy site and thats why encourage anons to do a bit of digging and come up with some evidence before claiming all kind of things.
You made the claim. How do you know there are no metal aerosols in "geoengineering?"
I am simply showing you what the documents available on the subject says.
They are still proposals
They include aerosols like SO2, HCL etc. (Again, these are probably very bad for us, but they simply dont explain "chemtrails")
Okay, if you are confirming it then I guess it must be true. They don't use barium or anything other than good old cloud-seeding shit. No sarcasm: It could be just more high flying planes that fly in the 'always persistent trails' section of the Appleman chart. They could be drones for all anyone knows. Something is up with the persistent trails though. I will stand by that.
Until I have 9 sources from regime approved government funded scientists and MSM professional liars, I wont believe my eyes.
As a contractor, I spend 6 days a week outside from the crack of dawn until dusk. I watch as the planes fly overhead and their trails spread in a thin layer covering the sky turning what the forecast called sunny skies into a high overcast. I watch this happen day after day. I have been working outside like this since I was 16. I am 59 now. This is 43 years worth of direct and persistent observation.
This is a fairly new phenomena. Not long ago you would watch as the trails behind the planes disappeared. Now I rarely see a day that doesnt turn overcast in the summer. I rarely see a day with the puffy white summer clouds that I saw daily not all the long ago.
And I put 2 and 2 together. I take my observations with what comes directly from the horses mouth. I believe them when they tell me they want to block the suns radiation to lessen 'climate change' and I can identify the vehicle with which they enact this plan.
Ill believe what I see everyday over what the government wants me to believe.
We have already discussed all of this in this thread. Please take a look first, dont want to repeat the same arguments again and again.
I don't think I have ever seen cloud seeding in Michigan but I have seen persistent trails up to the hundreds almost every day during the bush/obama years. In the 45 era they were noticeably down.
NOTICEABLY down…. Exactly.
The thick clean air on nights after a REAL storm passed with the round blooming natural clouds…. SURREAL….
Would love to see if you kept a journal of photos, videos, weather conditions etc. Otherwise, not very useful for the discussion since contrails can linger for a long time based on atmospheric conditions.
They can but persistent trails used to be rarer than non-persistent. Now they are much more common than non-persistent. I understand non-persistent to mean dissipates within 90 seconds and usually less.
That understanding is wrong, even according to cloud books from as long back as 1957. They can last for hours and sometimes even become clouds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8D0kX3O0anY
Sorry, I'm not making it clear. There are both persistent and non-persistent contrails known to exist. One of them dissipates in about a minute. The other lasts indefinitely. Any guesses as to which is which?
If you claim there are two different kinds of contrails, go ahead and tell me which is which.
Typical contrails are condensation, cold air meeting a hot engine. The same process occurs when you walk into a warm room wearing a pair of glasses after standing in freezing temperatures, your glasses fog up. Condensation.
At altitudes of 50,000 feet, it is -50 degrees and humidity is extremely low. The condensation behind the plane freezes and creates the white trail however, with the humidity being so low, the tiny ice crystals disappear very fast through a process called sublimation. Solid turning to a gas.
If you leave an ice cube in your freezer long enough it will get smaller until it is gone, solid to gas process is sublimation. This is standard physics, and no amount of conjecture can change the laws of physics. It there are persistent lines from an aircraft traveling at 50,000 altitude, there is a solid substance present.
I did and you said it's wrong haha. Persistent contrails and Non-Persistent contrails. The old fashioned kind almost always dissipated at a distance you could see behind the plane therefore they were Non-Persistent contrails. I asked my mom about it when I was a kid. Why are there those white marker lines that disappear going behind the jets sometimes?
Couldn't have said it better. Eyeroll is the proper response when someone says there never used to be contrails or that most days were clear and sunny. I saw contrails in the 80s behave just as they do today. Only difference is more planes.