So, JD Vance.....
In 2016, apparently, JD Vance was a vehement never-Trumper. He said a bunch of things.
In 2016, he wrote that
he goes "back and forth between thinking Trump is a cynical as*hole like Nixon who wouldnft be that bad (and might even prove useful) or that hefs Americafs Hitler."
Nixon, huh? Well, I think that history is going to completely re-evaluate who Nixon was once the truth comes to light. But anyway....
"I'm a Never Trump guy," Vance said in an interview with Charlie Rose in 2016, a clip used in both the new ads. "I never liked him."
a screenshot of a Vance tweet from October 2016. "My god what an idiot," he wrote, referring to Trump.
and yes, even
Vance expressed a similar sentiment in other interviews and since-deleted tweets from that time, including publicly mulling the idea of supporting Hillary Clinton, calling Trump "noxious" and "reprehensible."
Sauce: https://www.politico.com/news/2021/10/23/jd-vance-ohio-senate-trump-comments-516865
Now, in the midst of all the current VP upheaval, hand-wringing, groaning, questioning (not a bad thing in itself) and general chaotic atmosphere, I would like to remind myself and fellow frogs of the following:
Prior to his Damacus moment, Saint Paul was in fact Mr. Saul, and he hated both Jesus and Christians. He reported approved the murder (stoning) of Stephen, and guarded the garments for those that did the dirty work.
He persecuted Jesus' followers, and hunted them down. No doubt, Paul-Saul was a vehement Never-Jesus-er....
Now, I'm not suggesting that there is a spiritual connection between DJT and Vance.
All I'm saying is, sometimes, the person most against someone and with the worst idea of that someone, can become that other person's most stalwart, biggest supporter and most effective advocate, and we have a great example in Paul.
The other thought I had was, if you are a praying person, then ask God why. Ask God why Donald Trump choose JD Vance as his VP. Aks God and then listen. Then add THAT to your data, facs, information.
Seek a bit of heavenly wisdom. Maybe God knows something you don't. (kek)
I'm going to be adding JD Vance to my prayer list. I'm going to be praying for him. For my part, I do not take his previous stance on DJT as a sign of a problem. Rather, I take it as another reminder that everyone is on the path of Awakening, and sometimes, the greater the contrast between before and after, the more fervent the person they are in their new outlook.
Something worth considering, imo.
“Do I not destroy my enemies when I make them my friends?”
― Abraham Lincoln
Team.of Rivals was a book written about that. Lincoln took Men who hated him and they cried when he died.
How many of us here were Trump supporters in 2016?
Raising hand!
Same here! I noticed how the established hated him.
I've been a Trump supporter since the 80s and have always said he would make a good President.
Re OP - Sometimes the most faithful are those that have converted to another religion.
JD Vance wife's a practicing Hindu. Wth
It's her childhood/ancestral faith. Vance is a Catholic.
I used to be Catholic but now I'm Christian. Which teaches you Jesus died for our sins and it's not based off works.
I am not into supporting pedophiles and kiddy diddlers so left Catholism. They put Mary and Saints in the church which was weird when it's about Jesus.
so what? I am born catholic and practicing the teachings of Boddho (Buddha). I know the Bible better than 99% here. If you want to change anything, start with yourself, no less no more.
If you read the Bible you would understand Jesus is the only way and not by works.
I read the following in the Bible: "Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect." (Matthew 5:48)
"He said unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep." (John 21:17)
<A lot of James chapter 2>
We are saved by Grace. Faith in Christ isn't to be content with "being saved", it is to become like Him. That can't be done through Grace alone, that requires us to be willing to put in some effort, like becoming anything else in life does. The idea that God would "save" one who processes faith without worms and damn an otherwise righteous man who knows not His name is contrary to a Godly nature.
Kash Patel is Hindu
Hopefully he turns his life to Jesus.
We can pray for him. BTW, I used to be Catholic too. I wasn’t practicing. I began a great struggle about 10 years ago. I pray more now than I ever did before, am grateful for this board, and are on our second year of listening to Bible in A Year. The podcast is by a priest, Father Mike. But I am happy to be reading/listening to the Word. Prayers to you and your family. 🙏
Awesome. Yep. Prayer works.
I was so done with the establishment rnc, continually handing us bs candidates like mittens and no name. I loved Trump as my candidate from the moment he descended on that escalator.
I was a fan pre 2016
Me
More connections. JD Vance is connected to Silicon Valley billionaire Trump supporter Peter Thiel.
JD Vance is also the guy who came up with the idea that Trump's win was caused by the liberals themselves:
As barely following Trump, I remember this narrative was an eye opener to me and it helped a lot of people at that time understand how liberals completely ignored the common people.
Its quite possible that JD Vance was playing a role from the beginning, and building his street creds as a Trump hater to that he could drive the narrative.
Other connection to dig: Amy Chua from Yale (his professor)
Peter Thiel is co-founder and chairman of Palantir, which has deep connections with the CIA and other alphabet agencies.
Also noteworthy is that Palantir just made a large financial donation to Trump's PAC.
Pete Thiel is like Larry Fink. We will only know their full role after the curtains fall
Peter Thiel also supported AmbrosiaPlasma. I wonder where the raw materials come from? https://www.science.org/content/article/young-blood-antiaging-trial-raises-questions
I do think he is a placeholder, we will see
Wondering the same...
I hadn't considered this angle. Great points!
Reminds me of the Christian persecutor Saul becoming one of Christ's biggest followers, the Apostle Paul. Changes of heart, mind, and soul CAN happen through the power of Christ!
Think in your own life how many people you know who were once atheists and now believe, or were once idiotic leftists and are now riding the Trump train. Miracles CAN happen, and people CAN change. Trump sees something in Vance that we might not be fully aware of.
Absolutely!
Thank you for this. I forgot about Paul. Last night I also saw a post by a priest that said majority of the people who work for God are picked from the worst type, like people with criininal histories, lots of issues, and they were the ones who rose above and beyond for the great harvesting of people and bringing many to Christ.
Exactly. Some of the greatest saints came from horrible beginnings and led extremely sinful lives, like St. Paul and St. Augustine, yet went on to become strong leaders of the faith.
I don’t love the pick, but I also don’t hate it. People change. Trump knows a lot more about him than I do.
Total agreement. Remember Ted Cruz refused to endorse him in 2016 and now he is a big supporter. Too many people believed the MSM narrative until they got to know him or witness his policies that worked.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/MVUV3J4NcmJk
Makes me nervous..
Did you wear your ear bandage today? 🤕
Yep...more positive than negative comments. Caught some stink eye tho...was great! 😂😂😂
It's going to 100F today... so everyone is already annoyed from the heat... denaturing their brains...lol
You are the best! Wish I could could have seen their faces! Way to go fren! 👏😸
Nobody is a zealous as a man who has truly changed his mind. To donthat you have to see something, Vance was simply asleep when he said that, trump shook his shoulders and woke him up. I noticed they had him grow a beard so he doesn't look like a 12 yo. I think given where we are in the plan we have to believe trump and the WHs know what they are doing. I'm going to pray fervently for them both. We need a good men to serve, it's in our own interest to trust God for our sufficiency and protection and pray for Vance. Perhaps in four years he will be president t and Don junior his V.P. then Don Jr. As pres. that would give us a MAGA legacy of 20 years and for the Baron Trump fans it would put him on deck.
I can say nobody expected Vance!
“Engage people with what they expect; it is what they are able to discern and confirms their projections. It settles them into predictable patterns of response, occupying their minds while you wait for the extraordinary moment — that which they cannot anticipate.” ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War
Perfect quote from AOW photo! 👏
Jesus christ dude.
Yes, "reminder that everyone is on the path of Awakening, and sometimes, the greater the contrast between before and after, the more fervent the person they are in their new outlook", it reminds me of a Born-Again Christian.
For all of you complainers, answer me this. Do you think you know Trump's agenda better than Trump does? Or do you simply think you are so much smarter than Trump is?
Might as well just be round two of "keep your friends close, but your enemies closer" like with Pence.
I'm obviously not privy to any inside info so just a thought.
I don't think so this time. As trump only has 4 years and Vance is our next guy.
If you side-step all the narrative spinning on Pence, you'll find that Trump holds him in high regard. Pence was a sacrifice. A pawn, a very loyal pawn, sacrificed (including his reputation and career) by DJT so that certain gains could be made in the overall plan. A willing sacrifice, too.
Why are we saying this when practically everyone else who were anti-Trumpers, we are suspicious of?
Why is everyone licking Vance’s boots?
What’s going on on this board???
I never mean any offense to my friend, but come on guys….WTF….??
There’s much more to consider… https://qagg.news/?q=Sidley+Austin&q2= What law firm did Vance work for? What law firm did both Obamas work for?
Interesting. He had a tenure there of all of 6 months. So odd.
Also, what happens when the public finds out Hitler was doing good by trying to break away from the power-hungry banks (same thing we are doing now)?
Their heads will explode, as will many on here.
I bet your a huge LGBTQ supporter
Yes (my friend) great analysis and observationy.Worth more than just considering,worth realizing . We must never forget (ALL IS NOT AS IT APPEARS). It did not look good for the people of God, when pharaoh and his army were barreling down on them and they were trapped at the Red Sea. It did not look good when Daniel was thrown into the lions den. It did not look good when Meshach Shadrach and Abednego were thrown into the fiery furnace. It did not look good when the city of Samaria was under siege by the Syrians (nothing went in, nothing went out) until the famine became so great in the city, that an ass's head sold for four pieces of silver and doves dung sold for five pieces of silver. It did not look good for Paul and Silas who were whipped and beaten, chained and thrown into jail, but at midnight(The darkest hour) they praised God. In all these examples, though it looked like defeat, in reality they were less than 24 hours from victory. On and on this lesson is taught to us by God. "The righteous are not to walk by sight but by faith" We do not judge the end, by the present. With this in mind even if a mistake was made and the wrong vice president was chosen, God has not been taken by surprise, neither was He disarmed. Let us rejoice because we know "All things work for the good of those who love the Lord and are called according to his purpose"(Romans 8:28) and because " If God be for us who or what can be against us"(Romans 8:31). Those who were once against us are now with us,and those who are not, are in the midst of change, or removal. 🙏
Well said.
The zeal of the convert.
His pick of JD Vance along with oddities at RNC convention ,( all seeing eye of money in backdrop, lady praying to a non Christian deity), Vance having worked at same law firm as Michael Obama, etc. Me and the wife are starting to think both sides serve Satan and everything is a massive psyop to keep us complacent until the end. Unless we hear Trump say outright that he gave his life to Jesus on such and such date and serves only Him, we will be weary. The book of revelation says that even the very elect shall be deceived and it doesn’t mention America aside from maybe one of the symbols of a part of the statue that Daniel prophesied about. According to revelation, there is no good and prosperous period into the tribulation. I trust God only and remain skeptical of Trump and the “white hats” making America great again.
^^ This.
I suppose when I prayed and asked Jesus last night, the first word He gave was Redemption. America is God's country, and in the spirit of what Jesus stands for - forgiveness,, redemption is vital. Every person gets a chance to redeem himself, starts a new life, new way of thinking.. maybe that's what America represents. Maybe that's why JD Vance was chosen, to represent every idiot never Trumper who has, will, and can redeem themselves, and see our point of view and join our side in the end.
Acts 9:1-22
A big problem: JD is 5'7'' and looks to be near the height of DJT when standing beside him. Thus, it's someone in a mask. Who is nearly the same height as DJT? JFK JR.
The assassination attempt on Trump was the CIA warning him that he better pick their guy. Vance is their guy...
This is Reagan/Bush all over...