Well, if you think about it…now he gets 3 square meals a day, free health care, gym membership, library membership, entry into men’s social group and soap on a rope- - free for 40 years.
Those condos belong to powerful people and tourism is Florida's money bag so you know the courts down there are not going to go easy on any perps. Keke
Maybe I have a twisted perspective on this. But as I see it, guy stole the home of a tax paying citizen, and his punishment is to be permanently housed under taxpayer expense?
Would have been funny if the judge said " I will allow you to squat for an additional 40 years, but unfortunately, it will be in the federal penitentiary"
We have to get back to where laws are respected (for the most part, as people will break all laws) and when they are broken/transgressed the punishment must certain and, dare I say this, swift.
I don't know the law but this sounds excessive, couldn't they just fine him for damages? What's the reason for jail time, the identity theft dimension of the crime?
It literally took bluewhiteandred more time to write the comment than it took me to read the first paragraph of the article which explains the reasoning for the charges. Love your username by the way!
I'm going to type this reeeeeeaalllyyyy sllooooooow soooooo you'llllll unnnnderrrstaaaanddd.
From the article: "Hobbs has committed similar acts in other places, like New York, and he was sued but never arrested."
Do you comprehend the term "repeat offender"? Maybe reading comprehension isn't your strong suit? Or do I need to type reeeeeeaalllyyyy sllooooooow again?
I don't know the law but this sounds excessive, couldn't they just fine him for damages? What's the reason for jail time, the identity theft dimension of the crime?
Because it essentially lets rich people pay their way out of trouble. What does a fine matter if someone is a multi-millionaire or a billionaire?
It's why people like Soros and Bill Gates and the Clintons and the Obamas continually get away with what they do.
If the idea of the justice system is that people face actual consequences for their actions, paying a fine for it doesn't really punish rich people.
But I agree with you that his sentencing seems out of proportion to his actions. Plenty of violent criminals get fewer years than this guy. Sometimes I think judges give people these ridiculous sentences because they know that the defendent will get out early with good behavior and because jails are over crowded and will let non violent criminals out early, and a good lawyer can get their sentence reduced. So by the time all that is factored in, that 40 year sentence will be whittled down into 3.5 years of actual time behind bars.
But I agree with you that his sentencing seems out of proportion
right so you get it... 40 years is more than some violent crimes. I guess I was just thinking if it's primarily a property-based crime, then he mostly should be paying damages. The strong jail time amounts are a double edged sword; certainly we want to punish crime, but it's also literally draconian to offer too much jail time for certain crimes.
Also housing's kind of a touchy subject: while I'm not advocating for squatting, the hoarding of real estate and letting rents get out of control is disgusting and I'm not as concerned about squatters until housing is made more affordable. I've heard of the OP stories though and that sounds like something above simple squatting, some kind of squat-to-own loophole scheme.
Sounds like he is in trouble for falsifying documents and not squatting by itself. If he had just said "Yep I'm a junkie and I live here now.", would anything have even happened?
We are no longer known as The Sunshine State. We are now called the FAFO State.
LOL. I like that.
Where's a good place to buy property in Florida? Need to ask Floridians
His squatting days have only just begun (if you know what I mean)...
Inside name might be Ben Dover…
LOL. I know what you mean.
At least he has a place to stay now.
Doesn't have to pay rent either, should be his dream.
LOL
Not really a squatter. He stole a condo.
And committed forgery.
"attempted" to steal a condo..big difference on his end 👍🏼
LOL. Cannot steal a condo. It doesn't move. I usually think of stealing for taking something and going somewhere.
Well, if you think about it…now he gets 3 square meals a day, free health care, gym membership, library membership, entry into men’s social group and soap on a rope- - free for 40 years.
That's the deal, there's only one way to experience true socialism in this country but many ways to sign up.
Well, crap... From that perspective, he's getting more of what he was stealing! He needs to work off his debts!
LOL very true.
Those condos belong to powerful people and tourism is Florida's money bag so you know the courts down there are not going to go easy on any perps. Keke
yes. Understand.
Don't mess with Florida.
He is going from a condo to a gated community. His life will certainly improve....
Very gated community. LOL
Free housing either way.
Free anal sex now, too...
One very restrictive
Maybe I have a twisted perspective on this. But as I see it, guy stole the home of a tax paying citizen, and his punishment is to be permanently housed under taxpayer expense?
We should exile them to Israel.
Great idea.
North Korea seems more fitting. They'll get a nice place to stay there.😬
He should be happy if he was looking for a free place to live, sounds like he just hit the jackpot
Well the condo was probably "gated". And the place he is going is also "gated" but with better security....
LOL
Would have been funny if the judge said " I will allow you to squat for an additional 40 years, but unfortunately, it will be in the federal penitentiary"
that would be justice.
Florida doing it correctly!
Amen.
This should happen to all squatters-wherever- when they assume they can squat other people's property and live freely there. Not just in FL.
Wouldn't that be good?
We have to get back to where laws are respected (for the most part, as people will break all laws) and when they are broken/transgressed the punishment must certain and, dare I say this, swift.
I like the swift part.
I don't know the law but this sounds excessive, couldn't they just fine him for damages? What's the reason for jail time, the identity theft dimension of the crime?
Try reading the article. It will tell you.
It literally took bluewhiteandred more time to write the comment than it took me to read the first paragraph of the article which explains the reasoning for the charges. Love your username by the way!
did read the article u/bruh_man
still asking the question why a fine isn't sufficient
HO LEE FUK.
I'm going to type this reeeeeeaalllyyyy sllooooooow soooooo you'llllll unnnnderrrstaaaanddd.
From the article: "Hobbs has committed similar acts in other places, like New York, and he was sued but never arrested."
Do you comprehend the term "repeat offender"? Maybe reading comprehension isn't your strong suit? Or do I need to type reeeeeeaalllyyyy sllooooooow again?
username checks out lol
Because it essentially lets rich people pay their way out of trouble. What does a fine matter if someone is a multi-millionaire or a billionaire?
It's why people like Soros and Bill Gates and the Clintons and the Obamas continually get away with what they do.
If the idea of the justice system is that people face actual consequences for their actions, paying a fine for it doesn't really punish rich people.
But I agree with you that his sentencing seems out of proportion to his actions. Plenty of violent criminals get fewer years than this guy. Sometimes I think judges give people these ridiculous sentences because they know that the defendent will get out early with good behavior and because jails are over crowded and will let non violent criminals out early, and a good lawyer can get their sentence reduced. So by the time all that is factored in, that 40 year sentence will be whittled down into 3.5 years of actual time behind bars.
right so you get it... 40 years is more than some violent crimes. I guess I was just thinking if it's primarily a property-based crime, then he mostly should be paying damages. The strong jail time amounts are a double edged sword; certainly we want to punish crime, but it's also literally draconian to offer too much jail time for certain crimes.
Also housing's kind of a touchy subject: while I'm not advocating for squatting, the hoarding of real estate and letting rents get out of control is disgusting and I'm not as concerned about squatters until housing is made more affordable. I've heard of the OP stories though and that sounds like something above simple squatting, some kind of squat-to-own loophole scheme.
I think so.
KeK- He's going to learn the "Penal" program. (Pun intended both ways).
Howls
Sounds like the owner has some political clout.
Probably
Sounds like he is in trouble for falsifying documents and not squatting by itself. If he had just said "Yep I'm a junkie and I live here now.", would anything have even happened?
Yes, I wonder if anything would happen.
Isnt it amazing that he did the same stuff in New York and never was charged?
NY, probably OR and WA and CA would be the same.
Wow! SO GREAT! Now we can pay for his:
-Shelter
-Meals
-Intercourse
-Drug habits unavoidable in prison.
-Commissary
-Therapy and other rehabilitation provided in prison.
-etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, TAXATION IS THEFT
I don't want to pay.
The foreigners investments must be protected at all costs (burden ours)
LOL. Sad
Excellent outcome, now spread across to the UK please!
Amen.
40 years!!! Fuck me you wouldn't get that in England if you committed mass murder. Ah well FAFO
LOL, sad, isn't it?
Politician?