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Can any of you frogs verify this? Trump to end birthright citizenship and mandate voter ID (media.gab.com)
posted 1 year ago by CheekyBastard 1 year ago by CheekyBastard +158 / -0
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– Mr_A 15 points 1 year ago +15 / -0

He's talked about it before, in his first term and on the campaign trail for his first term.

It rests on the argument that the 14th amendment says all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens. "Birthright citizenship" completely ignores that "subject to jurisdiction" part. But if you apply that portion, which is clearly written in the amendment, then someone born here who then flies back to China (or wherever) at age 1 would obviously not be subject to the jurisdiction of US and state laws, and wouldn't be a citizen.

So it's basically a reinterpretation of existing law.

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– anti-ager 10 points 1 year ago +10 / -0

parents should at least be legal residents

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– Truth2Light 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

Residents don’t hold allegiance to this country. Citizens do.

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– anti-ager 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

People with green cards/ permanent legal residents seems like a fair trade-off to get rid of the birth tourism and anchor babies of illegals.

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– Truth2Light 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

I don’t think citizenship should be granted freely. When the child, who was born and raised in this country, of the legal resident reaches 18, he/she should be able to choose if he/she wants to become a citizen of this country or that of his parents. Then that adult child if he/she chooses can then go through the naturalization process like everyone else.

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– anti-ager 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

at some point our ancestors came here and all their descendants were citizens without a bunch of rigamaroll. we just need to end the abuse of birth tourism and illegal's anchor babies

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– Truth2Light 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

I definitely agree we should put an end to birth tourism and illegal anchor babies. Although, I don’t think green card holders and permanent legal residents should be allowed the right to anchor babies either.

If green card holders and permanent legal residents want their children to become legal citizens, then they, themselves, should go through the Naturalization process, pledging allegiance to this country; otherwise they would be raising a child whose parents allegiance is to another country.

That’s just my personal opinion.

I do believe that there are plenty of people, although they are from another country, in this country who love this country just as much as most citizens do. There are also, unfortunately, citizens of this country who do not love this country at all or not as much as those who are not citizens, but reside here legally, yet love this country with all their heart.

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– Wtf_socialismreally 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

I disagree. It is not that hard to become a resident in a country, it is more difficult to become a citizen.

MAYBE a certain time limit on how long that person has been a resident. MAYBE.

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– HenryBowman1984 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

Spawn dropped on USA soil are subject to the jurisdiction of the nation of their parent’s citizenship.

It really is as simple as that.

Just because it’s been interpreted incorrectly for so many years doesn’t invalidate it.

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– Mr_A 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Agreed.

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– praying71 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Some countries don’t have extradition agreement with the US, hence the criminals (e.g. with dual citizenship) are not subject to jurisdiction….

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– Grady_Wilson 10 points 1 year ago +10 / -0

Birthright citizenship does not exist in the Constitution.

It was invented by the SCOTUS out of thin air, just like the fake abortion right.

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– theW0knessHurts 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

It was a campaign promise

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– bcfromfl 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

Make it retroactive too.

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– tactical_potato 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

What's the deal with Matt Wallace. He seems to be kind of a sensationalist?

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– BerlinWallCrosser 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

The 14th amendment gives him, or any president, the authority to do this.

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– lurkingintheshadows 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Here's a good thread explaining why birthright citizenship is a fabrication, not law.

Read the posts a couple above this one:

https://x.com/GregLoc40342535/status/1819850792003858515

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– lurkingintheshadows 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

I have flown to Asia many times over the years and EVERY flight has had MANY new-born (days old) babies with their parents flying home. If that is happening on nearly every flight, dozens or more flights a day for decades......

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– HenryBowman1984 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Okokok…any children born of slaves in the USA can apply for citizenship.

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– mac1221 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Agreed. Such a long standing court precedence would not be an easy fix and the current court is unlikely to redefine.

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– AfterGlow 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

There goes the blue states.

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– PhDinNY 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

It's who counts the votes that matters.

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– CheekyBastard [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

I don't have an X account and saw this on Gab. Is this legit?

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– TheLetterK 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

We can only hope. We need him and Vivek challenging the status of children born from illegals and all the chain migration. Get them all out!

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– PaNix 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Count on it.

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– orangetastic1 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Whatever is decided, wouldn't hurt to require a DNA test to ensure the parents are who they are asserted to be.

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– 5547 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Yes and we are extremely happy... MAGA....

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– Moosemeadow 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Thank God about time at lease the “DEAD” can still VOTE. (Satire)

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– Shalimar 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Ok? And? Is poster for or against that?

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– GGRockz 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Hope so.

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– ArmyLady 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

about time

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