EDIT AND ALERT: Evidence that Luigi was set up: https://x.com/Melissa_WongMT/status/1866295785014571502
What's not coming out much yet is that Luigi's family is ALSO involved in the "medical establishment." According to local news (https://www.thebaltimorebanner.com/national/luigi-mangione-united-ceo-killing-3PUAWJU4JNCPBPA5BOMTUENAVE/):
"His late grandfather, Nicholas Mangione Sr., who died in 2008, was a self-made real estate developer who owned country clubs, NURSING HOMES and a radio station."
"Family businesses also include the Lorien Health Services nursing homes and radio station WCBM-AM." (Think Medicare and Medicaid and the massive fuckery these people would know about.) Will this family now keep its mouths shut to keep Luigi out of prison and protect other family members?
This article has photos both of Luigi and the hostel visitor:
https://www.fox5dc.com/news/united-healthcare-ceo-murder-maryland-neighbors-react
They don't seem the same to me. Luigi seems way more swarthy and with a widen face.
When arrested, Luigi shouts something about this being an “insult to the intelligence of the American people.” Sort of strange for anything other than a frame job.
Luigi's bio and reports from friends don't fit the narrative well. And he might have been kidnapped the last few months, with evidence planted on him.
There is that innocent until proven guilty thing, after all.
The whole thing has a psyop feel to it, doesn't it? So what's real and what's fake?
Is it a coincidence that a possible shutting-up of people happens right before Trump is in office?
AND what do the numbers in the Conspiracy Theory # in the title add up to? Ha!
EDIT: And in related news, massive national liquor shortage caused by huge shipments to Nancy Pelosi's office.
I got this from a post on p.win: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1866554646749467048.html
There was a rumour on reddit, almost from the start, that the murdered CEO was going to testify against Pelosi about her being the queen of insider trading.
I'm confused. I thought it is legal for congress to do insider trading
If by "legal" you mean that "nobody's been arresting them" then, yes.
Nancy, is that you??
In summary, while insider trading by members of Congress is legally prohibited under the STOCK Act, the practical enforcement due to constitutional protections, combined with public perception and ongoing legislative discussions, paints a complex picture where reform is actively debated.
Too sober.
Thanks! This looks like it's going somewhere.
This entire thing stinks of bullshit. I heard a report blurb yesterday that he was arrested at that McDonald’s by a police officer with the last name of Fry. Get the fuck out of here.
I believe it was a setup. 👀 Eyes on Pelosi.
Why was a stranger the one who recognize the MK-Ultra recipient, and not Pelosi nor any member of his family?
I was snooping around the 'net, and there are people interested in this topic who say the "manifesto" some of us read here (the one where mom was in pain) is a fake.
His real one is short and to the point, claiming he was a lone gunman, and it "just had to be done" because they (the insurance industry) are "parasites."
Very different "manifesto" from the other one.
No idea which, if either, is real.
But if the short one is, then there is no mention of medical pain for mama. It also reads like it was written at Langley HQ, to me.
Will be interesting to see if the "I did it because of mom's pain" story holds up in court or if it is discarded and forgotten.
All the pics of the shooting don't identify this kid. He could be totally set up. The news said he was right wing but a climate activist. How stupid are they
To u/WeAreThePlan OP: This is an excellent post to get the conversation started on what role each of the major players we know of so far (emphasis there!) seem to be playing. This of course, is subject to change.
So far, the MSM has alternately shown CEO Brian Johnson in both a good and bad light; the same goes for the suspected assassin. They have indicated that UNH was under an investigation for insider trading by DOJ and that Johnson was set to testify, but of course that doesnt make him the epicenter of corruption and importantly, I think, no one has spoken to the actual level of cooperation he had with DOJ so far, nor how cooperative he was expected to be in future testimony.
He may have decided to capitulate totally and give all the info he knew to DOJ, whether that would prevent him from serving time or maybe if had a change of heart and wanted to come clean. Such things are known to happen to people when they are faced an opportunity to tell the truth and find vindication.
In that case, the hit would not have been based on addressing any past grievances with CEO Johnson concerning the actions of his company and their treatment of consumers, on either an individual basis or writ large. The purpose of the "deletion" would've been to keep him from "spilling the beans" as it were, either on his own personal actions or those taking place within his company, or even bringing to light people and events outside his company or the healthcare industry in general. Its a wide net we have to cast at this stage.
With respect to the suspected shooter, the legacy media has also adopted a polarized viewpoint. They've proferred a lot of noise about the potential level of sophistication of the hit; with good faith and the current information we possess, I respectfully dismiss all such discussion as naught but hot air, a red herring designed to distract from more critical issues at hand.
They have at least FEIGNED sympathetic tones when it comes to the motive of addressing personal grievances, if indeed that were the penultimate reasons behind the assassination. With Americans of all political stripes coming forward to offer their own stories about UNH; denial of claims, deferral of coverage expected, delays in remuneration from the provider, etc. there is a palpable lack of sympathy that must be addressed. However, the hard line is drawn at taking a life to mediate that unsympathetic treatment by an insurer, which the media has also been clear to draw hard lines at.
Yes yes, all very droll I hear you say and you'll find no disagreement from me. However the most recent set of events in our timeline is where all this bland rhetoric seems to become important, largely because the tightly wound story the media has spun so far has been unraveled significantly by the capture of Luigi and subsequent investigations into his online imprint and personal character.
There WAS a limited hangout with pretty tight borders regarding this story. That spot has been blown, as they say, and desperately the MSM will be trying to develop a new one in the coming days.
Chiefly what's at play here is the almost laughable scenario given to us as the events leading to the capture of Luigi Mangione. For those of us who were already dubious of a "lone gunman" scenario being trotted out to account for everything, the suspect's capture represented a conclusion to a setup we saw coming in some of the details at the initial scene. NYPD was reporting candy wrappers, a water bottle and a cell phone left at the scene.
I regarded that with suspicion and contempt, as a simple viewing of the footage would cement the idea that this shooter was far too careful to have ignored details like this during his planning and execution. Now the latest news of his capture at a random PA McDonald's, and the murder weapon as well as a manifesto discovered right on his person, has become too much to bear.
The range of Mr. Mangione from genius level intellect to acting like a schmuck is too bipolar for any logical person to accept. It is as he stated an insult to the intelligence of the American people. Couple that with a YouTube event seeming to indicate he had foreknowledge of his own capture and the true roles of the characters and their motivations both are strewn about wildly on the chessboard.
In my experience, its generally safe to go the opposite direction of the mainstream media and look for clues there. If you find any at all you're most likely on the right track to solving the equation.
Thus it will be interesting to see if they release that manifesto at all or even if samples can be garnered by the small cadre of investigatory journalists still working today. I say this because Mr. Mangione is a youth with an online profile that has since been wiped; and at his level of intellect there is little doubt he will have an inimitable style of writing, even frequently used vocabulary that will mark his communication style. We have pieces of a commencement speech already; doubtless that our Internet sleuths can easily spot a mismatch if given access to the manifesto.
At this stage my inclination is to put stock in the scenario where Luigi Mangione is a functional patsy: if he DID carry out the act himself he was blackmailed into doing so. If he was chosen merely to be caught and blamed for the murder than there are other factors at play. I am speculating now that Luigi Mangione was a potential whistleblower on insider trading activities he had knowledge of and sought to bring light to.
By claiming his piece in declaring him the party responsible for the murder and pinning the direct evidence squarely on him, the [DS] fits a pattern it has been famous for since the incident involving Oswald and Jack Ruby. They succeed in silencing multiple voices willing to speak truth, who were also direct witnesses to the criminality and who it was linked to up the chain. They ALSO do a good job of muddying the waters, creating unclear motives for the assassin and the victim alike.
If we see them endeavoring to fully or heavily redact evidence the prosecution obtains to point to his guilt, while obfuscating anything with exsculpory potential for the defense, we should know the answer.
Can we see another image of the assassin sans mask, line it up next to Luigi? High definition preferably? Let's get a publicly available download to some of that cell phone data. Any texts to or from a member of the Pelosi family on there? Any 'government contractors' in contact?
Thanks for allowing me to give this treatment and share my thoughts on what has happened so far, OP.
Great comment, especially "The range of Mr. Mangione from genius level intellect to acting like a schmuck is too bipolar for any logical person to accept." This is the essence of the problem with the narrative.
u/#q326
False flag indeed to distract us from the House seats steal.
Sorry but I think the REAL conspiracy is this nutty and intentionally bizarre story that doesnt seem to add up at all is simply bait to DISTRACT us (i.e. joe normie AND and the online autists) form the 2024 election rigging where they only just finished counting in the same week as this supposed assassination just took place - and every single seat they took an extra 4 WEEKS TO COUNT went solely to the Democrats.
Now it's being memory holed and swept under the carpet with this nonsense and meaningless psyop. And we fall for it EVERY DAMN TIME.
Here's more info to add, everyone needs to add what they find so we can see more clearly what's going on, each day new info comes out it seems. When you go to the post, scroll down into comments, I have some sauce for the post.
https://greatawakening.win/p/19A0k6R05v/thats-a-mighty-fine-coincidence-/c/
Here's another by @Joys1Daughter ....
https://greatawakening.win/p/19A0k8hFAb/nancy-pelosi-and-her-brother-tho/c/
And another by @xchainlinkx
https://greatawakening.win/p/19A0k7aUbx/nancy-pelosi-murdered-brian-thom/c/
I saw this movie once where this guy was blackmailed, kidnapped, told to dress a certain way and go to certain locations and show his face to cameras or else someone he loves would die... they could very well do that to him and his family.
Luigi's family owns media properties in Maryland. Radio stations, I think.
The Patriarch was Nicholas. His dad immigrated from Sicily and hey lived in Little Italy. He was appointed to the Baltimore City Board of Ed by Mayor Thomas D'Alesandro (Pelosi connection). There were grumblings about mob connections associated with Nicholas, who chalked it up to stereotyping him.
Antonino Mangione is a Maryland Delegate from Baltimore County. A republican and member of the Health and Social Services subcommittee during COVID.
Don't forget that Pelosi's father was a former Mayor of Baltimore and Representative in Congress. He was always chumming around with the Mafioso in Baltimore.
Just more weirdness to add to the situation.
Very good! Very good indeed! Linguine may have even pulled the trigger, but I still think this was a paid assassination by the puppet masters. Has a clownish sense to it.
Sorry but I think the REAL conspiracy is this nutty and intentionally bizarre story that doesnt seem to add up at all is simply bait to DISTRACT us (i.e. joe normie AND and the online autists) form the 2024 election rigging where they only just finished counting in the same week as this supposed assassination just took place - and every single seat they took an extra 4 WEEKS TO COUNT went solely to the Democrats.
Now it's being memory holed and swept under the carpet with this nonsense and meaningless psyop. And we fall for it EVERY DAMN TIME.
What are the big investigators on our side doing right now? The Charlie Kirks, Alex Jones, Laura Loomers etc? They are focusing all their time and attention on unravelling this tangled story to lead them up the garden path to nowhere and ensure they avoid the REAL story of yet more election stealing.
It's all so tiresome.
Good point. Fortunately, on this board, I think we can handle multiple conspiracy theories at one time. But in general it's a problem.
I’m worried about it drawing attention to 3D printing…
They are trying to "Covid-19" us again. Don't let that happen.
NANCY PELOSI - icymi
https://nitter.poast.org/ShadowofEzra/status/1866561871446180239
AND: The shooter and Luigi Mangione's eyebrows are different. Look up photos of both and compare. Luigi's a patsy. It’s not the same man.
Shooter vs Luigi Mangione: https://img07.rl0.ru/afisha/e-x750i/daily.afisha.ru/uploads/images/3/38/338c75d8536434aaa6ae91b5543f775d.png
Back packs are different, hoodie is different color, than photo of shooter. Any shooter wouldn’t be sitting with incriminating evidence in backpack looking like the real shooter. This whole deal seems way off …
One more thing, why didn’t he ditch the gun and masks in his backpack? He is either an idiot or brain dead.
everything is fake and gay. to be honest the video iseen of the suspect looked like a mask.
When was it confirmed that any of these people were set to testify against Nancy?
Just saw where he is charged with 2nd degree murder. I don’t understand why if it was planned and premeditated why it is not 1st degree murder.
As for complexion appearance, lighting is everything. The authorities have announced a fingerprint match between Luigi and the murder weapon. This does not "look" like a psyop. It looks like an assassination.
I'm wary of fingerprint match-ups with moveable objects. This could still be a set-up.
In your mind. Why are you so insistent on exculpating a murderer?