Bad idea the USPS was a big part of the election fraud and Pelosi gave them 20B as a reward. Besides that there are more and more cases of fraud and abuse. They lied about certified letter deliveries back in the 90s and just a few years ago I caught them lying about a package delivery. They drop off those sorry we missed you notes without ever following their own rules to attempt delivery.
The Post Office is rife with DEI workers, it's not the haven for retired military it once was... We don't need to increase census fraud and keep them away from my SS too
All he's saying is that the postman already knows the household he visits and it's members! The corruption within the organization is a different thing! One step at a time! Corruption is systemic and the idea that it's ok, has to be rooted slowly! In my country their are kids that when asked what they want to be; they say I want to be a Custom Officer because you can hustle a lot of money! What's troubling is that the populace does not bat an eye, like this is normal! I rather live in an old crumbling house than enriching myself by illegal means!
We need a new census before 2030. The last one was messed up and with all the deportations and expected deportations, federal dollars and Congressional seats need to be reallocated.
Um nope. I worked the 2010 census and ran a crew that enumerated OLQ's - other living quarters as in the woods, under thr boardwalk, in crates and truvks. Postal workers don't do that.
The Constitution includes the census to count every person living in the United States.
The plan was to count every person living in the newly created United States of America, and to use that count to determine representation in the Congress.
This. They sent me to any structure that might house people. I visited a kids playhouse in a back yard and the back of a strip club. I went to one place back in the woods and I came upon a bunch of naked people dancing around a bonfire -skip, come back later.
"We spend $40 billion every 10 years doing the census. And that means we hire 625,000 people. And they go, and they rent cars and gas, and you pay them food... They go to every household and count the people."
"What department do we already have that already employs 625,000 people? It's got cars, already has gas, and goes to every household. [Answer: USPS]."
"They can go to your house when you have a baby and give you the form for Social Security. And the 20,000 Social Security officers that we have, we just don't need them. We actually can do real customer service."
"Let's use the assets of the government to make us better and save us money."
They only go to the homes of people who don't respond by mail. I was a NRFU Enumerator for the 2010 Census during the Obama Great Recession. Lots of folks on military bases didn't want to be counted. They were the biggest group. Others just couldn't be bothered and others didn't want Uncle Sam to know where they were - hiding. One guy asked me to move my car from in front of his house because I looked like the police. kek!
Gonna need to change some thinking because postmen like the fact they only drop your mail and their day is finished in 5 hours. I hear a mail carrier at the local cigar shop talking about it all the time. I'm retired so I'll be there just after lunch and he is already done for the day.
Oh shoot. I got a family member who works for the SS. If they lose their job, that’s a major life change for them. I’ve been telling them tho. Stuff is gonna change. I got the whole “we ain’t worried”. What about now I wonder?
Decennial Census workers usually only go to those that don't answer the census via mail or online. Make the census less intrusive and more people would be willing to answer it.
Did a little looking, and surprised to discover that the latest 2020 census form is a lot less intrusive that the 1960 census form.
Of course 2020, unlike 1960 form ask about same sex relationships, but still only has Male and Female choices for Sex, and no questions about Gender, which is surprising.
The 1960's form delves much more into questions like: Washing Machines, Televisions, Electricity, Plumbing, that are common to ever household in 2020. Or maybe this is due to the 1960 form combining Housing, and Persons information into one form. You will see below that from 1970 to 2000 this was split up.
Between 1790 and 1820, U.S. Marshals conducting the census were responsible for supplying paper and writing-in headings related to the questions asked (i.e., name, age, sex, race, etc.). In 1830, Congress authorized the printing of uniform schedules for use throughout the United States.
The 1940 Census included separate questionnaires to count the population and collect housing data. The 1960 and later censuses combined population and housing questions onto a single questionnaire mailed to households or completed during a census taker's visit.
Between 1970 and 2000, the U.S. Census Bureau used two questionnaires. Most households received a short-form questionnaire asking a minimum number of questions. A sample of households received a long-form questionnaire that included additional questions about the household. The 2010 Census had just one questionnaire consisting of ten questions.
This report contains detailed information on the questionnaires and instructions used for each census, plus individual histories of each census.
I specifically mentioned the Decennial Census - the one mandated by the Constitution. Census, IMO, should consist of a headcount of LEGAL U.S. Residents/Citizens and nothing else. No personal data whatsoever. The number one reason people do not answer is because they think it collects information that they don't think belongs on the census. Number two reason is they forgot to do it. The Census bureau has ongoing surveys to handle things like housing and employment data. How do I know this? I've worked for them a few times in the past, both during Decennials and doing the ongoing field surveys.
Bad idea the USPS was a big part of the election fraud and Pelosi gave them 20B as a reward. Besides that there are more and more cases of fraud and abuse. They lied about certified letter deliveries back in the 90s and just a few years ago I caught them lying about a package delivery. They drop off those sorry we missed you notes without ever following their own rules to attempt delivery.
The Post Office is rife with DEI workers, it's not the haven for retired military it once was... We don't need to increase census fraud and keep them away from my SS too
All he's saying is that the postman already knows the household he visits and it's members! The corruption within the organization is a different thing! One step at a time! Corruption is systemic and the idea that it's ok, has to be rooted slowly! In my country their are kids that when asked what they want to be; they say I want to be a Custom Officer because you can hustle a lot of money! What's troubling is that the populace does not bat an eye, like this is normal! I rather live in an old crumbling house than enriching myself by illegal means!
Census and Postal Worker seem to be similar folk IME.
Came here to write this. The USPS is a partisan organization that is anti-conservative and will happily throw your mail in a ditch or a shredder.
They will queer the census just like they queer our elections.
First they need to RIF them then rehire non DEI workers. They could incentives the census work a little bit.
We need to do our census again. It's speculated that Texas would have three additional seats in the US Congress if done legitimately.
We need a new census before 2030. The last one was messed up and with all the deportations and expected deportations, federal dollars and Congressional seats need to be reallocated.
Well duh. an excellent idea, of course.
Makes sense, they know the neighborhood and addresses.
They know who lives in their neighborhoods and they know who is illegal.
Um nope. I worked the 2010 census and ran a crew that enumerated OLQ's - other living quarters as in the woods, under thr boardwalk, in crates and truvks. Postal workers don't do that.
Those people shouldn't even be counted as they are mostly transients. A census is about permanent residency.
The Constitution includes the census to count every person living in the United States.
https://www.census.gov/programs-surveys/decennial-census/about/census-constitution.html
This. They sent me to any structure that might house people. I visited a kids playhouse in a back yard and the back of a strip club. I went to one place back in the woods and I came upon a bunch of naked people dancing around a bonfire -skip, come back later.
Yes. Garages, chicken coops, sheds. Quite an adventure. To this day whenever I pass a shady looking structure I can't help but exclaim "OLQ!"
Yup! I'm also scarred that way!! kek!
"We spend $40 billion every 10 years doing the census. And that means we hire 625,000 people. And they go, and they rent cars and gas, and you pay them food... They go to every household and count the people."
"What department do we already have that already employs 625,000 people? It's got cars, already has gas, and goes to every household. [Answer: USPS]."
"They can go to your house when you have a baby and give you the form for Social Security. And the 20,000 Social Security officers that we have, we just don't need them. We actually can do real customer service."
"Let's use the assets of the government to make us better and save us money."
They only go to the homes of people who don't respond by mail. I was a NRFU Enumerator for the 2010 Census during the Obama Great Recession. Lots of folks on military bases didn't want to be counted. They were the biggest group. Others just couldn't be bothered and others didn't want Uncle Sam to know where they were - hiding. One guy asked me to move my car from in front of his house because I looked like the police. kek!
Gonna need to change some thinking because postmen like the fact they only drop your mail and their day is finished in 5 hours. I hear a mail carrier at the local cigar shop talking about it all the time. I'm retired so I'll be there just after lunch and he is already done for the day.
I think he is calling out all three as fuckery, but I could be wrong. It's kind of like washing your car with sandpaper.
Great idea. Also more job security for the postal workers.
Didn’t they use the mail for census in the past—70s? I just remember getting the long questionnaires in the mail.
They're not even capable of delivering mail reliably and the had a quarter of a millennium to practice.
Can we get a glitter that says "Genius Move"
Oh shoot. I got a family member who works for the SS. If they lose their job, that’s a major life change for them. I’ve been telling them tho. Stuff is gonna change. I got the whole “we ain’t worried”. What about now I wonder?
Decennial Census workers usually only go to those that don't answer the census via mail or online. Make the census less intrusive and more people would be willing to answer it.
Did a little looking, and surprised to discover that the latest 2020 census form is a lot less intrusive that the 1960 census form.
Of course 2020, unlike 1960 form ask about same sex relationships, but still only has Male and Female choices for Sex, and no questions about Gender, which is surprising.
The 1960's form delves much more into questions like: Washing Machines, Televisions, Electricity, Plumbing, that are common to ever household in 2020. Or maybe this is due to the 1960 form combining Housing, and Persons information into one form. You will see below that from 1970 to 2000 this was split up.
Between 1790 and 1820, U.S. Marshals conducting the census were responsible for supplying paper and writing-in headings related to the questions asked (i.e., name, age, sex, race, etc.). In 1830, Congress authorized the printing of uniform schedules for use throughout the United States.
The 1940 Census included separate questionnaires to count the population and collect housing data. The 1960 and later censuses combined population and housing questions onto a single questionnaire mailed to households or completed during a census taker's visit.
Between 1970 and 2000, the U.S. Census Bureau used two questionnaires. Most households received a short-form questionnaire asking a minimum number of questions. A sample of households received a long-form questionnaire that included additional questions about the household. The 2010 Census had just one questionnaire consisting of ten questions.
This report contains detailed information on the questionnaires and instructions used for each census, plus individual histories of each census.
Here you can see different years.
I specifically mentioned the Decennial Census - the one mandated by the Constitution. Census, IMO, should consist of a headcount of LEGAL U.S. Residents/Citizens and nothing else. No personal data whatsoever. The number one reason people do not answer is because they think it collects information that they don't think belongs on the census. Number two reason is they forgot to do it. The Census bureau has ongoing surveys to handle things like housing and employment data. How do I know this? I've worked for them a few times in the past, both during Decennials and doing the ongoing field surveys.
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