A Republican no vote on the CR, regardless of reason, is a lifeline to the Dems and the DS. The only glimmer of hope the Dems have is a Government shutdown.
If the Government shuts down the DOGE autists stop working. The ICE deportations slow or stop. President Trump’s frenetic pace of exposing and stopping the DS will grind to a standstill.
What DOGE is doing should be music to Massie’s ears. DOGE has concretely exposed more fraud, waste, and abuse in six weeks than Massie has in his 13 years as a Congressman. Why would he stand in the way of even more exposures?
As slim as the Republican majority is in the House, a Republican no vote on this CR is a vote against the agenda that got President Trump elected. That’s why President Trump is calling him out.
Great job. It s however, sad that you to explain it to someone like they are a 5 year-old. F Massie and his principles when saving the country is on the line. Same thing to Rand Paul. Must have something to do with Kentucky inbreeds.
I’m not trying to beat on Massie. I kind of feel bad for him because the world is changing faster than he can grasp. He can’t envision a post-DOGE government, or a treasury that is actually flush with cash. He seems to be stuck in the world of artificial scarcity.
He only needs to have loyalty to a cause greater than his unquestioned beliefs. Not everything in life is black or white as his "principled" thinking seems to indicate to him. As they say, "You can't fix stupid."
Very true. No one is suggesting we spend like drunken sailors. President Trump has been telling Congress a balanced budget is possible. And, making it pretty clear he wants the country to have significant financial reserves.
Looking at govt. spending fraud isn't really doing much tangible good when democrat judges and the snake SCOTUS just allows the fraud spending to continue anyways.
Fuck it. Shut the whole motherfucker down. I bet that actually stops fraud spending, at least temporarily. We can continue looking at the rest of the fraud at a later date.
Let us not forget that there republicans cashing in on that fraud spending too.
Maybe this is the same style play that Trump and Johnson pulled off. I’ll give it 2 weeks and see. I don’t think k trump would publicly attack an ally unless it was on purpose and that ally is helping run an op. Maybe this is a loyalty test to see who squirms.
His wife passed away recently, that may explain the apparent weight loss. We don't know the cause of her passing, or at least I haven't read anywhere how or why she died. Maybe the deep state sent a message. Who knows?
I had forgotten about that - thanks. I see him a fair amount on OAN, and I just saw his changed appearance about a week ago on Dan Ball's show.
I think you may be spot on. He used to look happy and comfy. Now he looks serious, almost like a bodyguard. If I had to guess, I'd say he likely carries now to protect himself and the rest of his family. He has the look of a new concealed carrier - the one where they realize they suddenly have more responsibility with a gun on their person. It usually goes away once they get used to carrying in a few weeks or so and realize it is a normal thing to do.
This new budget would continue to fund the very waste and fraud that DOGE has exposed. That’s a bitter pill to swallow. The people responsible for this are the weak speaker and fellow republican congressmen who didn’t do their job.
Have you noticed how many times this situation has played out before over the last 10 years, and rarely, if ever, seems to end with an outcome we don’t like?
We also don’t typically really get why it’s happening in the moment.
Neither that I’ve seen, anyway.
Imo a better approach to things like this is “Trump Engages Massie on Opposition and Primarying Narrative”, eyes on + analysis of connections, than being concerned about an “attack”.
Kayfabe to the left of me, kayfabe to the right, here I am!
Sad that he only takes a strong position on those who push back against Israel and don't have an AIPAC guy. Folks, if you take a step back and really look at who is calling the shots here. Very sad.
Bongino just gave the best explanation and he is right unless this is just kayfabe. Massie votes conservative but does not see the big picture of what will happen in 3 months with the next bill.
It is what it is. It actually does cut something like 6-8 billion, and would've cut more except some money had to be added to fund the ongoing deportations and of course DOGE. The spending on both of those is absolutely necessary and will save a ton of money as they complete their missions. Remember - DOGE is just a 2 yr mission and it's last function will be to shut themselves down.
You are almost correct. It is a continuing resolution and temporarily funds the government until the real bill (budget or - God forbid - an omnibus) is passed.
You are wrong on the "senate confirmation". A CR is a bill - just like any other bill. As it is a spending bill the House must take the lead (or the Senate can make one but the House must make it their own). All spending bills MUST originate in the House.
The House makes the bill, passes it, it goes to the Senate where they will likely change it and pass it back to the House. The House again makes it their own, passes it back to the Senate, and they have to pass it as well or repeat the process. Once the same bill passes the House and then the Senate, it goes to POTUS for either a signature or a veto. There are other important parts, like going to committee, but these are the main requirements.
All bills have to pass both houses of CONgress and be signed by POTUS to be law. Even the stupid ones that rename post offices for some retiring rep.
CONgress do these pretty much every year because they can't get a budget deal, both sides always want to add pork for themselves or their districts, and the other side delays and threatens to shut the govt down if they don't get their pork. It really should be called a CC - CONgressional Chicken.
It's been so long since we had a budget bill or even a clean CR that we are still operating on COVID spending levels.
A Republican no vote on the CR, regardless of reason, is a lifeline to the Dems and the DS. The only glimmer of hope the Dems have is a Government shutdown.
If the Government shuts down the DOGE autists stop working. The ICE deportations slow or stop. President Trump’s frenetic pace of exposing and stopping the DS will grind to a standstill.
What DOGE is doing should be music to Massie’s ears. DOGE has concretely exposed more fraud, waste, and abuse in six weeks than Massie has in his 13 years as a Congressman. Why would he stand in the way of even more exposures?
As slim as the Republican majority is in the House, a Republican no vote on this CR is a vote against the agenda that got President Trump elected. That’s why President Trump is calling him out.
Massie is exposing himself by opposing what he has claimed to stand for. Exposing corruption only frightens the corrupt.
Good take!
This.
Great job. It s however, sad that you to explain it to someone like they are a 5 year-old. F Massie and his principles when saving the country is on the line. Same thing to Rand Paul. Must have something to do with Kentucky inbreeds.
I’m not trying to beat on Massie. I kind of feel bad for him because the world is changing faster than he can grasp. He can’t envision a post-DOGE government, or a treasury that is actually flush with cash. He seems to be stuck in the world of artificial scarcity.
He only needs to have loyalty to a cause greater than his unquestioned beliefs. Not everything in life is black or white as his "principled" thinking seems to indicate to him. As they say, "You can't fix stupid."
Very true. No one is suggesting we spend like drunken sailors. President Trump has been telling Congress a balanced budget is possible. And, making it pretty clear he wants the country to have significant financial reserves.
Then maybe the CR should be Conservatively based. It isn't it's another spending not cutting CR
Looking at govt. spending fraud isn't really doing much tangible good when democrat judges and the snake SCOTUS just allows the fraud spending to continue anyways.
Fuck it. Shut the whole motherfucker down. I bet that actually stops fraud spending, at least temporarily. We can continue looking at the rest of the fraud at a later date.
Let us not forget that there republicans cashing in on that fraud spending too.
Brings attention to his stance, even democrats will look at what Massie supports.
He may be all of the things stated here, but he is not following what his constituents want.
Maybe this is the same style play that Trump and Johnson pulled off. I’ll give it 2 weeks and see. I don’t think k trump would publicly attack an ally unless it was on purpose and that ally is helping run an op. Maybe this is a loyalty test to see who squirms.
I have liked Massie, but he is starting to concern me. Have you guys seen him lately? He doesn't even look the same.
Here is his official portrait: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Massie#/media/File:Thomas_Massie_official_portrait,_2022.jpg
Here is him from a Yahoo story today: https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-vows-lead-charge-against-142607599.html
What the hell?
His wife passed away recently, that may explain the apparent weight loss. We don't know the cause of her passing, or at least I haven't read anywhere how or why she died. Maybe the deep state sent a message. Who knows?
I had forgotten about that - thanks. I see him a fair amount on OAN, and I just saw his changed appearance about a week ago on Dan Ball's show.
I think you may be spot on. He used to look happy and comfy. Now he looks serious, almost like a bodyguard. If I had to guess, I'd say he likely carries now to protect himself and the rest of his family. He has the look of a new concealed carrier - the one where they realize they suddenly have more responsibility with a gun on their person. It usually goes away once they get used to carrying in a few weeks or so and realize it is a normal thing to do.
I'm torn. I support Trump but Massie is just awesome.
That means something is wrong. But what?
Maybe something happened and Massie is compromised now?
Then maybe the CR should be Conservatively based. It isn't it's another spending not cutting CR
This new budget would continue to fund the very waste and fraud that DOGE has exposed. That’s a bitter pill to swallow. The people responsible for this are the weak speaker and fellow republican congressmen who didn’t do their job.
17D Chess
You'll understand in 2 weeks.
: )
Massie isn’t owned by AIPAC. Trump is. The end.
Have you noticed how many times this situation has played out before over the last 10 years, and rarely, if ever, seems to end with an outcome we don’t like?
We also don’t typically really get why it’s happening in the moment.
Neither that I’ve seen, anyway.
Imo a better approach to things like this is “Trump Engages Massie on Opposition and Primarying Narrative”, eyes on + analysis of connections, than being concerned about an “attack”.
Kayfabe to the left of me, kayfabe to the right, here I am!
Massie won't have to worry about casting his vote because he won't stand a chance when Trump unleashes on him in the midterms.
They (GEOTUS &) making a strategic move perhaps to keep the narrative focused. It would be a huge warning regarding loyalty.
Combat Tactics Mr. Ryan
It’s 5D chess, frens. Do NOT, for a single second, think that literally ANYTHING currently taking place wasn’t properly planned for. Good day!
Israel
Sad that he only takes a strong position on those who push back against Israel and don't have an AIPAC guy. Folks, if you take a step back and really look at who is calling the shots here. Very sad.
Bongino just gave the best explanation and he is right unless this is just kayfabe. Massie votes conservative but does not see the big picture of what will happen in 3 months with the next bill.
Then maybe the CR should be Conservatively based. It isn't it's another spending not cutting CR
It is what it is. It actually does cut something like 6-8 billion, and would've cut more except some money had to be added to fund the ongoing deportations and of course DOGE. The spending on both of those is absolutely necessary and will save a ton of money as they complete their missions. Remember - DOGE is just a 2 yr mission and it's last function will be to shut themselves down.
Because Trump is playing chess and Massie is to busy virtue signaling rather than accomplishing anything in 13 years.
Stop with the acronyms! We are all supposed to know what "CR" refers to? Well, I don't. Just spell it out ONCE!!
Continuing resolution. It basically funds the government temporarily and doesn’t require senate approval.
You are almost correct. It is a continuing resolution and temporarily funds the government until the real bill (budget or - God forbid - an omnibus) is passed.
You are wrong on the "senate confirmation". A CR is a bill - just like any other bill. As it is a spending bill the House must take the lead (or the Senate can make one but the House must make it their own). All spending bills MUST originate in the House.
The House makes the bill, passes it, it goes to the Senate where they will likely change it and pass it back to the House. The House again makes it their own, passes it back to the Senate, and they have to pass it as well or repeat the process. Once the same bill passes the House and then the Senate, it goes to POTUS for either a signature or a veto. There are other important parts, like going to committee, but these are the main requirements.
All bills have to pass both houses of CONgress and be signed by POTUS to be law. Even the stupid ones that rename post offices for some retiring rep.
Yeah I’m retarded you found me. I was thinking reconciliation and I had that wrong as well. Only needs 51 senate approval no fillabuster.
Excuse my while put the dunce cap on and go sit in the corner.
kek.
And yeah - reconciliation bills only need a simple majority in the Senate (and all bills only need a majority in the house).
That reminds me - this is a fun account to follow on X: https://x.com/IfindRetards
CONgress do these pretty much every year because they can't get a budget deal, both sides always want to add pork for themselves or their districts, and the other side delays and threatens to shut the govt down if they don't get their pork. It really should be called a CC - CONgressional Chicken.
It's been so long since we had a budget bill or even a clean CR that we are still operating on COVID spending levels.