Makes a lot of sense but the normies (atleast the ones I spoke to) are panicking b/c they are watching the msm & just parrotting what they are hearing.
Me? Only the one that has been forced on me by my employers. I've put as little as possible into it.
-Edited to add before I get a bunch of responses about how you can opt out of 401k.
Which, yes, that's true as far as I know.
But I had a couple jobs where it was mandatory to have 401a retirement contributions. Teaching jobs. So yes, those are getting hammered right now. (Not that there was much in there because teachers get paid peanuts).
I prefer to put money into real estate (that I'm living on). Quality furnishings that will last my lifetime, and beyond (not particle board stuff that will be trashed in a few years), art that I appreciate and will most likely improve in value. Enough land to grow extensive kitchen gardens (because homegrown just tastes so much better, I can grow fun varieties like purple carrots, and it's a hobby I enjoy and gives me sunshine and exercise. I can also grow for local farmers markets if I choose.), Also a little room for chickens when I get the time, along with milk goats if things ever really go to hell.
I also have a work garage full of tools that can fix the vast majority of anything that might break around the house, along with those I need for my hobby of refinishing nice old wood furniture idiots toss out on the curb (I live in an area with some of the highest incomes in the nation, along with tons of colleges and universities rich kids attend and just toss their stuff at the end of each semester, so I can just cruise by the dorms and grab what I like) and either keep it or sell it as I see fit. Let's see, what else. Two classic Mercedes-Benz diesel cars from the 1980s that are built like tanks and will never die. A house full of books and games and cds and dvds. A rooftop solar system that can run the fridge and freezers and some lights if things go south. And a little silver and gold bullion because I listened to people here, along with a bunch of vintage and antique silver jewelry that I like to wear (I was born a woman with all the woman bits, though many here think I'm a dude with dangly bits). I also spend a lot on experiences, not things. Travel, mostly.
So, hope that keeps me from being completely fucked, no matter what happens. And, you know, enjoying life in the meantime. 🤷♀️
PS, while I'm thinking of it. For those here that like keeping chickens, have any of you kept American Bresse? They're the cousins (basically) of the Bresse chickens from France.
If any of you have ever eaten true Bresse chicken in France, you know why I'm interested in raising birds like it. I know a lot of the flavor of French Bresse chickens comes from being free ranged and how they're finished and all that. I'm perfectly willing to learn and do whatever needs done.
I'm just wondering if anyone has raised the American Bresse and the experience you had.
I figure if I'm going to go to all the trouble of raising meat birds, I might as well raise the most fabulous meat birds I can find. 🤷♀️
We’ve been well overdue for a major reset. As far as the Markets go.
That and damaging the undue levels of influence Wallstreet and the Financial Sector has over the Economy at large is probably a secondary factor.
A couple words from CEOs of a handful of Finance companies. And you can paralyze the National Economy. That kind of influence, especially from an industry renowned for producing immoral and borderline psychotic individuals, is dangerous
BRICS is kicking in, the rich sold and are dropping prices to shake others out of positions. Then with all that cash on hand they will buy up all the real assets and pump the price to the next level with the low interest rates. Lowering interest rates only helps the rich.
Honestly everyone hoping for a stock market crash is really selfish. There are plenty of normal middle-class people who have their money invested here so to act like it only fucks over the elites is silly. In fact, the elites probably have insider information that allows them to short the market. So, the only people getting fucked over are the out of the loop middle class people.
Seriously wtf is this thread? A bunch of fucking boomers mad they gambled on companies and corporations who they readily admit fuck the public over on a daily basis?
We are supposed to feel bad?
Yeah sorry not even half of my friends are into the stock market like boomers and gen X are. We just started hitting financial prime and it is a mockery compared to what our fathers had.
I view this temporary downturn in the market as a buying opportunity, honestly. Maybe that makes me "selfish". Those invested only "lose" money if they panic and sell when the market is down.
As the saying goes:
The time to buy is when there's blood in the streets
I hate quoting a Rothschild but when you're right, you're right
Most recent example would be the "crash" in Feb. 2020.
If you put money into a typical S&P 500 fund at the bottom of the 2020 crash (Mid-March 2020), you would have more than doubled your money by now, even after the recent "crash". PDJT engineered a quick turn-around then and I fully expect him to do it again this go around too.
No. Private equity is going to take a giant hit. They're already maneuvering to put this all on big bank balance sheets and then get the Fed to rescue them again.
The wheels are already turning. The corporate paper market and the treasury markets are all levered into this in an insane way.
A market crash was always going to happen. The only question was the timing.
I wrote this 9 months ago. Worth seeing again, I think.
Fed chair Paul Volcker figured it out in 1979. To squash jummy cooter's inflation, the market had to crash. He did it by raising the federal funds rate to over 17%, which dumped the economy on its ass, and caused the 80-82 recession. Which was followed, with few hiccups, by the longest bull run in history.
Inflation, and cheap energy are keeping the market floating right now. Legacy media's been doing a bang-up job covering for O'Biden. But people are noticing how hard their wallets are being drained for regular day-to-day items, and even luxury things, like food. He's all but drained the Strategic Oil Reserve. Home sales are stalled, Joe Lunchpail has to earn over 100k now to qualify for a mortgage that's double what it was four years ago. Home inventory average days remaining on market >78 days, reports out this month indicating sellers are having to cut asking prices. O'Biden's rapidly running out of wiggle room.
The crash is coming. Nothing can stop it at this point. It's now merely a race to which happens first - crash or election.
Update:
Three days before the Jan 20 inauguration, O'Biden's Treasury Secretary, Yellen said the gov't would run out of money the 21st. This was deliberate. Legacy media did a bang-up job covering for O'Biden, allowing him to dump this economic disaster on Trump's plate.
Home sales are still stalled. Home inventory average days remaining on market >60 days, reports out this month indicating sellers are having to cut asking prices. In 2025, housing affordability in the U.S. remains at it’s worst levels in decades.
The crash is coming. Nothing can stop it at this point. O'Biden's sole accomplishment was delaying it until after Trump took office, so he can shift the blame.
If Kamala won it would be so much worse. She would have kept it from crashing to shift the blame like Biden did. The video alerts us that this is a positive move. A Trump move. So we know Kamala would not have moved wealth from the rich to the poor like Trump is doing. By tanking their investment portfolios by crashing the market, he cant be making rich and powerful people happy to be losing money. Kamala wouldnt do that for the people.
I kind of have a different take - I think the people that can make the market move are pushing it lower in order to hurt PDJT (and small investors) to see if they can make him backtrack on the tariffs (And make small investors panic sell, feeding the market downturn). Trump knows their playbook and is using it against them. Prices will start coming down on things that effect all people (Gas, Groceries,etc.). People will start having more money left over after paying the bills. Companies will start moving manufacturing back to the US (this is already happening). Wage growth will follow. The stock market will recover.
Everyone will be made right, one way or another. Seriously, we were on the verge of ww3, losing our country and our freedom. Be thankful PDJT won and we didn't have a nuclear war. I have money in the stock market too and mine have taken a beating but I have faith all will be ok.
You have to break the back of these monopolies and end the Feds ability to interfere. Otherwise, they'll swoop in on the dip and snatch up even more, look at every economic "event" of the past 15 years. It's a giant wealth siphon that only goes in one direction.
It already is if we've just had a near extinction level event. A near death experience like that is unbelievably powerful and transformative! Freedom was nearly ended. I we remained free! Take the money! Just dont kill me or put me in a cell.
If you were robbed on the street you'd gladly give your possesions for the lives of everyone you love, right?
I just increased my 401k contributions. I figure it will buy more as the prices drop, then once they start rising again, mine will rise that much faster.
We saw this somewhat during Trump's first term. He would announce a new tariff, or whatever, the market would react and drop, scaring everyone, then it would climb higher than it was. Idiots have too much control over the market.
Reminds me of Christian Bale's character in The Big Short. People were screaming at him to get out of their losing position on his housing market shorts, and he wouldn't. He knew once the housing market tanked, and people quit reacting emotionally, those positions would climb beyond anyone's imagination.
Take a 401k loan. Then get better securities. The interest you pay on the loan is added to your 401k. Prime rate is 7.5%. If you expect to make less than 8.5% then a loan can be a good answer.
Readjust your 401k holdings to move all the funds into the Money Market account on your plan. It will keep the money safe while getting a small interest rate. At the bottom of the crash, move it all back. This is called “timing the market.” You could easily double your money if your timing is right. Your mom doesn’t have to cash out anything
Yep. Not the only one. Many will feel less capable of providing abundance for their children. Folks that live on a budget or pay check to paycheck may have children that will be less fortified. Lot's of other people are losing their money, but it's planned. So relax.
It ain't too hard - do a 5-yr chart starting April 1, 2020 on any given S&P 500 index fund and see what the results are. Stock picking is a sure loser for most people so don't even try unless you're willing to eat some losses while you learn - at least not with the bulk of your investments.
There's definitely many moves in one here - not just the market but the timing thereof, etc etc. Maybe Kash will come knocking on their doors at the worst possible time for them as well, etc etc. We can't know all the details of Q's plan. Yes tariffs are a great idea but if it was JUST for the tariffs they would have done it day 1. They are using the shock of them for other purposes as well, cleverly timed.
Eggs rose dramatically during Biden’s administration and shortly after Trump took over because Biden had 10s of millions of chickens killed over bird flu scare. Over the last month or so egg prices have come down quite a bit with Trump’s doing.
So, guess we'll see if/when the stock market recovers.
Though, as we all should know by now, if the stock market does bounce back, that's not an indication that The Plan isn't real. Just that now is not the time for it...own fault for getting hopes up...patience... things are not on our timeline...um, it was a super secret ploy by Trump to catch the swamp/stick it to countries we don't like/have a giggle or two at the DS....and various other reasons why things didn't go as predicted here.
“ In order for himself and his rich billionaire cronies to get even richer off of it, like liberals are saying”
What an idiot statement to make. If Trump was out to get richer he wouldn’t have run for president again considering he lost billions last time as president and almost lost his life running this time.
Makes a lot of sense but the normies (atleast the ones I spoke to) are panicking b/c they are watching the msm & just parrotting what they are hearing.
You don't think any Anons are panicking a little as well?
Q never explicitly said that the White Hats were going to deliberately tank the stock market in order to reset the economy.
All of that is the interpretation of random Anons who have frequently been wrong about what The Plan is.
Been through a few of these downturns. And I have heard for several years that the market was overdue for an adjustment.
Q never explicitly said anything.
...who is also one man.
I didn’t know who it would come from but I expected some sort of crash. The fiat dollar has to collapse in order to make a new currency.
I don’t care right now if my “portfolio” goes down because I’m on the right side of the post-crash.
SILVER APE!!!
I myself was expecting the white hats to tank the stock market...but under the guise "Biden" being in charge.
You don't have a 401k. Do you?
Me? Only the one that has been forced on me by my employers. I've put as little as possible into it.
-Edited to add before I get a bunch of responses about how you can opt out of 401k.
Which, yes, that's true as far as I know.
But I had a couple jobs where it was mandatory to have 401a retirement contributions. Teaching jobs. So yes, those are getting hammered right now. (Not that there was much in there because teachers get paid peanuts).
I prefer to put money into real estate (that I'm living on). Quality furnishings that will last my lifetime, and beyond (not particle board stuff that will be trashed in a few years), art that I appreciate and will most likely improve in value. Enough land to grow extensive kitchen gardens (because homegrown just tastes so much better, I can grow fun varieties like purple carrots, and it's a hobby I enjoy and gives me sunshine and exercise. I can also grow for local farmers markets if I choose.), Also a little room for chickens when I get the time, along with milk goats if things ever really go to hell.
I also have a work garage full of tools that can fix the vast majority of anything that might break around the house, along with those I need for my hobby of refinishing nice old wood furniture idiots toss out on the curb (I live in an area with some of the highest incomes in the nation, along with tons of colleges and universities rich kids attend and just toss their stuff at the end of each semester, so I can just cruise by the dorms and grab what I like) and either keep it or sell it as I see fit. Let's see, what else. Two classic Mercedes-Benz diesel cars from the 1980s that are built like tanks and will never die. A house full of books and games and cds and dvds. A rooftop solar system that can run the fridge and freezers and some lights if things go south. And a little silver and gold bullion because I listened to people here, along with a bunch of vintage and antique silver jewelry that I like to wear (I was born a woman with all the woman bits, though many here think I'm a dude with dangly bits). I also spend a lot on experiences, not things. Travel, mostly.
So, hope that keeps me from being completely fucked, no matter what happens. And, you know, enjoying life in the meantime. 🤷♀️
PS, while I'm thinking of it. For those here that like keeping chickens, have any of you kept American Bresse? They're the cousins (basically) of the Bresse chickens from France.
If any of you have ever eaten true Bresse chicken in France, you know why I'm interested in raising birds like it. I know a lot of the flavor of French Bresse chickens comes from being free ranged and how they're finished and all that. I'm perfectly willing to learn and do whatever needs done.
I'm just wondering if anyone has raised the American Bresse and the experience you had.
I figure if I'm going to go to all the trouble of raising meat birds, I might as well raise the most fabulous meat birds I can find. 🤷♀️
We’ve been well overdue for a major reset. As far as the Markets go.
That and damaging the undue levels of influence Wallstreet and the Financial Sector has over the Economy at large is probably a secondary factor.
A couple words from CEOs of a handful of Finance companies. And you can paralyze the National Economy. That kind of influence, especially from an industry renowned for producing immoral and borderline psychotic individuals, is dangerous
BRICS is kicking in, the rich sold and are dropping prices to shake others out of positions. Then with all that cash on hand they will buy up all the real assets and pump the price to the next level with the low interest rates. Lowering interest rates only helps the rich.
When did a 20% decline become a "Crash?" It used to be called a correction.
Around the same time the news decided to use deep purple to signal a hot day instead of yellow-range.
Deep Purple is bad ass.
Honestly everyone hoping for a stock market crash is really selfish. There are plenty of normal middle-class people who have their money invested here so to act like it only fucks over the elites is silly. In fact, the elites probably have insider information that allows them to short the market. So, the only people getting fucked over are the out of the loop middle class people.
Disagree. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together could see the bubble.
FAFO.
Well, enjoy a few months or years from now when the stock market is inevitably hitting new highs again.
Seriously wtf is this thread? A bunch of fucking boomers mad they gambled on companies and corporations who they readily admit fuck the public over on a daily basis?
We are supposed to feel bad?
Yeah sorry not even half of my friends are into the stock market like boomers and gen X are. We just started hitting financial prime and it is a mockery compared to what our fathers had.
What a joke.
I view this temporary downturn in the market as a buying opportunity, honestly. Maybe that makes me "selfish". Those invested only "lose" money if they panic and sell when the market is down.
As the saying goes:
I hate quoting a Rothschild but when you're right, you're right
Most recent example would be the "crash" in Feb. 2020.
https://www.thebalancemoney.com/fundamentals-of-the-2020-market-crash-4799950
If you put money into a typical S&P 500 fund at the bottom of the 2020 crash (Mid-March 2020), you would have more than doubled your money by now, even after the recent "crash". PDJT engineered a quick turn-around then and I fully expect him to do it again this go around too.
I agree. Just picked up a few Tesla stock. I don't have a lot of stock, just a handful of select companies.
No. Private equity is going to take a giant hit. They're already maneuvering to put this all on big bank balance sheets and then get the Fed to rescue them again.
The wheels are already turning. The corporate paper market and the treasury markets are all levered into this in an insane way.
Get ready.
A market crash was always going to happen. The only question was the timing.
I wrote this 9 months ago. Worth seeing again, I think.
Fed chair Paul Volcker figured it out in 1979. To squash jummy cooter's inflation, the market had to crash. He did it by raising the federal funds rate to over 17%, which dumped the economy on its ass, and caused the 80-82 recession. Which was followed, with few hiccups, by the longest bull run in history.
Inflation, and cheap energy are keeping the market floating right now. Legacy media's been doing a bang-up job covering for O'Biden. But people are noticing how hard their wallets are being drained for regular day-to-day items, and even luxury things, like food. He's all but drained the Strategic Oil Reserve. Home sales are stalled, Joe Lunchpail has to earn over 100k now to qualify for a mortgage that's double what it was four years ago. Home inventory average days remaining on market >78 days, reports out this month indicating sellers are having to cut asking prices. O'Biden's rapidly running out of wiggle room.
The crash is coming. Nothing can stop it at this point. It's now merely a race to which happens first - crash or election.
Update:
Three days before the Jan 20 inauguration, O'Biden's Treasury Secretary, Yellen said the gov't would run out of money the 21st. This was deliberate. Legacy media did a bang-up job covering for O'Biden, allowing him to dump this economic disaster on Trump's plate.
yellen
Home sales are still stalled. Home inventory average days remaining on market >60 days, reports out this month indicating sellers are having to cut asking prices. In 2025, housing affordability in the U.S. remains at it’s worst levels in decades.
housing
The crash is coming. Nothing can stop it at this point. O'Biden's sole accomplishment was delaying it until after Trump took office, so he can shift the blame.
edit: original X thread Thomas Sowell
Makes you think what would have happened if Kamala won
Also, is Q is real and everything is a movie and everyone is an actor, that means Q had Biden intentionally crash the market.
If Kamala won it would be so much worse. She would have kept it from crashing to shift the blame like Biden did. The video alerts us that this is a positive move. A Trump move. So we know Kamala would not have moved wealth from the rich to the poor like Trump is doing. By tanking their investment portfolios by crashing the market, he cant be making rich and powerful people happy to be losing money. Kamala wouldnt do that for the people.
I kind of have a different take - I think the people that can make the market move are pushing it lower in order to hurt PDJT (and small investors) to see if they can make him backtrack on the tariffs (And make small investors panic sell, feeding the market downturn). Trump knows their playbook and is using it against them. Prices will start coming down on things that effect all people (Gas, Groceries,etc.). People will start having more money left over after paying the bills. Companies will start moving manufacturing back to the US (this is already happening). Wage growth will follow. The stock market will recover.
Everyone will be made right, one way or another. Seriously, we were on the verge of ww3, losing our country and our freedom. Be thankful PDJT won and we didn't have a nuclear war. I have money in the stock market too and mine have taken a beating but I have faith all will be ok.
You have to break the back of these monopolies and end the Feds ability to interfere. Otherwise, they'll swoop in on the dip and snatch up even more, look at every economic "event" of the past 15 years. It's a giant wealth siphon that only goes in one direction.
It already is if we've just had a near extinction level event. A near death experience like that is unbelievably powerful and transformative! Freedom was nearly ended. I we remained free! Take the money! Just dont kill me or put me in a cell. If you were robbed on the street you'd gladly give your possesions for the lives of everyone you love, right?
So is my 401k fkd?
Yes, but the first 60 days of Biden crushed mine by 35%
I went through this in 2018, IIRC. Cashed out, and have been in bank CDs (rolled over) ever since. The stock market is manipulated.
Mine has dropped n still dropping
I just increased my 401k contributions. I figure it will buy more as the prices drop, then once they start rising again, mine will rise that much faster.
We saw this somewhat during Trump's first term. He would announce a new tariff, or whatever, the market would react and drop, scaring everyone, then it would climb higher than it was. Idiots have too much control over the market.
Reminds me of Christian Bale's character in The Big Short. People were screaming at him to get out of their losing position on his housing market shorts, and he wouldn't. He knew once the housing market tanked, and people quit reacting emotionally, those positions would climb beyond anyone's imagination.
Take a 401k loan. Then get better securities. The interest you pay on the loan is added to your 401k. Prime rate is 7.5%. If you expect to make less than 8.5% then a loan can be a good answer.
That's using your noggin.
Sorry bro, the info was out there showing this was going to happen I'm in bonds waiting for this exact moment.
I should make over 35%-45%+ this year ROI on my 401k.
#metoo.
:D
Nice. ✌️
^^^^^ THIS is the way.
Well, right now it is.
Question, you're not new here, are you? I mean, you read the posts here I do.
You've had to have seen all the posts about how part of The Plan was to tank the stock market and get rid of the FED and all that.
So, why did you have your money in the stock market, knowing all this?
I'm not judging. Just curious. You're not the only person here to be losing a significant part of their wealth this week/month.
I have a 401k but I am in my early 30’s so I don’t care.
I told my mom to cash out cause she’s 61. My mom is an uber normie Republican though.
You don't cash out at the bottom unless you have to.
Readjust your 401k holdings to move all the funds into the Money Market account on your plan. It will keep the money safe while getting a small interest rate. At the bottom of the crash, move it all back. This is called “timing the market.” You could easily double your money if your timing is right. Your mom doesn’t have to cash out anything
Yep. Not the only one. Many will feel less capable of providing abundance for their children. Folks that live on a budget or pay check to paycheck may have children that will be less fortified. Lot's of other people are losing their money, but it's planned. So relax.
Says who? Q? Where?
are you not reading other posts all over here? anyway, that's where.
No, that's various anons interpretation of what Q says.
And as I've said before, these same people have been very wrong with their interpretations of what Q says.
So why should they be trusted on this?
name one thing they were wrong about and ill show you they have an app for that.
That our financial.system would completely collapse when Biden was in office, and Trump would come in and fix it straight away
Not if you’re in the right investments that will skyrocket post-correction.
Temp pain for massive gains.
And which are those?
It ain't too hard - do a 5-yr chart starting April 1, 2020 on any given S&P 500 index fund and see what the results are. Stock picking is a sure loser for most people so don't even try unless you're willing to eat some losses while you learn - at least not with the bulk of your investments.
A couple of examples:
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/SWPPX/
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/FXAIX/
Thanks! ✌️
Happy to point you in one possible direction. Not stock advice, it works for me, but what do I know - I'm just an ape.
Oh, I just like knowing for the sake of knowledge.
I'm plant'n more Taters & Okra.
Pickled okra is one of my faves. Can you bring some to the next GAW club meeting, please?
With or without the hot peppers. 😮😵💫🤣
Never tried them without...
The stock market should've been reset 10 years ago. This is long overdue.
FYI, It was reset 5 years ago.
Never knee jerk when it comes to the stock market. Hold what ya got. It will even out over time.
We see your "Occupy Wall Street," and raise you: Crash Wall Street globalists!
There's definitely many moves in one here - not just the market but the timing thereof, etc etc. Maybe Kash will come knocking on their doors at the worst possible time for them as well, etc etc. We can't know all the details of Q's plan. Yes tariffs are a great idea but if it was JUST for the tariffs they would have done it day 1. They are using the shock of them for other purposes as well, cleverly timed.
Wait, "we've already seen this with eggs". Is this post sarcastic? Did eggs not rise dramatically?
Eggs rose dramatically during Biden’s administration and shortly after Trump took over because Biden had 10s of millions of chickens killed over bird flu scare. Over the last month or so egg prices have come down quite a bit with Trump’s doing.
Big Pharma is being hit bad
it was a huge bubble anyway
Warren Buffet said no such thing I think. This video is just someone’s fantasy.
It’s a bubble.
MOASS when?
If I knew that, I would not be here....
Either he is willfully destroying it, or it is destroying itself by way of its controllers to present a boogeyman to the everyday melons.
Regardless, it's a band aid that needs to be ripped off.
My bet he is willfully destroying it.
Either because it's a set up to crash our entire fiat system, like many here believe
Or
In order for himself and his rich billionaire cronies to get even richer off of it, like liberals are saying.
Makes you wonder what is going on, especially when it looks like he's encouraging foreigners to come make a killing on the stock market right now:
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5231994-trump-trade-war-markets-plunge/
So, guess we'll see if/when the stock market recovers.
Though, as we all should know by now, if the stock market does bounce back, that's not an indication that The Plan isn't real. Just that now is not the time for it...own fault for getting hopes up...patience... things are not on our timeline...um, it was a super secret ploy by Trump to catch the swamp/stick it to countries we don't like/have a giggle or two at the DS....and various other reasons why things didn't go as predicted here.
“ In order for himself and his rich billionaire cronies to get even richer off of it, like liberals are saying”
What an idiot statement to make. If Trump was out to get richer he wouldn’t have run for president again considering he lost billions last time as president and almost lost his life running this time.
Lol, so someone took a 4chan post on this and created a TikTok video with the exact same wording, then Trump reposts it. Amazing.
Good stuff here.