I wonder if someone is restoring Alcatraz to its original condition. Will Aunt Nancy soon be a resident there with a magnificent view of San Francisco from her prison cell?
I'd be ok with that, as long as she has to keep the ice cream in her cell, and no freezer for it. For the expensive booze, just 1 bottle, and that is to be used for her last meal.
Just stick her out there without vodka and stop the tour boats for two days. She’ll never make it. Second thought, if the current is right those ghost air bags of hers might bring her in to shore. Fingers crossed it pulls her towards the ocean
Sounds like this is what Trump was referring to. People are thinking was to surface. They think he's going to bring back Alcatraz but in reality, he's going to do exactly what Lincoln did, suspend habeas corpus. This is the only thing that can stop radical judges.
Alcatraz was built in 1934
Abraham Lincoln signed the bill into law on March 3, 1863, and suspended habeas corpus under the authority it granted him six months later.
Alcatraz Island was used by the U.S. military for over 80 years, from 1850 to 1933. Between 1861 and 1865 Alcatraz was used as a military prison, holding deserters, Confederate sympathizers, and other military prisoners
And these corrupt judges will soon know what the sharp end of the spear feels like. Oh, wait, they are liberals....they've already been speared. AKA Big Miked
It is a national park that is open every day but Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Years Day. Tours go all over the area. I would think someone would notice.
When everything you need (and everyone) would have to be ferried over and back that would be noticeable. Then the constant tours going through the cell blocks would make things almost impossible. Add to that the fact that all of the building materials and equipment would be easily seen by everyone. That would've made the national news - "Alcatraz undergoing major refurbishment - Reasons unknown".
Everything would have to be renovated. Sixty years of no maintenance, lead paint everywhere, water pipes that likely broke long ago, probably asbestos in many places, and everything else required to make the facility habitable without the courts shutting it down on day one would be seen easily. The only real way they could reopen Alcatraz for actual use would be to demolish it and rebuild. It would be an order of magnitude quicker, but San Francisco would fight in Federal court and drag it on for years. That's their most popular tourist attraction. They could drag it on past Trump's term easily.
The whole reason it closed in the first place was because it was too expensive to keep up and to run since it is an island. It took too long and was too expensive to get basic stuff there and back. I don't believe they are secretly working on the facility yet, and I'm not sold that they ever will. I'd suggest a maximum security penitentiary in Alaska. Plenty of space, easy to defend, easier access by truck, and plenty of wildlife (and cold weather in some places) to discourage escape. Greenland would be better though.
"The whole reason it closed in the first place was because it was too expensive to keep up and to run since it is an island. It took too long and was too expensive to get basic stuff there and back."
So rent a couple tugboats and tow the island closer to shore.
Oh! Sorry. V2K technology was channeling the wisdom of AOC tonight. Bad trip.
If this would’ve said “Fort” Alcatraz..wouldn’t of had me thinking..1934 vs 1862? But the term “Alcatraz” isn’t just for a prison. It’s an island. Awesome post btw. Learned something today.
I believe President Trump will deal with this at least as wisely as Lincoln's followers, who gave General Robert E. Lee a generous (for that day_) term of surrender. Lee almost ended up as a Union general, but on the principle of the 10th Amendment, chose to follow his state into succession instead. Had Lincoln dealt with the South rightly, and respected the Tenth, he could have prevented much of the blood shed. But his whole mantra was, "The Union must be preserved!" (He only made slavery an issue after it proved to be more 'popular' than "the Union Must Be Preserved")
Lincoln not only suspended habeus corpus, but violated the 10th, 4th, 5th and a few others to justify keeping the Union together. He also permitted Northern States to keep their slaves throughout the war, and purported to free the Slaves in the Southern States, giving proof to the claim that his real issue was preserving the union, not freeing the slaves. That would come later, with the Thirteenth Amendment. (BTW, except as punishment for a crime is actually in the 13th...) He also placed on the Union the first 'Personal Income Tax' (aka tax on a man's labor) so that's one more reason to dislike Lincoln.
General Lee and President General Washington were related by marriage. Pretty sure that is why General Lee never faced any crimes. General Sherman and President Lincoln should have been brought up on war crimes. The media up North wanted them brought up on war crimes. But such talk was squashed. That is a very general overview. There is so much more to the story.
The preservation and extension of slavery into new states was the issue over which the South attempted to secede. My great-great-grandfather was in the Union forces (Illinois) and made no bones about the issue being slavery. He later died of wounds that did not completely heal. The Republican Party was an abolitionist party, and Lincoln's election prompted the south to make its move.
I pray Trump does decide to go full-on Abraham Lincoln on these thugs and insurrectionists and just go ahead and declare a suspension of writ of habeas corpus! Wouldn't that be fun!
Okay, NOW this whole Alcatraz business makes sense to me. I wondered why Trump would want to renovate some crumbling old prison at a high cost when they could easily build detention camps in like rural Texas or Oklahoma.
I feel like this has already happened. If the writ was secretly suspended long ago it's explain all the strange and incompetent cabal behavior these last ten or so years, as they took deals or flipped or were replaced.
The writ is fundamental for challenging jurisdiction and unjust imprisonment.
I wonder if someone is restoring Alcatraz to its original condition. Will Aunt Nancy soon be a resident there with a magnificent view of San Francisco from her prison cell?
Sounds like justice to me.
It's not nice to tease mother nature. I'd even go as far to let her have her expensive ice cream and booze just to see her behind those bars.
I'd be ok with that, as long as she has to keep the ice cream in her cell, and no freezer for it. For the expensive booze, just 1 bottle, and that is to be used for her last meal.
And she only gets a pint of either.....
Ok I'll accept your conditions.
That was my first thought. She should get a cell with a view of the city she lived in and defrauded…Three hots and a cot.
I would pay to see Pelosi in Escape From Alcatraz
Kek!
Just stick her out there without vodka and stop the tour boats for two days. She’ll never make it. Second thought, if the current is right those ghost air bags of hers might bring her in to shore. Fingers crossed it pulls her towards the ocean
Sounds like this is what Trump was referring to. People are thinking was to surface. They think he's going to bring back Alcatraz but in reality, he's going to do exactly what Lincoln did, suspend habeas corpus. This is the only thing that can stop radical judges.
Alcatraz was built in 1934 Abraham Lincoln signed the bill into law on March 3, 1863, and suspended habeas corpus under the authority it granted him six months later.
Almost had that meme
Alcatraz Island was used by the U.S. military for over 80 years, from 1850 to 1933. Between 1861 and 1865 Alcatraz was used as a military prison, holding deserters, Confederate sympathizers, and other military prisoners
Astounding. I had no idea of this history. I will have to look it up.
Time travel is fun. Q 🤣
Fort Alcatraz i think mate , im a Brit so what do i know hahahah
During the US Civil War, the fort (Alcatraz) was used to keep Confederate prisoners and private citizens suspected of aiding and abetting the South.
Betting that the South will win!
Lawfare is a muthafucka
And these corrupt judges will soon know what the sharp end of the spear feels like. Oh, wait, they are liberals....they've already been speared. AKA Big Miked
What if they've secretly renovated alcatraz.
It is a national park that is open every day but Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Years Day. Tours go all over the area. I would think someone would notice.
https://www.nps.gov/alca/planyourvisit/hours.htm
Why would anyone notice? Don't national parks get renovated?
When everything you need (and everyone) would have to be ferried over and back that would be noticeable. Then the constant tours going through the cell blocks would make things almost impossible. Add to that the fact that all of the building materials and equipment would be easily seen by everyone. That would've made the national news - "Alcatraz undergoing major refurbishment - Reasons unknown".
Everything would have to be renovated. Sixty years of no maintenance, lead paint everywhere, water pipes that likely broke long ago, probably asbestos in many places, and everything else required to make the facility habitable without the courts shutting it down on day one would be seen easily. The only real way they could reopen Alcatraz for actual use would be to demolish it and rebuild. It would be an order of magnitude quicker, but San Francisco would fight in Federal court and drag it on for years. That's their most popular tourist attraction. They could drag it on past Trump's term easily.
The whole reason it closed in the first place was because it was too expensive to keep up and to run since it is an island. It took too long and was too expensive to get basic stuff there and back. I don't believe they are secretly working on the facility yet, and I'm not sold that they ever will. I'd suggest a maximum security penitentiary in Alaska. Plenty of space, easy to defend, easier access by truck, and plenty of wildlife (and cold weather in some places) to discourage escape. Greenland would be better though.
"The whole reason it closed in the first place was because it was too expensive to keep up and to run since it is an island. It took too long and was too expensive to get basic stuff there and back."
So rent a couple tugboats and tow the island closer to shore.
Oh! Sorry. V2K technology was channeling the wisdom of AOC tonight. Bad trip.
If this would’ve said “Fort” Alcatraz..wouldn’t of had me thinking..1934 vs 1862? But the term “Alcatraz” isn’t just for a prison. It’s an island. Awesome post btw. Learned something today.
I believe President Trump will deal with this at least as wisely as Lincoln's followers, who gave General Robert E. Lee a generous (for that day_) term of surrender. Lee almost ended up as a Union general, but on the principle of the 10th Amendment, chose to follow his state into succession instead. Had Lincoln dealt with the South rightly, and respected the Tenth, he could have prevented much of the blood shed. But his whole mantra was, "The Union must be preserved!" (He only made slavery an issue after it proved to be more 'popular' than "the Union Must Be Preserved")
Lincoln not only suspended habeus corpus, but violated the 10th, 4th, 5th and a few others to justify keeping the Union together. He also permitted Northern States to keep their slaves throughout the war, and purported to free the Slaves in the Southern States, giving proof to the claim that his real issue was preserving the union, not freeing the slaves. That would come later, with the Thirteenth Amendment. (BTW, except as punishment for a crime is actually in the 13th...) He also placed on the Union the first 'Personal Income Tax' (aka tax on a man's labor) so that's one more reason to dislike Lincoln.
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/tax/10/history-taxes.asp
I have no love lost for Lincoln, and the fact of President Trump's high regard for him rings alarm bells for me.
General Lee and President General Washington were related by marriage. Pretty sure that is why General Lee never faced any crimes. General Sherman and President Lincoln should have been brought up on war crimes. The media up North wanted them brought up on war crimes. But such talk was squashed. That is a very general overview. There is so much more to the story.
The preservation and extension of slavery into new states was the issue over which the South attempted to secede. My great-great-grandfather was in the Union forces (Illinois) and made no bones about the issue being slavery. He later died of wounds that did not completely heal. The Republican Party was an abolitionist party, and Lincoln's election prompted the south to make its move.
Well good thing its trump in charge.
What goes around? Kek
I bet our buddy Clint Eastwood is smiling right now
Excellent connection!
I pray Trump does decide to go full-on Abraham Lincoln on these thugs and insurrectionists and just go ahead and declare a suspension of writ of habeas corpus! Wouldn't that be fun!
https://www.alcatrazhistory.com/rock/rock-020.htm
Holy shit is this about to happen again? 👀
Nice.
History of Alcatraz.
Grok says false, fyi.
Okay, NOW this whole Alcatraz business makes sense to me. I wondered why Trump would want to renovate some crumbling old prison at a high cost when they could easily build detention camps in like rural Texas or Oklahoma.
This could be the important point that many are missing.
Maybe edit the post title to include, "Alcatraz -" so it will come up in future searches.
I feel like this has already happened. If the writ was secretly suspended long ago it's explain all the strange and incompetent cabal behavior these last ten or so years, as they took deals or flipped or were replaced.
The writ is fundamental for challenging jurisdiction and unjust imprisonment.
This is one of them NCSWIC moments. There's only a handful of president's Trump's refers to and Linclon is one of em.