Just interested. watching social media many POTUS supporters are saying this is a red line.
One of the things that first attracted me to POTUS was his anti-war stance so it would be disappointing for me.
That said I do not have a side in this war, I am over the middle east and the never ending shit storm.
Yes it would. I could no longer trust in the Plan at that point.
It would completely betray the principle of “America First”.
If Trump brings us into full scare war against Iran I'm completely done.
Yes. We have been invaded. America FIRST.
Invaded, or, infested?
Yes. War is ghey.
no.
Q is in control, it's part of the show...
they're stirring the pot, to confuse the enemy; "the Invisible Enemy of all humanity"
#1450
Everything shown has meaning.
You are watching a 'scripted' movie.
Q
#4545
We are living in Biblical times.
Children of light vs children of darkness.
United against the Invisible Enemy of all humanity.
Q
President Trump had Iran on the ropes with sanctions. Remember Obama and Biden and the pallet loads of cash? Billions of dollars were given to Iran to prop up the regime. Iran is a deep state stronghold. Not its people. If President Trump commits to helping Israel take them out, so be it. One less piece of the globalist empire, and the Iranian people can decide their own futures. That's how I view the current happenings.
I also agree that Iran is cabal controlled, however taking them out using the cabal controlled Israelis means thousands maybe even millions of innocent people lose their lives. The Israeli's won't give a damned about collateral damage. In fact in my opinion they would welcome it. They are just evil.
If he does this I am out.
It is possible that US involvement could be contingent on the restraint of the bloodthirsty Israelis.
Are the current rulers of Israel crazy as rabid dogs?
Yes. You can't change my mind on that one.
Do I know everything that's going on behind the scenes?
No. That's not subject to dispute either.
No. Israel is using our tech, our weapons, our money...not only, but largely. Trump is in it. We are in it. To pretend otherwise would mean one is possibly msm or... never mind...don't want to go ad hominem. Same with Ukraine. Just ask linsee. he'll lisp ya, um, I mean, tell ya. Crap! Did I just go ad hominem?
No. Ad hominem is not indicated in this case. Just an outright smear. :P bc you are not debating anyone.
These are the 7 countries U.S. or more importantly the Bush family wanted to regime change before 9/11 and to start it they needed a catalyst. Iran is the last on the list
Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Iran
Right after 9/11 to take out seven countries ending with Iran General Wesley Clark
https://old.bitchute.com/video/8h8e425UlN9C/
Thank you, I didn’t know that was out there.
Gen Douglas MacArthur: "I know war as few other men now living know it, and nothing to me is more revolting."
Sometimes, fighting is the only correct option. Me? I trust Trump's judgment. If he engages in war with Iran, then it will not be because he wanted that choice, in my opinion.
Well, said. I like your opinion. :)
kek. Someone don't!
I would like to draw a parallel between the two wars in Ukraine and the Middle East. Although I naturally have a well-founded opinion on this, I will not go into the historical background of each, but will instead focus exclusively on the effects that are now apparent with regard to President Trump's war against the Deep State.
Ukraine
The West's war against Russia, using its potential (equipment and manpower), has not led to Russia's defeat, but on the contrary to the depletion of a large part of the Western arsenal. Worse still, Western weapons have largely proved useless in this war. In particular, Ukraine's air defense is now virtually non-existent. Since Western production capacity is insufficient, the few remaining stocks (Patriot, HIMARS, etc.) are now being diverted to Israel.
Russian forces are advancing slowly but steadily along the entire front down to Kamyanske, south of Zaporizhzhia (https://www.youtube.com/@militarysummary). Russia's war aims, formulated since 2014, are: a neutral Ukraine stripped of its military capabilities and the destruction of Ukrainian neo-Nazis.
DJT pulled the American plug on this war, citing Zelensky's unwillingness to make peace. Europe is not capable of war, and the threat of the US leaving NATO is on the table.
Israel
Israel has obviously already failed with its blitzkrieg strategy (https://sonar21.com/the-zionists-are-crying-uncle-sam/). How Netanyahu, like Zelensky, could believe that he could drag the US into the war remains his secret. A few decades ago, as ambassador to the US, he said in a television interview that Israel owned Congress, but I hope that statement is no longer true.
Iran withstood Saddam Hussein's Iraq, which was equipped by the US and constantly supplied with war material, for ten years, and now it is supposed to just capitulate? How many refineries, etc., does Iran have compared to Israel? That it knows how to hit them should be clear since last night. Israel cannot sustain a war of attrition for long, especially since China is already supplying military supplies to Iran. And no, the US currently has no way of projecting power to any point in the world.
Just as tanks have lost their previous dominance on the battlefield to drones, aircraft carriers are now affected by the new missiles. How does Israel intend to keep its F-35s and F-16s operational under possible continuous stress? I have already read in various sources that the F-35 requires ten to fourteen hours of maintenance per flight hour.
Here, too, it is clear that DJT has the law of action in his hands (saving Israel for last).
World situation
Doesn't anyone notice that Russia is surprisingly quiet? Russia has withdrawn its troops from Syria, and the US is also reducing its troops in the region. Taken in context, the actions of the US indicate to me that it will give up its role as world policeman.
Who else but a personality like Donald Trump could sell this to the American people? The old system has been defeated—hopefully—but humanity still has hard, really hard times ahead. So far, President Trump, I think in cooperation with Putin and probably Xi as well, has avoided the great sacrifices that an open military world war would demand. May it remain so!
...as ambassador to the US, he said in a television interview that Israel owned Congress, but I hope that statement is no longer true.
Thomas Massie confirmed that it is true, and he is paying for his indiscretion.
Well said. The problem for the West and this includes EU/UK, is that they have no idea what weapons (unseen to their eyes) that both Russia and China and even perhaps Iran have. There are tunnels under Iran - city sized - 3/4 lane and in many locations that go for miles and there are still thousands upon thousands of missiles, trucks that can be positioned in any locations, already loaded with missiles etc.
We are watching the end of the old guard. The BRICS nations if push comes to shove, will rally around Iran and I bet are already helping them. It is rumoured that Netanyahu has fled to Greece. If you look at the videos on Telegram - the fake AI ones have been weeded out - Tel Aviv looks like Gaza. The EU are now saying they had no part in the attack on Iran and POTUS has said the same thing. Unfortunately for these countries, they have put targets on their backs because in many instances they helped guide missiles into Iran, just like in Ukraine where it was used as a proxy. The world is in much danger still.
Let me ask those that profess Christ. When Christ died, the world passed from the OLD Testament (Law) to the NEW Testament (Grace). Meaning, not just Jews could be part of Gods kingdom, but the Gentiles too. In fact Christ himself said. A new commandment I give you that you LOVE one another, just as I have loved you. Someone told me once, if you love, you cannot hate. How true is that!
All nations have the right to protect their sovereignty and their people. No nation has the right to act on a whim, on a lie, on a perceived made up scenario and say you need to be just like us, forget your traditions and cultures - we in the west are so pure, so democratic, so righteous then bombs the cr.p out of them to bend them to their will with a regime change. This was nothing about ‘protecting one’s country’ but about regime change. The latest in Russia via Ukraine, then the genocide in Gaza and now Iran.
Great analysis and I agree completely. Hypothetically speaking at this point, would you support US military action against Iran?
No. I think DJT is the best thing that could have happened to the US. He is honest with the people insofar as he always reveals as much about the coming trials that Americans will have to face as the patriots can stomach at the time. If he had laid everything on the table from the outset, people would not have followed him.
I hope that we Germans will also find our way back together after the inevitable collapse. However, we will have to spend more time rebuilding Europe and Germany, which we destroyed through our own fault.
I am now very skeptical about reports, but there is currently a report circulating on Telegram that an A400 tanker aircraft of the Bundesluftwaffe accidentally activated its transponder for a few seconds over Jordan. One of what are probably only six remaining missile destroyers of the British Navy was denied entry into the Persian Gulf by Iranian units, and a British F-35 reportedly made an emergency landing in India due to fuel shortage.
However, I still think that we are living in a political Truman show.
From an American-first patriot, long live Germany and Europe!
I mean, Trump said he's against "endless" wars.
Nope. Why? Iran is still the same. Iran is still the same - they are bent on OUR destruction. NOT ISRAEL… Israel is a small strip of land - we are the real prize 🇺🇸. INSTEAD What does he know that we don’t - why would you follow a feckless leader. Don’t come here and sow discord.
It's a bad-faith question that assumes a hypothetical where Trump is controlled by Israel, with the goal of having Q-followers denounce Trump for doing so.
If you're this late in the game and your knee-jerk reaction to conflict with Iran is that Trump is Israel's puppet, what are you even doing here on a Q board?
You read a lot into a question.
I read "join Israel" in your question because you put the words in your question.
You're on a Q board but you want to pretend Q doesn't exist.
u/#q1320
Why would Trump go to war with Iran if he already took control of it?
Then in Q drop 1822, Q mentions the topic of your loaded question.
Q says its a false narrative that Trump would start a war with Iran, and you're here asking everyone to assume that false narrative is true with a loaded question.
And here's another Q drop, 1306. Q explains the circumstances where we would go to war with Iran. Read it over very carefully and tell me which line says "to join Israel".
u/#q1306
Here, I'll help you, it may be too much for you to read above.
Q said if Russia supplied Uranium to Iran or Syria, it will mean WAR. The Q drop says nothing of Israel.
It's like you never heard of Uranium 1. Do you even read Q drops?
It was your job, when you were "watching social media" to quell false narratives, not to suck them all up and bring them here and present them as though they are true.
Clearly they never took control of Iran. Iran has continued on its merry way.
You want to blindly follow, go right ahead, I prefer to question which we were encouraged to do. You are a closed shop, lot has changed since Q posted. You might need to move with the times.
The audacity to be on a Q board and accuse people of blindly following Q when you're given exact Q posts negating your arguments.
What are you even doing here? The right column says "Q Supporters ONLY".
I bet you thought we were about to go to war with NK when Trump made his "Fire and Fury" response to them too, right?
Even now, there are multiple threads on the homepage regarding Trump brokering a deal between Israel and Iran while you insist war is imminent.
You're watching a movie.
But even if you weren't watching a movie, what does peddling blackpills on a Q board achieve?
Lots of people in the thread open to discussion. You sound like a left wing retard with a cult like view of the world..
Why are you here? Given you are so certain, there is nothing to discuss and this is a discussion board.
Personally I hate war. I saw my brother and friends brothers come home from Vietnam as seriously fucked up people - that aside - I will always support Israel no matter how much the world turns against them with their hatred. Sometimes given no other option you have to fight.. I voted 3 times for Trump, plan or no plan. I don't regret it. Sorry if this is rambling. I'm sitting here drinking my coffee and waking up. It's so strange, though - by saying I support Israel I feel like I did years ago supporting Trump when everyone hated him.
Israel pulled off 9-11; the Golf of Tokin was the false flag that dragged America jnto Vietnam.
These are not just wars.
Brother you aren’t paying attention if you support Israel.
the S.of S. is deceptive and good at it. Most who succomb are oblivious to what was done to them.
https://m.economictimes.com/news/international/us/without-fanfare-trump-quietly-approves-30-million-more-in-arms-for-ukraine-amid-rising-global-tensions-us-ukraine-news-donald-trump-news/articleshow/121850489.cms
Trump is helping out Ukraine $30 million more for the Ukraine grifter
No
Iran needs to be stopped cold from getting a nuclear weapon. They have threatened the US plenty of times. If Trump sends misses toward Iran he will let them know he sent them, afterward, not prior. Iran probably has a few people here who came under Joe Biden, we need to look for them and watch them closely. I don't think Trump wants any boots on the ground type of war. And I don't think America wants that.
It’s like saying: what if Trump picks Hillary to be his VP….
He has said repeatedly he is against all wars.
He promised to end the endless wars.
Well, nine hours since you posted this, and Trump did come out with the post saying that I ran in Israel have to come to a peace deal. Also, something about he intervenes to make sure that a official in Iran didn’t get murdered. So it seems to me he’s taking the peace route at this point in time. At this point in time…. yet!
The strategy is not to join in unless the Iranians attack the U.S. in any way. Which I don’t think will happen. Solve the problem. 40,000 ft view. Trump is not an anti war wimp. When he makes a threat, it is real. Since the enemy knows it, they rarely challenge him.
Yes, at that point it's time to grab noses and take matters into one's own hands, luckily that's not the situation were in
We are rooting out the cabal in coordination with patriot leadership on either side of these conflicts already.
As such we will be using them as pawns on a world stage. US officially stays out of war while making countries we aid bear the cost.
Call it a proxy war even. This is atypical from forever wars. This one has purpose and an end in sight.
War with China would be OK though. After all their biowarfare and election interference against us, they deserve cruise missiles up every orifice.
You are out of your mind if you think war with China would be okay. Look at their population and the percentage of able-bodied individuals vs USA.
we win with tech, the sooner we strike them the better as it only gets tougher to whip them from here on out.
We can deport them w/o killing millions, bud. Chill out McCain.
yes, the best thing he could do is just let Iran and Israel duke it out. If the US attacks Iran he is no better than any of the others, plan or no plan.