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Gov. Ron DeSantis goes off on property taxes... wants them ABOLISHED. "To say you're just enjoying property and all of a sudden the value [goes up], so you have to pony up [to the government]? We don't really do that with ANYTHING else!" (90 seconds) (twitter.com) 𝕃 𝔽 𝔾 ! ! !
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– JohnTitor17 [S] 27 points 350 days ago +27 / -0

Long before Trump or DeSantis ever mentioned a single word on "abolishing taxes"...

For the last ~16 months now I've repeatedly insisted:
"In the future, there will be sales tax, but...
There. Will. Be. NO. Property or Income Tax."

Some scoffed every time I said it with such high confidence... until Trump coincidentally first mentioned it summer of 2024.

This is where things are heading and it WILL help make America great again!

Otherwise you are just RENTING your property from the government.

Credit: John Titor in 2001.



Btw frens... Probably by Saturday or Sunday I should be done with a post I've been working on for a while. Spending a lot of time on prepping the sauce… And frens the sauce is incredible.

I've been sitting on it for years.
It is a decode on a topic POTUS (on twitter) and Q we're bouncing proofs back-and-forth on secretly that no Anon ever noticed.
It is on an exotic Q topic that I have never seen decoded or mentioned anywhere on the net.
It's going to be epic imo.

WWG1WGA!

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– MemeToDeath2021 9 points 350 days ago +9 / -0

The scheme is called "Collateralization of Stolen Title (CoST)" currently used by the SOCIAL SECURITY ADMIN CORP, DEPT. OF MOTOR VEHICLES CORP, AND all COUNTY CORPs (MSCs): https://greatawakening.win/p/19BGOoV1AX/presenting-the-collateralization/

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– Rooks 9 points 350 days ago +9 / -0

Agreed.

There is a lot of local and state services that come out of property tax, including libraries. It'll be interesting to see how these services adapt to lower budgets. There is a lot of waste at the local level.

Some libraries have great budgets and are very responsible with their funds. Others are horrible and wasteful, not just Trans story hours, but with project management, specialty (expensive) vendors etc.

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– pnwhomebrewer 7 points 350 days ago +7 / -0

Should just be sales tax across the board. Want more tax revenue? Make your town/county business friendly, make it affordable to live, remove red tape so regional and small business owners can thrive.

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– SOGWAP 3 points 350 days ago +3 / -0

There is way more waste. Zephyrhills florida a place with high taxes just built a useless and unneeded 7 million dollar park. We have them everywhere. Lots of places to use but no, they gotta find a way to blow 7 million on a park that actually sucks. Public service isn't a place you should get rich, but the retirements these firemen and cops get along with any city employee is through the roof. It's not right to do in the backs of the taxpayers.

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– MemeToDeath2021 7 points 350 days ago +7 / -0

As Chief Executive of the STATE OF FLORIDA CORPORATION (SoFC, Municipal Service Corporation), DeSantis can by Executive Order if necessary, order all FLORIDA COUNTY CORPORATIONS (owned by SoFC, and also MSCs) to cease and desist issuing "real property" assessments and related "ad valorem" tax bills. However, we may need to see the performative change in the SoFC CORP bylaws in order to see it actually done in a way that the COUNTY CORPS comply with. He could also just order the COUNTY CORPs to cease and desist fraudulently reclassifying LAND and LAND PATENTS as REAL PROPERTY (a legal definition that "allows" under color of law and fraud, taxation in violation of the Constitution).


Note that it appears that the US Treasury actually owns the SoFC, so theoretically Trump could remove one or all STATE CORPs property taxes via Executive Order as well.

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– praying71 5 points 350 days ago +5 / -0

Add: inheritance tax and dividend tax.

  • Inheritance tax - if someone has paid tax for the whole life - why the person can’t give the remaining part to children?

  • Dividend tax - if someone has invested the money and the company finally generates some profit and pays Sales tax and Corporate tax, why to charge an extra Dividend tax on what’s left?

… and if the entrepreneur sells the business because the above doesn’t make any economic sense - the Capital Gain Tax is a cherry on the cake. What a beautiful environment to make people more entrepreneurial!

If the tax dropped to 5% - all these bureaucrats and NGO parasites would have to work to make their living.

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– axiy 3 points 350 days ago +3 / -0

In Ireland and the Netherlands, property tax is basically 0.1%, the UK has no property tax to my knowledge. It's such an insane concept that the US pays roughly 10x that of Ireland/NL.

I mean, wasn't the US literally founded on not paying tax? I know that's not the only reason, but it's a popular simplification of the casus belli for the War of Independence.

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– deleted 12 points 350 days ago +12 / -0
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– America4Trump 4 points 350 days ago +4 / -0

Amen!

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– ZeroDeltaTango 4 points 350 days ago +4 / -0

If we stop all foreign aid

And/or quit wasting trillion$ every year as DOGE discovered

De Santis is right: Home value increase is UNREALIZED GAIN that they are taxing you on. Completely illegitimate theft.

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– KnockKnockItsJinx 1 point 350 days ago +1 / -0

What you said!!

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– deleted 8 points 350 days ago +8 / -0
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– Ferret2 7 points 350 days ago +7 / -0

Thank goodness the sales tax on food in my area is only 1% otherwise inflation would be giving the guvmint even more money for a gallon of O.J.

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– GDZeus 3 points 350 days ago +3 / -0

Where do you live that sales tax is only 1%? I'm in Alabama and it's 4% for state tax, Plus city/county tax depending on where you live. Where I live there are a few different cities, so depending on where you shop it is - 9.5% - 11%. We pay tax on everything here, including all food.

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– Ferret2 1 point 350 days ago +1 / -0

Illinois.

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– Rufinator 6 points 350 days ago +6 / -0

On a similar note, there is a ballot initiative in Ohio to abolish property taxes. Seems the reappraisals last year that jacked up everyone’s rates hit a nerve. But if any of ya are in Ohio, they are collecting signatures

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– MidnightToker 3 points 350 days ago +3 / -0

Your local governments use your property as collateral for their debt.

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– konadog 3 points 350 days ago +3 / -0

Value ? You Mean INFLATION.

In addition, the " Tax Appraiser " is a fraud. Banks that roll additional $$ into Buyers purchasing houses. . . 'points', pay title searches, fees, commissions etc. RAISE the assessment against the prior appraisals. Happens every day and its criminal.

They are conflating VALUE which is in reality INFLATION or the DEVALUE of the Dollar.

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– nakedjay 2 points 350 days ago +2 / -0

The biggest hurdles is school funding. Every state thought the only way to fund schools was with property taxes. Put in a consumption tax for schools and set people free.

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– deleted 2 points 350 days ago +2 / -0
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– SuckaFree 2 points 350 days ago +2 / -0

I'd be willing to pay a 10% sales tax if we could get rid of property tax AND federal income tax

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– Unitymyass 1 point 350 days ago +1 / -0

Don't forget school tax

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– Larrie 2 points 350 days ago +2 / -0

Value is established at the moment of sale. Property should not be taxed until sold That incentivizes the locale to run a tight ship

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– SOGWAP 1 point 350 days ago +1 / -0

As long as taxes exist we are not free. It's an academic reality. Now let's start rolling back permits on every activity we do in Business. Out businesses drive the economy not the government. How did we go to electing administrative gov officials to being ruled by them. These mayors and governors etc come out of rhe local popuations do they not. Are we really electing our own oppressors?

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– Supercritical 1 point 350 days ago +1 / -0

This is the kind of stuff I want to vote for.

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– SorosOrMuskPickOne 1 point 350 days ago +1 / -0

This is a good reminder. Sign up to be a pollster or a canvasser in your local area We NEED people! A few months from now will pass by so fast. DeSantis people are already reaching out, and at least one of them has mentioned they are on the presidential 2028 team too.

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– Godisglory1 1 point 350 days ago +1 / -0

Waste paying illegals in Florida, that is what happening. They got all the jobs and these evil crooks are building more apartments for rent.

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– MudDog 1 point 350 days ago +1 / -0

fuck that, just make sure black rock is paying theirs (they aren't)

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– Archon69 1 point 350 days ago +1 / -0

Property taxes should be pegged to purchase price and no inflation allowed.

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– UpwardBound 2 points 350 days ago +2 / -0

We bought 28 acres in NH. Prop taxes were $1200/year for an off-grid house on an unmaintained road with zero town services.

I made a number of signifant improvements to the house and land to make it more comfortable to live there.

Now I have to pay $4000/year. They tax us out of our own property. Land of the FREE???? Not when communists are in power.

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