Personally, I still believe in the Plan, partly because it's the only think that offers an explanation for all that has happened and is happening, partly due to the proofs, and partly because of my hope for the children of the world who need saving.
As a professional who assists organizations through change, I am very familiar with change leadership and all of the variables involved. One of the most difficult concepts is balance, specifically how to maintain the faith of early adopters of change and a new paradigm (similar to early Anons) as the change process unfolds and appears (to early adopters) to be stalling out due to their expectations and need for resolution (consider the reaction--both the speed and the voracity--each time something occurs that does not fit the expectations of Anons--patience with the Plan is growing thin, based on my observation).
Assuming the Plan is unfolding according to plan, I am puzzled by the lack of engagement by the Q Team to reassure Anons. Leaving it up to Anons to "see" the cues risks the erosion of the movement. For example, seeing "17" in many instances is either a comm from Q, or it is self-fulfilling prophecy that eventually wears out and turns people off. Out of a random 100 Anons, what percent are always going to believe it is a Q/Plan comm? If 10 percent start doubting because they conclude that their ability to see"17's" is nothing more than their programmed bias, then the Anons become 10 percent weaker.
The longer this storm takes to play out, and if the most serious expectations (Epstein for example) are shattered, the more the Anon base will question the bedrock of the movement: We have it all; NCSWIC; etc. And as they question, many will leave, or become disinterested, or worse, turn against the movement.
I guess my advice to the Q Team is (and I know, they don't need it, nor did they ask, but I am sharing it for my own sanity): You need to re-engage your base, and reassure them, before too many stop choosing to believe or to be involved. We need some type of touchpoint, check-in, milestone, etc.that let's us know that this is not a psyop, and that we have not been duped, and this touchpoint needs to be direct, not some obscure clue that is cloaked in too much reasonable doubt requiring more faith. We need ammo to reply to family and friends who want to know where Q is, now? We need the timeline reviewed, and we need to know that the cabal is being dismantled.
So, it will be interesting to see this play out. In 90 days will we have arrived at "I told you so" moments where we get to shove Q in the faces of so many regarding some of the more egregious things perpetrated by the Deep State? And will it be obvious, or will it be obscured by some lawfare bullshit, or cloaked among clues requiring the fall back of a "how many coincidences" rationale? Will we have received confirmation from Q that all is still going well? All this is to say that either the movie is ending very soon with a huge bang, or there will need to be some type of comms, otherwise the community of active Anons will shrink dramatically--that's just a reality based on humans experiencing change fatigue.
How will Q manage this change leadership endeavor so that we don't erode the Anon base?
BTW, I posted this last night and it was a bit late, so I have re-posted it with the hope of generating more discussion.
The (2) years and (6) years can be interpreted in multiple ways:
From the day Trump was inaugurated (Plan ending Jan 2025)
From the exact day if the post (Plan ending tomorrow)
From the day Q made the first drop (Plan ending Oct this year)
While many people expected fireworks on the day Trump took office this year, and while July 9th is a very crucial day, I think as far as "trusting the plan" goes, we have to wait until the Oct of this year before we start panicing.
As an aside - IF the plan failed for some reason, it means God has lost faith in humanity and there is no saving us. Thats it. We can yell and scream all we want, but that will be the end of the road.
No, that will never happen and we wont be there because NCSWIC.
This could probably be one of the goals at this point. In 2020, we Anons lead the way in waking people up, but in 2025 maybe they need to separate the wheat from the chaf. Those were in this journey for a quick ride, vs those who understood what is the final goal of this Plan and willing to standby no matter how painful it is.
So no, I dont think Q team is going to recalibrate this plan based on whether those of little faith decide to jump off the wagon. The end goal of Q plan is not gratification or even arrests. It is Awakening. To ensure Humanity will never ever endure what we have until now.
I had posted previously a question about "What's next?" Once we are all awake, then what? Your comments above are all about the notion of becoming awake and taking charge and living freely, but there is no "how" that has been articulated.
And, many Q posts did directly and indirectly talk about justice, and arrests, etc. Were those metaphors? Confusion among Anons (and just reading the comments on this board and how these comments have evolved in tone, level of alignment vs misalignment, over the past several months seems to imply to me an underlying confusion about what direction this is all headed, other than "Awakening") requires that the leaders of this initiative rein in the confusion and reinforce the mission via comms, or something that restores faith among those you suggest have "little faith". What good is the Anon community if we risk losing many due to their human nature and tendency to give up hope?
Those are not metaphors. Those are real. And they will all happen. However they are not the end goal of this Plan. The end goal is exposing the entire hidden system behind the puppets that makes them do all kinds of evil.
The end goalis to wake up humanity to the true nature of our reality so that we will never ever again get seduced by Satan, nor have to suffer this kind of enslavement.
I've been indifferent to anything Q for two years simply from the constant cycle of over promise and under deliver. As u said "ncswic....we have it all... Hunters become hunted....EMS"..... Like come on. When did Q even post last? Years ago. Like 2020 or 2022? I've been on this boat since 2018. The demoralization after losing 2020 was absolutely devastating. The fact I even came back after that was pure Stockholm syndrome honestly. Now I'm so neutral and indifferent, I don't even care about "subtle nods" to Q by "the good guys". I'm entirely turned off by these fanatically obscure "deltas" and "decodes".....I swear it's become a religion and an idol to many, and that's not good. Most of that crap is reading something from nothing. They've become the tarot card readers of the Internet. In my pessimism, numbness, and indifference I'm giving it up to God. I've moved on with my life. Sure, I check in, but I'm numb to it all. I'm in a permanent state of "wake me when something actually big happens". It's not hard to see why. I'm behind enemy lines. Gas is $6, home ownership is a fairytale pipe dream for the young , new cars are unaffordable, money has lost half it's purchase power in five years, I'm supposedly a top ten % earner yet I'm only able to cover basics, on top of that we can only eat clean due to allergies which is super expensive, we're being dragged into wars in Ukraine and Iran and nobody seems to be stopping that, nobody has gone to prison for COVID or voter fraud except actual heros, i nearly lost my job for refusing to tell the public the jabs were safe as a contact tracer and got fired from that assignment but returned to my agency (where i got black listed from being deployable on emergency ops for nearly three years until management saw I got fucked over and took me off the black list). Literally every facet of my life has been harder than five years ago. With kids, I don't have as much time to invest and I'm less willing to invest it outside of my needs because too many are asleep. Between converting to Christianity and standing up to COVID tyranny, I lost most of my friends and social network. A lot of people are in this same boat. We need to see some action and results, some new and clear guidance/direction/message, or this moment is toast. Honestly, if we're being truthful with ourselves, Q was 100% a psyop to lull us away from violence with "trust the plan". Well we did and shit is not getting better and old shit is not resolved. I don't want war, but NGL thanks to Q I'm now worried that we'll never stand up for ourselves and just get slowly rolled over. Q needs to shit or get off the pot.
I am so sorry that all that shit has happened to you, and to so many others. Same with me to a certain extent... about half as bad. And you are the perfect example, if you don't mind my saying--which is why I am grateful you happened to check in and then comment on this post. Anons like you are now "numb" and checked out. And rightfully so (although some here will say that you're weak... which is just incredibly short-sighted and stupid). But how are you an asset to the Great Awakening if you are awake but defeated and checked out?
That's what the Q Team has missed, and I am more and more convinced of that. I hope they see this thread and give it some thought. We need a shot in the arm, and not THAT one.
Hang in there... I am with you, as are so many.
"But how are you an asset to the Great Awakening if you are awake but defeated and checked out?"
Checked out, no. Defeated no. I just recognize reality. When I say I'm numb and dissociated, I mean that nothing really phases me anymore and I recognize the rest of society won't come around until they are faced with an unavoidable threat or a boot on their neck, or both. A video of an uncensored child hunting party with cannibalism at the Rothschild mansion could drop, a nuke could go off in a major city, 5,000 ten-man active shooter cells of derkas that snuck over the border could activate and kill thousands..... But if I'm not directly affected in the kill zone, I would be stone cold calm. While everyone else would panic, I would be like "Ok, while everyone else figures this out, let me know when the people actually responsible face the music, because focusing on my immediate family is more important". That's how numb I am. I tried to wake family and friends, got alienated and isolated. I took advantage of safety moments at work to play snippets about widespread vaccine injury, terminal illness, and death from the CDC itself (specifically from their YouTube channel where Steve Kirsch argued with undeniable evidence) and got treated like I'm a madman. My wife was on board with the Q message, but being so invested coupled with the depression after the 2020 loss and getting fucked on Jan 6 absolutely hurt my marriage. I carried all this pain for what? So three years later a couple people would casually mention "oh, you were right about that one thing, but you're still crazy about everything else". If I'm being brutally honest, anons are no longer an asset. If their purpose was to awaken those "who will see", that's done with. Everyone that can awaken has been awakened. If Q is real and fails, it's failure will be because it failed to tell us "what's next and how do we carry it out after awakening?". Q is right, but Yuri bezmenov was more right. You can't reach demoralized people. They willfully will not receive or accept truthful info or alternate viewpoints until "the boot of the state steps on their necks". None of this should read as a black pill or demoralization to anyone. It's simple acknowledgement of reality. IMO, I don't think it's worth the energy educate anyone outside our circle. We can perhaps keep learning and, if and when the big scare happens, maybe then we can be of actual use. Until then, we're unwelcome, unwanted, scorned, ignored, and excluded. Nobody likes a truth teller. Look what happened to Jesus.
I also want to point out, this feeling I have is shared my many, which is why you acknowledged it. I've taken to reading lots of military texts about psyops and The Art of War. One of the most important tactics from both is ensuring that there is a shared and invigorated spirit amongst the troops. Lack of that destroys movements. That's where we're at. It's an absolute violation of the Art of War to not "rejuvenate" us in the ways you mentioned. Also, based on the Q literature itself, next year we're supposed to be out of "occupation". So yeah, anyone is going to question if we'll see big moves within five months. If Q is real, then realistically, our job is 100% complete until the rest of society is forced to awaken from the scare and is finally willing to receive information.
Thanks for all of that... totally understand, and agree. And, I was not meaning that you were checked out... I was speaking in general about people who have awakened but have become disenfranchised with the Plan and everything. Just wanted to clarify that.
I concur about trying to sway the normies. Q even said you can't tell the people, you have to show them. Q also said fight, fight, fight, be loud, etc. Maybe that referred to resisting and calling out corrupt authority to their faces. But now, I wonder how a government of, by and for the people will be able to maintain itself in this world of AI, fraud and fakery. We just don't know what is going on, and the best we can do is hope and pray and help our neighbors. And ascend, if we can.
What you said exactly!!! Thank you so much for your remarks!! This is what many here don't seem to understand or they're lucky to not be going through the crap many of us are living through!!
I'd say a lot more but they'd call me a doomer.
God help us and thank you again, Fren!
EVERYTHING is a psyop. The question is always "by whom, and for what reason".
The most powerful psyop would be to tell people the truth. But neither the bad guys or the good guys want to do that because they would lose control. As long as only you know the truth, you can manipulate others, even your 'friends'. It's ugly.
Good post. And I think we all feel like this from time to time not just 10%.
The Revolutionary War really started in 1765 with the Stamp Act (1765), and was not "done" until 1783 (Treaty date), 18 years later. Arguably, it was not until 1789 that anything was actually COMPLETE. That is 24 years. Buckle up for a long haul. Some clues that this larger war had its foundations laid in 1824 (Law of War document origin), and has been raging for 200 years now: https://greatawakening.win/p/16aTa2w00Z/checkmate-deep-state-bitches-mil/c/
A 16 year counterplan starting in 2013 would be "complete" in 2029, but I think the counter-insurgency never ends and requires constant vigilance and "active hunting" of demons. Indications are that this current battle (against Central Bankers worldwide) started in 2009 (Bitcoin release date is good marker in hindsight), so we may be in year 16, working on year 17 right now.
yes, I think it's the 'mirror' of the DS 16 year plan to destroy us...and perhaps much of it will be to educate. like President Trump's big 250th anniversary fair, so by the time it's 'over' everyone understands 'how' to implement the Golden Age.
I know many are looking for the retribution. I believe that 80% of the retribution will happen with little or no fanfare. And most likely, a huge amount has already been done, mostly during the pause.
Take joy in the wins. I believe that the wins will keep coming at a rapid pace. Some small, some large and some ongoing like deportations, cleaning up the voter rolls and DOGE efforts.
What is next? More tariff news: I think it will be on pace for $1T per year. The first rescission bill will get passed with several more to come. And budget time is rapidly approaching. It may have to be another reconciliation bill. That covers the mandatory spending. A separate big fight over discretionary spending will ensue. I am hoping that there is a stand alone bill to eliminate taxes on Social Security. That couldn’t be done in the OBBB. And the $6000 deduction delivers little relief in the lower tax brackets. But I understand why they did that. As a minimum, the AGI used in the calculation be raised to $150K.
To the Panicans...They Had us DECADES ago..Without the PLAN..we would already be Dead. The MAN said that he "Caught them ALL"! Q said "We have it ALL"! What part of "Enjoy the Movie" are people not getting? One either see's and trusts the PLAN...or they don't.
I don't disagree with you. But... you and others are wired differently. If you want to sustain this type of complicated change momentum across a variety of personality types (not to mention all of the baggage that many individuals bring to the situation), you have to lead the change initiative in a way that caters to the different needs of your change agents.
Personally, I think we need to be growing our numbers and sustaining our community, rather than risking having people with less faith fall away. Quite frankly I am surprised that the Q Team has not already been more active in sustaining the community of Anons in different ways.
I hear ya "CA". There was a great Matrix Meme- There are people so damaged, so entrenched in the Matrix, they will fight to keep it alive. "OR something to that effect". I think we have as many as we are going to get...the Rest...will have to be SHOWN. Besides..it seems to me...That we are Nearing the end of the Movie?? Wouldn't you say?
It's been half my life since I realized there are some "people" who want most of us dead and the rest of us enslaved. We, the tin foiled, were finally mainstream with all the momentum any of us had ever seen. I see the crumbs but I want the storm. The jubilee that's long overdue. I want to see the movie's end. Yes yes NCSWIC but I'm still stuck in a world suffering. My need to understand why is the whole fucking reason I was researching before I'd ever heard the term anon. Patriots in control? Prove it. Restore the Republic. End the Fed. Tell Israel to get fucked. If you can't do it, I'm going to wonder why. This isn't doomshilling. This is wanting to get on with it. It's been an eternity.we know there's crazy suppressed tech. Show us what you got. Normies will catch up. DoitQ
I hear ya...and NO One in there right mind, would keep this going "IF" they did not have to. I am sure that there is a good reason for the Movie still playing. Remember - it is said, that it will take even US..3 months to get over,whatever we are going to get hit with.
Exactly x 1000! Anyone that 'doubts' at this point, needs to study the Q drops.
Yeah, something big needs to happen soon as it gets harder to convince family that what they see isn't really happening the way they think it is. Spoke to my cynical normie brother on Friday. He's pissed at PDJT over the Musk thing. Thinks PDJT is wrong for saying what he has about Musk. I tried to tell him it may all be for show. Well that really pissed him off to think it's some kind of game, he just wants the truth, good or bad. Anyway, I tried.🤷♀️
And isn't it curious why we can't just have the truth? I know... it's complicated... we're in a war... blah, blah, blah. We all will keep trying!
If being able to say "I told you so" is the important thing for you, you are probably here for the wrong reason. When we are at the precipice and when our brothers and sisters finally wake up into the nightmare of this matrix, the very last thing on our minds will be to say "I told you so".
The end goal is not being able to say "I told you". Its being able to live freely in a world thats awake and will never go back to sleeping.
"I told you so" is simply an expression of the need for validation among humans. It's a key part of sustaining effective change initiatives, which is what the Great Awakening is. I appreciate your comment, but my intent was not as simplistic as your reply implied.
Kinda like how I called myself out the other day on - the end goal of ministering isn’t to have more bodies to fight back against evil in the flesh, but to save more souls into righteousness.
Real easy to want the former, and the kindof end up in the same place, but it’s still the wrong goal.
How does one end up in, or move into a career of change management? That sounds incredibly interesting & like a missed opportunity on my part LOL
That said, thank you for these ideas & hoping for a signal from thd top. I don't know that there will be a signal until the job is completed at this point, but I do hope Trump makes it clear, especially to those who have not been involved from the time of confirmation drops, that he is Q+ & declas shows us that the world can now heal & prosper in a new golden age.
I understand the need for those who validate life with emotional excitement needing a very different signal & approach than those who are content skipping all "frivolous" activity until every nest egg is secured. There are many in between areas as well. Ended up doing a lessons on how the world needed both the emotionally drive & logic driven individuals for church class one day at the request of our quorum president. It was amazing to see how many changed their views on neighbors & family after getting exposed to a bit of how others actually process information & expectations.
I could be wrong & would love to see that signal that spurs fatigued Anons along, but as another has said, this might be a wheat vs chaff period.
Your last allusion to another's comment... what is the good of having a bunch of chaff that could have been strong proponents? I know you understand and you were just quoting that person.
I appreciate your insights, and the faith group exercise sounds fascinating. Simple things like Myers-Briggs, or StrengthsFinder help groups of people learn how to complement one another rather than remain divisive. Not sure if your group used a similar tool, but I am glad you have the results you did.
As for me... long, winding journey. For those who are in love with human dynamics and who happen to see those dynamics the same way engineers see a math problem, it's pretty fun and interesting to be able to work with a group of people to help them solve their challenges or seize opportunities (often two sides to the same coin). And my philosophy is that my clients always have more info about their company/org than I do, and my job is to help them mine it out of themselves, share it, and identify the barriers to acting on their insights (usually, it's a personality or two, or a lack of skill, or that everyone is too much the same, etc., and I help facilitate through that). Some consulting firms call it change management, others change leadership, others human capital management. It's basically helping a company or organization's people get from A to B, accounting for all of those dynamics (from personalities to politics, and communications) so as to make the change successful.
Anyway, thanks for your comment.
Thanks for that information. I naturally did that for decades with youth & their parents, worked with different leaders in a battle based game to help the organization grow, and have always worked to help different teams in the corporate environment see how they really do compliment each other so the contention could stop & our teams could just get back to helping the customers the best. I had no idea there was a niche that needed to be filled as a consultant. Glad you found your fit & it sounds incredibly fun.
Thinking about that again with your question, it seems Q always wanted us to think critically about issues & draw conclusions from facts & data that we may not have been aware of before. I never got the feeling they wanted blind followers. I fact that is a large part of what created this whole mess in the first place IMO. Really I am thinking that those who are able to step back, look at the issues & offer constructive discussion, as well as encourage it, is what we should be focusing on.
Helping everyone understand that we don't need to agree 100% on what is correct, but agreeing that we all need to critically consider options & help each other develop that ability to sincerely question, consider data points/new information, & be open to the possibility of being wrong when new information come our way.
The proofs made it clear to me this was a well planned project & involved Trump personally. Sure Trump could be in the dark about Q, but that is unlikely. He just doesn't do what others tell him to, he makes his own optics & owns the success or failure.
I had an IRL friend, who tinkers on the chans, approach me about the possibility of a staffer/or person posting as Q in a LARP & just convinced Trump to Tippity Top as well as draw air Qs. I figured there was a remote possibility, & that could be why there are no more Q posts. Though I found it more likely that the team is working to lull the black hats & perps into a false sens of security often enough & then spring a trap they cannot get out of. Though I accept I could be wrong & need to keep my mind looking at new information that can prove or disprove either idea if things start to frustrate me too much.
Q posting again would be awesome. Bringing back a nostalgic wave of hopium & joy that we have been right. Though I also know that if there is never another post until the operation is complete (if ever) is more likely. No need to telegraph to the enemy what is being done. I am still waiting for at least the Federal Reserve to be replaced, or ownership changed, before I start wondering if we are getting close. Historically it seems national banks needed to be destroyed in order for nations to become free & prosper again. Granted this is only one of multiple signals that need to be triggered before we know the change is here to stay.
I could be wrong, but if we remove the illegal immigrants (as we see happening now), that potentially removes sleeper cells/cabal armies from fighting back when other big things are announce.
Granted a signal from Q that we are 'still on track' would hopefully not ruin the plan, or expose who the team is at this point & it could bolster most of the Anons who have jumped onto the train.
That said, there was always some argument until Q proved they were Q again with each change of venue.
Thanks for this discussion & the response. Hope life is going well for you at this time.
Yes, Pep Rally is Good! u/#victory
Trump is still doing rallies periodically like recent one in PA. Good for boosting morale, but quite unusual for a sitting President supposedly not running for re-election. High quality signal, imo.
THIS: "Assuming the Plan is unfolding according to plan, I am puzzled by the lack of engagement by the Q Team to reassure Anons. Leaving it up to Anons to "see" the cues risks the erosion of the movement." Totally agree. It has been confusing. But I still cling to the idea that there is some type of plan run by officials on the level of Q that are making things right. Because otherwise - frankly we are doomed.
I've zero erosion in trust. I think we simply see people who never got any of this being negative.
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Well said. Q ghosted us. At the very least, it's rude. But honestly, I expect nothing. It's the military and they are assholes, to put it bluntly and truthfully.
I suspect all is well based on this one thing. Trump is back in office.