One thing that came up a year or two ago was what seemed to be the main example of Trump being 'in the files'.
Feds were questioning one of the victims, and kept asking if she met Trump or not, she said no.
Everyone still alive who has named big names, said they never saw Trump go to the island or do anything wrong.
So yes - his name is in the files.
But 100% can believe that Obama/Biden/deep state altered his birth certificate.....err I mean the files to fake Trump being in there going to the island.
I love Trump and I'll probably get in trouble for concern trolling but if he's in the files he's in the files. He was a business mogel in the 80s and 90s and many business mogels took part in Epstein's island. Also these files were seized during Trump's first term when the Republicans controlled every lever of the country.
Mueller investigated for two and a half years, approximately19 prosecutors some 40 million dollars later, say it with me. ZILCH! If there was something on Trump they would have found it, AND PUBLISHED IT, take it to the bank.
I wouldn't say overconfident, I'd say confident. 1. Mueller a Republican? What does that mean, is Paul Ryan a Republican?. 2. You read the report, but have not listed, what makes you unconfident, and neither did the Democrats 3. If there was anything on Trump (true and provable) the Democrats would have brought it out, even if it brought down some of their own, to save themselves from what they know is coming. 4. I am on the opinion that Trump was handpicked by Q, for a number of reasons, one of which is that Trump was clean(when Q said they have it all, they mean they have it all) that would include all information on Trump, they would not have picked Trump for a plan 20 years in the making, if there was dirt on Trump that the Democrats could use to bring down the one they chose to implement their plan,. 5. Prophecy by Kim Clements, (approximately 5 years before Trump announced he was running for president) Kim Clements prophesied Trump would be President, that God would raise him up as a trumpet for two terms, and that Trump would overturn Roe versus Wade, which was (thought) a impossibility at the time of the prophecy. With this in mind, very hard for me to imagine God raising up a practicing pedophile. 6) If Trump was on the island and participated in what supposedly went on,onthe island, or elsewhere with Jeffrey, then he's a liar of the worst sort, for Trump has emphatically denied these accusations. When have you ever come across a liar, who keeps his word? All his campaign promises(promises made promises kept) at great cost(I might add) to himself, as well as his family? Trump is in no way perfect, even as you and I are not, but God sees the heart, and I am convinced God has raised up Trump for a time like this, for No one can Do What Trump is doing, and has already accomplished, with opposition from, Democrats, rhinos, politicians across the world, the full power of mainstream media, Hollywood Elite and all the talk shows, opposition the likes of which, is to say, in the natural "unbearable" unless God was with him.
The possibility of those files being altered is virtually nil then? So no way in hell they were ever accessed or meddled with in any way shape or form while allegedly under lock and key?
Anyway, if he’s legitimately in there, which he very well could be for a MYRIAD of reasons, I feel like the absolute worst of it MAY have been having Jeff launder money for him. You have to realize that if Trump was indeed a nasty pedo, he would’ve been buried a LONG time ago. And it’s hard for me to believe he even had Jeff do ANYTHING for him. His opposition would’ve crucified him for it.
The problem now is that him being present in the files now, which he certainly will be, will be conflated with him molesting 16 year olds on Epstein Island by the mainstream media
Dude flew on the plane twice, surely he's referenced in these documents somewhere else. Doesn't mean he's guilty of rape. If you read any comments on the matter, however, it's full of libs saying "he's on the list so he should be in jail" without any context
I don't believe for a minute that Trump was involved with Epstein. Trump knew who he was and what he was up to with his honey trap. Trump is smarter than that. Besides Trump is not into young girls he has always had model girlfriends, why would he fool around with kids when he could get any beautiful women he wanted. Come on it just does not add up. It's all garbage.
This is one of those tasks that falls to We, the People.
Not to those named in the files or even to President Trump himself.
WE will look at this evidence and make up our own minds, just as a jury is instructed to do.
And those of us here have been in training for a long time, you could say, to learn to sift through all kinds of wildly different evidence and draw an intelligent conclusion.
Even with all the insanely advance high tech we have today, offering us ways to find the truth, it will still boil down to just one thing:
The evidence may require some sophisticated forensics as well as some intelligence. Im pretty sure they would have tried to plant something. So its high be tricky to manage. But Trump would not have run again for president if there was anything on him they could use in this regard.
Trump has kept details records of where he goes. It would not be a surprise if the plant was (Fyi, Pseudonym used by Donald Trump) Mr. John Miller. The Leftist media will run with it, then they will have egg on their face once it is proven to be fake news.
I'll say it again. I don't care if he is in them. Maybe he hooked up with a 16 year old model once. I doubt he ever even looked at anyone prepubescent and that's why he thought Epstein was a creep.
Hell there's probably 16 year old MAGA girls who would willingly sleep with Trump bear or Don Jr or Eric if they had the chance. Humans are a bunch of degenerates the world over..unless they are fiercely religious or subscribe to a higher calling. America has the highest rates of infidelity and STD rates too high for a first world country. People's virtue signaling is beyond hypocritical
whoa. if this is your reasoning, then how dare we criticize any other person for hooking up with a minor. Maybe this is not what you mean, but, if its okay for him to do it, then its okay for clinton to do it. It is not okay, across the board. period. If it is okay, then lower the age of consent. Problem is, these girls were procured and groomed for sex, they didn't just show up knocking on Maxwells door saying, hook me up with Jeff and his friends for a sex massage,, I need the money. They could have found and hired plenty of young looking escort girls (18-21) for that purpose. The only time I would be willing to be less conservative with my view, is if a boy turns 18 and his girl is 16, and they have been sweethearts and went all the way. Why hold liberals to standards if you dont hold conservatives to the same? I do believe more will be revealed, and that there is no political side that will come cleaner that the other. DC , back in the day, had more massage parlors in the yellow pages than motels. I am not happy with how Bondi handled this, non of this bullshit distraction would be taking place if she had kept her mouth shut. He should have gone with Matt Gaetz as AG, he is smart as a whip and does not need to be some climber.
How many biblical examples of reformed people are there? How many were dark turned to light? What is the chance an almost 80 year old Trump who works 20 hours a day is still fooling around with teenagers? None.
I don't want Clintons or Obama arrested over sexual deviances or anything moral. I want them arrested for war crimes, plotting against our own nation, using government to enrich themselves and trying to rig multiple elections to have a chance at plunging the greatest country on Earth into a socialist hellscape.
At least those are my priorities. God can sort the intangible stuff out later
Nothing is wrong with me. I'm a realist. an old rich man sleeping with teenage models is not the same as a degenerate raping six year olds. From a logistical point of view, defining a 16 year old as a child and an 18 year old as an adult is absolutely illogical. Science has confirmed the brain does not hit maturity until about 25 and that psychologically that is roughly when adolescence ends. Make of that what you will but if Christ was willing to call a murderer into his service, I do not see how the same does not apply to Trump if the past allegations are true.
Yeah. He said that years ago. So did Trump. Trump said he "caught them all". Years ago.
So....get where I'm going with this? If we've had them all, for years, why are we still going after them? Did we catch and release? Catch them all, but do nothing from preventing things from starting all over again, so now we're hunting down an entirely new crop of evil doers? Or was someone fibbing years ago about having them all? Or is someone fibbing now about still looking for them?
Or is this some particularly fucked up version of Schrodinger's Cat?
The problem is if they?? could put something in they?? could also take something out. So, without the public being able to examine the contents of these files they can't be challenged. That means enough doubt is in place that everyone involved can claim they were victimized by fake info. That leaves only those who were abused to appear in court and point out the people who abused them. How many will do that? It would be a death wish for a lot of them.
The same will happen if videos were released although claiming they were hacked, experts can quickly tell if they were or not. But black hat experts if given access could do something to purposely put a tell tale signature in that would make it a hack. The only issue is does the original videos exist that haven't been tampered with? If so, who has them? They would be worth big $$$ but they could also bring an unwanted death sentence to anyone wanting to ransom them off.
I don't care what the excuse of the hour is. JUST. RELEASE! THE! EPSTEIN! FILES!
FBI and DOJ know what evidence was used to prosecute Epstein the first time. They know what evidence led to arrest the second time. They know what evidence was used to prosecute Maxwell. Anything that has been added since can be disregarded. I just want the truth. I feel like we are all helping slow roll the whole unravellling of the global cabal of pedophiles!
Epstein's fantasy island was raided 2019 during trumps first term, It's not a stretch to imagine FBI coming up with another conspiracy to Frame our POTUS
After all of the hoaxes and frame jobs by the dems against Trump, I will assume they have planted bogus info that looks bad. They have earned and deserve to be mocked.
Well, the biggest issue is that there is evidence all over the place, going back decades, that point to Trump having a long standing friendship with Epstein. ( Edited to add: I want to point out right here that there is nothing illegal with being friends with a horrible person. I'm sure that Trump did not know about illegal stuff Epstein was doing just because they were friendly. I have constantly pointed out to people right here that guilt by association is not a legitimate judgment of character or actions and this is one of the biggest examples of why I say that and try to get people to understand why they shouldn't do it.)
Quotes in magazines and newspapers from years ago, videos of them together, photos of them together, statements made by each of them over the years, all of that has been recorded for years before Obama or Biden or anyone else. And Trump never refuted them when they were made.
It's simply a fact that Trump and Epstein were at the very least close social acquaintances where each made public comments that at least suggested a long standing friendship.
But suddenly all of this was manufactured by Trump's enemies? Trump took all the credit for his justice department being the ones to put Epstein away in the first place. But all of a sudden, we can't trust Trump's justice department either? To be indelicate...bullshit.
And all this stuff that Trump's starting to say that suggests that it's not a priority to release all information we have in regards to Epstein? Also bullshit.
I understand that this is going to really upset the people that tend to blow whatever way the wind is currently blowing. But...fuck 'em.
If people who have been demanding the Epstein files to be released are now singing a completely different tune, well...they can go fuck themselves. At least admit that they never really cared about finding and punishing people that are involved in sex trafficking of children, and are just squawk boxes that repeat whatever their...(I dunno, leaders, I guess we'll call them?) leaders tell them to say.
I'll also point out that this is the same list they've had since Trump was President the first time. I read conversations right here where people discussed Trump being included in the files. At the time, all of the info available about Trump specifically was about him being on certain flight lists (at the time thought to be not to the island, and not with Epstein on board. And then there were people bringing up puboic quotes by both Trump and Epstein, praising the other, and then people would talk about the falling out they had, and speculation about exactly what it was that brought about the end to their friendship (or whatever it was). Was it a bad real estate deal, or did Trump find out about Epstein's fondness for 15 and 16 and 17 year old girls? There was tons of discussion about all that here, in these very chats.
Then all of that has been added to along the way with videos of them, and photos, and quotes dug up from old newspaper articles or magazine articles, going back decades.
And during ALL of that, since Epstein was arrested all the way back in 2019, and was being investigated by President Trump's justice department, there has been a constant demand here for those files to be released. CONSTANT. FOR SIX YEARS.
But all of a sudden, when there's been a very public revelation that President Trump was in the files (again, something that has been known by people here since the beginning), all of a sudden we can't trust those same files that we've been demanding for 6 years?
Now, at no time, ever has anyone said that Trump is guilty of anything simply because his name has been brought up in the files. There are plenty of reasons why his name could be in the files that have absolutely nothing to do with anything illegal.
I'm going to pause here to point out that THIS is exactly why we should not proclaim people guilty by association. We have a horrible habit of doing this with liberals. We have no problem with proclaiming every single liberal named in the Epstein files as pedophiles (complete with demands for immediate public execution as well) simply because they're in the files. I think this is why people get so upset when they hear that Trump is named in the Epstein files. Because they automatically assume guilt by association. Which is just retarded and the knee-jerk reaction of ignorant people. So see, when I tell people that it's not a good idea to judge someone guilty simply because they're associated (no matter how loosely) with something evil, this is why.
Anyway, getting back to the point, just because Trump is in the files doesn't meant that he has done anything wrong or illegal. It just means he's one of the hundreds of names that have come up while investigating. If there isn't any evidence of him doing anything actually illegal, which I'm sure is the case, then there is no reason to keep the files from being released, or casting doubt on their validity, or suggesting that it's not important to release them.
Be honest here. If it was any other President doing this, would you still be doing a 180 in regards to these files?
Seriously, just switch the names around. Pretend nothing else was changed except the names involved. Pretend that President Obama was the one who, six years later was told that their name was in the files, and it was Obama who suddenly started saying that the list was made up by Trump and Trump's people and that they were trying to railroad Obama, and Obama suddenly started acting like it was a huge waste of time to release this list or act on any of the information in it, even if Obama had frequently talked about the importance of preventing child sex trafficking (you know, what Epstein, who the list was made about, was doing), and all of a sudden, Obama has decided the Epstein lists (which had very publicly been talked about and speculated on for 6 years) are BS, and no one should be concerned about them anymore.
Now, be honest, if the names here were switched, and nothing else, who here would say that Obama has a good point and it's not concerning at all that the Epstein list is now not important to him anymore. Raise your hand.
And if you don't hear from me for 3-5 days, this post is most likely the reason. Maybe a few people will get to read it before it's yanked. 🤷♀️
If it was planted, then I'm sure it can be proven that it was tampered with. You can't tell me that the most-sophisticated military operation in the history of mankind was thwarted by someone manipulating the files when Trump was either secretly president via COG or had someone else in control while Biden played house.
This is either a way to keep pissing off the left and keep them from claiming it was rigged/manipulated against them when it does come out, or it's damage control. I'm going to say it's the former and not the latter.
I am impressed of how Trump has, through the years, pretended to be like a common street person talking! Well done! Some people respect straight up offensive talking. This battle is not for the weak. It needs to be resolved with offence. An entrenched evil enemy needs a frontal brutal attack; no time for pretending to be diplomatic.
“The whole thing is a hoax. They ran the files. I was running against somebody that ran the files. If they had something they would have released.”
“Now, they can easily put something in the files that's a phony…”
One thing that came up a year or two ago was what seemed to be the main example of Trump being 'in the files'. Feds were questioning one of the victims, and kept asking if she met Trump or not, she said no. Everyone still alive who has named big names, said they never saw Trump go to the island or do anything wrong. So yes - his name is in the files. But 100% can believe that Obama/Biden/deep state altered his birth certificate.....err I mean the files to fake Trump being in there going to the island.
I love Trump and I'll probably get in trouble for concern trolling but if he's in the files he's in the files. He was a business mogel in the 80s and 90s and many business mogels took part in Epstein's island. Also these files were seized during Trump's first term when the Republicans controlled every lever of the country.
Mueller investigated for two and a half years, approximately19 prosecutors some 40 million dollars later, say it with me. ZILCH! If there was something on Trump they would have found it, AND PUBLISHED IT, take it to the bank.
Did you read the final report?
No I didn't. But I have ears to hear.
I'm not saying you are wrong, but you are overly confident considering:
I wouldn't say overconfident, I'd say confident. 1. Mueller a Republican? What does that mean, is Paul Ryan a Republican?. 2. You read the report, but have not listed, what makes you unconfident, and neither did the Democrats 3. If there was anything on Trump (true and provable) the Democrats would have brought it out, even if it brought down some of their own, to save themselves from what they know is coming. 4. I am on the opinion that Trump was handpicked by Q, for a number of reasons, one of which is that Trump was clean(when Q said they have it all, they mean they have it all) that would include all information on Trump, they would not have picked Trump for a plan 20 years in the making, if there was dirt on Trump that the Democrats could use to bring down the one they chose to implement their plan,. 5. Prophecy by Kim Clements, (approximately 5 years before Trump announced he was running for president) Kim Clements prophesied Trump would be President, that God would raise him up as a trumpet for two terms, and that Trump would overturn Roe versus Wade, which was (thought) a impossibility at the time of the prophecy. With this in mind, very hard for me to imagine God raising up a practicing pedophile. 6) If Trump was on the island and participated in what supposedly went on,onthe island, or elsewhere with Jeffrey, then he's a liar of the worst sort, for Trump has emphatically denied these accusations. When have you ever come across a liar, who keeps his word? All his campaign promises(promises made promises kept) at great cost(I might add) to himself, as well as his family? Trump is in no way perfect, even as you and I are not, but God sees the heart, and I am convinced God has raised up Trump for a time like this, for No one can Do What Trump is doing, and has already accomplished, with opposition from, Democrats, rhinos, politicians across the world, the full power of mainstream media, Hollywood Elite and all the talk shows, opposition the likes of which, is to say, in the natural "unbearable" unless God was with him.
The possibility of those files being altered is virtually nil then? So no way in hell they were ever accessed or meddled with in any way shape or form while allegedly under lock and key?
Anyway, if he’s legitimately in there, which he very well could be for a MYRIAD of reasons, I feel like the absolute worst of it MAY have been having Jeff launder money for him. You have to realize that if Trump was indeed a nasty pedo, he would’ve been buried a LONG time ago. And it’s hard for me to believe he even had Jeff do ANYTHING for him. His opposition would’ve crucified him for it.
The FBI and CIA were certainly not controlled by pro-Trump people of either party during his first term.
The problem now is that him being present in the files now, which he certainly will be, will be conflated with him molesting 16 year olds on Epstein Island by the mainstream media
Dude flew on the plane twice, surely he's referenced in these documents somewhere else. Doesn't mean he's guilty of rape. If you read any comments on the matter, however, it's full of libs saying "he's on the list so he should be in jail" without any context
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I don't believe for a minute that Trump was involved with Epstein. Trump knew who he was and what he was up to with his honey trap. Trump is smarter than that. Besides Trump is not into young girls he has always had model girlfriends, why would he fool around with kids when he could get any beautiful women he wanted. Come on it just does not add up. It's all garbage.
He's the only one who cooperated against Epstein according to one of the prosecuters
This is one of those tasks that falls to We, the People.
Not to those named in the files or even to President Trump himself.
WE will look at this evidence and make up our own minds, just as a jury is instructed to do.
And those of us here have been in training for a long time, you could say, to learn to sift through all kinds of wildly different evidence and draw an intelligent conclusion.
Even with all the insanely advance high tech we have today, offering us ways to find the truth, it will still boil down to just one thing:
Do you believe this person, or don't you?
It always comes down to that.
The evidence may require some sophisticated forensics as well as some intelligence. Im pretty sure they would have tried to plant something. So its high be tricky to manage. But Trump would not have run again for president if there was anything on him they could use in this regard.
Anything that came out of the Obiden administration could be corrupted, or not valid due to an invalid presidency.
Yes, they were corrupted, he said that early on, weeks ago.
Trump has kept details records of where he goes. It would not be a surprise if the plant was (Fyi, Pseudonym used by Donald Trump) Mr. John Miller. The Leftist media will run with it, then they will have egg on their face once it is proven to be fake news.
Obstruction of Justice.
Are we expecting to be shown what was planted in the files as evidence against Trump?
I wonder if the files going to be so obviously edited, showing all the layers in photoshop, like Zero's birth certificate?
I'll say it again. I don't care if he is in them. Maybe he hooked up with a 16 year old model once. I doubt he ever even looked at anyone prepubescent and that's why he thought Epstein was a creep.
Hell there's probably 16 year old MAGA girls who would willingly sleep with Trump bear or Don Jr or Eric if they had the chance. Humans are a bunch of degenerates the world over..unless they are fiercely religious or subscribe to a higher calling. America has the highest rates of infidelity and STD rates too high for a first world country. People's virtue signaling is beyond hypocritical
whoa. if this is your reasoning, then how dare we criticize any other person for hooking up with a minor. Maybe this is not what you mean, but, if its okay for him to do it, then its okay for clinton to do it. It is not okay, across the board. period. If it is okay, then lower the age of consent. Problem is, these girls were procured and groomed for sex, they didn't just show up knocking on Maxwells door saying, hook me up with Jeff and his friends for a sex massage,, I need the money. They could have found and hired plenty of young looking escort girls (18-21) for that purpose. The only time I would be willing to be less conservative with my view, is if a boy turns 18 and his girl is 16, and they have been sweethearts and went all the way. Why hold liberals to standards if you dont hold conservatives to the same? I do believe more will be revealed, and that there is no political side that will come cleaner that the other. DC , back in the day, had more massage parlors in the yellow pages than motels. I am not happy with how Bondi handled this, non of this bullshit distraction would be taking place if she had kept her mouth shut. He should have gone with Matt Gaetz as AG, he is smart as a whip and does not need to be some climber.
How many biblical examples of reformed people are there? How many were dark turned to light? What is the chance an almost 80 year old Trump who works 20 hours a day is still fooling around with teenagers? None.
I don't want Clintons or Obama arrested over sexual deviances or anything moral. I want them arrested for war crimes, plotting against our own nation, using government to enrich themselves and trying to rig multiple elections to have a chance at plunging the greatest country on Earth into a socialist hellscape.
At least those are my priorities. God can sort the intangible stuff out later
What the fuck is wrong with you? These girls are victims. It is absolutely not ok for grown adults to lure 16 year olds into sex.
Nothing is wrong with me. I'm a realist. an old rich man sleeping with teenage models is not the same as a degenerate raping six year olds. From a logistical point of view, defining a 16 year old as a child and an 18 year old as an adult is absolutely illogical. Science has confirmed the brain does not hit maturity until about 25 and that psychologically that is roughly when adolescence ends. Make of that what you will but if Christ was willing to call a murderer into his service, I do not see how the same does not apply to Trump if the past allegations are true.
Q said we have it all though? 'Full control'
Yeah. He said that years ago. So did Trump. Trump said he "caught them all". Years ago.
So....get where I'm going with this? If we've had them all, for years, why are we still going after them? Did we catch and release? Catch them all, but do nothing from preventing things from starting all over again, so now we're hunting down an entirely new crop of evil doers? Or was someone fibbing years ago about having them all? Or is someone fibbing now about still looking for them?
Or is this some particularly fucked up version of Schrodinger's Cat?
Idk but it's getting old.
The problem is if they?? could put something in they?? could also take something out. So, without the public being able to examine the contents of these files they can't be challenged. That means enough doubt is in place that everyone involved can claim they were victimized by fake info. That leaves only those who were abused to appear in court and point out the people who abused them. How many will do that? It would be a death wish for a lot of them.
The same will happen if videos were released although claiming they were hacked, experts can quickly tell if they were or not. But black hat experts if given access could do something to purposely put a tell tale signature in that would make it a hack. The only issue is does the original videos exist that haven't been tampered with? If so, who has them? They would be worth big $$$ but they could also bring an unwanted death sentence to anyone wanting to ransom them off.
Start with HELLYWOOD and then let's talk CHILD ABUSE....in your face for years!!! NO ONE CARED.....do they now?
😂😂😂😂 Trump is hilarious
"Worst scum on the earth", there's no love lost there.
I don't care what the excuse of the hour is. JUST. RELEASE! THE! EPSTEIN! FILES!
FBI and DOJ know what evidence was used to prosecute Epstein the first time. They know what evidence led to arrest the second time. They know what evidence was used to prosecute Maxwell. Anything that has been added since can be disregarded. I just want the truth. I feel like we are all helping slow roll the whole unravellling of the global cabal of pedophiles!
He's saying MAUREEN COMEY fudged the files. And she's gonna get potatoed when the real evidence doesn't match her shit.
Epstein's fantasy island was raided 2019 during trumps first term, It's not a stretch to imagine FBI coming up with another conspiracy to Frame our POTUS
After all of the hoaxes and frame jobs by the dems against Trump, I will assume they have planted bogus info that looks bad. They have earned and deserve to be mocked.
He’s been saying this.
Well, the biggest issue is that there is evidence all over the place, going back decades, that point to Trump having a long standing friendship with Epstein. ( Edited to add: I want to point out right here that there is nothing illegal with being friends with a horrible person. I'm sure that Trump did not know about illegal stuff Epstein was doing just because they were friendly. I have constantly pointed out to people right here that guilt by association is not a legitimate judgment of character or actions and this is one of the biggest examples of why I say that and try to get people to understand why they shouldn't do it.)
Quotes in magazines and newspapers from years ago, videos of them together, photos of them together, statements made by each of them over the years, all of that has been recorded for years before Obama or Biden or anyone else. And Trump never refuted them when they were made.
It's simply a fact that Trump and Epstein were at the very least close social acquaintances where each made public comments that at least suggested a long standing friendship.
But suddenly all of this was manufactured by Trump's enemies? Trump took all the credit for his justice department being the ones to put Epstein away in the first place. But all of a sudden, we can't trust Trump's justice department either? To be indelicate...bullshit.
And all this stuff that Trump's starting to say that suggests that it's not a priority to release all information we have in regards to Epstein? Also bullshit.
I understand that this is going to really upset the people that tend to blow whatever way the wind is currently blowing. But...fuck 'em.
If people who have been demanding the Epstein files to be released are now singing a completely different tune, well...they can go fuck themselves. At least admit that they never really cared about finding and punishing people that are involved in sex trafficking of children, and are just squawk boxes that repeat whatever their...(I dunno, leaders, I guess we'll call them?) leaders tell them to say.
I'll also point out that this is the same list they've had since Trump was President the first time. I read conversations right here where people discussed Trump being included in the files. At the time, all of the info available about Trump specifically was about him being on certain flight lists (at the time thought to be not to the island, and not with Epstein on board. And then there were people bringing up puboic quotes by both Trump and Epstein, praising the other, and then people would talk about the falling out they had, and speculation about exactly what it was that brought about the end to their friendship (or whatever it was). Was it a bad real estate deal, or did Trump find out about Epstein's fondness for 15 and 16 and 17 year old girls? There was tons of discussion about all that here, in these very chats.
Then all of that has been added to along the way with videos of them, and photos, and quotes dug up from old newspaper articles or magazine articles, going back decades.
And during ALL of that, since Epstein was arrested all the way back in 2019, and was being investigated by President Trump's justice department, there has been a constant demand here for those files to be released. CONSTANT. FOR SIX YEARS.
But all of a sudden, when there's been a very public revelation that President Trump was in the files (again, something that has been known by people here since the beginning), all of a sudden we can't trust those same files that we've been demanding for 6 years?
Now, at no time, ever has anyone said that Trump is guilty of anything simply because his name has been brought up in the files. There are plenty of reasons why his name could be in the files that have absolutely nothing to do with anything illegal.
I'm going to pause here to point out that THIS is exactly why we should not proclaim people guilty by association. We have a horrible habit of doing this with liberals. We have no problem with proclaiming every single liberal named in the Epstein files as pedophiles (complete with demands for immediate public execution as well) simply because they're in the files. I think this is why people get so upset when they hear that Trump is named in the Epstein files. Because they automatically assume guilt by association. Which is just retarded and the knee-jerk reaction of ignorant people. So see, when I tell people that it's not a good idea to judge someone guilty simply because they're associated (no matter how loosely) with something evil, this is why.
Anyway, getting back to the point, just because Trump is in the files doesn't meant that he has done anything wrong or illegal. It just means he's one of the hundreds of names that have come up while investigating. If there isn't any evidence of him doing anything actually illegal, which I'm sure is the case, then there is no reason to keep the files from being released, or casting doubt on their validity, or suggesting that it's not important to release them.
Be honest here. If it was any other President doing this, would you still be doing a 180 in regards to these files?
Seriously, just switch the names around. Pretend nothing else was changed except the names involved. Pretend that President Obama was the one who, six years later was told that their name was in the files, and it was Obama who suddenly started saying that the list was made up by Trump and Trump's people and that they were trying to railroad Obama, and Obama suddenly started acting like it was a huge waste of time to release this list or act on any of the information in it, even if Obama had frequently talked about the importance of preventing child sex trafficking (you know, what Epstein, who the list was made about, was doing), and all of a sudden, Obama has decided the Epstein lists (which had very publicly been talked about and speculated on for 6 years) are BS, and no one should be concerned about them anymore.
Now, be honest, if the names here were switched, and nothing else, who here would say that Obama has a good point and it's not concerning at all that the Epstein list is now not important to him anymore. Raise your hand.
And if you don't hear from me for 3-5 days, this post is most likely the reason. Maybe a few people will get to read it before it's yanked. 🤷♀️
Of course they did
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If it was planted, then I'm sure it can be proven that it was tampered with. You can't tell me that the most-sophisticated military operation in the history of mankind was thwarted by someone manipulating the files when Trump was either secretly president via COG or had someone else in control while Biden played house.
This is either a way to keep pissing off the left and keep them from claiming it was rigged/manipulated against them when it does come out, or it's damage control. I'm going to say it's the former and not the latter.
I am impressed of how Trump has, through the years, pretended to be like a common street person talking! Well done! Some people respect straight up offensive talking. This battle is not for the weak. It needs to be resolved with offence. An entrenched evil enemy needs a frontal brutal attack; no time for pretending to be diplomatic.