Preamble
So I watched this video on X at the request of u/propertyofUniverse after looking at this post on GAW. I did a brief analysis in comments, but I wanted to expand on it. This is as emotion free as I can make it too, and for those commenting on it, I'd expect the same from you if you're serious about the research side of this.
Now I will say I'm undecided as to what's happened, why it happened, if he is alive or dead, all of it. Full disclosure - I never did follow Charlie or TPUSA. they became a thing after I left the USA, and didn't influence me at all.
I also have no data here from the funeral event. And that is by design. Any supposition from that wrt his wife's behavior starts to lean into begging the question and personal incredulity fallacies to me very quickly. I speak from experience that all people grieve in different ways and act in ways contrary to the normal supposition on how they should behave in moments of grief, and as such making claims based on a grieving woman's behavior feels like a weak argument.
Purpose of the Post
Since his "death" (in quotes as I'm now back on the fence about the whole subject), I've written once to highlight how the death has been catalytic to flipping the targets for cancel culture, and at creating a bit of a platform for Christian nationalism, and highlighting them as pretty good things. I still think they are good things too, people advocating murder as a tool for discourse and change deserve losing from the private sector big time.
This said, it is worth digging into the event as well, if for no other reason than to hold the players on all sides to account.
Is the Event other than what has been told to us?
First, watch the video I linked at the start of this post. Yes yes it's 20 min long, but the first half is full of short bursts of data easily digested. I will give a bit of a summary of it here as well, but best to have context.
Watched it? Okay so as much as I'm loathe to say it, I'll admit there is some kind of fuckery afoot. What that fuckery is? No clue tbh. That's for y'all to come to a concensus on. I'm just highlighting what I've seen.
Tyler the Patsy
The shooter is looking more like a patsy day by day. I couldn't read the text wall in the video but I've read some of his comments from news articles and yeah the oddities don't really make sense. The whole exchange between him and his gay lover seem fabricated although I can't put my finger on precisely why. It just doesn't read through like something people would write.
The rifle videos near the start are compelling to say he didn't do it too, as there's no way for it to make sense. That part I'm 100% aligned to. There is zero chance someone can disassemble the rifle fast enough outside Hollywood.
"It's a Squib!"
As for the "it's a squib" argument, the best I've got is maybe for this. Some of the footage they show is quite compelling in that direction, like the artifact like bullet hole video, or the way the shirt is moving with no wound or armor in place.
The "the blood is coming from his shirt" clip is slightly less compelling because it is a little head fucky and there is something of a self fulfilling prophecy vibe to it. Like, "I want to see it that way so that's what it must be" kind of job. It's not enough on its own by any stretch.
The "it's coagulated blood" vid though, that's a lot weaker. The video used as proof ain't good quality to begin with tbh, and video is one thing I do know a little about, unlike ballistic and forensic knowledge of gunshot wounds. zooming on a low res moving image creates a terrible artifact effect which can make liquids look in part solid, like they are coagulated. I'll admit if it was an arterial spray that's not the image I'd expect, but the "it's coming from his shirt and not him" vids were slightly more convincing conceptually.
Where's the blood??
Now the post shooting carry and lack of blood at the crime scene? That's a little more convincing with me, but I'll Devil's advocate the topic. First, I can't explain the "there's no blood" at the shooting site, but the carrying around one? There are elements that can be devils advocated away.
Could have had gauze on the wound being held in place to staunch the bleeding, which is what I'd do before moving a body if I were them. The head moving means very little to me as it's not like Charlie is on a stretcher. He's being manhandled to a truck (odd tbh but 🤷 maybe that's part of the security contract, and better than waiting 10 min for an ambulance), and as such I'd expect the head to move around as he's being put into it, especially if Charlie was unconscious at that point.
That said, the way it does seem to be run like an action scene from a film, and the way there's no blood drops and no obvious dressings of any wound visible... Well it is suspicious at least.
Why no 4k/HD vids??
My biggest problems with everything I've seen so far are the way the videos are so weak. The resolution of most cameras of any decent make circa 2020 or after (one plus, iPhone, pixel, Samsung etc) is much better than the vids shown in the clip compilation or the stuff I've seen online in other posts.
My phone was able to capture stills of a comet in the night in the Indian ocean, and vids of the sea at sunset, that we're crisper than the stuff being aired. Did no one at the front of the venue have a decent quality phone? We're all the cameras at the venue made in the early 2000s or something? Theres only one that does get anything remotely close to HD red and that's the "moving shirt" vids. Even then, it doesn't confirm anything.
Is he Alive? Is he Dead?
These are the questions many want to know the answer to. And let's be honest, we may never find out. If he faked his own death, we may never see him again unless we go to valhalla in gove County, kansas and look for him.
He's likely in witness protection if he is alive, so expect to find nobody. If he's dead, we'll nothing really changed from our current status quo. In the end, the situation is a non starter. The question, though intriguing, is by and large meaningless and dangerous to find out. If we find him alive, it will mean massive harm done to the entire movement that has kicked off. The media will have a field day. The memorial as a "turning point" for the return of America to God's own hands and to sensibility will fall on its ass, as will trump's presidency.
Imagine if Kirk comes out saying "gotcha suckers" tomorrow - people would be demoralised on the right, and the left would go ballistic at the administration. And worse of all, trump would be complicit by leaning into giving Kirk honors the way he did. If he is dead, again, nothing changes really.
If he is Dead, Who Killed him?
This is a better line of questioning. I'm leaning towards ruling out the patsy in favour of mossad crabs, but again without more evidence of wtf happened it's impossible to really know. If he is alive, who executed the plan is an interesting question set, but things like the "static bullet hole" video artefact could be a obfuscation of the means of murder rather than hiding someone from further harm.
The who is again going to require transparency from the investigation which we can already see isn't happening. We can dig and dig, but unless new data comes out, the best we have is a second jfk style piece of madness with shooters potentially all over the place.
If he's dead, how did he actually die?
I've seen some arguments of a bomb in his wireless microphone killing him which are slightly compelling. The shrapnel from a body armor deflection also is somewhat compelling too, although that presumes body armor was worn which isn't proven. That said, I'd expect Kirk to wear it going into enemy territory the way he did. Alternatively it was a long range pro with a frangible bullet round that took him out, and the autopsy is a smokescreen to cover up that the ordinance was outside of the patsy's capability to purchase. Again, without more data, everything is conjecture.
So what are the actually plausible theories?
Here are the ones I know about.
- Current shooter is a patsy, and there was another shooter.
- His mic was detonated.
- He faked his own death.
- The status quo is true or some derivative of it
1 & 3 are to me are still more viable than number 2, as an explosion has a lot of concussive force to deal with, even if it is directed. I rule out 2 as well as I'd expect scorching on the shirt that I've not seen in any shots.
Here's why the others to me are more viable, and some of it is to do with the fallout.
In the case of 3:
- body armor not there
- was never actually shot for real and used a squib
the resulting events were designed by him in tandem with the admin to further the cause of the white hats and trap the crabs and the cabal, while getting lefties to openly declare their intents. Digging too far into this will be counter productive however.
in the case of 1:
- body armor was worn under the t-shirt and reduced the impact velocity of the bullet, but it rebounded and was lodged in the victim.
- in the case of 1, any number of alternatives exist depending on where the wound is. This in its own right is something we don't know beyond autopsy reports and a dodgy video. So again, data is lacking.
And option 4?
- in the case of 4, it's how we've been told, as unlikely as it seems to be. So Tyler did it, the odd text is real, he's a master rifle disassemble who somehow hid parts on his person and then dumped it reassembled in seconds in the woods. The more I think on it, the less it feels real, so I'll argue 1 or 3 is most likely.
So what do you think then is the real reason, 1 or 3?
Me? No clue, and I'm hedging my bets. There are reasons I'm on the fence in this scenario. I'm waiting for the end of the film to work out what happened, who live and who died, and if Charlie will be walking out with either MJ or Junior one day to raucous applause from trump. Or if all of them are actually dead and we need to just accept it as reality.
Conclusion
The one thing I do think at the end of the day, as sad as it is, and as nasty as this sounds, Kirk's death has made him a martyr and all that that entails.
- His death has done even more to push people away from the left than most of his debating and rhetoric.
- It has done more to damage the left than him being alive to fight for the cause.
- It has done more to raise the point of Christianity being under attack than his argumentation did.
I'm not glad he is dead (assuming he is) and I hate that the nation had to realise the level of crazy via such tragedy, but at least they have realised it now. I don't believe that Martyrdom should have been the catalyst, but obviously it has worked towards the end goals of the movement. I just hope and pray no more are martyred for the cause.
By what I think happened isn't really relevant as I tend to look hollisitically at all the data I get. What do you think and why logically did it make sense to you?
This is the attitude I like.
You're plowing through the possibilities in turn and assessing them. If we keep this up, we're likely to get closer and closer to what happened as we discard things that are impossible.
From my comments, you might think that I have made up my mind about what happens, and in the balance of probabilities, I have, but I'll change it again or refine it as better evidence comes in.
IMO this is our job as anons and what we have been asked to do by the white hats.
It's parallel open source investigation, which is the way to show things which the cabal would like to remain hidden.
You know how the other day we were discussing Universal consciousness.. I thought more about it for the Snake Eyes writer, perhaps all he did was tap into that pool. And also why are all these symbols and numbers always shown in movies and media.. maybe the goal is not finding the answer but to make us question like crazy, like how Morpheus would leave clues for Neo to "wake him up".
Nobody has given me any satisfactory answers as to how any of this plan works when it comes to predictive ability. Your suggestion is as good as any to me.
Israel shot Charlie Kirk and we all have to spread the word!
https://greatawakening.win/p/1AR0eJBaHo/
No you dont have to spread the word. Unless you have 100% proof. If you spread the word without that you are no better than the democrats making up stories.
If you watch that video, it postulates that the death is a psyop to bring Israel's crimes to light, not that Israel actually shot him.
Will watch now. Thanks fren.
It's a white hats psyop to martyr Charlie, galvanize a conservative youth movement, and expose the evil and depravity of the left. Charlie is alive and now he can practice what he preached. Being a present father
Of all the various times people have theorized someone has faked their death…from Elvis, Tupac, Michael Jackson, JFK Jr., Andy Kaufman to now Charlie i have NEVER seen any actual evidence of ANY of it even being close to being true. It would require an impossible number of people to be in on it and people not find out and you wouldn't do it in this way. Charlie is dead guys. We just need an autopsy to know the ballistics questions. Thats it
Charlie Kirk Autopsy Report: No Exit Wound Confirmed, Awaiting Official Release By Harvey Updated September 21, 2025
Charlie Kirk Autopsy Report Release: No Exit Wound Confirmed The aftermath of Charlie Kirk’s assassination has been filled with emotional tributes, political turmoil, and now, a puzzling medical detail that has captivated public attention: the absence of an exit wound. Kirk, the influential conservative founder of Turning Point USA, was fatally shot during a speaking event at Utah Valley University on September 10, 2025. While a suspect is in custody, the official autopsy report has not yet been publicly released, leaving room for speculation and conflicting narratives about the exact circumstances of his death.
In the absence of an official coroner’s report, a surprising explanation emerged from Charlie Kirk’s inner circle. Andrew Kolvet, Kirk’s longtime producer, shared details with the family’s permission, quoting a surgeon who worked on Kirk. The medic claimed it was a “miracle” that the high-caliber bullet, fired from a powerful .30-06 rifle typically used to hunt large game like elk or moose, did not exit Kirk’s neck. The surgeon suggested that Kirk’s “healthy bone density” stopped the round just beneath the skin, preventing it from striking people behind him and thereby “saving lives” even in death.
https://houseandwhips.com/charlie-kirk-autopsy-report-release-exit-wound/
How are they going to hide him while he is a present father?
I hope so, but part of me also hopes we don't find out that's the case, lest he gets found somewhere in the wild and all hell breaks loose on all sides.
There are comms to suggest we might find out.
Kash talking about Valhalla is a comm
Q talking about us not believing who is talking to us, and it being biblical are also comms if you ask me.
I have wondered since the beginning which person will re-appear in the narrative when we think the are dead. It might be Charlie, although it could be Epstein. Not sure.
Anyway, if Charlie were to still be alive and the public finds out, they are going to have to be told the whole story as to why such a thing is necessary and it had better be REALLY REALLY good.
I mean, I want that explanation too.
Charlie Kirk Autopsy Report: No Exit Wound Confirmed, Awaiting Official Release By Harvey Updated September 21, 2025
Charlie Kirk Autopsy Report Release: No Exit Wound Confirmed The aftermath of Charlie Kirk’s assassination has been filled with emotional tributes, political turmoil, and now, a puzzling medical detail that has captivated public attention: the absence of an exit wound. Kirk, the influential conservative founder of Turning Point USA, was fatally shot during a speaking event at Utah Valley University on September 10, 2025. While a suspect is in custody, the official autopsy report has not yet been publicly released, leaving room for speculation and conflicting narratives about the exact circumstances of his death.
In the absence of an official coroner’s report, a surprising explanation emerged from Charlie Kirk’s inner circle. Andrew Kolvet, Kirk’s longtime producer, shared details with the family’s permission, quoting a surgeon who worked on Kirk. The medic claimed it was a “miracle” that the high-caliber bullet, fired from a powerful .30-06 rifle typically used to hunt large game like elk or moose, did not exit Kirk’s neck. The surgeon suggested that Kirk’s “healthy bone density” stopped the round just beneath the skin, preventing it from striking people behind him and thereby “saving lives” even in death.
https://houseandwhips.com/charlie-kirk-autopsy-report-release-exit-wound/
If the whole truth is made known, what will be the possible reactions be, Left & Right?
I just watched the Mike King video where he addresses this question, he says what I think really.
When the real mindblowing cabal truths finally come out, the public will understand and won't mind details like Charlie Kirk's fake death in comparison, especially if they were instrumental in bringing the other info into the open.
I guess this is the best case.
Thanks, I'm open to the truth & truth is what's important. So far, the 'Official Narrative' has had an overall positive effect.
Here is the video I was referring to:
https://greatawakening.win/p/1AR0eJBaHo/israel-shot-charlie-kirk-and-we-/
It might cement those thoughts.
I was not able to explain the movement of his shirt before the hole showed up in his neck. The movement of the shirt never made sense, and the sound of the shot definitely came from the front. The people arguing that a "real" shot came from the back or side did not explain the shot sound from the front. Also, anyone who hunts game listens for the impact of the bullet. There is a definite thud or womp which tells you how good the shot it.
I recommend this video https://youtu.be/y6zPjo5Vogc?si=NotOmkCfnUDcSIWE
I think it was a subsonic round which would explain more of the popping sound akin to a .22 or lower caliber. It also could account for drop in aim as Robinson was likely aiming for head.
But with that being said I still am open to any possibility; shirt movement both front and back still has me baffled though...
The move of the shirt and the dot on his shirt that moves up towards the neck as the shot is fired don't make sense
I dont think he is alive. Some people showed the entire thing. When he was shot he looked funny to me like he had no neck holding his head.
When we were told the bullet went into his neck shattered multiple vertebrae than that explains why it looked like he had no neck it collapsed. The bullet exploded inside him where fragments were sent everywhere including his heart, lungs and some landed in what was left of his neck.
I do not know if Tyler is a patsy or not but his own family turned him in because he told them he did it so I would assume from that he did do it. He may have had accomplices.
All those videos that show the hand signals what looked to be a cell phone gun, what looked to be a shot from above and what looked to be a guy using a palm gun in front of charlie are nothing.
You could make a lot out of nothing. I know this when my life was threatened when I was 33 years old by someone that worked for the Hamilton Mob. When you are looking over your shoulder every single person looks guilty to you. Thats exactly what law enforcement sees when they are investigating.
Kash told you everything is being investigated including the hand signals and everything else from that day. So how about we wait. I trust Kash there is no reason for h im to hide this.
As 2 hunter friends of mine have noted. A 30 aught six would have decapitated him. They have shot .30-06 before and went thru 2 shoulder blades of a deer and punched an exit wound so big my friend put his clenched man fist inside it
They said, "what you saw was not an exit wound, and yet his head went the wrong way"
They are CO-RRECT
That leans towards my own frangible round theory, which is something that isn't as common as a normal one.
I'm going to pick up on this. In the video immediately after the shooting when you see his staff surround him for 10 seconds nobody appears to attend to his neck.
Why does nobody compress the wound? I don't think they are compressing it when they are carrying him either.
I'll look for this video clip as I don't think it was referenced anywhere here.
edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2_JfLXmftA
moment 17.30. They've hoisted Charlie up, but no one is holding his neck.
Feel free. I'll be happy to be taken off the fence one way or the other. It's not a comfy seat.
I edited and added the video reference
The "look at his shoes!" moment is an oddly compelling argument that they carried out a body double out.
Haven’t heard about the body double theory. But not really sure how that could be possible with so any eyes on??
At first, I thought all of those things as well, but once the shock wore off I really started thinking of all the visual evidence we have/know and logically what it means. Like the reaction his body had the split second after he was hit, the amount of blood almost instantly gushing from his neck, the way his body looked as they were moving him to the car, and yes, the lack of anyone holding pressure to the wound as far as we could see.
I could only come to the conclusion that he died instantly and they knew that. Otherwise, you WOULD be holding pressure and doing every life saving measure you can think of. They knew he was gone and they were trying to hurry up and get him to the car and out of the public eye. Why they had all those narratives out about him getting a blood transfusion, etc., who knows!? 🤷🏼♀️ I just personally think he died instantly, they knew that, and Erika and one of the guys with him seemed to even indicate that with things they said at his memorial. Like Erika saying he didn’t suffer and that one minute he was debating and the next he blinked and was looking at his Saviour. That’s the very definition of “dying instantly”.
Just my personal take from everything we do know 🤷🏼♀️..which isn’t much 🙄 but I think we know enough to at least logically say that he was never alive at any time after the bullet struck him, let alone when he was at the hospital.
Or, equally, they knew that it was a fake "hit" and he was perfectly OK. Why does everyone want Charlie to be dead?
One of the biggest arguments against him faking his own death, and never to see his own family again, is that he seemed to ABSOLUTELY LOVE his wife and kids. Who is going to throw that away?
They don't need to never see him again, should he be in witness protection.
They just need to protect him long enough for those that they know planned to kill him are either dead or in prison, along with anyone else they worked with
Excellent post, but I just want to address the point about camera quality, because I see it a lot, and it’s honestly the least compelling piece of evidence and I’m gonna argue that it should be ignored.
Most people vastly over-estimate the capability of their phone camera. No, your phone wouldn’t have done any better in this situation. Cell phone cameras are great at landscapes, or close-range portraits, but fully suck at everything else.
Sure, your phone may have “4k!” or even higher, but there are a couple things to consider:
Quality is more of a function of sensor size, not resolution. Phone camera sensors are tiny, so the more pixels you cram on them, the worse they actually are. The close proximity of the sensor cells causes color bleeding and other artifacts.
Phone cameras (except for the very highest-end,) have shitty wide-angle lenses that can’t be zoomed. Zooming in on your screen is not the same thing as a physical zoom lens. On MOST phones, “zoom” is accomplished by simply blowing up the digital image, which in turn reduces the overall resolution. So anyone in the crowd who was zoomed-in on their phones were no longer filming at “4k”, but rather a much reduced resolution.
Those two factors combined are why cell phone videos always look like shit. It’s not some big conspiracy to hide all the “good” footage… It just so happens that most conspiracy-related events don’t fall into the camera’s wheelhouse of “landscapes or close-up portraits.” That’s all.
Thank you for attending my lecture.
Very good points concerning the cellphone footage.
There were professional cameras there too, you can see one of Charlie's crew take down a camera from the tent seconds after the incident.
I think I heard that there were three professional cameras in the vicinity of the tent.
The question to me is, why are we only getting the amateur footage, and not much of it either?
I think he's dead and not dead.
He's dead because TV says so, shot in the neck is usually fatal.
Not dead because where's the blood, and why the bullet looking thing flew out of his shirt and bounced to the other side of the neck and squirt blood and yet when they carried him, no blood and shirt no longer said freedom on it and soles of his shoes are spotless white. Why no autopsy or was that the fastest autopsy in the world or what?
Kash said Valhalla. Valhalla is also shown on Tyler Robinson's computer screen-- that's the picture they showed to the public like that's the only picture they have of him, right? Link: https://www.facebook.com/groups/307772263004067/posts/2233980103716597/
Erika is already out there getting hair bleached, nails done, doing podcasts! And even sharing a laugh or two. Doesn't she need to be home taking care of her 2 kids, mourning, crying, snots coming out of her nose, swollen eyes from all the crying. I know I wouldn't be able to properly function and even if I try to hold it together i'll burst into tears every hour or my eyes would be so swollen for weeks like when i lost my grandma whom I love to death. i still cry now and it's been 4 years.
Kirk's parents were not at his Sunday funeral (I call it more a revival or concert since they even have fireworks..WTF?) Where are Kirk's parents and kids??
Erika's music video from 10-13 years ago showed billboard huge time clock showing 9:10 (What is the Universe trying to tell us? Can we be trolled some more? I think the message is clear)
Snake Eyes reference:
Tyler (robinson) - Patsy, Trump - Taj Mahal, Charles Kirkland -shot in the neck (same position), date: 9/10, Tropical storm JEZEBEL - (magazine that bought the Etsy curse), It was to do with Israel and Palestinian (per usual), Pretty black journalist reporting - ref to Candace Owen? who is fiercely pursuing.
What if the coincidences in movie & music video were deliberate.. to put us where we are today.. Questioning everything and only ending up with more questions.But the goal was not the answer but to make us question like crazy!
Just like Neo from Matrix. Morpheus was OUTSIDE of the Matrix, but he left all these clues for Neo who was INSIDE the Matrix. Perhaps the people or entities leaving us these clues in media are outside the Matrix and they're meant for us to question everything, even our very existence and what Earth really is.
Or perhaps these clues were left for us to show off as in they're in control the entire time (whoever they are) like the UFOs that were showing off their flying skills to the nearby pilots. Perhaps the writers or movie producers themselves aren't even aware of being used as a channel for all these messages. They thought it was simply their imagination or creativity when in reality their thoughts were controlled and what they wrote down was simply from somewhere else. Maybe good writers are not based on their ability to write but their ability to tap into the universal consciousness where the past, present, and future co-exist in the same pool.
Because I don't think the Satanic cabal would be that meticulous and everything just happened to fall in place number wise. We're all still limited by our humanly bodies.
I come to the conclusion that whoever is writing the script is OUTSIDE of the Matrix. Both sides, our side and the DS are both being controlled (metaphysically speaking) what we speak and think..just take a look at the clowns on the left side. The same way we could also be controlled. Hence, I think this is why Jesus said constant prayers and fasting is required.. perhaps it has the power to protect your mind from being invaded, or change realities or take us out of that swamp pool and deep dark roads.
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Excellent analysis. What really happened? CK is off the chessboard and his death was used for good in awakening and exposure. Details appear to be irrelevant unless brought up again in exposing Mossad/MI-6 operations.
Netanyahu protestations indicate that there likely WAS a Mossad operation to take out CK planned. Whitehats interdicting and creating a "show" while still blaming Mossad for something they planned to do, but possibly did not ACTUALLY do is one big mindfuck on the enemy. All Mossad participants get taken out anyway (by Mossad) because the enemy can't figure out if their assets are lying or have been flipped. Enemy eliminates their own assets for us in this sort of circumstance and they ALSO are off the chessboard due to enemy coverup, confusion, and forced caution.
We lose one, get a martyr, control the narrative; they lose numerous assets and now think they are infiltrated at the highest levels.
Who got exposed?
Utah State University security
Local FBI/law enforcement
Mossad
Democrats
Leftists
Trannies
Governor of Utah (and other RINOs)
TPUSA internal bad actors (ongoing)
I like the way you think.
I collected a downvote probably for being insensitive, but if you are a whitehat running an op and "keeping score" this is the unemotional plus/minus scorecard on this one (hypothetical scenario).
Good angle fren.
Good stuff.
Another thing that I would add that doesn't seem real is that there is video of three different older adults, in a sea of young adults, that appear to be shooting Charlie. Even if it was just finger guns, they seem orchestrated. One incident okay. Two incidents, maybe. But three different people doing this at the exact time of the shooting seems too much for me to ignore.
Just this right here is enough for me to consider collusion.
https://x.com/mlsp1976/status/1969608094713069853?s=61&t=Na9w5fE3ieoT5_-6p6gtUw
https://x.com/realtx_patriot/status/1966548372979896720?s=61&t=Na9w5fE3ieoT5_-6p6gtUw
https://x.com/proselytizer18/status/1966717074215985263?s=61&t=Na9w5fE3ieoT5_-6p6gtUw
Let first say a couple of things. I've already seen the video at the top of this post. From late in the day of this event, I was already skeptical as to the supposed shooter and his location. As time passed I had serious doubts about everything that I was being fed by the information being released. The more I heard, the less I believed. I'm not going into details here. It's already all been discussed here at great lengths.
Whether Charlie is dead or not? Im not sure. I certainly don't believe the official story. But here's what I know and see that has happened since. There seems to be a lot of people that have changed their minds about the overview of the things here in the USA and the world. One could argue that Charlie's "death" has served to make big things happen very quickly. Was his "death" a political tool?
I remain open minded and have not completely subscribed to any answer because there doesn't seem to be one that I can buy. These are amazing times we are living in. 😁👍🇺🇲
Personally, I suspect that this is a psyop, similar to Butler.
I know many won't agree with that and will even take offense to it, which doesn't bother me.
The visuals on this right out of the box, were horrific. I'm thankful they didn't do that to Trump.
There are several competing theories discussing HOW he "died". It ranges from:
Plus, No LEO lockdown; People taking down cameras with no oversight/roped off area; No blood drip; His body didn't go limp; He held his unsupported head up as being taken to a black suburban even though there were ambulances on campus etc.
Ever cut your finger/thumb in the garage and have to get a towel...How many drippy drops do you find on the floor after you come back to where you cut yourself? (A LOT!) - Be he gets shot in the neck and there's no blood other than the THICK chunky stuff we saw on the first video...It wouldn't be like that - It'd be THIN.
Israel* - This can go one of 4 ways:
Israel did it because Charlie "refused their advances" and was starting to call out their BS as a public speaker with a lot of followers.
Israel did it because they want to speed up the world turning against them because it's prophesized that the whole world will turn against Israel and God will assist them in victory.
Israel did it because Trump/WH are moving too slow & the enemy of my enemy is my friend - in the battle against other heads of the hydra known as the [DS], like those pushing for a one world govt. (Factions against both Israel and the USA)
Israel didn't do it at all, but they're being blamed for it to steer geopolitics and the court of public opinion.
*When I say "Israel" I'm not talking about the Jewish people, Israel of the Bible, the religion or regular people living in Israel. I'm talking about Netinyahoo and his regime and the NPOs and NGOs behind him in the shadows.
So...there was a BIG memorial service...YUGE - many prominent figures there that went on and on all day. I could only watch so much of it. Many parts seemed disingenuous to me - and Trump started talking about tariffs of all things...at a supposed "memorial service", I was like WTF is this bs? It didn't belong...
Charlie was a devout Christian & Christians have funerals.
There hasn't been any talk about, "Out of respect for the family, there is going to be (or was) a private funeral...Send flowers and/or donations to: XYZ"
Did you notice there was NONE OF THAT?
Why? This isn't normal AT ALL!
Cause & Effect - If we zoom way out away from all the drama, theories, mudslinging and emotions, what was the effect?
The attention of regular folks has been captured - across the entire spectrum - Not just existing anons, but many new ones now.
Christianity has been revitalized and "legitimized" in a godless world (according to popular media push)
Americans AND others around the world have been galvanized and again, legitimized - via being on the "right side" of this event & history/rightful living
The hypocrisy of the left has been focused on and called out as WAY over the line with the celebration of his murder
"Normal" has been endorsed and supported via an all day long memorial service, with religion and politics hand in hand - I believe THIS is to galvanize everyone together for what is coming. There are SO MANY moves happening RIGHT NOW - we NEED unity.
In closing, I would say - If this turned out to be a setup/faked etc - Just like Butler (same) - They will NEVER come out and tell us that is the case. NEVER. There's absolutely NOTHING in it for them if they did.
CK as well as Butler, tick many of the boxes on the "This is a psyop" list. Is it? I don't know. I'm leaning that way - but again, we'll NEVER get confirmation from official sources, so...It's on us to figure it out.
All I know is that there seems to be more unity on the right, less tolerance for the left's bullshit and in the past 48 hrs so many things are heating up with Comey & Obongo etc....We are in the Storm right now. This event may have been part of the Plan, as trite and shitty as that sounds right now.
I remember people asking the same about Epstein's (lack of) funeral.
Thanks for your effort in discussing and not arguing about this topic. You have explained about as accurately as could be managed. The shooting and the supposed weapon queered it for me. I have some experience with 30 caliber rifles being shot from an elevated position (tree stand) and at 160 yards what we saw happen to Charlie was not what I am expecting to see. An open casket would not have been possible.
Charlie suffered the same fate as Ashley Babbit:
https://rumble.com/vt5bnx-ashley-babbit-is-not-dead.-jan-6-the-capitol-shooting.html
The whole BOOBA!!! thing was icing on the cake.
She had a whole crew with her, a police escort and everything, she probably had a squib go off too, one hour long video goes into deep detail all the sus things about her "death" and the actors she was with...
Some things I noticed: at around the 5:02 mark of the video ("this video on X" from the very beginning of this post), regarding the hand signals the two guys behind Charlie made - Charlie himself did something right before they did (touched his nose), although his hand movements look much more natural, less deliberate than the guys behind him, so it may be nothing.
At this same part of the video, as OP mentions in his post "his mic was detonated," the narrator is discussing the thing inside his shirt (insinuating it is where the fake blood comes from). I'm not saying it's not, but there's also a video by Redacted that has an interesting take on it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IA93Sh7DUvY (basically speculating that his mic was wired to explode and kill him, by the same people that orchestrated the exploding pagers).
At 5:57 - 5:59, hand signal guy in the black tshirt looks like he's passing something from his right hand to his left. This is even more evident at the 5:09-5:12 part of the video. Again, could be anything or nothing at all, just something to point out.
Some of the reasons why is because: a) it reads more like a debriefing than a panicked confession. b) words like "vehicle" - normal people don't refer to their cars (or Jeeps, if you're a Jeep owner, or trucks) as "vehicles" - that is something a cop would do. c) proper sentence structure - I'm talking about capitalized letters at the beginning of sentences, shit like that. If any of you here have kids, you know that they don't even do this when they're forced to write something on paper, let alone in texting. d) taking the time to write so many sentences while you're in the middle of making an actual getaway. "Bitch, please" as they say.
It looks to me like Charlie's stomach is completely exposed on that carry-out, meaning they probably bunched his tshirt up around his neck which would be staunching the flow, maybe. Like, I'd think you'd have to turn that shirt into damn-near a tourniquet, and we just don't know (or seem to have any video evidence) of Charlie between falling and being carried in the parking lot. What happened in between? Literally no video evidence from that time frame? fishy.
Now the real problem comes if this thing gets blown wide open and if this fakery is true - as you (OP) said, the media will have a field day. Christians and conservatives will become the biggest fucking target on the planet (as if we're not already). The left will collectively lose their shit and it will be open season. So while the truth should always be known, we need to be careful what we wish for.
If Charlie Kirk is alive and was actually in danger of losing his life and this was the solution to that problem, we could dig this thing into the ground so far that we jeopardize his life for real.
Dead or not dead, he is dead on paper, just like any witness protection candidate, and as such, I will leave it all in God's hands to judge, and I'll move on. What's done is done. And I fear the closer to the truth we get (assuming it's anything other than a straight-up assassination), the more need there will be for yet ANOTHER false flag to stop the digging. If I was in witness protection, I'd hope and pray people would just let it be. It's a very hard world to fake a death in, anymore.
Something came up when I was DMing u/LoneWulf about the bloodbag theory. He suggests something which I'd never considered.
Supposing Charlie was rigged with a squib and bloodbag, like you get in a film, but it failed as they do sometimes, and the tubing popped off or it had some other hydraulic fallure.
Lonewulf pointed out that the earliest reports from the crowd were that Charlie was shot in the chest.
Could it be that there was a bloodbag appliance which was designed for the chest, to saturate his white T shirt and it malfunctioned and squirted upwards towards his neck, maybe the tubing showed as well, and they had to quickly edit some cellphone footage with that moving wound patch to make-do?
This would also explain why nobody seemed to attend to his neck or head as they picked him up. They hadn't trained for that, they had practiced for the fake chest wound.
I think this is what happened - exploding microphone battery. Like the exploding pagers: https://archive.ph/b1rjH
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So, why now wouldn’t the left believe it happened with 9-11, Jan 6, Ashley Babbitt, school shootings, and every other false flag ever done? They’re suddenly the conspiracy theorists…they HAVE to analyze the others or they’re just full of shit and know it.
The timing of this is the biggest takeaway. It’s terrible. And yet, “too perfect” for the plan unfolding to wake hundreds of thousands to millions up about how Democrat loons really think.
He is dead.
Respectfully, you don't know anything more than we do, and we don't know shit actually. Every detail in the news could be false. Little clips of shit video here and there is like trying to watch a play thru a keyhole.
This is a high level operation and being in the dark is a feature not a bug
No. This is just wrong-headed nonsense. He was murdered in front of a huge crowd and it was broadcast real-time from multiple sources. If you can't believe that a person who was obviously murdered in plain sight with documentation was murdered, then you need to reassess your thinking skills.
For that matter, you immediately contradicted yourself: you say "You don't know anything more than I do" and then asserted "I know that this is a huge operation". How? Think about this, guy.
There was no body armor you guys. Anyone saying so is a shill. What kind of body armor has nipples? (and don't you DARE say Clooney batman, because ...lets just not go there)
A squib is most likely. Rense focuses on a guy in a brown shirt using a squeeze pistol with the barrel between his fingers, but the prob I have is he could simply also be scratching his arm just before CK was killed. Also, he looks away and then looks at CK a second later and shoots. Who is this guy? The rifleman. No aiming? Or he's just that good with a squeeze pistol / palm pistol
I think exploding mic may be a thing but then where's the mic? on the other side from what I remember. The tshirt blowing up and out, it looks like from the "puff" that he has a pie pan under his shirt, but that's just air, but its even MORE suggestive of a squib in his shirt
I'm on team squib at this point
https://x.com/z6WXnNdwIw13905/status/1971750967835312160
Like 9-11…there are only select videos released. Out of all those others. And the crowd didnt react to a gunshot, they reacted to him. No mass crowd splitting out and ducking. Could it be AI, and the crowd was not as large as seemed, and were maybe in on it? Do we know anyone that was there?
this video around the 3 min. mark will make you rethink everything.
https://youtu.be/N37hVi0xLgk?si=j1PnPCXGmASZRWcB
Not really. A fragment can exit while the bullet does not.
you didnt watch the vid did you
I watched multiple.
The sniper was behind and to right. bullet enters back of his head and clearly one can see bullet or fragment exit and catches his vest making appear to move outward. It wasn't the kid. will find out in about 60 yrs.
This video clearly shows that he was wearing body armor, and the bullet hit the top of the plate and deflected upwards into his neck. That's why his shirt moved.
https://youtu.be/y6zPjo5Vogc?si=NotOmkCfnUDcSIWE
Why did his body armour have nipples? Is that normal?
He was wearing a necklace (probably a cross/crucifix) and an earphone, right ear.
Okay okay okay. I want to think he’s in WP. Lord let it be true!
BUT
What about Frank Turek’s testimony of staunching bleeding, driving with the SUV door open, etc. ??
"Disinformation is necessary" - Q.
Wait...the guy in the video said Charlie was a mason?