Silver possibly up to $144 in the next 4 months
Current spot price is $46.66. Already up 44 cents in the aftermarket trading.
https://www.jmbullion.com/charts/silver-prices/
Gold has increased in price by $680 over the last 6 months as well. Sitting at $3801 an ounce.
Silver increasing to $144 and ounce would be over a 200% increase from today's spot price. A 200% increase in gold price over the 4 months would put it at $11,390.
Gives new meaning to the Trump term, "Golden age"
President Trump's executive order allowing people to invest their 401k into precious metals starts in February. This could possibly send the metals markets to the moon.
People pulling money out of the stock market to reinvest in precious metals, the stock market could possibly tank. If this happens, it would be a perfect opportunity for Trump to make his move to end the Federal Reserve's control over our monetary system. Refusing to lower interest rates, uncontrolled debt, crashing stock market. Trump will argue the Fed Reserve has failed to live up to its promise to protect our financial system from volatility, which was the Fed Reserves stated function.
Just broke $47.00 per ounce.
The value of silver is going to go bananas.
Reasons silver will "moon"....
Over the last 5 years, more has been used than has come out of the mines. Scarcity.
US Government, about a month ago, categorized silver as a "critical metal". It is needed for the USA to maintain its strength militarily.
All of your military drones and other computerized weapons contain silver...and we have been burning few quite a few munitions lately....with www3 potentially in the future.
Your computer, your phone, your tesla, all contain silver. AI data centers will use massive amounts of silver.
Silver isn't specifically mined...it is a byproduct of mining gold, copper, and other industrial metals. A recession or depression could slow mining of industrial metals and thus silver would not be mined.
Central Banks are massively buying including China and Russia. Saudi Arabia just bought a massive amount...and they are demanding physical delivery of the metals (not a paper contract saying they own silver).
Without all of that demand...the average gold to silver ratio over the last 500 years has been 12-15 silver to 1 gold. With more industrial demand as mentioned above...that ratio should be dramatically lower than the historical ratio, instead...it is currently 80 ounces to 1 gold. Based on history without all the industrial demand, silver should be $200-$300 an ounce.
Finally, silver has been massively manipulated and shorted to keep it cheap for manufacturing of military and consumer items. For every 5.5 ounces claimed on paper...there is only one ounce of silver. Think of GameStop on steroids.
Long story short....I think Silver will be four digits within a few years. Not investment advice....but I personally think it is one of the best opportunities of our lifetimes. When shtf, what is a $112,000 bitcoin going to be worth when it has no military or consumer value? Silver will have value.
Everything points to it going way higher…possibly sky high…and relatively soon.
I’d expect one or major Tech firms will place bulk orders for Physical Silver and Gold to keep meeting production quotas here soon as the price keeps ticking up. The ones that didn’t would likely follow.
Once that occurs. The price of physical Gold and Silver will probably moon. I’d expect investments in resource extraction will also payoff handsomely.
Silver will move up more than gold,at this point I belive.
More than likely. It’s got more utility in manufacturing. Which would make it more desirable. Though I’d expect prices of both to skyrocket
Right now silver / gold index is 80/1.
Takes 80 ounces of silver to buy 1 ounce of gold.
When it is mined from the ground it is at an 8 to 1 ratio.
You get 8 ounces of silver and 1 ounce of gold when they are refining it.
It is at 80 to 1 today because hedge funds have been shorting silver. Dumping large volumes on market, price drops and they buy back afterwards. They then sell when the price gets high and make a profit. Sucking the wealth out of the silver market.
If we expect the price to go back to 8 to 1 index, silver has a long way to travel which makes it a better buying opportunity, you can buy it cheap right now but that will soon change. If you look at the US Debt Clock secret window you will see "variable asset leveling index".
This will be a tool to detect and deter market and commodity manipulation.
https://www.usdebtclock.org
I’m holding100 oz I bought when it was under $20/oz. You wouldn’t believe what I spent to beef up security at my place.
Hopefully you have a false cache with a couple bits of "loot", with your real cache doubly well hidden...
I’m not going to get into detail, but anybody looking won’t even find the room.
Smashed down to 46 and hour ago,and now back up.
That's very unusual for a Sunday night.
This is supposed to be released soon. Adding silver to the list of critical metals.
https://www.pillsburylaw.com/en/news-and-insights/2025-critical-minerals-list-USGS.html
Silver has been underperforming for my entire adult life.
I allocate a bit to it but it's never delivered a windfall for me, and I don't really expect it to until the day the commodities exchanges get wound down for some reason.
lol, yeah. "experts" have been predicting Silver to go to the moon for decades.
based on the gold to silver ratio.
I use silver as a store of value, by getting out of fiat currency. Fiat goes down in value, silver goes up. But it's not a get rich quick thing. Lot's of "experts' tout it like that.
I wonder how much of that has to do with the fact that there is virtually no traditional film these days.
I remember my father getting really upset in the 2000s when it became evident that traditional film was going to forever be eclipsed by digital photos and film. That was one of the main uses of silver other than jewelry and other decorative use, silver halides in the film and paper.
He had a lot of money invested in silver and I think he lost out on a lot of opportunity because he was waiting for it to smooth over.
I think that the boom in solar and batteries and other tech stuff has pushed it up a bit farther in the past decade or so.
I could be wrong, though. Just something I remember reading here and there on the issue.
Yessir. I think $250/oz is very realistic within a year.
$47.19 now.
stupid question here.. we bought some silver coins but i mean what do you do to sell, go to pawn shop? or just let it sit there for next generation, just nice knowing it's worth double what we paid for
I know a ton of people that hold silver. We trade constantly instead of cash.
Oh? Interesting.
Trade as in if I want to buy a TV or PS5? We don't really buy anything other than food and necessities
Just find someone who likes silver, they'll buy it for market value.
I've never got rid of any outside of trading I guess.
Sell it back to the big dealers, they have a sell to us tab,or your local bullion/ coin shop if you are in a big city.
https://www.jmbullion.com/my-account/buyback-products/#/?_=1&page=1&filter.metal_type=Silver&filter.product_type=Coin
Thanks!
Best thing is friends or co workers,you can make more and they can get a better deal.
Create an Ebay account. Sell your coins on Ebay. Coin collectors there will pay spot price all day long.
Look up "American silver coins" on Ebay. Over 100,000 items listed for sale currently.
Get a small camera that plugs into your computer or take photos with your phone and upload them into your ad. Write a small description of the item you are selling and sell it.
Get yourself a small scale, weigh the coin in the shipping envelope, type in the weight and the postal service will print you a shipping label with the buyers name and address. Tape that to your envelop and mail it.
Several options available when selling, make it a true auction, highest price at the end on the auction wins. You can set a reserve price where a minimum bid must be placed and the bidding price starts from there, You can give free shipping or charge the buyer for shipping.
If you charge the buyer for shipping, you typically get less for the coin in the auction. People typically subtract the shipping cost from the amount they will pay for an item so they are still paying spot price.
Ebay takes a small percent of the sale price. They do not take money from the shipping cost. So people sometimes charge more for shipping and that reduces the amount taken by Ebay.
I bought and sold coins on Ebay for many years, you can find some really good deals. You have to be good with your math and calculator skills as the auctions are ending and know the going price of silver.
Be careful when buying, there are scammers. Make sure you are looking at the sellers approval rating. Beware if their ratings suck. Coin companies sell stuff on there. They could have 500,000 ratings with a approval of 100%, they are safe.
If you see someone selling a American Eagle at 50% off market value and they have 50 people providing a approval rating of 0%, it is a scam, stay away.
Do not go to a pawn shop, they will rape you.
Places like JM Bullion will pay you 12% below spot price, that is how they make money, along with premiums when you are buying.
I sold some silver coins on there. They were originally bought from a reputable dealer so they were real. The buyer was a no good thief. He told eBay they were fake so he was supposed to send them back. I got a box back with some small pieces of junk in it. Going by the tracking, eBay said they were returned and gave him his money back. I had to go through a ton of crap to get my money returned to me. So you can get shafted by a no good buyer, too. I’ve been selling on there since 2005 and I never had an experience like that. Btw the fees are higher now and they are charged on everything including the shipping. I see a lot of coins now that are cheap and the seller is in China. No way, they are real.
I've been an eBay seller since 2001.
I stopped selling in like 2010 when they started fucking over the sellers and always siding with the buyers no matter what.
I would NEVER sell on eBay ever again, nothing but scammers now.
Sell your metals in person to a gold shop or some either way, like to a bullion dealer
I wouldn't sell without calling a few places and asking what they will give you.
Price a pawn shop or a refiner, with a coin selling or trading directly is probably an option. There used to be gold buying places in the places where you find payday loans/Vape shops/CBD oil type strip malls, but they took decent chunk on a coin.
Handy & Harman used to be the place to sell gold and silver back in the day, went out of business I think, but looks like a refiner out of Singapore bought the name. There are equivalents I'm sure.
There are plenty of bullion dealers you can sell too. Not the pawn shop.
I'd hold on to them for one of two scenarios:
SHTF - silver is the 'poor man's gold'. If the economy collapses, silver exists in small enough denominations that you can use it to buy/barter for things you really need: food, fuel, etc.
Hold on to it as a store of value. Much better than fiat currency in the bank.
I recommend 'stacking' silver piece by piece, for the two reasons outlined above. Also, if you get enough, if and when it goes massive, you can then use it to buy other things. Like a car, etc,
In order for gold and silver to increase by the same percentage (200% e.g.) would require for the fraudulent control system to remain intact. Without all the silver short sales, the price of silver should be about $380 to $480/oz. That assumes 3800 gold/oz is about the correct price, which I think is close (at most it is off by 20%, and probably a lot less).
Gold is, historically, very close to appropriate for inflation. Indeed, gold was, for a very long time, the intentional ratio of inflated USD to gold, by law (controlled by the Rothschilds). That "changed" in the 1990s (I don't remember the exact year off the top of my head), but that "removal" from Rothschild control was only by the laws that they created themselves, so it's almost certainly controlled by the same entity and that change was purely illusionary.
I'm sure there's fuckery there in the price of gold, but it's not by very much. I wouldn't expect gold prices to increase by a lot. The world wide price of gold is the intentional hedge against inflation (or deflation). It's the barometer the PTB uses to control the economy. It's not "an investment," it's the currency the PTB use for their internal barter system.
Yes, you are accurate. gold is closer to its real actual value. I was getting over excited when I came up with that number.
I could see it going up another $1000 in the short term.
It is rising, up almost $400 in the last month. It is not keeping up with the pace of silver though.
I'll disagree with you here. You're not taking into account external factors and supply and demand. If a lot of countries (including the US, the largest economy on the planet), go back to the gold standard or a bimetal standard then that means MASSIVE gold AND silver purchases that permanently take that supply off the market. Combine that with investor FOMO (like what's happened with basically every crypto currency and meme stock with the slightest bit of potential in the last decade), and you have a perfect recipe for external pressure to drive the price of both metals up massively more than a few thousand each.
People on here and elsewhere have done the math and while I can't remember the price of gold when taking into account the price manipulation (naked shorting, etc.), The price of silver is estimated to be somewhere around$5,000 to $12,500 an oz without any form of manipulation depending on how you measure it with gold being significantly higher than even that.
Combine that with new gold/bimetal standards creating massive supply shortages and FOMO from the get rich quick crowd and wall street bets types, and BOOM. you have a perfect recipe for gold and silver to, at least temporarily go sky high to the point that gold is worth hundreds of thousands to a million + an oz and silver be worth tens of thousands to a hundred thousand+ an oz.
Of course we're talking about a time period where governmental collapse and financial collapse are happening all over the world, and other factors will lead to this VERY unique scenario that will basically be a one ever situation (IE, it will never be replicated again. So instead of once in a generation, its a once in all of history type of scenario)
Basically, my point is that both metals are primed by a set of absurdly specific circumstances to go on a once in history trip to the moon, at least temporarily. I doubt they'd stay at those prices long term, but temporarily (for a few months or so) they could be the most valuable assets on the planet
My estimate is based on the total amount of silver and gold that exists (in "official" amounts), and by a few millennia of trends. I agree there might be an adjustment period where it peaks to ungodly amounts from FOMO, but it will adjust down to the numbers I have stated because it must by supply/demand of the global market. In addition, I think the adjustment will be relatively quick (a matter of weeks or days).
If it does go up to ridiculous heights temporarily, there will be relatively few bag holders because people don't have that much money. Those that do, can afford it. Honestly, I think the price can't go that high unless it's the bad guys paying the bill.
In the end, it may even go down because the global population (total demand) may be much less than we think.
It is also very possible that the "BOOM" may be more of a controlled demolition to ensure a less destructive transition.
Well I DID say it would be a temporary high, but you're missing the point. You can't go entirely off of historical precedent with this type of scenario, because there ISN'T a specific historical scenario the perfectly mimics the one we find ourselves in (hence why I referred to it as a once in history event instead of once in a generation or something similar). I'm not much of a crypto person, but people said the same thing about crypto and then bitcoin went from a few hundred dollars a coin to peaking at nearly 18K an oz over the course of a year because of FOMO and supply scarcity back in 2017 and 2018.
That's honestly the best example I can think of to explain what this would be and compare it to and even that isn't an exact one for one, because as I said, assuming world governments start going back to a gold backed or bimetal monetary system, that will crash supply while skyrocketing demand. Combine that with FOMO from investor type buyers, the ones manipulating the price collapsing as institutions and organization, AND general economic uncertainty form the global collapse of the central bank fiat system, and you'll have a small period (I estimate maybe a month or two max) where you'll get those absurd once in history numbers where you could convert your holdings into absurd and quickly convert that into real assets for long term wealth and income generation.
People will find money for this type of thing, junk silver (the type of old coins that aren't pure silver and other such items) will probably become the go to for "normal people" trying to get in from the hype, while actual bullion will be bought up by institutional investors, the wealthy, and what banks don't collapse, possibly even the governments if a bimetal system is adopted.
So it's less that there won't be anyone to buy at absurd levels, and more just the traditional dynamic of stackers being the ones buying oz coins and bars being torn asunder as those same coins and bars are now worth a years salary and now stackers and other normies can only afford junk silver, while bullion grade silver gets put into the same category as gold bullion as far as investments go. Meaning its an entirely different class of buyer.
You also have to consider that, outside of the previous metals markets, other financial markets aren't doing so well. We have MULTIPLE massive bubbles much larger than 2008 and even the great depression ticking away as we speak. The AI bubble, private equity bubble, commercial real estate debt bubble, another residential real estate bubble, etc. Every single one of these is primed to pop and cause a domino effect that would destroy the entire global economic system at once with basically no way of controlling it beyond deciding WHEN it happens. And when that happens, precious metals and other assets (admittedly even crypto will probably benefit) will skyrocket as those WITH money rush to protect themselves, adding ANOTHER layer of compounding to all of this.
I agree with you this is NOT sustainable, and there's no way in the long term gold is worth hundreds of thousands to a million plus an oz or silver tens of thousands to a few hundred thousand an oz. That's absolutely not sustainable in any way.
BUT, for a brief period of time (again, I'm personally estimating a few months from start to peak, to crash) those stupidly absurd valuations probably WILL be "the norm". It'll be like bitcoin or meme stocks on steroids, and anyone who plays it smart and doesn't get greedy (IE, doesn't try to hit the peak but cashes out at a reasonable valuation for their personal situation) will come out of this like a bandit.
I wasn't kidding when I said this is a once in history type of scenario. All of the pieces that had to come into place PERFECTLY for this specific thing to happen will probably never happen again due to a combination of regulation, changes to the economic system, market normalization, etc. etc. So historical precedent is good for the END price estimation yes, but as far as the peak price? You have to look to other precedents besides historical gold and silver prices. Investor culture today is much different than it was 70 years ago (Wall street bets and FOMO types), and economic conditions like what we currently have are kind of unique in a historical context.
Overall, everyone should just make the decision for themselves. I PERSONALLY think people can still make A LOT of money if they get in at this point since the potential for more is still there (someone did the math on another post a few days ago, and based on the current supply and demand, without manipulation silver SHOULD be $12,500 an oz I believe they said, due to destroyed supply from industrial use, lower mining rates, and perpetually increasing demand from multiple sources), but everyone has their own "get in" and "get out" hurdles.
Regardless, and this is probably the most important thing in all of this, this is all just a sign the cabal has lost control and this war is nearing its end, which is good for all of us.
4 months.
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So I got 2 weeks.
I'm in as far as I can afford, but that would be a great day to see.
Why?
Partially due to mandates recently set by China, India, Indonesia etc.
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https://youtu.be/INoWdAW0DMQ
Another reason why it's going skyhigh: https://silverwars.org/
And similar to that, Samsung is Going into production on their Lithium ion-crushing silver battery.
Because of Silver, you get these improved performance characteristics:
Samsung’s Silver Solid State Battery Technology: 1 Kilogram of Silver per Car
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Feeling pretty good about stacking at $14-17 right now... and buying in at $47 seems like it could have already peaked... but I don't think so.
You have to keep in mind that when silver and gold go up in price, for the most part - but not completely, due to increased industrial demand, it's going up because the paper USD currency buying power is yet again, going down.
Stacking PM, for me anyway, has been primarily about wealthy preservation vs leaving FRNs sitting in a bank. However there ARE ways to "invest" in a single coin and grow it by following the 80/50 rule, alternating trading gold for silver and vice versa as the markets rise and fall.
This isn't the video I wanted, but it illustrates the point: Dealer Reveals Gold Silver Ratio "Trick" All Stackers Should Know
Don't put all your eggs in one basket...
Keep in mind that ALL currencies are inherently worthless, including crypto currencies. You should really watch Mike Maloney's videos on money to understand why I say that.
You want PHYSICAL gold or silver that you can hold in your hand and feel the weight of it. Don't buy silver or gold paper... it's ratioed out AT LEAST 5:1 right now and will probably get worse in the next few months as silver takes off. That means they have sold 5x the number of silver IOUs on paper vs what they ACTUALLY have in physical... so don't fall into that trap.
Also...in recent times, they've begun permitting gold/silver to be used in IRAs. READ THE FINE PRINT!!! This does NOT allow for physical gold/silver - paper ONLY! It's pretty messed up and creates a lot of confusion for people that don't know.
Self reliance is the way. You acquire physical. You manage, store and protect it... and you keep your mouth shut about it. You don't tell your broker/financial advisor about it or anyone else. It's none of their business. Welcome to old school stashing and wealth preservation. It's everything the herd isn't doing and everything your great grandparents would do.
Don't wait too much longer... everyone should have at least some... and it's gonna hurt a little at first, but as time goes on, you'll thank yourself.
The best way I've found to acquire physical has been using an online retailer. Avoid coin shops, eBay, marketplace etc until you understand what the pitfalls are and what you're doing.
Understand what spot price, melt price and retail/premium prices are for a given item.
Most start with silver eagles. After a while, bars... small bars first, then later - whatever is cheapest ounce for ounce.
You are NOT buying PM to trade for a can of soup in some distopian walking dead scenario - so get that bullshit idea out of your head. You're preserving your labor/energy/wealth so that it won't be completely wiped out if there's a financial reset. When the dust settles, you'll have a nice little nest egg to start your life up again. YOU own it... you control it...No middle men or thieves in between.
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EDIT Here's that video: https://youtu.be/x9xNdbYNp9g
If silver goes that high it will be very interesting. Bitcoin will go down in an attempt to bring silver back to manipulation.
I randomly hit LCS (local coin shops) and bullion dealers to sell. I do not call like others do. If silver and gold are going up and the physical trading becomes more normal, why call? The market will creat a buy-back and spot price.
The numismatics will become less demanding if this shoots up. So many will be buying up rare coins and hoarding those.
The niche market I wish would be bigger within the silver is prefer collectible silver which has a higher premium. I am a nerd on things. However if silver shoots this high will devour the premiums I paid for mine but what I would like to see is these LCS and bullion stores accept that niche market.
For instance look up 2025 Cook Island $25 Ultra High Relief 5 oz .9999 Silver Proof Coin.
It is 5 oz silver so it will have that value but to compare that to a Golden Mint 5 oz round is like comparing a corvette to a pinto. Both are vehicles. :)
If the world is crumbling, why panic?
Looks like that old sterling dinnerware might be worth selling in a few months (hopefully right before the price of silver crashes :) )
47.12 at 4:45am cdt.
people are pulling it out of crypto and into PMs
"experts" have been predicting every price you can think ($Y) of in X amount of time.
I'm not saying that silver isn't going up. I have a lot of stuff in silver. And, it's certainly NOT 'too late' to get in. But if you are buying silver to get rich quick, you've missed the point.
It's a powerful store of value, and unlike gold, has great potential flexibility for shit hit the fan scenarios, where economy collapses and cash turns to crap.
Silver is booming, and I expect it to continue to do so. But the "Experts predicting $144 an ounce in 4 months" bit isn't necessary or real. Plenty of experts have been predicting the silver explosion 'next year' for decades.
It will rise, but don't hang on what such 'experts' predict. (having listened to these predictions for 3 years now, um, no.)