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"The Dems are behaving VERY similarly to the Confederates in the 1860’s. They are trying to preserve their slave-class and are defying federal authority, and thus the Constitution. They are openly engaged in a literal treasonous/seditious insurrection. History repeats." (twitter.com) 🏛️ PANIC IN DC 🏛️
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– MuckeyDuck 17 points 246 days ago +17 / -0

Bullshit! Confederates were trying to preserve States Rights.

Look at the mess the Crop Eared Puritan Witch Burners have made of out country.

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– DoEnigmasAge 10 points 246 days ago +10 / -0

States Rights [sic]

For slavery.

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– redlotus69 10 points 246 days ago +10 / -0

How about the right to secede?

The union at one point offered that they keep their slaves if they abandoned the secession movement, and they refused. It was about more than slavery.

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– SubtleSigns 6 points 246 days ago +6 / -0

Slavery had nothing to do with the civil war. Your first sentence nailed it.

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– DoEnigmasAge 2 points 246 days ago +2 / -0

Slavery was written into every state constitution in the Confederacy.

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– SubtleSigns 1 point 246 days ago +1 / -0

And the North had slaves almost a year more than the Southern states.

They should have sent them all back

The Anglo Saxon Caucasians at that time were Israelites so we know about that slavery.

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– DoEnigmasAge 1 point 246 days ago +1 / -0

the North had slaves almost a year more than the Southern states.

The Emancipation Proclamation legally freed virtually every slave in 1863, the 13th Amendment only finally ended it in Delaware and Kentucky.

Anglo Saxon Caucasians at that time were Israelites

No, they weren't.

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– SubtleSigns 1 point 246 days ago +1 / -0

That's a heavier topic but for real.

The journey of the ten tribes is pretty clear.

Let me ask you this, should the slaves been returned back home?

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... continue reading thread?
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– GodzillaTrump 1 point 246 days ago +1 / -0

Right to secede…you dont need a right to do that. They did it anyway.

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– DoEnigmasAge 1 point 246 days ago +1 / -0

There's no right to secede and slavery was written into every state constitution in the Confederacy.

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– redlotus69 1 point 246 days ago +1 / -0

Correct. The issue of secession was discussed but never formally decided by the founders which is why a civil war was fought over it. Now it is illegal to secede.

"Muh slavery wuz in constitution" is irrelevant since there were a shitload of slaves in the northern states, some of which briefly proposed a central Confederacy.

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– DoEnigmasAge 1 point 246 days ago +1 / -0

It is not irrelevant. It is why they seceded.

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– MajorSalt 7 points 246 days ago +7 / -0

Slavery was small potatoes compared to what they were fighting to keep

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– DoEnigmasAge 1 point 246 days ago +1 / -0

They fought to keep slaves.

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– MajorSalt 1 point 244 days ago +1 / -0

They were offered the chance to keep slaves if they joined the union, they declined, what does that tell you?

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– GetsTheNogginJoggin 6 points 246 days ago +6 / -0

The Confederacy banned slavery shortly after seceding.

The civil war being strictly a fight over slavery was a partial lie we all were taught.

Slavery is never, ever justified. But the fingerprints of the British and the Banks were all over the Civil War, and its was about far more than just freedom of our fellow man.

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– NullIsUndefined 2 points 246 days ago +2 / -0

The Confederacy banned slavery shortly after seceding

Really? Is there historical documents from their legislation? Why don't they show us this kind of thing in school? Like other documents

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– DoEnigmasAge 1 point 246 days ago +1 / -0

The Confederacy banned slavery shortly after seceding.

Horseshit.

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– redlotus69 1 point 246 days ago +1 / -0

Not horseshit.

The Confederacy banned the international slave trade in its constitution, but the practice of slavery continued in the CSA.

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– DoEnigmasAge 1 point 246 days ago +1 / -0

That's not banning slavery.

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– NullIsUndefined 1 point 246 days ago +1 / -0

It was a war of principle over slavery.

The North could have let them have slaves in the South and essentially split the country in two.

But they wanted to end it. So they waged war on the South.

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– redlotus69 1 point 246 days ago +1 / -0

A war of principle? Revisionist nonsense. Our civil war was as much a banker's war as most of our other conflicts. The north itself had slaves during the civil war and actually exempted northern states from the emancipation proclamation.

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– DoEnigmasAge 1 point 246 days ago +1 / -0

And the South were slavers.

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– SubtleSigns 7 points 246 days ago +7 / -0

And the Confederates had the baddest flag on the planet, the Confederate Battle Flag

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– TopKek 4 points 246 days ago +4 / -0

The virginia battle flag is pretty sweet.

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– SubtleSigns 2 points 246 days ago +2 / -0

Hmm. I need to look that one up.

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– TopKek 3 points 246 days ago +3 / -0

The confederate flag we know today is, for the most part, the virginia battle flag.

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– SubtleSigns 2 points 246 days ago +2 / -0

Ok that makes sense.

But they banned it from any visibility in public.

Can you believe that? Cancel culture.

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– MuckeyDuck 2 points 244 days ago +2 / -0

GA flag up until 2001 was kick ass too.

https://www.royal-flags.com/georgia-old.html?pimg=2092r.jpg

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– SubtleSigns 2 points 244 days ago +2 / -0

Now that is beautiful.

You have the Georgia side and the Confederate side and 13 stars.

So what the hell happened with cancel culture?

Is it against the law to show them?

But no problem to show a communist flag.

Or the Israeli flag which is satanic.

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– leadvillejim 8 points 246 days ago +8 / -0

Please! Comparing these modern degenerates to the Confederacy is an insult to Southerners, and historians. I suggest you learn more about this history. You'll admire some of those confederates. There were some truly great men among them.

For example, both Lee and Grant are admired, each for their own virtues.

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– Firepit 2 points 246 days ago +2 / -0

Grant is in my family tree.

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– trumpfan75 5 points 246 days ago +5 / -0

Getting pretty insurrectiony out there!

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– deleted 5 points 246 days ago +5 / -0
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– Kunkussion 4 points 246 days ago +4 / -0

Said it since he's been posting; he's a plant, just like Loomer. Got scolded left and right from it, and not to toot my own horn, but I've been right when others were wrong about character (Grassley, Wray, Sessions, even Pence).The same issue then is happening now, and it has nothing to do with political parties. Bankers vs the rest of us. He knows this, and he just outed himself.

Are we trusting Q or not? Lol.

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– magavoices 3 points 246 days ago +3 / -0

Every government official you listed did exactly what they were told to do. Whether innocent or not, whether they eagerly cooperated or reluctantly agreed as a penalty for their crimes, they did exactly what they were told.

I don't get how anyone thinks Q has such power and influence that they can execute a sitting senator (no name), make them all wear house-arrest boots, but on no Trump is so angry at Sessions for disobeying him ...

Was the public at the precipice in 2020? Were they ready to have the military perform policing action on US soil (only available through insurrection act)? At the end of Trump's term, when he supposedly lost?

Every day we go over Q drops looking for deltas that apply today, why bother if Pence was supposed to instate Trump as POTUS in 2020 with the left going bonkers?

Whether the parts they play are villain or whitehats, every government official you listed did as they were told. Pence wasn't supposed to challenge the electoral count, Session wasn't supposed to prosecute Russia Russia Russia at that time, Wray was supposed to look like a bumbling idiot and I don't know what your problem is with Grassley but whatever it is, he was doing what he was supposed to do.

I agree about Loomer and Clandestine would like to think he's anon but he isn't.

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– Kunkussion 1 point 246 days ago +1 / -0

I don't have a problem with Grassley, there was a lot of diss on him a few months ago and then he came through recently, yet again. I don't have an issue with any in parentheses, and as you said, they were told what to do. Q told us who they were and we still got up in arms about it. Regardless of, and as i agree too, the whole "heroes vs villians" 2 dimensional interpretation of all of this, and everyone "has to be on a side, or you're a traitor" mentality is so toxic. There is information and disinformation, and the war is going on with all of us involved, even if we don't want to be.

There aren't drawn lines for factions in this war. This is a multidimensional conflict with no loyalty among thieves.

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– G45Colt 2 points 246 days ago +2 / -0

Clandestine doing some pot stirring to divide people?

Slavery and the Confederation is a hot button for some people, and pushing that narrative isn't adding anything to the current situation. There's plenty of ammo to work with being produced by the left every day.

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– Kunkussion 2 points 246 days ago +2 / -0

Exactly and thank you for saying that. There was a debate in the past about X22 being an agent and I explained about Clandestine, and I got lit up over it. One may repeat himself a lot, yes, but he puts genuine effort into what he does and is a homegrown operation. Clandestine is an armchair influencer, and though he may have helped with the awakening to some extent, he's always had a devious attitude about him, such subtle disinfo he projects. It's kinda easy to tell honestly if you've been in this game for over 20 years, reading the language and syntax of the way people communicate rather than get lulled into the predictive programming format, including this "shock jock" and "intellectual mystery thriller" style some use.

And must I say it, because I just did it; reddit spacing, lol.

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– DoEnigmasAge 2 points 246 days ago +2 / -0

What slave class? And what is unconstitutional?

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– Christine_grab 2 points 246 days ago +2 / -0

What he is saying is that instead of eliminating slavery, we've traded black slaves for migrants slaves. The democrats are trying to keep the migrants illegal so that they are easy exploited: lower wages, poor working conditions, easy victims of human trafficking, etc. That is why the democrats push bringing people here illegally instead of pushing to make it easier for migrants to come here legally.

I say all the time that I oppose open borders because I am a bleeding heart liberal. I do not want these migrants exploited by coyotes, shady employers, etc. I want them to have all the protections that Americans have, and they get that by being here legally.

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– DoEnigmasAge 1 point 246 days ago +1 / -0

That is why the democrats push bringing people here illegally

?

Agreed that illegal immigrants are exploited. A more open border, like we had for centuries, would allow someone to come here legally and work, returning when the work is done.

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– Christine_grab 1 point 245 days ago +1 / -0

We all know that coming to the US legally is unduly burdensome. The democrats solution is to ignore the system. Democrats want the borders to remain open so that people can come and go freely: along with human traffickers, drug smugglers, and other nefarious characters.

If the democrats actually cared about the well being of both migrants and constituents, they would make it easy to legally come and go.

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– 22LIBERTY22 2 points 246 days ago +2 / -0

No. That is not accurate. There were more slaves in the North. The North imported more slaves. The South were fighting Northern aggression and protecting States’Rights to be able to secede from the tyrants.

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– Ratrod63 2 points 246 days ago +2 / -0

The difference being, the democrats contribute nothing and the Confederation was the industry of the nation

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– AmateurExpert 1 point 246 days ago +1 / -0

One big difference:

The confederates were also trying to escape captivity themselves, but out of relative innocence.

The democrats are trying to escape captivity as well, but out of guilt and hatred of being held accountable.

Many actions taken by both sides in the CW were defensible from their position through natural, and righteous means prior to the whole war being made, after the fact, only about slavery.

The only real saving grace of modern democrats is how much they’ve allowed themselves to be subjected to propaganda.

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– Wizzywig 1 point 246 days ago +1 / -0

Victor Davis Hanson, of whom I was a fan before anybody else heard of him, is making the same observation regarding Antifa etc. attacks on federal agents and facilities. Those agents have civil rights too, and the local and state governments are backing those violating those agents civil rights. The secessionist south (backed entirely by England btw) sought to similarly nullify federal law. The preservation of “slavery” is the goal of these would be nullifiers. Keeping millions of people who are essentially indentured to the cartels in this country is tantamount to preserving slavery. I believe we’ll see ample evidence that China is pupeteering both this invasion and the resistance to deportations in partnership with Cuba, Venezuela, and our own domestic Communists. Trump is, as he did with fake news, and politicians, forcing them to expose themselves for who they are. It should be gallows time soon, but it won’t be. The exposure, and hopefully neutralization of the agenda is enough for Trump. As for “The South” I love it. Born in Mississippi, raised in Texas, and live in North Carolina. Never owned anybody.

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– MoneyGrip 1 point 246 days ago +1 / -0

These insurrections are only happening in cities. Do you know how easy it would be to embargo a city, nothing in nothing out. I mean look at Gaza.

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– bluewhiteandred 1 point 246 days ago +1 / -0

this has some "dEmS aRe ThE rEaL rAcIsTs" energy

in the current year our side no longer cares if we're "racist" or "confederates" because they've abused these terms into oblivion

to the other side, we are the confederates, even if you're arguing the opposite

but also Lincoln was the bad guy to a lot of us I thought (slavery was going away on its own without a war; a legal secession was violated; many Americans died needlessly)

(edit: also the secession could have probably been negotiated back to the previous / current Union without a civil war about it)

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