The Democrat caucus can lock votes. (In parliamentarian speak called "binding its members") If a member refuses to go along, he/she can lose committee assignments and anything else the caucus has a say in. Republican caucus can't do that. Not in their rules.
usually true, but remember they needed a few dims to vote to reopen the gov. during the shutdown and finally got them. (However, they are still very stoopid!)
I know. Generally speaking. There's always an exception. However it did take a month and over a dozen votes and God knows what behind the scenes to get the few rats to vote to reopen
Not only will the democrats strip their kind of power in the Congress, they will even throw them in jail for coloring outside the liberal lines. See Henry Cuellar and his wife.
60 votes needed, the New Year is bringing health insurance monthly premium “shock” to many. I imagine this won’t be great for health insurance stock prices either, as many would drop out and not have insurance.
If a large group ever started successfully shorting the insurance companies, a few of their buddies working someplace like Vanguard will use your own 401k to prop the stock back up and leave you poor for trying. It’s all a rigged game and a lot of executives and board members and investment bankers deserve to be investigated using tools that violate privacy laws that are normally reserved for terrorists.
The 1200 dollars a month I have to pay starting next month, for my wife, is hard to swallow. All our insurances have doubled in the last 5 years. It makes me sick to watch these millionaire representatives shit on the people of this country.
This whole thing is stupid. Take money from taxpayers then give it back? How about just a tax cut? Then we don’t have a giant beaurocratic corrupt middleman that steals and mismanages the money.
I'm with you. I'll even go so far as to say... Just let us keep our money. Stay out of it I'm 65 yrs old, I been fixed, my wife been fixed, why do we need t pay for pregnancy insurance. Why is that even a thing?
They have a week to sort this out before they go on vacation till January. If they don’t the Obamacare participants will see an increase of $1,000/month. Rand Paul voted AGAINST it!
It's still all a scam because all the solutions specifically apply to the traditionally "employed" and has no benefit for the small business owner, gig worker, working artist, independent contractor, stay at home parents of either gender, or the just plain unemployed.
Basing it all around tax cuts that only benefit the wage slave is still just a big a scam. These people are too cowardly and retarded to gut big pharma and the entire medical industry to make things right. And you know exactly why that is
The Rinos need to be honest with the people who voted for them. They are Democrats and should tell their state citizens who they are. Otherwise they're defrauding the electorate. I hope they choose Obamacare for themselves and not the Cadillac plan they have in the Senate. 2026 is a watershed year. We need at least 80 Republicans in the Senate. Then when the RINOS vote it won't destroy the real majority.
And just like that, their claim that this is about people just crumbles.
To much money to be made as a politician.. Always follow the money
It is amazing how the demonRats can vote together in lockstep on everything amd the piece of shit rino turds cant. What a fucking joke.
It's not Democrats versus Republicans. It's uniparty versus MAGA.
I understand that. But i just watch in amazement how every vote since Obama EVERY self-identifying demonRat votes together. Not one single defection.
Because they are all bought and sold. Just like the federal judges, C@A, FBI, police, governors, mayors, etc.
Our country has become an organized crime syndicate.
Slight correction; they're BLACKMAILED
The Democrat caucus can lock votes. (In parliamentarian speak called "binding its members") If a member refuses to go along, he/she can lose committee assignments and anything else the caucus has a say in. Republican caucus can't do that. Not in their rules.
Because they are being paid to, or blackmailed to do so, that is why they stick together. Many were placed in office by the DEEP STATE, not voted in.
usually true, but remember they needed a few dims to vote to reopen the gov. during the shutdown and finally got them. (However, they are still very stoopid!)
I know. Generally speaking. There's always an exception. However it did take a month and over a dozen votes and God knows what behind the scenes to get the few rats to vote to reopen
It’s right vs wrong.
When I scream UNI... You scream PARTY
That's why they're pieces of shit rino turds.
I call them sell out Rinos.
Not only will the democrats strip their kind of power in the Congress, they will even throw them in jail for coloring outside the liberal lines. See Henry Cuellar and his wife.
No, because the Rinos vote with the Dems. Ther were always Democrats, who ran as Republicans.
Thats what makes them rinos
We're finding out who is owned by pharma, insurance companies and massive healthcare conglomerates
The residents of the states represented by these senators voting against need to file a class action suit for lack of representation
And republicans will blame everyone else for their fuckups & wonder why they are despised as much as democrats
60 votes needed, the New Year is bringing health insurance monthly premium “shock” to many. I imagine this won’t be great for health insurance stock prices either, as many would drop out and not have insurance.
I will be the first. Make sure you short sell them also.
understood! there’s one technical trader I like and I can look into it
Please do.
You can’t play that game with them.
If a large group ever started successfully shorting the insurance companies, a few of their buddies working someplace like Vanguard will use your own 401k to prop the stock back up and leave you poor for trying. It’s all a rigged game and a lot of executives and board members and investment bankers deserve to be investigated using tools that violate privacy laws that are normally reserved for terrorists.
The 1200 dollars a month I have to pay starting next month, for my wife, is hard to swallow. All our insurances have doubled in the last 5 years. It makes me sick to watch these millionaire representatives shit on the people of this country.
This whole thing is stupid. Take money from taxpayers then give it back? How about just a tax cut? Then we don’t have a giant beaurocratic corrupt middleman that steals and mismanages the money.
I'm with you. I'll even go so far as to say... Just let us keep our money. Stay out of it I'm 65 yrs old, I been fixed, my wife been fixed, why do we need t pay for pregnancy insurance. Why is that even a thing?
Details— https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/12/11/congress/senate-rejects-health-care-bills-00686855
They have a week to sort this out before they go on vacation till January. If they don’t the Obamacare participants will see an increase of $1,000/month. Rand Paul voted AGAINST it!
Holy fuck the swamp is fighting back. We are on a losing streak the past week. Miami…Indiana….garcia to Africa and now this. Shiiiiiiiieeeeeete!
Of course they don’t, they want people’s premiums to explode and then blame it on trump.
The Insurance lobby is one of the largest in DC. THAT is who these people represent! If we get a chance with a fair vote, VOTE THEM ALL OUT!
Good luck wid dat! Their money is already at work in your precinct, my precinct, and every body on this boards precinct
One can dream can't he? Kek
It's still all a scam because all the solutions specifically apply to the traditionally "employed" and has no benefit for the small business owner, gig worker, working artist, independent contractor, stay at home parents of either gender, or the just plain unemployed.
Basing it all around tax cuts that only benefit the wage slave is still just a big a scam. These people are too cowardly and retarded to gut big pharma and the entire medical industry to make things right. And you know exactly why that is
RINOS SUCK
They get kickbacks from Obamacare
One thing that makes a good movie is staying at the edge of your seat until the happy end.
The Rinos need to be honest with the people who voted for them. They are Democrats and should tell their state citizens who they are. Otherwise they're defrauding the electorate. I hope they choose Obamacare for themselves and not the Cadillac plan they have in the Senate. 2026 is a watershed year. We need at least 80 Republicans in the Senate. Then when the RINOS vote it won't destroy the real majority.
Boooo, so now what? Does it go back to the house for adjustment? Or can the president intervene and ram it through?
What scumbags
I hope they all burn in hell.. no more mercy
Red, Green, Blue pictured (RGB)
Oh well. Maybe next election.
There are consequences for arrests not happening.
Keep putting the bill back out there.
This gives time to make it better. Dems planning another shutdown I'm sure