You fail to consider that in hindsight we can judge as we see fit. But the fact remains. They acted as they did precisely because they were following order. Regardless of our judgement and even their own. They did not stop their actions. They just did as they were told. Not a single thought of possible consequences for their actions actually prevented them from following orders. Some may even have felt disgusted with themselves. As they were shoving Jews into the oven non the less. And those who refused were likely shot on the spot and forgotten by history.
But I suspect most did it in a manner no different than how they act when told to put a bunch of boxes into storage. That's how most soldiers act worldwide, and historically as well. Just, plain, callous disregard.
It really is a matter of: "Should had, could had. Didn't". And the "Didn't" part is what I am talking about.
My friend. You seem to be a thinker. As such, you have thinker bias. You believe most people to be like you. (After all, you can clearly think. It can't possibly be that hard for others to do the same.)
Unfortunately, studies (here in the USA) have already demonstrated that most people will blindly follow perceived authority. And when it comes to actual authority, it is even worse still.
(Hell, you live thru COVID. If you were not appalled at how society was acting around you, then I don't know what to tell you.)
I believe you and I are talking about two fundamentally distinct matters. You are explaining the fact that "some" individuals can in fact resist programing. They remain able to act according to their own moral framework regardless of what the authorities tell them to do. This is a fact the very social engineering experiments I am basing my argument on have already demonstrated.
What I am bringing to attention is the larger result of the same experiments. Which is the fact that most people are barely sapient drones who will thoughtlessly follow the directions of the perceived authorities. And it is much worse for soldiers since the authority at play is very much real. And are actually indoctrinated to be obedient under the guise of "discipline".
It is all semantics. "Disciplined" sounds better than "subservient" But their differences are immaterial. One acts like a tough guy while the other acts like a worm. But, in the end; both are obedient and will do as you tell them too. The only actual difference is the tone at which they serve the authority at.
This is actually working as intended. Since the tough guy feels proud of himself, you can ask more of him. And he will serve you all too well. Proudly even. He is a bit of a fool. A tool, if you will.
(Note that I am not trying trying to play down the sacrifices the soldiers have done for their people. The sacrifice is all too real and praise worthy. But more than one thing can be true at the same time.)
I am aware I sound Machiavellian. But this is just the observable truth. And if you are honest with yourself and put your feelings asides, you will be able to see it as clear as daylight.
That is how Nazi Germany, The Soviet Union, and just about every single genocidal madness has taken place in human history. God knows human history is absolutely plagued by this very problem.
You should look up "The chain of obedience" it explains my point far better than me. I also recommend you read a few studies about authority and its psychology. As the large majority are bound by it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NcLNoxiPBk
A trained soldier can indeed think (if he is was a thinker to begin with, and has been able to resist his training adequately). But historically and psychologically, the main purpose of drilling is to make sure soldiers follow order without thinking about it. That is why so many drill are still "meaningless" trash like formation and marching. And the emphasis on "discipline" is actually all for the purpose of making you thought free when following orders. (I, greatly enjoy the cynicism of Hell Divers. It is so on the nose)
Many psychological tools have been mastered for this sake. One of the most common in the USA army is the notion of we being "the good guys".
That is why the phenomenon of intrepid and ingenious individuals who accomplished great things in battle are often shun by superiors and quickly gotten rid of in times of peace because their trait of been thinkers puts them at odds with the nature of armed forces. (unless they manage to cunningly make their way up the ranks)
Sure, the USA is far better than other nations and potential hegemons. But we are not "the good guys". The fact that in this very thread it was outlined that USA allied itself with child rapists to fight our enemy child rapists demonstrates the fact that the USA does not care about morals. The USA cares about national interest (as it is necessary to actually run a successful nation)
Just stop and think about it. How many people took the Jab? The soldiers are people, just like everyone else.
Please. Do not be so naive. How many people got dismissed because of the Jab? Or merely forced into it and be done with it. To just pick a random event off my head. In fact, you generally do not have bodily autonomy. When Uncle Sam wants to inject you with something, they just tell you to go to the infirmary and get it done. You have no say on the matter.
You list the exceptions, not the rule. Read the contract. specially when it comes to friendly fire how you are treated as property.
Do you know why you drill in the army? Because you are to be obedient and disciplined. Do as your are told. Do not think. You are literally trained to hear an order and execute it. No thought should ever get in they way of your obedience. And it is ingrained into your brain thru literally a method of brain washing.
Just look at the world right now. How the state dogs oppress their own people without a second thought.
"I was following orders" is the single largest reason why soldiers do evil free of all thoughts regarding their actions. In fact the large majority of humans behave just like that.
Because they cannot help themselves but to follow the "perceived authority". And the army is that x100 because the authority is rank based, extremely clear and to defy it brings VERY bad consequences.
I am sorry, but kind of idiocy is that? "The good guys"? When you are a soldier, you are not a person, you are property. A slave of the state. And the state is nothing but a necessary evil. (Try and do as you like and see how it goes. Refuse to cooperate with those rapists and see how your own "leadership" (the foremen) will treat you.)
I am tired of reading these childish notions
Sure, this post is about Islam evils. Nothing new there either.
No no. Somalia is one of those places in the world where even money cannot get you things that we consider basic comforts. Because money cannot buy what is not available.
Even the warlords life's are only better than the rest of the populous comparatively. They are worse off than hood rats in the USA.
The left is well documented to continue to push and push and push the boundaries until they are openly murdering you.
Just like it was done during every single leftist revolution all throughout the last century.
First, they claim "stop oppressing me"
Then, They start to demonize you.
Then, violence is ok against you.
Then, murder against you is socially acceptable. <--- You are getting here.
Then, the "revolutionary" violence against you openly starts and it continues until they seize power. (or they are exterminated)
Finally, they use institutional power to openly prosecute you, murder you and enslave you.
This has being repeated in every leftist revolution in history. I am not merely "claiming" this. This, is the literal development pattern of leftist revolution.
Who was expecting anything else here?
Why would the CIA maintain evidence they had JFK killed in conjunction with the mafia and used Oswell as the scape goat? (obvious motivations for both sides)
There was a second shooter. With simple video and forensic analysis it is obvious the bullet that killed JFK did not come from the direction Oswell was at.
I disagreed. Considering the risks involved and the amount of safety regulations that goes into it, and the frankly EXTREMELY large amount of flights that take place world wide, Aviation is incredibly safe.
And while yes, not everything is a conspiracy. The fact that aviation accidents are so rare and shady circumstances (collision with a military helicopter) and the large amount of mistakes that would had lead to this situation, It starts to look like fractal wrongness, therefore a conspiracy is more likely.
This whole thing really pains me. Specially after having actually read the memorandum when the powers that be literally proclaim the climate scare to be the next tool of control from back in the 90s.