I do not see it as double standards or hypocrisy to turn in to one's employer that they have a potential terrorist working for them. People who celebrate death are satanic and should be eliminated or at the very least held accountable for their actions. Many of these people work in critical fields like nursing, the fire department, etc. and we have seen times when services are withheld because of someone's belief. We are required to shut this shit down and I have no problem doing so. I have no problem forgiving but they don't deserve the positions they hold with such volatile opinions and hate.
Yeah, I don't want to work under someone who celebrates school shootings, as if that's something justifiable.
When i worked for big tech I scrubbed all my social media accounts because I was at risk of being fired, ostracized, etc... for my right wing views.
Later working at another big tech company during covid I lost my highest paying job of all time simply because democrats demanded i lose my job because I didn't take the expiramental gene editing covid jab.
I had to worry about my job for just existing. They are losing their jobs for protectively going out celebrating murder, terrorism, and school shootings. That's just called consequences of their own actions. Also know as accountability.
I am losing no sleep over these people losing their jobs.
Additionally no where in the Bible does it say to tolerate evil.
I think that those trying to pump the brakes are those who have been lucky to not have been already doxxed. Once it happens you're unlikely to have any sympathy remaining for libshits or compunctions against using their weapons against them. We get what we tolerate.
You're worried about satanic things yet your approach to the situation is not biblical at all. If you are a Christian, I hope you will begin to understand what I mean. From my perspective, you are trying to justify people being punished (lose their jobs) for having opinions or saying things you don't like (celebrating death) based on the context you gave it (satanic).
You giving it the satanic element here gives it biblical premise. The New Testament has multiple things that suggest we respond to this situation in a manner that is the opposite of what you're suggesting. Are you a Christian or do you just believe in Satan as an evil entity?
You say we take care of it because it is satanic. I say we should be praying for these people and hoping they find Jesus. If they don't God will take care or it.
We cannot both be right here if we are both Christians.
Yes I am Christian and yes I pray for these people, and I feel very strongly that they need to suffer the consequences of celebrating death as that is clearly satanic to me as it comes directly from satan. I totally disagree with you that the Bible tells us differently as I do believe we must fight evil wherever we see it.
You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. John 8:44
Reject every kind of evil. Thessalonians 5:22
Murdering is the way of the devil and celebrating it is evil. Why would anyone good want to employ open sadists and evil-sympathizers? Where does it say in the good book that we must tolerate such people? Pray for your enemies, sure, but to put up with them? To allow them to be your children's teachers, doctors, pilots, etc.?
What fellowship has light with darkness? 2 Corinthians 6:14
And "turn the other cheek" was not meant to mean "be a pussy and just take it". Too many calling themselves Christians do not understand the historical context.
Is it better if people who celebrate and advocate death, theft, murder, slander, intolerance, false witness, tyranny, envy, resentment, grievances, and other anti-biblical values …
… have more money, or less money?
If you wish to skirt the question, as the problem does not necessitate the solution, and given that they are a-ok with blowing out the jugular of anyone who dares to have an open dialogue, what is an alternative method of dealing with this?
They are stating that your speech equates to violence with regard to self-justification of their actions, while enforcing that actual violence on your part (justifiably) equates to actual violence through courts.
My next best guesses are beating them in law (irrelevant in this situation) and very literally exorcisms and casting out demons. To date, I have not successfully cast out a single one that I’m aware of, nor have I known but perhaps one person who has done so.
I don’t have a better guess, do you? I’d love to have one. Yet they have crossed a BIG red line.
Obviously there needs to be an exit situation, as this is no way to live in a society, but let’s be very clear, we did not start this.
Deuteronomy 16:20 - Pursue justice, and justice alone, so that you may live and possess the land the LORD your God is giving you.
Isaiah 1:17 - Learn to do right; seek justice and correct the oppressor. Defend the fatherless and plead the case of the widow.
Exodus 23:6-7 - You shall not deny justice to the poor in their lawsuits. Keep far from a false charge, and do not kill the innocent and the righteous, for I will not acquit the guilty.
Proverbs 29:4 - By justice a king gives stability to the land, but a man who exacts tribute demolishes it.
Psalm 82:3-4 - Defend the weak and the fatherless; uphold the cause of the poor and the oppressed. Rescue the weak and the needy; deliver them from the hand of the wicked.
Proverbs 21:15 - When justice is done, it brings joy to the righteous but terror to evildoers.
Amos 5:24 - But let justice roll on like a river, righteousness like a never-failing stream
Leviticus 19:15 - Do not pervert justice; do not show partiality to the poor or favoritism to the great, but judge your neighbor fairly.
Jeremiah 22:3 - This is what the Lord says: Do what is just and right. Rescue from the hand of the oppressor the one who has been robbed. Do no wrong or violence to the foreigner, the fatherless or the widow, and do not shed innocent blood in this place.
Psalm 37:28 - For the Lord loves the just and will not forsake his faithful ones. Wrongdoers will be completely destroyed; the offspring of the wicked will perish.
Zechariah 7:9 - This is what the Lord Almighty said: ‘Administer true justice; show mercy and compassion to one another.'
Is there a conflict among those verses, or any other verses, with the promotion of this idea?
“We cannot both be right here if we are both Christians.” what a silly thing to say. Christians can disagree, especially when it comes to interpreting scripture and more importantly, based on our own personal relationship with God.
My point is, it's the cabal, the puppet masters that wants us divided. But for now, I know this is part of the plan and it will serve as part of a big wake up call as we go forward.
Things will likely get a lot more messy. Looks like the modern battlefield is not for you. People sat it out 250 years,and a lot of them will sit this one out....
That's a good point you bring up. Less than 20% of the population participated in the Revolutionary War. The other 80%, whatever their personal reasons were... were non participants.
I'm sure the Q team knew this,when they were building their army
Absolutely. For here we are as pond dwellers. When thinking of percentages it only takes singular digits of us collectively. Thusly, digital soldiers have shaped the battlefield and narrative as the movie reel spins and continues to do so. o7
I'm reminded of the sniper scene in band of brothers,when they needed some killing done,they called up shifty. I'm sure he was a good shot,but their must have been many others....
There was a time, not long ago, when people understood that speaking ill of the dead was not something that was done. The reason we are at this point is because people haven’t called out those who cheer when others suffer. I agree with damessinger, Teachers that are openly cheering the death of anyone shouldn’t be a role model for kids.
And from what I've seen the left is crying because the right is showing them not only can we use their weapons against them but we're even better at using them. These morons got a stark reminder that we're not the dumb hillbillies we're portrayed to them as, after all many of the people who built the Internet and such were right-wingers or moderates.
Jesus did get angry at times and lash out at evil, he wasn't all sunshine and rainbows. We've had to deal with marxist oppression for 15 years and now they've openly declared hostile intent. They deserve some hard lessons, it's the only way they'll learn.
The Bible also doesn't say anywhere to tolerate evil.
In OPs example, it's just simply consequences of their own actions... celebrating murder, terrorism and school shooting. Also known as accountability. For some reason OP thinks democrats should be exempt from this. This rhetoric also leads to further dehumanization of the right, making things like this far more likely to happen in the future.
These anti American values do not belong in America or it's work places.
There's actually a story in the Bible about tolerance. The book of Samuel I believe. A priest tolerated sin an evil in his synagogue. The message to him from God was that neither he nor his sons or anyone of his lineage will ever enter heaven because of his tolerance of sin.
The Bible also tells you that every one including your slaves should live under the law. Meaning God's law. We are a Christian nation.
The Bible also tells us to admonish the unruly amongst us.
This is Just Revenge and Karma Due for what the left has been doing to us, which has been infinitely worse than "getting canceled". These sickos have LITERALLY BEEN MURDERING PEOPLE. I will NOT accept that we shouldn't cancel them because it's "wrong".
Jesus ALSO PHYSICALLY BEAT AND REMOVED the bankers from the temple with a WHIP when it came time. So dodge me with your holier than thou rhetoric of "but mah turn the other cheek".
We don't need to get violent, but we are ENTIRELY JUSTIFIED in RUINING these sick fucks lives like THEY HAVE BEEN DOING TO US, and WORSE, for DECADES! Kick rocks with your bleeding heart bullshat.
And another thing, we got canceled and lost careers and families over "I don't think that vaccine is safe" or "I said a bad word years ago", they're getting canceled over "Glad he's dead Kill more Christians". We are not the same. You are a joke. Who are the shills upvoting this dork?
Memorize them. Many of us keep recollective logs of such comment/posting patterns here. When you've been an anon since b4 the beginning, it's hard not to take note of... but all of those awake to the fuckery should be aware of the same.
Ive never been about cancel culture nor will Ive also never doxxed anyone not even Phillies Karen.But I'm also not about to give money to those who hate me, that's just stupid. Actions have consequences. I don't watch woke movies or television I don't knowingly give my hard earned money to woke companies.
Are we supposed to be door mats bending over and just say please sir may I have another?
If we are to win this war we must be on a war-footing. One is not unhinged to be on a war-footing, nor is one defending his position fighting fire with fire being a hypocrite. You are not yet on a war footing and you are not destined to win if you are so so overly self-conscious you become frozen on the battle field and fail to engage the enemy because you're worried about hurting their "feeewings"
Grow up and spend more time in boot camp developing an effective warrior's mindset before you ever think of getting near the trenches. In the meantime, just don a apron in the mess hall and make sure the coffee is poured before it gets cold.
If they have no consequences for the abhorrent but legal speech, guess what eventually comes, murder. These people have done and said whatever they like for 10 f'n years. It's high time to fight back and I could give a shit what anyone thinks about my opinion. We almost lost our President too. So we are unhinged because we want people held accountable for their actions? Many of these demons are PUBLIC employees and by gosh, I refuse to FUND their hate any longer with my TAXES. Let them try the private sector. We are limited on how we can fight, this is peaceful resistance. Imo, we are flipping the tables.
Oh my gosh my dear sweet friend you said what I thought so much clearer than what I had been able to so I deleted my comment I just want to add to yours. The price is higher than just them losing their jobs and being held accountable in the end it will be there very Souls that they lose and we will be accountable for it if we do nothing and we stand by and let them get away with everything. I'm in complete agreement with you angel I really thank you for posting this.
Angel you are spot on! This is what I was thinking as well. These people have never been held accountable for any of their hate speech, riots & doxing. If they are never held accountable for their actions, how will they ever learn a lesson on how to treat others?
Yeah someone was saying this rhetoric that we're "going too far" in a livestream last night and when someone in chat asked "would you still have this attitude if the Butler shooter had succeeded" she had no answer and rapidly wrapped up the stream.
Before his arrest, Jesus instructed his disciples to buy swords, stating, "the one who has no sword should sell his cloak and buy one" (Luke 22:36). FYI do not forget God has shown vengeance on mankind before. He wiped the out world with water even turned a city into a salt lick. Jesus said turn the other cheek not let your cheek become bloody and busied.
Just a reminder that in the days that was said, anyone doing this would be stoned in the street.
Dancing on the grave of someone who died from natural causes, like rush, while morbid and vulgar is just poor taste. Dancing on the grave of an assassinated political opponent while people are making lists including Charlie's wife of who to kill next is tacit approval of the violence and id argue an accessory to it. Do you think it's safe for normal people to have to place trust in people who have openly sided with abject terrorism? Its insane that you twist the principle and command to forgive into blanket amnesty for the left. You can forgive someone you still hold accountable.
Dude, what is wrong with you? We are using their own strategy against them. If anyone lets the division take over their soul to THAT extreme you are implying, then they weren’t able to roll with Trump/Q operation to begin with.
“You don’t have the balls, son.”
YT comment I saw: “If you think people should be shot for their opinions, don't cry over getting fired for yours.“
When I am Weaker Than You, I ask you for Freedom because that is according to your principles; when I am Stronger than you, I take away your Freedom Because that is according to my principles.
It’s long past time they get treated according to their own principles. You argue hypocrisy which to be fair is valid. But we played by our rules for decades, extended hands in friendship, and got spat on, abused, and fired from our jobs by the gremlins crying now about the 1st amendment, freedom of speech and the constitution. Hell Charlie died playing by our rules.
I’m long past the point of caring. They’ll go right back to doing the same God Damn thing. They don’t care. They don’t care about the Constitution, They don’t care about the 1st Amendment. They never cared about the lives they ruined before. They’re only crying now because they’re on the backfoot and getting a taste of their own medicine.
Compared to what a response could have been. This is actually fairly tame and measured.
I get the empathy and desire to stand by your Free Speech principles. But that won’t stop them from strangling you with them the second they get the chance. They don’t view you as a fellow human and American Citizen worthy of the same protections you want to extend to them.
If we want a world where the principles outlined in the Constitution actually matter. Then it’s time to deal with this problem now. Using the non-lethal means at our disposal while they are still at our disposal. Maybe having to find a new Job will be beneficial in restoring some of their humanity. We are rapidly running out of solutions that don’t involve people reverting to the 2nd.
I dont see it as vindictive hypocrisy as you paint it. It's simple cause & effect.
All people should be aware of their own actions and any potential outcome from them. Mr Kirk was aware of this and bravely kept speaking for what he believed in. If these fired folks cant deal with the consequences of their own actions, then in theory they cant deal with what other individuals do either. So they have no responsibility and only narcissistic views and response to anything and everything effecting their lives.
I say fuck them and let them deal with the fallout of their own destruction. The only person ultimately responsible for anyone is themselves, and their own actions are entirely on them.
Very important point here. The employers are the ones doing the firing. If I see something someone posted on the internet and share that with their employer, I'm not doing that individual any harm. They're the ones putting it out to the public in the first place. At that point, it's totally up to the employer to take action or not. If I were to threaten that employer with a boycott or some other action, I'd be over the line. I certainly wouldn't be acting like Jesus at that point. But to share it with an employer, say something like "I thought you should be aware of this" and leave it at that, no foul as far as I'm concerned. I do see people on the right gloating over the fact that some are losing their jobs. There's no need for that. Personally, I haven't passed along anything to anyone (just using myself as an example here) but I support the ones who are. Just keep it civil and leave it in the hands of the employer.
Double standard? What the hell are you even talking about? We're not trying to take any rights away from them. I want them to speak freely. I want to know who the murderers next door are. They can say anything they want, but it's about time there was consequences for their hatred. I hope that every employer learns to check these people and I hope we have enough documented that they can never find a job again.And maybe they'll finally leave our country and go to some shithole communist country where they can learn some gratitude.
We are finished turning the other cheek that doesn’t mean we’re gonna get violent. It means we’re gonna start calling the left us out on their bullshit. Conservatives aren’t violent leftists are because they’re mentally ill.
I am no fan of cancel culture, but I draw the line with the First Amendment.
The difference between "the left calling for firings" and "the right calling for firings" is that when the left does it, it's generally because their target says something that they don't like, but that is ultimately protected under free speech.
When the Right does it, as we are seeing now, it's because the left is calling for more violence, is celebrating death and pain. There is a massive difference in these two paths.
It's one thing to have empathy and forgiveness, but do not sacrifice your home and values for suicidal empathy.
Proverbs 17:15: “He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the Lord.”
Treating those who celebrate murder as if they are beyond accountability falls into justifying the wicked, yourself.
Proverbs 24:24-25 — “He that saith unto the wicked, Thou art righteous; him shall the people curse, nations shall abhor him: But to them that rebuke him shall be delight, and a good blessing shall come upon them.”
We are commanded to rebuke the wicked, not to be silent when we see it.
Romans 13:3-4 — “For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil… he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.”
Forgiveness does not negate civil accountability.
Isaiah 5:20 — “Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness.”
Luke 17:3 — “Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.”
We are not bound to forgive those who celebrate murder. We are called to rebuke first, then forgive when repentance is given honestly. Forgiveness must follow repentance; it's not an unconditional indulgence.
Matthew 18:6 — “But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.”
Jesus himself taught the seriousness of leading others into sin or celebrating harm.
Do not cite forgiveness as a biblical requirement, without first understanding what the bible itself teaches us first. Christians, or any who believe in the Bible, are not required to forgive transgression until we have been destroyed for our unconditional forgiveness. There is a line in the sand that they have crossed. They must face the consequences of their actions and offer repentance before they can be forgiven.
Forgiveness is not erasing consequences. It is not silence in the face of wickedness. Scripture teaches us to rebuke evil, hold it accountable, and forgive when repentance is real. Anything else isn’t biblical grace, it’s enabling evil.
The left, for over a decade now, has cancelled people for simply disagreeing with them on almost anything. just that alone. people are afraid to even admit to being conservative lest they be fired.
But cheering, encouraging political violence, all the dehumanization, must come to an end and can be tolerated no longer. The left has become so comfortable demonizing the right and calling for violence against them, labeling them on par with nazis, school teachers show 10 yr olds the closeup kill shot video on repeat with glee, and Left socials put out hit requests on other conservative figures they dislike.
The rhetoric from the left is this violence is good and more should happen. They deserve to be fired for encouraging political violence as they are incapable of performing their duties in a way that is safe for everyone they serve which includes conservatives. inciting political violence is not free speech.
How is it hypocrisy when [they] do everything in [their] power to silence us? There is clearly nothing these unhinged people won't do. They were cheering and dancing when good people were being fired over mask and vaccine mandates. They cheered and danced when Abbey Gate, Benghazi, and all the other suicide bombings happened. They cheered and danced when our private citizens were kidnapped and beheaded by Islamic savages. They cheer and dance over the murder of our politicians and LEOs. They prey on our children. They demand our silence and compliance when it comes to their insane policies. They lie straight to our faces about what they do with taxpayer money.
I'm not apologetic for my view as it relates to the need to sometimes meet violence with violence. Jesus was the ABSOLUTE BEST of us, perfect in His creation and actions. I, however, am not a perfect person. There are some things I cannot and refuse to forgive. The purposeful targeting of innocent people is one of those crimes I simply cannot forgive.
I'm not condoning violence on this platform...yet. But at some point, if things continue down the current path we're on, if our society gets worse, that will change. And if anyone here has a problem with that, so be it. I WILL NOT apologize for that. Sometimes, people need to be removed from our society. And sometimes, that means permanently removing them from this planet.
If these asshats want to escalate things further, there will be nothing we can do to stop it short of meeting their violence with violence of our own choosing. One thing people around here forget about, is that the enemy gets a vote too. And if they continue to vote for violent action, meeting that with non-violent means is dangerous and foolish. I for one refuse to be a victim in that scenario. And I don't expect anyone else to end up a victim, too.
We are in a culture war. The entirety of the left needs to be removed, and ostracized from society at any cost. Failure to do so results in allowing the left to perpetuate their violence.
History proves time and again that the left will never stop leveraging violence to try to attain political power. Leftists must always resort to violence because the entire leftist platform (agenda) is a demonstrable failure of logic and reason. That's why they hated Charlie Kirk so much. Nobody with a brain wants the bullshit leftists are selling.
Fire them; do not hire them; do not house them; do not rent to them; do not buy from them; do not sell to them; do not help them in any endeavors; do not vote for them; do not even invite them to hang out with you; do not do anything that helps the cause of leftists, because ultimately you are helping leftists promote organized violence- always, always, always, without exception.
The entirety of leftist culture needs to be removed from American society. They are irredeemable. The leftist democrat party needed to be outlawed in 1861 when they started the first civil war, and that vile party still needs to be outlawed today. We didn't hang nearly enough slave owning democrats back in the 1860's. The least we can do today is to ostracize them from our society, lest history repeat with the left causing a second civil war in America.
The right has the moral high ground. We had better use it.
Its not hypocrisy. Its acknowledging they refuse to play fair, they refuse to be civil, they'd rather kill us than talk, AND they're HAPPY to see an opponent murdered. If they acknowledge their wickness and sincerely apologize, I can forgive them. Will I? Don't know. But I could. And, we BOTH know they won't. The kind of person who allows politics to turn them into a person who mocks the dead is usually too far gone to reflect on how evil they've become.
Its not a double standard, its following THEIR standard. The double standard was having one for us when shit happens to us, and another for them when shit happens to them. WE would hold vigils, peacefully protest, and turn the other cheek when they jeered and threatened us, and WE would face arrest/prison time. THEY would riot in the streets, murder more people, mob people in their cars, block streets and highways, and NEVER FACE ANY CONSEQUENCES. Holding them to their OWN standard is the LEAST we could be doing to give them some long overdue accountability.
Additionally, people like this feel EMBOLDENED to be the way they are because we've been civil about their wickedness for so long that they don't think we'll EVER do anythinga bout it.
When you reward bad behavior you get more of it. When you punish bad behavior you get less of it.
Exactly all that it takes for evil to prosper is fir good men to do nothing. Well in addition to doing nothing we've said nothing for so long because they tried to and succeeded in shaming us for too long.
Honestly, it's not anywhere close to the response that's deserved to them. Doxxing them, etc. is the polite way of letting them know their actions won't be tolerated anymore. I have to be careful because mods get bent up but some of us would support a hotter solution...
We can forgive and still hold accountable. If someone is celebrating a murder openly then they shouldn't have a place teaching children. Period.
Sooner for later these people were going to have to be removed from their little islands of power. Cancel Culture coming home to roost is just fine with me.
The left is well documented to continue to push and push and push the boundaries until they are openly murdering you.
Just like it was done during every single leftist revolution all throughout the last century.
First, they claim "stop oppressing me"
Then, They start to demonize you.
Then, violence is ok against you.
Then, murder against you is socially acceptable. <--- You are getting here.
Then, the "revolutionary" violence against you openly starts and it continues until they seize power. (or they are exterminated)
Finally, they use institutional power to openly prosecute you, murder you and enslave you.
This has being repeated in every leftist revolution in history. I am not merely "claiming" this. This, is the literal development pattern of leftist revolution.
They already murder the unborn in the guise of women's rights, and in Canada one in 20 people are being Euthanized because it would cost more to treat them than kill them..
All in the left wing. These people are deceived its a spiritual battle I've been a spiritual warrior intercessor for most of my life .
The behavior we are seeing from the left is evil. We are not required to forgive evil we are compelled to fight against it. What is happening in this country is so demonic it should be confronted. More of these animals should be doxxed. More of them should be fired and more of them should be confronted. Enough is enough.
I do not see it as double standards or hypocrisy to turn in to one's employer that they have a potential terrorist working for them. People who celebrate death are satanic and should be eliminated or at the very least held accountable for their actions. Many of these people work in critical fields like nursing, the fire department, etc. and we have seen times when services are withheld because of someone's belief. We are required to shut this shit down and I have no problem doing so. I have no problem forgiving but they don't deserve the positions they hold with such volatile opinions and hate.
Yeah, I don't want to work under someone who celebrates school shootings, as if that's something justifiable.
When i worked for big tech I scrubbed all my social media accounts because I was at risk of being fired, ostracized, etc... for my right wing views.
Later working at another big tech company during covid I lost my highest paying job of all time simply because democrats demanded i lose my job because I didn't take the expiramental gene editing covid jab.
I had to worry about my job for just existing. They are losing their jobs for protectively going out celebrating murder, terrorism, and school shootings. That's just called consequences of their own actions. Also know as accountability.
I am losing no sleep over these people losing their jobs.
Additionally no where in the Bible does it say to tolerate evil.
Entirely agree with you u/damessinger/
And lets not forget that a lot of these same people got some of us fired a mere 5 years ago for not taking the jab.
I think that those trying to pump the brakes are those who have been lucky to not have been already doxxed. Once it happens you're unlikely to have any sympathy remaining for libshits or compunctions against using their weapons against them. We get what we tolerate.
You're worried about satanic things yet your approach to the situation is not biblical at all. If you are a Christian, I hope you will begin to understand what I mean. From my perspective, you are trying to justify people being punished (lose their jobs) for having opinions or saying things you don't like (celebrating death) based on the context you gave it (satanic).
You giving it the satanic element here gives it biblical premise. The New Testament has multiple things that suggest we respond to this situation in a manner that is the opposite of what you're suggesting. Are you a Christian or do you just believe in Satan as an evil entity?
You say we take care of it because it is satanic. I say we should be praying for these people and hoping they find Jesus. If they don't God will take care or it.
We cannot both be right here if we are both Christians.
Yes I am Christian and yes I pray for these people, and I feel very strongly that they need to suffer the consequences of celebrating death as that is clearly satanic to me as it comes directly from satan. I totally disagree with you that the Bible tells us differently as I do believe we must fight evil wherever we see it.
Murdering is the way of the devil and celebrating it is evil. Why would anyone good want to employ open sadists and evil-sympathizers? Where does it say in the good book that we must tolerate such people? Pray for your enemies, sure, but to put up with them? To allow them to be your children's teachers, doctors, pilots, etc.?
“I came to set the world on fire, and oh how I wish it were already burning!”
He never said we should be door mats nor promised us safety. He said to speak truth to the point of losing your own life.
And "turn the other cheek" was not meant to mean "be a pussy and just take it". Too many calling themselves Christians do not understand the historical context.
Here’s a simple question:
Is it better if people who celebrate and advocate death, theft, murder, slander, intolerance, false witness, tyranny, envy, resentment, grievances, and other anti-biblical values …
… have more money, or less money?
If you wish to skirt the question, as the problem does not necessitate the solution, and given that they are a-ok with blowing out the jugular of anyone who dares to have an open dialogue, what is an alternative method of dealing with this?
They are stating that your speech equates to violence with regard to self-justification of their actions, while enforcing that actual violence on your part (justifiably) equates to actual violence through courts.
https://greatawakening.win/p/1AR0LV6bCM/x/c/4eWbmfNDWkh
My next best guesses are beating them in law (irrelevant in this situation) and very literally exorcisms and casting out demons. To date, I have not successfully cast out a single one that I’m aware of, nor have I known but perhaps one person who has done so.
I don’t have a better guess, do you? I’d love to have one. Yet they have crossed a BIG red line.
Obviously there needs to be an exit situation, as this is no way to live in a society, but let’s be very clear, we did not start this.
Deuteronomy 16:20 - Pursue justice, and justice alone, so that you may live and possess the land the LORD your God is giving you.
Isaiah 1:17 - Learn to do right; seek justice and correct the oppressor. Defend the fatherless and plead the case of the widow.
Exodus 23:6-7 - You shall not deny justice to the poor in their lawsuits. Keep far from a false charge, and do not kill the innocent and the righteous, for I will not acquit the guilty.
Proverbs 29:4 - By justice a king gives stability to the land, but a man who exacts tribute demolishes it.
Psalm 82:3-4 - Defend the weak and the fatherless; uphold the cause of the poor and the oppressed. Rescue the weak and the needy; deliver them from the hand of the wicked.
Proverbs 21:15 - When justice is done, it brings joy to the righteous but terror to evildoers.
Amos 5:24 - But let justice roll on like a river, righteousness like a never-failing stream
Leviticus 19:15 - Do not pervert justice; do not show partiality to the poor or favoritism to the great, but judge your neighbor fairly.
Jeremiah 22:3 - This is what the Lord says: Do what is just and right. Rescue from the hand of the oppressor the one who has been robbed. Do no wrong or violence to the foreigner, the fatherless or the widow, and do not shed innocent blood in this place.
Psalm 37:28 - For the Lord loves the just and will not forsake his faithful ones. Wrongdoers will be completely destroyed; the offspring of the wicked will perish.
Zechariah 7:9 - This is what the Lord Almighty said: ‘Administer true justice; show mercy and compassion to one another.'
Is there a conflict among those verses, or any other verses, with the promotion of this idea?
u/queue-anon u/ink10 u/pbman2 u/strelnieks
We are called to speak out against evil and fight for the Truth.
Some people getting fired might be good for them. They can reflect on their words and become better people.
“We cannot both be right here if we are both Christians.” what a silly thing to say. Christians can disagree, especially when it comes to interpreting scripture and more importantly, based on our own personal relationship with God.
Do you know what the patriots and loyalists did to each other,250 years ago?
It was more than some fuktards losing a job.
I'm 100% behind getting these people fired,
I don't mind people getting fired for celebrating it. However OP does have a point on the division. See my latest post for why.
Some times division is a very good thing.
People are on God's team or team evil.
The Bible has a lot to say about this topic.
My point is, it's the cabal, the puppet masters that wants us divided. But for now, I know this is part of the plan and it will serve as part of a big wake up call as we go forward.
They want us divided on silly shit,like race or republican vs. Democrate.
Their biggest fear is all of us divided against them.
Nope, sorry. That's not the puppet masters fear.
A population united against the puppet masters is what they fear.
Poorly worded,but what i meant.
All of us against them.
o7
Agree. They (puppet masters, cabal, etc) fear 3 things:
United populace
Armed populace
Wealthy populace
They've been attacking #1 with co-exist, mass migrations and DEI for years.
They've been attacking #2 with FF shootings and gun control for years.
They've been attacking #3 with stock market shenanigans, plandemics and migrant (slave) workforces for years
Well said. #3 will be dealt with if anyone doesn't think it's not going to be.
Things will likely get a lot more messy. Looks like the modern battlefield is not for you. People sat it out 250 years,and a lot of them will sit this one out....
That's a good point you bring up. Less than 20% of the population participated in the Revolutionary War. The other 80%, whatever their personal reasons were... were non participants.
The same is true for a real battle,a small percentage is aming very accurately and the rest are just firing their rifles,or doing nothing.
20% is all it takes,and I'm sure the Q team knew this,when they were building their army.
Well stated and correct.
Absolutely. For here we are as pond dwellers. When thinking of percentages it only takes singular digits of us collectively. Thusly, digital soldiers have shaped the battlefield and narrative as the movie reel spins and continues to do so. o7
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3%
I'm reminded of the sniper scene in band of brothers,when they needed some killing done,they called up shifty. I'm sure he was a good shot,but their must have been many others....
It was 3%.
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That's even better,for us.
There was a time, not long ago, when people understood that speaking ill of the dead was not something that was done. The reason we are at this point is because people haven’t called out those who cheer when others suffer. I agree with damessinger, Teachers that are openly cheering the death of anyone shouldn’t be a role model for kids.
Exactly. What's next, is OP going to say a good Christian wouldn't punish the shooter?
Can we speak ill of No Name?
https://greatawakening.win/p/140IiaDCk8/learn-about-the-earths-water-cyc/c/
Treason is treason, after all. Dante put Brutus and Judas into Satan’s mouths.
I was taught that it was ill mannered, but you do you.
Same, and usually do, but he’s seemed like a good one-off exception.
I mean, everybody accepts talking ill about Hitler, and he’s dead, right? “Son of Cain” did a lot of damage to us.
Very true. I try not to speak ill of the dead, but I do, he’s one of them so is daddy bush and a few others.
The left wrote the rules. We are just using the rules on them. Sucks for them. 😂
And from what I've seen the left is crying because the right is showing them not only can we use their weapons against them but we're even better at using them. These morons got a stark reminder that we're not the dumb hillbillies we're portrayed to them as, after all many of the people who built the Internet and such were right-wingers or moderates.
Jesus did get angry at times and lash out at evil, he wasn't all sunshine and rainbows. We've had to deal with marxist oppression for 15 years and now they've openly declared hostile intent. They deserve some hard lessons, it's the only way they'll learn.
The Bible also doesn't say anywhere to tolerate evil.
In OPs example, it's just simply consequences of their own actions... celebrating murder, terrorism and school shooting. Also known as accountability. For some reason OP thinks democrats should be exempt from this. This rhetoric also leads to further dehumanization of the right, making things like this far more likely to happen in the future.
These anti American values do not belong in America or it's work places.
There's actually a story in the Bible about tolerance. The book of Samuel I believe. A priest tolerated sin an evil in his synagogue. The message to him from God was that neither he nor his sons or anyone of his lineage will ever enter heaven because of his tolerance of sin.
The Bible also tells you that every one including your slaves should live under the law. Meaning God's law. We are a Christian nation.
The Bible also tells us to admonish the unruly amongst us.
This is Just Revenge and Karma Due for what the left has been doing to us, which has been infinitely worse than "getting canceled". These sickos have LITERALLY BEEN MURDERING PEOPLE. I will NOT accept that we shouldn't cancel them because it's "wrong".
Jesus ALSO PHYSICALLY BEAT AND REMOVED the bankers from the temple with a WHIP when it came time. So dodge me with your holier than thou rhetoric of "but mah turn the other cheek".
We don't need to get violent, but we are ENTIRELY JUSTIFIED in RUINING these sick fucks lives like THEY HAVE BEEN DOING TO US, and WORSE, for DECADES! Kick rocks with your bleeding heart bullshat.
And another thing, we got canceled and lost careers and families over "I don't think that vaccine is safe" or "I said a bad word years ago", they're getting canceled over "Glad he's dead Kill more Christians". We are not the same. You are a joke. Who are the shills upvoting this dork?
More shills. We have some that are very subtle and some that are obvious.
Memorize them. Many of us keep recollective logs of such comment/posting patterns here. When you've been an anon since b4 the beginning, it's hard not to take note of... but all of those awake to the fuckery should be aware of the same.
I do my best.
o7
The best we can do is croak about it so the whole farm hears pond! Kek... Never hold back fren!
I'm wondering which mod stickied this shitdicks post?
And getting them fired is simply a start, there's a lot of other ways to use the collected info against them to make them miserable without violence.
Do not make it revenge.
“Vengeance is mine, thus saith The LORD.”
It would be an attempt at reestablishing justice.
“You’re just playing with words.”
Not at all. The inclinations of the heart matter.
Ive never been about cancel culture nor will Ive also never doxxed anyone not even Phillies Karen.But I'm also not about to give money to those who hate me, that's just stupid. Actions have consequences. I don't watch woke movies or television I don't knowingly give my hard earned money to woke companies.
Are we supposed to be door mats bending over and just say please sir may I have another?
Yes I stopped separating the art from the artist a long time ago.
If we are to win this war we must be on a war-footing. One is not unhinged to be on a war-footing, nor is one defending his position fighting fire with fire being a hypocrite. You are not yet on a war footing and you are not destined to win if you are so so overly self-conscious you become frozen on the battle field and fail to engage the enemy because you're worried about hurting their "feeewings"
Grow up and spend more time in boot camp developing an effective warrior's mindset before you ever think of getting near the trenches. In the meantime, just don a apron in the mess hall and make sure the coffee is poured before it gets cold.
If they have no consequences for the abhorrent but legal speech, guess what eventually comes, murder. These people have done and said whatever they like for 10 f'n years. It's high time to fight back and I could give a shit what anyone thinks about my opinion. We almost lost our President too. So we are unhinged because we want people held accountable for their actions? Many of these demons are PUBLIC employees and by gosh, I refuse to FUND their hate any longer with my TAXES. Let them try the private sector. We are limited on how we can fight, this is peaceful resistance. Imo, we are flipping the tables.
Oh my gosh my dear sweet friend you said what I thought so much clearer than what I had been able to so I deleted my comment I just want to add to yours. The price is higher than just them losing their jobs and being held accountable in the end it will be there very Souls that they lose and we will be accountable for it if we do nothing and we stand by and let them get away with everything. I'm in complete agreement with you angel I really thank you for posting this.
u/#updoot
We can’t get them to humble themselves through dialogue, maybe they will humble themselves through their stomachs. Prideful ain’t getting in!
Let’s be sure to pray for them more intensely through this! Excellent points, u/HunnyB and u/AngelCole !
Angel you are spot on! This is what I was thinking as well. These people have never been held accountable for any of their hate speech, riots & doxing. If they are never held accountable for their actions, how will they ever learn a lesson on how to treat others?
Yeah someone was saying this rhetoric that we're "going too far" in a livestream last night and when someone in chat asked "would you still have this attitude if the Butler shooter had succeeded" she had no answer and rapidly wrapped up the stream.
Before his arrest, Jesus instructed his disciples to buy swords, stating, "the one who has no sword should sell his cloak and buy one" (Luke 22:36). FYI do not forget God has shown vengeance on mankind before. He wiped the out world with water even turned a city into a salt lick. Jesus said turn the other cheek not let your cheek become bloody and busied.
Just a reminder that in the days that was said, anyone doing this would be stoned in the street. Dancing on the grave of someone who died from natural causes, like rush, while morbid and vulgar is just poor taste. Dancing on the grave of an assassinated political opponent while people are making lists including Charlie's wife of who to kill next is tacit approval of the violence and id argue an accessory to it. Do you think it's safe for normal people to have to place trust in people who have openly sided with abject terrorism? Its insane that you twist the principle and command to forgive into blanket amnesty for the left. You can forgive someone you still hold accountable.
Dude, what is wrong with you? We are using their own strategy against them. If anyone lets the division take over their soul to THAT extreme you are implying, then they weren’t able to roll with Trump/Q operation to begin with.
“You don’t have the balls, son.”
YT comment I saw: “If you think people should be shot for their opinions, don't cry over getting fired for yours.“
It’s long past time they get treated according to their own principles. You argue hypocrisy which to be fair is valid. But we played by our rules for decades, extended hands in friendship, and got spat on, abused, and fired from our jobs by the gremlins crying now about the 1st amendment, freedom of speech and the constitution. Hell Charlie died playing by our rules.
I’m long past the point of caring. They’ll go right back to doing the same God Damn thing. They don’t care. They don’t care about the Constitution, They don’t care about the 1st Amendment. They never cared about the lives they ruined before. They’re only crying now because they’re on the backfoot and getting a taste of their own medicine.
Compared to what a response could have been. This is actually fairly tame and measured.
I get the empathy and desire to stand by your Free Speech principles. But that won’t stop them from strangling you with them the second they get the chance. They don’t view you as a fellow human and American Citizen worthy of the same protections you want to extend to them.
If we want a world where the principles outlined in the Constitution actually matter. Then it’s time to deal with this problem now. Using the non-lethal means at our disposal while they are still at our disposal. Maybe having to find a new Job will be beneficial in restoring some of their humanity. We are rapidly running out of solutions that don’t involve people reverting to the 2nd.
I do not want my children being cared for or educated by someone who would cheer my murder.
I do not want medical care from anyone who would cheer my murder.
I do not want to be served food by someone who would cheer my murder.
I do not want to be protected by people who would cheer my murder.
I do not want to have my car services by people who would cheer my murder.
I do not want to hire someone who would cheer my murder.
I do not want to do banking with people who would cheer my murder.
I do not want to do business with people who would cheer my murder.
So at what point do we fight back? The left keeps killing us and we respond with being passive and brushing it off cause "we're better than them".
I dont see it as vindictive hypocrisy as you paint it. It's simple cause & effect.
All people should be aware of their own actions and any potential outcome from them. Mr Kirk was aware of this and bravely kept speaking for what he believed in. If these fired folks cant deal with the consequences of their own actions, then in theory they cant deal with what other individuals do either. So they have no responsibility and only narcissistic views and response to anything and everything effecting their lives.
I say fuck them and let them deal with the fallout of their own destruction. The only person ultimately responsible for anyone is themselves, and their own actions are entirely on them.
Very important point here. The employers are the ones doing the firing. If I see something someone posted on the internet and share that with their employer, I'm not doing that individual any harm. They're the ones putting it out to the public in the first place. At that point, it's totally up to the employer to take action or not. If I were to threaten that employer with a boycott or some other action, I'd be over the line. I certainly wouldn't be acting like Jesus at that point. But to share it with an employer, say something like "I thought you should be aware of this" and leave it at that, no foul as far as I'm concerned. I do see people on the right gloating over the fact that some are losing their jobs. There's no need for that. Personally, I haven't passed along anything to anyone (just using myself as an example here) but I support the ones who are. Just keep it civil and leave it in the hands of the employer.
Double standard? What the hell are you even talking about? We're not trying to take any rights away from them. I want them to speak freely. I want to know who the murderers next door are. They can say anything they want, but it's about time there was consequences for their hatred. I hope that every employer learns to check these people and I hope we have enough documented that they can never find a job again.And maybe they'll finally leave our country and go to some shithole communist country where they can learn some gratitude.
We are finished turning the other cheek that doesn’t mean we’re gonna get violent. It means we’re gonna start calling the left us out on their bullshit. Conservatives aren’t violent leftists are because they’re mentally ill.
I am no fan of cancel culture, but I draw the line with the First Amendment.
The difference between "the left calling for firings" and "the right calling for firings" is that when the left does it, it's generally because their target says something that they don't like, but that is ultimately protected under free speech.
When the Right does it, as we are seeing now, it's because the left is calling for more violence, is celebrating death and pain. There is a massive difference in these two paths.
It's one thing to have empathy and forgiveness, but do not sacrifice your home and values for suicidal empathy.
Proverbs 17:15: “He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the Lord.”
Treating those who celebrate murder as if they are beyond accountability falls into justifying the wicked, yourself.
Proverbs 24:24-25 — “He that saith unto the wicked, Thou art righteous; him shall the people curse, nations shall abhor him: But to them that rebuke him shall be delight, and a good blessing shall come upon them.”
We are commanded to rebuke the wicked, not to be silent when we see it.
Romans 13:3-4 — “For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil… he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.”
Forgiveness does not negate civil accountability.
Isaiah 5:20 — “Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness.”
Luke 17:3 — “Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.”
We are not bound to forgive those who celebrate murder. We are called to rebuke first, then forgive when repentance is given honestly. Forgiveness must follow repentance; it's not an unconditional indulgence.
Matthew 18:6 — “But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.”
Jesus himself taught the seriousness of leading others into sin or celebrating harm.
Do not cite forgiveness as a biblical requirement, without first understanding what the bible itself teaches us first. Christians, or any who believe in the Bible, are not required to forgive transgression until we have been destroyed for our unconditional forgiveness. There is a line in the sand that they have crossed. They must face the consequences of their actions and offer repentance before they can be forgiven.
Forgiveness is not erasing consequences. It is not silence in the face of wickedness. Scripture teaches us to rebuke evil, hold it accountable, and forgive when repentance is real. Anything else isn’t biblical grace, it’s enabling evil.
Losing their jobs should be the least of their worries.
You don't rebuild society with this trash in it.
If you try you fail.
The left, for over a decade now, has cancelled people for simply disagreeing with them on almost anything. just that alone. people are afraid to even admit to being conservative lest they be fired.
But cheering, encouraging political violence, all the dehumanization, must come to an end and can be tolerated no longer. The left has become so comfortable demonizing the right and calling for violence against them, labeling them on par with nazis, school teachers show 10 yr olds the closeup kill shot video on repeat with glee, and Left socials put out hit requests on other conservative figures they dislike.
The rhetoric from the left is this violence is good and more should happen. They deserve to be fired for encouraging political violence as they are incapable of performing their duties in a way that is safe for everyone they serve which includes conservatives. inciting political violence is not free speech.
How is it hypocrisy when [they] do everything in [their] power to silence us? There is clearly nothing these unhinged people won't do. They were cheering and dancing when good people were being fired over mask and vaccine mandates. They cheered and danced when Abbey Gate, Benghazi, and all the other suicide bombings happened. They cheered and danced when our private citizens were kidnapped and beheaded by Islamic savages. They cheer and dance over the murder of our politicians and LEOs. They prey on our children. They demand our silence and compliance when it comes to their insane policies. They lie straight to our faces about what they do with taxpayer money.
I'm not apologetic for my view as it relates to the need to sometimes meet violence with violence. Jesus was the ABSOLUTE BEST of us, perfect in His creation and actions. I, however, am not a perfect person. There are some things I cannot and refuse to forgive. The purposeful targeting of innocent people is one of those crimes I simply cannot forgive.
I'm not condoning violence on this platform...yet. But at some point, if things continue down the current path we're on, if our society gets worse, that will change. And if anyone here has a problem with that, so be it. I WILL NOT apologize for that. Sometimes, people need to be removed from our society. And sometimes, that means permanently removing them from this planet.
If these asshats want to escalate things further, there will be nothing we can do to stop it short of meeting their violence with violence of our own choosing. One thing people around here forget about, is that the enemy gets a vote too. And if they continue to vote for violent action, meeting that with non-violent means is dangerous and foolish. I for one refuse to be a victim in that scenario. And I don't expect anyone else to end up a victim, too.
Maybe you forgot what they did to us during covid, sorry no Mercy for the Fucking left
We are in a culture war. The entirety of the left needs to be removed, and ostracized from society at any cost. Failure to do so results in allowing the left to perpetuate their violence.
History proves time and again that the left will never stop leveraging violence to try to attain political power. Leftists must always resort to violence because the entire leftist platform (agenda) is a demonstrable failure of logic and reason. That's why they hated Charlie Kirk so much. Nobody with a brain wants the bullshit leftists are selling.
Fire them; do not hire them; do not house them; do not rent to them; do not buy from them; do not sell to them; do not help them in any endeavors; do not vote for them; do not even invite them to hang out with you; do not do anything that helps the cause of leftists, because ultimately you are helping leftists promote organized violence- always, always, always, without exception.
The entirety of leftist culture needs to be removed from American society. They are irredeemable. The leftist democrat party needed to be outlawed in 1861 when they started the first civil war, and that vile party still needs to be outlawed today. We didn't hang nearly enough slave owning democrats back in the 1860's. The least we can do today is to ostracize them from our society, lest history repeat with the left causing a second civil war in America.
The right has the moral high ground. We had better use it.
Why are you shilling for the other side? All right , you're probably one of those reddit morons , that came over here. Just be honest.
They did much fucking worse to us in 2020. Sometimes people's give a fuck meters are on empty. This is one of those times, period.
Cry about it if you must, but these little shitstains need to reap what they sowed.
Its not hypocrisy. Its acknowledging they refuse to play fair, they refuse to be civil, they'd rather kill us than talk, AND they're HAPPY to see an opponent murdered. If they acknowledge their wickness and sincerely apologize, I can forgive them. Will I? Don't know. But I could. And, we BOTH know they won't. The kind of person who allows politics to turn them into a person who mocks the dead is usually too far gone to reflect on how evil they've become.
Its not a double standard, its following THEIR standard. The double standard was having one for us when shit happens to us, and another for them when shit happens to them. WE would hold vigils, peacefully protest, and turn the other cheek when they jeered and threatened us, and WE would face arrest/prison time. THEY would riot in the streets, murder more people, mob people in their cars, block streets and highways, and NEVER FACE ANY CONSEQUENCES. Holding them to their OWN standard is the LEAST we could be doing to give them some long overdue accountability.
Additionally, people like this feel EMBOLDENED to be the way they are because we've been civil about their wickedness for so long that they don't think we'll EVER do anythinga bout it.
When you reward bad behavior you get more of it. When you punish bad behavior you get less of it.
Exactly all that it takes for evil to prosper is fir good men to do nothing. Well in addition to doing nothing we've said nothing for so long because they tried to and succeeded in shaming us for too long.
Honestly, it's not anywhere close to the response that's deserved to them. Doxxing them, etc. is the polite way of letting them know their actions won't be tolerated anymore. I have to be careful because mods get bent up but some of us would support a hotter solution...
We can forgive and still hold accountable. If someone is celebrating a murder openly then they shouldn't have a place teaching children. Period.
Sooner for later these people were going to have to be removed from their little islands of power. Cancel Culture coming home to roost is just fine with me.
You are conflating two different things.
One is forgiveness. Another is consequences for actions.
A murderer can be forgiven by God. But that doesn't mean they're not going to jail.
There are no double standards or hypocrisy in holding someone accountable for the things they have done.
You bring up good points and I'm not quite sure where I land on this. I'd like to see this discussed more.
https://greatawakening.win/p/1AR0LWEiL3/this-is-the-biggest-lesson-of-ch/c/
The left is well documented to continue to push and push and push the boundaries until they are openly murdering you.
Just like it was done during every single leftist revolution all throughout the last century.
First, they claim "stop oppressing me"
Then, They start to demonize you.
Then, violence is ok against you.
Then, murder against you is socially acceptable. <--- You are getting here.
Then, the "revolutionary" violence against you openly starts and it continues until they seize power. (or they are exterminated)
Finally, they use institutional power to openly prosecute you, murder you and enslave you.
This has being repeated in every leftist revolution in history. I am not merely "claiming" this. This, is the literal development pattern of leftist revolution.
They already murder the unborn in the guise of women's rights, and in Canada one in 20 people are being Euthanized because it would cost more to treat them than kill them.. All in the left wing. These people are deceived its a spiritual battle I've been a spiritual warrior intercessor for most of my life .
They are literal killers. Not merely spiritual deficient.
The behavior we are seeing from the left is evil. We are not required to forgive evil we are compelled to fight against it. What is happening in this country is so demonic it should be confronted. More of these animals should be doxxed. More of them should be fired and more of them should be confronted. Enough is enough.