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Slyver 1 point ago +1 / -0

Well, it's more than just funding. That is just a piece of the puzzle. The entities themselves were provably created by Rockefeller et al.

Prohibition was created by Rockefeller by his creation of the 18th amendment. He also stopped prohibition by his creation of the 21st amendment. Very few people realize that those amendments (and others) were directly created and abolished by Rockefeller (Jr. in this case), but it's all pretty easy to find the information (if you already know to look for it). Just one more thing shoved down the memory hole. The reasons for Prohibition and it's abolishment are a huge story, but outside of the scope of this post.

The ATF was created by Rockefeller to control, among other things, Prohibition. It was created by Rockefeller previously, but it grew big teeth as a result of Prohibition (just one of the purposes of the psyop called "Prohibition") The surface control of the ATF changed hands a few times, so it has a convoluted history, but in every case it was completely under the control of the Rockefeller family.

Similarly, the Fed was created by provable agents of Morgan, Rockefeller and Rothschild. It may be that both Morgan and Rockefeller were agents of Rothschild, or at least beholden to them, but that too is out side of this scope.

The creation of the IRS is a little bit convoluted. As best as I can find, the IRS corporation was created by three people who are ghosts (I could find no information on them other than their names). It was incorporated in Florida in 1933. While I can't find the direct ties to the incorporation of the IRS by Rockefeller, it acts as a primary agent of the Fed, and acts as the sole subcontractor of the US Treasury (AKA not actually under the control of the government), same as the ATF.

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Slyver 9 points ago +9 / -0

Really more like 275% to go. The IRS, ATF, and Fed are all just different divisions of the same non-governmental agency, started and run by the same people to create a specific function: to control the government and thus the populace.

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Slyver 2 points ago +2 / -0

Both current trends and history disagree quite a bit with your assessment. Do you have an actual source?

Currently, we humans mine about 8-parts of silver to 1-part of gold ore globally. In other words, for each metric ton of gold production, there are 8 metric tons of silver.

8 silver to 1 gold mined. Looking at the chart, that is pretty much the same for the past half century or so.

Menes, the first king of Ancient Egypt, set a ratio of 2.5:1. Since then, the ratio has generally seen gold’s value rise as empires and governments became more familiar with the scarcity and difficulty of production for both metals.

Ancient Rome was one of the earliest civilizations to set a gold-to-silver ratio, starting as low as 8:1 in 210 BCE. Over the years, varying gold and silver inflows from Rome’s conquests caused the ratio to fluctuate between 8 and 12 ounces of silver for every ounce of gold.

By 46 BCE, Julius Caesar had established a standard gold-to-silver ratio of 11.5:1, shortly before it was bumped to 11.75:1 under Emperor Augustus.

History seems to agree with the current trends. If anything, we have less mined now than we did before (comparatively).

not very educated re: Metals

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Slyver 4 points ago +4 / -0

15:1 by law would be a tragedy, just like it was before. That was fuckery then and it's fuckery now. Setting the price to 15:1 forced silver to be lower than it's value. That value should be between 10:1 to 8:1 based on how much exists (how much has been mined) and how much is available (due to hording). 15:1 was an advantage to those who had all the money. That it got worse from there was just more of an advantage done by the same people who committed the original fraud.

The only way that silver can be its real value is if it is NOT set to a price. Let the market decide. Because silver is the most important commodity for all of our electronics, I suggest the market would value it at least to 8:1. Of course we all have to learn that silver, the metal, is NOT THE SAME THING as Slvr, the worthless piece of paper. THAT is the real problem. It is the same problem for all stocks and/or commodities. It is that fundamental fraud that is what needs to be addressed. Forcing silver to a bimetal standard is NOT THE WAY. That would be just another level of fuckery.

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Slyver 9 points ago +9 / -0

We won't be downsizing that far.

Why not? Do you have any idea how much government spending is not useful? For example, according to a simple search the government spent $1.9T (27% of total government expenditures) on health care (Medicare and Medicaid) in 2024. (All American spending was $4.9T in 2023, but that's a different, albeit related issue). But that whole "Health Care" thing is a scam. Health care should be probably in the range of 1/100th of what it is currently. Even if we keep all the programs, we could reduce government spending on health care down to $19B, just by fixing the American health care system. We would spend even less if we fix the nutrition issues, or chemtrails, or vaccines, or pharmaceuticals, or fluoride, etc. so that people are healthier.

And that's just health care. That doesn't even count the transgender psychiatrists in Pakistan that we pay for.

The government has been fleecing the people for a VERY long time. I don't think people really understand how bad the problem is.

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Slyver 3 points ago +3 / -0

I don't disagree with the approach. That is how everyone's research unfolds I think. Guiding that process is exactly what Q did. There is no reason to think that that isn't exactly what we are living through right now: "The Show".

I'm not convinced 1913 is one of those "butterflies" however. It's not a "key." The FED is a key. Who REALLY owns the Fed is a key. How they created money is a key. What Taxation is, is a key. Epstein's demise was a key. The fact that all these things link together through the world wars, the JFK assassination, etc. is a key chain.

You don't need to learn about the Titanic conspiracy to understand how the world works. It's really just "corroborating evidence," not "a smoking gun."

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Slyver 21 points ago +21 / -0

Trump continually referring 1913 regarding the tax stuff is definitely comms. It doesn't have to be about the Titanic. It's about the Fed, taxation, what money really is, etc.

As for the Titanic thing, sure, there was plenty of fuckery there, but the people killed who "opposed the Federal Reserve" were NOT the good guys. They were at best just slightly less evil. By "less evil" I really mean they personally would be disadvantaged by the Fed. They didn't give a fuck about the people. They wanted to not lose what they had.

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Slyver 2 points ago +2 / -0

I read the essay you linked. It is the only way I could possibly respond in a meaningful way. It didn't have hardly any actual external evidence, which is not to my liking at all. The only thing I saw that looked interesting has been scrubbed from the internet. Specifically:

In truth, the entire space program has largely been, from its inception, little more than an elaborate cover for the research, development and deployment of space-based weaponry and surveillance systems. The media never talk about such things, of course, but government documents make clear that the goals being pursued through space research are largely military in nature.

That it was scrubbed is unfortunate, but it is what it is.

The entire thing was a mash of the author's assessment of the facts using insufficient context and opinion laden rhetoric designed to make it clear that anyone who disagrees is wrong. Now, I'm OK with that type of writing. I do that myself sometimes (in posts). But I don't do that if I am trying to make a convincing argument to a skeptic. I don't do it when it really matters.

I have so many issues with that essay that I don't even know where to begin. I can't possibly address them all. Instead, I will be brief, and say what I think happened with regards to the moon landing. All of the things I say are also congruent with the evidence the writer presents. I am not arguing against his stated facts (though I am arguing some of his opinions pretending to be facts). My assessment comes from both what was addressed and additional evidence that was not addressed; additional context.

I think that the moon landing happened in 1969. I think that both the US and USSR were both working on that program. But they weren't working in competition, rather they were working in conjunction. Or perhaps a better way of saying it is, they were both in competition, but they were both "competing" under the direction of a single director. This was exactly what Musk did for his Starship program. He had a group working in Florida and in Texas. They were "competing," because competition is by far the quickest way to advance technology, especially if they are sharing information (which they were, both by Musk and the case of the US/USSR duo)..

This type of Controlled Competition is obvious everywhere. The more "important" the competition, the more quickly technology advances. Look at WWII. Look at how quickly technology advanced. Now when you understand that WWII was directed by the all the companies on both sides, you can appreciate why the tech advanced as it did. The beneficiary (not to mention the funding) of those advancements was Rockefeller (et al). That was the same entity that directed the entirety of WWII. It was the same entity that paid the salaries of all the people in the uranium programs for example (in the USSR, US, and Germany), the rocketry programs (both before, during and after WWII), the Apollo programs specifically, etc., etc. Every single one of those programs was controlled directly by Rockefeller (and/or Rothschild in the case of Britain, France, etc.). All of the media companies that controlled all the information about all those programs, both during and/or after, were also controlled by Rockefeller (et al).

The problem with all the beliefs about all major events of the past 150ish years is that all of those events were not organic. On the contrary, they were all provably controlled from the shadows (the same Shadow). The front man of all those shadows is Rockefeller (or usually the Rockefeller Foundation or one it's sister companies, or a government program created by Nelson or David Rockefeller).

So here is my assessment. As I said, the moon landing (at least some of them) happened exactly when they said they did. There are numerous gov docs that support that evidence. What they saw was not what they reported to the public (also supported by that same source). I think a great deal of the footage was faked (though possibly not all). It is the fake footage (that is relatively easy to find for any investigator) that causes so much confusion. I think that fake footage was intentional. How better to hide what actually happened then to make the conspiracy theorists believe something else? You give them something, real evidence of fuckery, but direct them in the wrong direction. That happens ALL THE TIME; a form of a Limited Hangout.

I think the moon is not what we think it is. I think it is more likely that we actually live in a REALLY BIG Truman Show.

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Slyver 2 points ago +2 / -0

It's an NGO now. You just need to appreciate the timing of the naming.

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Slyver 1 point ago +1 / -0

because we were already there

Do you have any evidence to support that?

The footage really IS from the moon

There is a fair amount of evidence that suggests that at least some of the footage was faked, but not all of it. In addition, the actual moon landing, the one in 1969, almost certainly happened.

There is all sorts of fuckery there, but the actual event of sending astronauts to the moon almost certainly happened in 1969 as advertised. What they saw, however, probably wasn't what they said they saw.

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Slyver 3 points ago +5 / -2

the Nazis actually did escape to Antarctica

"The Nazis actually" escaped to the US, Britain, Saudi Arabia, and Russia, or stayed in Germany for the most part, becoming the most well paid and most prolific intelligence agency operatives (or their leaders), scientists (also their leaders), politicians (ditto), and teachers (blah, blah, blah) on the planet. A few went to various South American countries, but only a few, and those still were intelligence operatives of one variety or another.

The Nazis DID have a base on Antarctica during WWII. There were probably plenty who lived there afterwards as well. The current bases are probably still full of Nazis, at least from the policies and institutions they created, even if most workers don't realize who they work for.

colonized the Moon

The Moon landing, via the US, was run, on every level, by those Nazi scientists. Did those Nazis who directed US astronauts to land on the Moon create a colony? Quite possibly. There is a WHOLE LOT of fuckery going on there, and more than enough hidden money and black ops that could have created such a thing. I personally think the Nazis, through the US and possibly the USSR, did colonize the moon.

and Mars

This one I'm not so sure about. However, there is a lot of information that makes me think it is possible. If it did happen, it happened in the same way that everything else has happened since the Nazis did their thing, through the US and USSR acting together (as a form of controlled opposition, both ultimately controlled by Rockefeller et al).

The Nazis...

...are not who you think they are.

The Nazis were controlled, on every level, by Rothschild and Rockefeller (or whoever controls them) from before the Nazis became "the Nazis." These people ran WWI. One of the primary goals of that endeavor was to destabilize the German (Prussian) economy primarily through "reparations" (who was completely controlled by Rockefeller and Rothschild). After completely destroying their economy, to the point that it was impossible for it to recover, they then directed and funded the political party called "the Nazis" and gave them the path to "economic security." This was done, in the end, by the creation of the Bank of International Settlements (BIS), the bank that legally rules the world. This bank was created by Rockefeller and Rothschild specifically to stabilize the German economy through the Nazi party.

The primary goal of all these efforts was, I think, to ensure that no country in the world could ever use an economy except theirs. What they wanted to do with that economy was give themselves direct, legal operations for Everything; like create the state of Israel (or "re"create it), create a formal World Government under their control (they already had an informal one), and to create the illusion of the Cold War, which allowed them to create The Matrix.

One of those outcomes was also one of the most important, and that was to create the path to the moon. Do you really think they didn't do anything with the moon after 1973? In my opinion, they almost certainly have bases on the moon. Those bases were created by the Nazis, except the Nazis weren't really the Nazis, but a proxy entity. The same entity that had already fully controlled the governments of the US, USSR, and Britain. Not to mention all the other countries on the planet, but these are the most important in this context.

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Slyver 8 points ago +8 / -0

The illusory truth effect (also known as the illusion of truth effect, validity effect, truth effect, or the reiteration effect) is the tendency to believe false information to be correct after repeated exposure.

How could it not be true?

That's how.

I realize you were speaking sarcastically, but the details of this concept are such an important thing to understand. This method of lying has been done numerous times, creating "truth" by repetition and omission (memory holes). Some of the biggest falsehoods in this category still percolate in the common belief. Most people, EVEN HERE, still believe those falsehoods. For those that realize they are falsehoods, most don't realize they were all perpetrated by the same group.

This "repetition of falsehood" is the key component of brain washing techniques (MKUltra e.g.). It isn't just that a person believes a falsity, it is that by repetition, and social pressure (or other trusted source) they are forced to even consider any evidence to the contrary of that forced belief. Their brain must align with the beliefs of the trusted source (even if it is just "the majority believe it") in order to function in society. But we are social creatures. Indeed, for some, the loss of personal societal cohesion would be worse than death. Thus the belief is essential for existence. The belief becomes a need; an actual need, as important as food, or shelter, or air. How hard is it really then to internally adopt the repeated belief, the brain washing?

In order to counter brainwashing, incontrovertible, contrary evidence requires that evidence come from a trusted source, a socially accepted source. Only then can there be an adoption of a change of belief.

Thus "declass" and "timing is everything."

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Slyver 20 points ago +21 / -1

"Why did it matter who holocausted the jews?"

No one "holocausted" the Jews. It didn't happen. So it doesn't "matter" at all.

Unlike the actual assassination of JFK, which does matter.

Indeed, I suggest the exposition of the JFK assassination matters more than almost anything else, simply because it requires people to pay attention to reality; bringing them from the beginnings of their deep slumber.

What is most interesting is that both the non-holocaust and the JFK assassination were both controlled by the same entity.

And that understanding, when it occurs en masse, is what really matters.

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Slyver 3 points ago +3 / -0

I forgot to respond to you. Sorry about that. I had put it out of my mind temporarily because an elaboration is lengthy, and the "source" is mostly me. Many of the connections are from my own research. The sources come from archeological, genetic, or old history ("old" means history written prior to the mid 19th century, when Rockefeller/Rothschild rewrote history). These sources, when put together, create a chain of evidence that followed the most amazing story ever told (or at least one of them).

Here is an old post of mine that gives part of that chain, starting with the connection between the Tartarians and the Scythians. I've left some of the surrounding context of my relevant response, so the evidence begins a couple pasts further down the thread.

I've written a couple hundred pages in a partial report on that investigation. I haven't published it yet. I probably will eventually. Interestingly, I looked up "Royal Scythians" on google and the AI generated synopsis has a lot of interesting sources. It doesn't give all the important information, but has a surprising amount of it. None of that stuff was there in the commonly found historical resources the last time I looked into it a year or two ago. I think the AI stuff may be part of intentional declass.

Of course it misses out the connection to today, and it doesn’t talk about the genetic record that connects this people (the Arians, or Aryans) that proves they are the exact same group that ruled in every country through all of recorded time, which is, I suggest, the most important evidence, but it still gives a lot more than before, and that’s something.

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Slyver 4 points ago +4 / -0

Once 911 is revealed (officially) all the shit in the world hits the biggest fan ever imagined. All the other false flags (there are many) will only give the scope, which is very important, but I think the actual Awakening will happen with 911 declass.

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Slyver 4 points ago +4 / -0

Yes... the Scythians...

It's important to appreciate that it's not the Scythians, it's the Royal Scythians. This is a distinct group; a specifically noted leadership class and family, with specific phenotype.

There are many groups of people called the Scythians. The Cimmerians (from Conan the Barbarian fame), the Saka (which is another word for "Scythe" AKA sword), the Tartarians (he changed their name by Genghis Khan), the Gokturks, the Khazarians, etc. All these people were Scythians of one Khanate or another ("Khan" is the original word for "King"), but all of these Kings were from the Royal Scythian family, whether they called themselves "Scythian" or not (generally they explicitly did, or history notes them as that).

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Slyver 4 points ago +4 / -0

I'm still not sure about the elongated skulls. I took some time to look into it, but I had some reasonable doubts. I plan to look into it more at some point. Having said that, there is SOMETHING there. I am just not sure what it is.

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Slyver 5 points ago +5 / -0

The controllers of ancient Egypt (pharaoh) never ceded power.

My research suggests it's not the "controllers of ancient Egypt." Well, perhaps it is, but that's the incorrect categorization. There is a bigger picture. The controllers of ancient Egypt are the same entity that controlled all the other Empires; what we call the Scythians, or rather, the Royal Scythians, or rather, the Aryans. It is a family. A single genetic group, noted by their Blond/Red hair, and Blue/Green eyes. This family rules the world, and they have for the entire time (at least 6000 years that I have been able to track them). All of the other Empires are exactly that; Empires. Empires MEANS they are multicultural, multiracial. So all these other groups that have all these different phenotypes are called something different, but the group that has been the leader of those groups have been predominantly the same blonde/red hair, and blue/green eyed family. All over the world.

Pharaoh and his numerous offspring, of EVERY race, creed and on the surface religion, constantly fighting to wrestle control away from their kin

Yes. It is both an aristocracy AND a meritocracy. That is the only true government that ever exists. The same family members looking for dominance. FFS, look at how WWI went. Most people are completely obvious to the fact that all the members of the competing "factions" were all cousins. The exact same Family, all descendants of the first Merovingian, explicitly stated as a Royal Scythian (according to his own account). It was that statement, given power by the Roman Church, that allowed the Merovingian to rule in Europe after the Roman Empire "fell", and from him comes the entire ruling family in all of Europe.

The Royal Scythians (or whatever they were called before that) control the world in some level of competition against each other, but they also work with a joint agenda, remaining control of the plebs. This group has been in control probably since the reset (or Flood, or comet, or whatever it is that happened 13,000ish years ago), and possibly before that. People like Presidents, or Senators, etc., AKA the Front Men are related to that family (all cousins), but they are, I think, partially diluted from that Aryan "perfection."

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Slyver 3 points ago +4 / -1

lay it out, maybe 200 words or less

That is impossible. Just saying it, without the evidence, will be rejected, so what is the point?

Nevertheless, I will attempt to be brief. This is as minimal as I can figure out to say it where it will make any sense.

The social world is constructed as a pyramid.

  • At the base of the pyramid is the useless eaters (the populace). Almost all of them are completely oblivious. They live in The Matrix and they are happy to be there, living purely as an energy source for the Machine.

  • Above them is the first layer of management. These are agents of the Cabal, but most of them have no idea that they are agents of the Cabal. They believe "the Cabal" is just a "conspiracy theory," just like everyone else. All of these people have been compromised; they are aware they are corrupted and are controlled by "someone up the food chain", but for most, their belief is that the Food Chain doesn't extend very far (up to a mafia don, e.g., or corrupt local politician, etc.). These are the people who have some level of awareness of "how the world really works," but they get it all wrong, intentionally. These people are the corrupted people who have some level of influence or control. This level are the corrupt cops, low level CIA/FBI agents or their assets (newsmen, writers, some actors, youtube influencers, etc.), lawyers, some judges, lieutenants in the mafia, VPs in big corporations, etc..

  • Above them is the second layer of management. These people have more influence and more control, but they are still visible; the Front Men (front people). They have more knowledge, to an extent, that there is a bigger Food Chain and who the real people are who are running the show. They aren't just compromised, they are made. They get to the positions they have because they are owned, promoted to become the people who sit at what the populace believes is the "top of society." These are people like big corporate CEOs, A-list actors, the world's most popular newsmen, high level judges, police chiefs of big cities, high level CIA/FBI agents (the corrupted ones), Senators, Vice Presidents, Presidents. These people become who they are because the next level up the chain has promoted them.

  • Above these Front Men are the Board of Directors. These are actual boards of directors (BOD), aka people who sit on BODs of major corporations, NGOs, mafia, etc. Basically the Cabal. They are in the positions they are in because they were both born into it, and they are corrupted. They are groomed from birth. Not everyone who is born to this top level of society is corrupted, but those who make it to a BOD become who they are because they are both born into it (a genetic legacy, aka an aristocracy) and by skill (meritocracy), and because they are corrupted, compromised, black mailed.

  • Within the top of the pyramid is another pyramid, an internal structure. For example, the Council of Foreign Relations has such an internal structure. There is the low level CFR members, people who have some level of what is going on but who have no real decision making power, and the top level CFR members who are promoted within that internal group. These top level are the people who “advise” the Senators and Congressmen to make the Country’s foreign policy decisions. This top level of CFR are also the exact same people who sit on the Bilderbergs, Trilateral Commission, and other such organizations. Similarly there are the corporate BODs. No one who is at the highest level sits on just one organization. They sit on them all. The more BODs you sit on, the more higher up the food chain you sit. Look at how many BODs some people sit on (a lot of that information is hidden). After the Teapot Dome scandal, a Senate investigation into Frank Vanderlip for example (an agent of JD Rockefeller), was found to be on 40+ BODs, not to mention a founding member of the CFR. It takes a great deal more elaboration to understand this internal structure, and it's not as cut and dry as that (JD Rockefeller sat higher than Vanderflip e.g., even though he was on fewer BODs), but this an example.

The Cabal acts as a terrorist organization composed of Cells. At each layer there is minimal information and understanding of the real organization, people, agendas. In the lower and middle layers, most don’t even know the Cabal exists; only that they are compromised (someone controls their actions to some extent). Only the top layer knows what is really going on; they are the ones who do the actual decision making. The people just below the top layer know they are controlled, compromised, black mailed. Indeed, they make it that high because of that compromise. LBJ was one such person. So was Allen Dulles. They were both provably made men (agents of family Rockefeller).

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Slyver 2 points ago +2 / -0

LBJ had a reputation as a vindictive SOB. I wouldn't put this past him.

LBJ didn't do this without permission, or more likely by direction, from the Rockefellers. Perhaps even from higher up the food chain (Rothschild etc.).

Anyone who thinks this ultimately originated from LBJ doesn't understand how the world works.

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Slyver 16 points ago +16 / -0

This is a CNN poll. It always adds at least 10% to Dem by default.

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Slyver 1 point ago +1 / -0

They need some event that hits them in the face.

Yes. I think that will happen. But the build up is important.

The Tesla is a bastion of Lefty culture. By turning it in to a Nazimobile it unconsciously confuses the narrative. That unconscious confusion primes people for the impact event.

Any good movie has a build up. Just slapping someone in the face is insufficient if your intention is to a "moral to the story." You first need to understand the evil of the slapper, the details of the hand doing the slapping, and the history that motivated the slap itself.

Turning a Tesla into a Nazimobile is GENIUS as part of that build up. The confusion of "who's the bad guy," which is probably the most important moral to this story, is an essential part of this Movie we are watching. This may have been done by a BH, but this has WH control written all over it.

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Slyver 13 points ago +13 / -0

Hopefully normies see this obvious fact.

I suggest that is the point.

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Slyver 2 points ago +3 / -1

It was actually 17-10-27. The "10" was also clearly there, obscured by the youtube button on the screenshot. That would be Oct. 17, 2027 (or 1927, or 1827?).

At one point they moved around and it was 10-27-17 (the day before first q post?).

Or it was 17+10=27...

The numbers are interesting. I'm just not sure why, other than "17."

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