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SwampRangers 2 points ago +2 / -0

It just got corrected now. Misinfo on WP about deaths of living persons usually has a life much less than this case, 18 minutes. WP is always fun to watch.

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SwampRangers 2 points ago +2 / -0

Is there nothing here about the Pentagon at all? The mysterious taxicab stall? The 5 precision lamppost takeouts? The Doomsday Plane immediately afterward (which could be conflated with the alleged doomed flight immediately beforehand)? The testimonies of the escapees through the hole? This graphic looks like it was designed to hide more than it makes manifest. OP title question is indeed valid.

There was an article where one of the Pentagon survivors had just that morning been reading a disaster preparedness plan written by one of the 9/11 pilots. And that coincidence was just thrown out as if it meant nothing.

Important: No evidence any hijacker used boxcutters. Except Barbara Olson, whose alleged call to her husband (US Solicitor General) was never found in any of his call transcripts.

I need say nothing about AE911Truth.

Bin Laden died in Afghanistan in Nov 2001 under the auspices of Mullah Ullah.

Silverstein before WTC 7 fell: "Pull it." Now we have recently posted testimony that firefighters were told by men in black that WTC 7 would be "pulled" and could not be entered.

Remember Me (2010).

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SwampRangers 1 point ago +1 / -0

Schoff?

Satire by Chris Blair and Last Line of Defense.

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SwampRangers 3 points ago +3 / -0

No go, fren. The first picture is of a fake Kenyan birth certificate that circulated about 3 days before it was revealed to have been photoshopped from another one and the culprit admitted the fraud by declaring everyone "punk'd". One of the phony parts is that you see the name E. F. Lavender, which is a pun on the detergent Earth Friendly Lavender.

The second picture is a falsified Columbia University foreign student card, this too was shown to be photoshopped from another one.

The problem is that we don't have anything real on him besides his grade-school report card in Jakarta. The fact that his "mother" was registered at school in Vancouver BC about two weeks after his birth suggests that is his real birthplace; but I wouldn't be surprised by anything now, including Mars. The lefty "grandparents" made sure to advertise in two papers' birth announcements in Hawaii anyway. The unnatural-born citizen angle is only the tip of the iceberg folks. Stay alert.

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SwampRangers 2 points ago +2 / -0

Praise the Lord! Can you tell us more and how to pray for yourself and your husband?

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SwampRangers 1 point ago +1 / -0

Excellent point. Cantor got everyone on the wrong track in the 19th century with his multiple infinities and then quantum physics followed with its uncertainty principle.

There is no such "real" thing as a Cantor diagonal number because it would take an infinity of time to derive it so it cannot be conceived. Thus aleph-null equals C and all protests to the contrary are the real null.

The real difference is between the infinity we know and the infinity we don't know, but in reality they are the same and the difference is all perception. For instance if you know naturals but don't know integers, then integers are part of the infinity you don't know; but once you define integers they move to the infinity you know but they don't change at all (even though you haven't yet defined fractions). If you pursue this line you will solve P=NP and win a million dollars.

c/BerlinWallCrosser, c/VaccinesCauseSIDS

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SwampRangers 4 points ago +4 / -0

Greetings! I read it all. Every other proof Fermat claimed was shown to be real later, so the question all along has been: was Fermat mistaken and didn't admit it if he realized it later, or did he actually have the elegant path? My leaning is toward the former, but either way it's still a great problem to find the most elegant proof (or counterexample!).

I've glanced through Wiles, but do not have the luxury of reading the entire proof attentively to follow it all the way through. I trust those who have, as there is a consensus and there is not an objection of the sort that you raise. It is true that Wiles went down false trails, but the solution came up when he combined part of one trail and part of another trail and realized that both portions worked and together they constituted the complete proof. The details involve narrowing the limits on solutions by converting them to alternate mappable and reducible functions until the solution space becomes searchable; it requires great ingenuity, just like the Poincare conjecture (proven) and the Riemann (unproven).

It's my belief that the solution can be improved and that means your work is not in vain because anyone who improves on Wiles will get mentioned in math history like forever. But until we do some practical work with the transform spaces involved we don't have the right to question those who have worked with them for years.

I would strongly suggest though that instead of improving the Wiles proof you work on either the Riemann conjecture or the P=NP problem. Not only do they look easier, there's more prize money in them.

u/LoneWulf, supercomputers have been looking for a solution all this time and haven't found one up to n in the hundreds of thousands.

u/BerlinWallCrosser, that was a joke solution, it's only accurate to about a dozen places, so it looks accurate if your computer rounds it.

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SwampRangers 5 points ago +5 / -0

Buildings 3-6 were only a few stories tall. They were indeed hit by damage but they were not skyscrapers like 1-2 and 7 so the plan was to declare them total losses and raze them anyway. More evidence removal, two months, very efficient.

More important, a skyscraper on fire has collapsed into its own footprint exactly three times in history, all on this same date, and all at freefall speeds. All others stay standing and burn out, or occasionally the top half falls sideways into the street. Every implosion crew knows exactly what happened. As Larry Silverstein said before 7 collapsed, "Pull it." That earns him the Pull-It Surprise.

u/Young_Patriot

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SwampRangers 1 point ago +1 / -0

OP

1 Sanhedrin 59a: quote is several layers away from what the passage was originally about, namely, what natural law applies to all men and what Mosaic law applies to the Jews. Sanhedrin is accurately paraphrased as "A goy who pries into the law is guilty of death"; more literally at Sefaria, in one rabbi's name: "Rabbi Yohanan says: A Gentile who engages in Torah, liable death; as it is stated: 'Moses commanded us a law, an inheritance'; it is an inheritance for us, and not for them." This view is then rejected in favor of another baraita by Rabbi Meir, with the conclusion, "You have therefore learned that even a Gentile who engages in Torah is like a High Priest. There, in their seven mitzvot." That is, since Gentiles must study Torah to find out the (seven) Laws of Noah, they are free to study Torah; and Yohanan represents a rejected view. The extended form of the statement above comes not from the Talmud but is often attributed to a fictitious book name, "Libbre David 37". The nonexistence of "Libbre David" as a book or even a Hebrew phrase, and the nonexistence of quotes in several of the books correctly titled "Dibre David" beginning in 1671, was noted as early as 1920 by Hermann Strack, cited in 1939 by Ben Zion Bokser. This typo and quote arose from an anti-Talmud pamphlet, apparently by August Rohling (c. 1871), quoted by Joseph S. Bloch, Israel and the Nations, 1927, p. 4. However, the quote may still exist in some unsearched Dibre David.

2 Avodah Zarah 26b: out-of-context quote is from a different medieval source, Tractate Soferim 15 (see below for details). Avodah Zarah's closest statement seems to be: But may not a Gentile circumcise a Jew, because are suspected of bloodshed. The statement of Rabbi Meir. Even there, another Meir statement is taken to imply that a professional Gentile physician may circumcise a Jew: In a city in which there is no Jewish physician, and in which there is a Samaritan physician and an Aramean physician, Aramean circumcise and Samaritan not circumcise. The statement of Rabbi Meir. This is about Gentiles not being subject to Jewish courts, not about them being subject. Tractate Soferim 15: "R. Simeon b. Yohai taught: Kill the best of the heathens in time of war; crush the brain of the best of serpents." It's quite clear that the context changes the quote: in wartime it is understood that it is permitted to kill even the best among the enemies. But this is only one rabbi's proverb, not a halakhic majority ruling, not from the main Talmud (though cited later in Tosafot on Avodah Zarah 26b) but from early addenda.

3-5 See #1.

6 Yevamot 11b: quote appears to be a conflation of Yevamot 57b and Ketubot 11b. Ketubot says: "An adult man who engaged in intercourse with a minor girl ... their marriage contract is two hundred .... More than three years and one day old, their marriage contract is one hundred dinars and they are not a claim virginity .... An adult man who engaged in intercourse with a minor girl, nothing, as less than is tantamount to poking a finger into the eye." This is not about age at marriage, this is about marriage to a mature woman who had been abused in her youth. The ruling is that a girl abused after the age of three has a lower brideprice because she is not a virgin, but a girl abused before that can still be counted as a virgin; that is, it provides opportunity for healing for the immature victim by not challenging her virginity on physiological grounds. I've previously pointed out that Gen. 2:24 regulates sexual intercourse as limited to a covenanted man and woman, and that the abuser is thus still subject to the death penalty regardless. Ketubot is about the marriageability aspect, not about the crime; and Yevamot 57b is about the applicability of levirate marriage and is even more tangential. 57b says: "With regard to a girl less than three years and one day old. Since there is no intercourse her." This just restates the principle above that an abuse incident in an infant's life is not held against her virginity, and it goes on to apply this principle to the mature bride's rights to eat offerings.

7 Shavuot Haggadah: no match. There are many books so named. Pranaitis translates Rohling as "If the magistrate of a city compels Jews to swear that they will not escape from the city nor take anything out of it, they may swear falsely by saying to themselves that they will not escape today, nor take anything out of the city today only." Asher ben Jehiel (1250-1327), and "Shevuot, Haggahot Asheri" 6:4 by Israel of Krems (15th c.), may be intended, as Israel speaks about false oaths. The quote is similar to Bava Kamma 113a. Actual text: "Rav Ashi said: With regard to a Gentile customs collector .... one approaches circuitously; the statement of Rabbi Yishmael. Rabbi Akiba says: One does not approach circuitously due to the sanctification of God's name." The two contradictory views are stated, then the ruling is given that Akiba is correct even if the Name is not in consideration due to Lev. 25:48 prohibiting robbing a Gentile, as quoted herein at "Sanhedrin 57a". So this paraphrase is almost accurate for the view of the minority of Rav Ashi and Rabbi Yishmael, but not for the view of the majority or for Jewish practice.

8-9 Mishneh Torah, Foreign Worship and Customs of the Nations 10, 12th century, which can be adventurously spelled as "Hilkkoth Akum" 10:1, says: "Idolaters .... It is forbidden to have mercy upon them, as Deut. 7:2 states: 'Do not be gracious to them.' Accordingly, if we see an idolater being swept away or drowning in the river, we should not help him. If we see that his life is in danger, we should not save him." As in Yoreh De'ah 158, this is not Talmud, is not about goyim but is limited to idolaters (with Jewish idolaters being mentioned separately), and refers only if one's own life would be at risk. Deut. 7:2 is limited to the seven nations in Canaan judged for their idolatry, who were in a state of war with Israel and were not to be shown mercy, so Maimonides extends this to other hypothetical known idolaters.

10 Tur, Choshen Mishpat 388: no match, quote is from Pranaitis, where his original adds that someone has "betrayed Israel three times, or"; he attributes it as 388:10, 15, but paragraph 15 doesn't exist. I hesitate to translate paragraph 11, but it appears to teach that money was (somehow) forbidden to be lost solely due to the accusation of an informer (spy), or to be surrendered to the government three times due solely to an informer, which is a far cry from the interpretation edited from Pranaitis (who says spy, not denunciator) from the medieval text. So, yet again, a reasonable enough dictum is greatly exaggerated by a lost modern chain of commentary.

11 Tur, Choshen Mishpat 266: no match. It does teach the general principle that "finders keepers" sometimes applies when restoring property is impractical, such as for low value without distinct marks where the owner is unlikely to search long, or if hypothetically returning the property would be blasphemous (not "because"). The quoted development must come from a later source. However, another sentence taken from this passage is not an unreasonable paraphrase of the second half of this paragraph: "It is praiseworthy, however, to return lost property if it is done to honor the name of God, namely, if by so doing, Christians will praise the Jews and look upon them as honorable people"; but again, the text does not mention God, Christians, Jews, or honorable. A probably errant modification of Google's translation yields: "If one returned it to him in order to sanctify the name so that Israel will cause pride and they know that they have faith, that is fine."

12 Tur, Yoreh Deah 17, 14th century, does not say "A Jew should and must make a false oath when the goyim ask if our books contain anything against them." This chapter pertains to animal slaughter and seems wholly unrelated. It is likely that a source is intended that would be called part 17 of "She'elot u-Teshuvot, Yoreh Deah", but the first two words mean Q&A or responsa, and could refer to any such book commenting on Yoreh Deah. Attribution of the quote to "Libbre David 37", or to Passover prayers in Pranaitis, appears to be confusion from its repeated close proximity to quotes from those sources. No searches indicate further leads on the original source of this particular quote, but it's clearly not Talmud, although it is close to Bava Kamma 113a.

13 Bava Metzia 114b does not say "The Jews are human beings, but the nations of the world are not human beings but beasts" or "The goyim are not humans. They are beasts." Actual text: "The graves of Gentiles do not render impure, as it is stated: 'And you, My sheep, the sheep of My pasture, are man.' You are called 'man', but Gentiles are not called 'man'." This refers to Ezek. 34:31, where Ezekiel uses the word "man" to refer only to the covenant people, demonstrating to the rabbis that in the passage about graves it is permissible to construe "man" the same limited way and not worry about the possibility of unmarked Gentile graves. This does not speak about humanity but is a use of a narrow definition for practicality. (In English we often use both "the man" and "the men" to mean various socially defined subsets taken from all humans and indicated by context; this is the same.)

14 Shabbat 32b does not say "When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves." Original: "Anyone who is vigilant in ritual fringes merits two thousand eight hundred servants will serve him." This is an imaginative reading of Zech. 8:23 (10 men, 70 nations, 4 fringes) and as such the correct reading is promised to every grafted-in covenant believer. Yalkut Shimoni on Nach. 499, by Simeon ha-Darshan, translated: "Each of Israel will have thousands and thousands of slaves to him."

15 Midrash Talpiot 315 accurately says (my translation): "For the honor of Israel, that the star and constellation worshippers were not created except to serve them day and night, who would not rest from their work, and there is no honor in the son of a king that a beast in the form of a beast should serve him but it is as a beast in the form of a man." Compare copy and translation by Israel Shamir. Page 315 in this edition corresponds to (Rohling) 255 in the Warsaw 1875 edition, later misquoted as 225. This is tamer than the misquote and only has the Akum as beasts metaphorically, "as a beast" in reference to a bestial spirit; not unlike the Christian's view of the unsaved's dead spirit.

16 Avodah Zarah 36b-37a does not say "A Gentile girl who is three years old can be violated." It says: "When a Gentile child impart ritual impurity as ziva? .... Female Gentile child is three years and one day old, since she is fit to intercourse, she also imparts impurity as ziva." This is not about permission, but about when a forbidden act also carries ritual impurity. Abuse of younger children is just as bad, as in Gen. 2:24, but the idiosyncratic ruling was that, if a temple stood, it would not rise to impurity from mature bodily discharge. Making a biological statement into a permission is the perversity here.

17 Mishneh Torah, Kings and Wars 8: It appears the source's alternate name, "Yad Chazakah, Kings, 8:2" became the incomprehensible "Gad. Shas. 2:2" (my own judgment). The text states the contrary: if the possibility occurs in wartime, separation and then marriage must ensue, per. Deut. 21:11: "A soldier may engage in sexual relations with a woman while she is still a Gentile if his natural inclination overcomes him. However, he may not engage in sexual relations with her and then, go on his way. Rather, he must bring her into his home."

18 Sanhedrin 57a, actual quote: "And is a descendant of Noah executed for idol worship? But isn't it taught, 'With regard to idol worship, matters for which a Jewish court executes are prohibited to a descendant of Noah'? Yes, a prohibition, no death." This means idolatry by Jews, judged by Jews, is capital, but among sons of Noah idolatry ought to be prohibited even without a Jewish death penalty applying. I'ts not about murder, nor about a death penalty for murder, but for idolatry. But another quote is also close: "With regard to bloodshed, a Gentile Gentile, or a Gentile a Jew, liable; a Jew a Gentile, exempt. There, how should teach? Should he teach 'prohibited and permitted'? But isn't it taught 'A Gentile ... one may not raise and one may not lower'?" So, since the earlier text (baraita) said "exempt" rather than "permitted", murder (which would "lower" Gentiles) is still not permitted to Jews. Also not in Tosefta Avodah Zarah 8.

19 See #10.

20 Tur, Choshen Mishpat 348 is about theft, but the closest I find, translated by Google, is: "A question to Gaon. Who is suspected of theft and there are no witnesses against him, and there are witnesses against him for another theft before, what is the law against him? Answer: Thus we have seen that there is neither judgment nor flogging for him unless the Torah commands flogging except with two witnesses, but they will judge him by a decree." The imaginative interpretation quoted is not in Pranaitis, so may have come from another route.

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SwampRangers 1 point ago +1 / -0

A standard translation is cited as Sanhedrin 64a, reading literally: "One who gives of his offspring to Molekh is not liable unless he hands over to the Molekh and passes through the fire. He handed over to the Molekh but did not pass through the fire, he passed through the fire but did not hand over to the Molekh, he is not liable, unless he hands over to the Molekh and passes through the fire."

Pretty simple despite the legalese. Since this idolatry is a capital offense by stoning, care is exercised and it is not punished unless the idolater has both action and intent. If he didn't intend to release his child to Molekh, or if he made a statement but didn't act on it, it is not capital.

The Bible speaks in detail about this form of idolatry; historically, in some cases it's actual child sacrifice, in others it's bringing a child across a fire symbolically without killing it. Human sacrifice was rampant throughout the ancient world (and we haven't really eradicated it yet), and so it's natural that the covenant people were repeatedly tempted by forms of it, and this continued after Jesus's death and resurrection.

There are many hair-raising passages, but they can be understood in the cultural context. There are also many flatly false quotations, or telephone-game paraphrases that totally change the original meaning.

It's hard to be sure you've got the whole Talmud. If you've got the Mishnah and the Bavli (Babylonian) and the Yerushalmi (Jerusalem), then you've got everything.

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SwampRangers 2 points ago +2 / -0

Correct, we the covenant people had good mysticism before Egypt corrupted it. For instance, Adam lived 930 years for a reason: to tell us that we'd better make our first 70 count like they were Adam's last.

Everything that is truly true is ours to use. If the person is 100% into Egyptian chaos, focus on the small percentage that is true and draw that out, and the sludge will flush away.

u/CaptainQirk

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SwampRangers 3 points ago +3 / -0

Seems like the deja vu would bite you if you indulged.

The reason they haven't done a VR reset is that Q says it had to be this way. u/bubble_bursts points out that much worse was intended. Remember when draconian climate change in Copenhagen was about to happen, then the leak showed climate change was phony and I think Russia bailed, knocking down all the dominoes? Much evil has been averted, but much good still needs to be done by igniting goodwill.

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SwampRangers 1 point ago +1 / -0

Don't forget. Everyone has ketchup packets in their home, therefore when you are doing epidemological testing for any defined "mystery illness" all you need to do is say 100% of the sick had bad ketchup. KraftHeinz is willing to pay the costs just so you can run the experiment. Whenever a small mystery illness confined to a region of the US has appeared in the ohs or tens, this was prep for the big takeover. Unfortunately for them, the first reset has failed spectacularly and we're gearing up to defeat the second one now.

Yes, Kerry kept the low nine figures from his first marriage and then married into the high nine figures, I was told. Good return on throwing the medals away, if he ever did.

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SwampRangers 3 points ago +3 / -0

u/Nurikee, there is not evidence that he said this in life. It comes from the writings of Arun Gandhi and is a summary of what Mohandas Gandhi taught.

It's almost a Christian thought.

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SwampRangers 1 point ago +1 / -0

Since asked, I'm prepared to say today that we might take the Jubilee (2024) view that pan-Africa has since been subsumed under South Africa, pan-Arabia under Russia, and Japan under New Zealand, allowing BRICS to be the left foot and FVEY the right foot (introducing Australia and Canada). It's at least more up-to-date. Newspaper exegesis might then invite the idea that the three fallen horns become Australia-Mideast, Japan-New-Zealand, and maybe Canada, and that's an excellent reason for not believing in it. Related.

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SwampRangers 1 point ago +1 / -0

Bravo, I skimmed the whole thing. Imagine how many scenarios B's own AI must have been developing interactively in just this way. Ultimately we're in the Lord's hands and he gives each generation what it needs.

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SwampRangers 2 points ago +2 / -0

The misrepresentation and misapplication of the United States federal income tax constitutes the largest acquisition of wealth by way of deception in history.

Absolutely, but that means that, if anyone like Larken Rose widely disseminates a guess as to how to fix it, they go to jail to protect the scheme. Larken was crazy enough that they couldn't get him on a good evasion argument so they claimed to find porn on his computer, by which I think they meant his private photos of his wife.

Larken may be right that 861 is an evidence of the problem, but he makes that his whole argument (literally so often and ubiquitously that he becomes synonymous with "861") and then he acts as if he knows the remedy. I've never known his followers to obtain remedy.

So I say, pay the tax that applies to you. If someone testifies that a tax applies to you when it doesn't, the remedy is that you testify truthfully that it doesn't. Larken doesn't indicate he knows how to do this.

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SwampRangers 1 point ago +1 / -0

OP link echoed: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-11961621/Hidden-Bible-chapter-written-1-500-years-ago-using-UV-light.html

We've been talking about discoveries like this for weeks at c/Christianity. This one has some value because the palimpsest (which is a manuscript, not a person as the article states) is dated to the 3rd century and we don't have other Peshitta going that far back:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Syriac_New_Testament_manuscripts

The data is very breathless, but basically it's just further evidence of the Old Syriac translation of Matt. 11-12 (an area poorly attested so far), and ultimately it's one important puzzle piece more in favor of, well, you pick which translation you like, this one seems to me to favor KJV and NKJV. Among 25,000 pieces.

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SwampRangers 2 points ago +2 / -0

Is that the real Pergamum temple shot, the 3D-printed copy of the exact literal building that Jesus called Satan's dwelling? I think it is! That's what he used for his acceptance speech. Nice photo fren.

It's going to be Biblical!

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SwampRangers 6 points ago +6 / -0

I think that's the decode fren! Paul Pelosi will be tried!

Ooh, another reference, I was thinking of Paul in connection with this. Who was able to get to Paul's house in like 2 minutes? Not the regular cops, only our embeds could do that! Who really arrested Trump? Had to be our embeds in New York! Keep the faith!

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