1
conservatarian 1 point ago +1 / -0

...and before that, kicking God out of everything.

3
conservatarian 3 points ago +3 / -0

I think the key phrase is "if it were possible." Here is more context for those without a Bible handy:

15 “Therefore when you see the ‘abomination of desolation,’ spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place” (whoever reads, let him understand), 16 “then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17 Let him who is on the housetop not go down to take anything out of his house. 18 And let him who is in the field not go back to get his clothes. 19 But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! 20 And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath. 21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the [c]elect’s sake those days will be shortened. 23 “Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘There!’ do not believe it. 24 For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. 25 See, I have told you beforehand. 26 “Therefore if they say to you, ‘Look, He is in the desert!’ do not go out; or ‘Look, He is in the inner rooms!’ do not believe it. 27 For as the lightning comes from the east and flashes to the west, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. 28 For wherever the carcass is, there the eagles will be gathered together.

The MacArthur study bible says this about verse 24:

to deceive, if possible, even the elect. This clearly implies that such deception is not possible (John 10:4, 5).

The ESV Reformation Study Bible says:

if possible. Although the false prophets try to deceive the elect, there is no real possibility that they will succeed. God will keep the elect secure in His love (Rom. 8:31–39; cf. John 10:28, 29). See “Perseverance of the Saints”at Rom. 8:30.

The King James Study Bible says:

The phrase if it were possible . . . shall deceive the very elect clearly indicates that those who have been truly saved cannot be deceived and fall away. For even if it were humanly possible, the Lord will stop it by hastening His coming.

John 10:1-6:

Most assuredly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the door, but climbs up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. 2 But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. 3 To him the doorkeeper opens, and the sheep hear his voice; and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. 4 And when he brings out his own sheep, he goes before them; and the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. 5 Yet they will by no means follow a stranger, but will flee from him, for they do not know the voice of strangers.” 6 Jesus used this illustration, but they did not understand the things which He spoke to them.

1
conservatarian 1 point ago +1 / -0

Name a thing more important than to spread the gospel. Do you believe the only people the gospel works on are those who are already saved? Why would you wish for God to be excluded from anything at all? Haven't we allowed too much of that already?

1
conservatarian 1 point ago +1 / -0

Hippocratic oath means absolutely NOTHING to some (many? most?) of these people.

2
conservatarian 2 points ago +2 / -0

Apparently if you clear your callsign it either broadcasts ANON in its place or receivers substitute the empty value with ANON. They were GTMO844 probably until they landed moments before this screenshot.

It's nothing.

2
conservatarian 2 points ago +2 / -0

How many times does he have to order them off his property? They are such NPCs, they don't understand the simplest of things.

2
conservatarian 2 points ago +2 / -0

Someone please put shitpost flair on. This is too close to reality and we'll be there in months if not weeks, but we aren't there yet (or so it seems, but that may be wishful thinking).

2
conservatarian 2 points ago +2 / -0

Why is this stickied?

1
conservatarian 1 point ago +1 / -0

Rumsfeld's assertion seems reasonably accurate.

https://dailycaller.com/2021/08/21/biden-circa-1975-argued-against-evacuating-vietnamese-refugees/

When the North Vietnamese marched on Saigon in 1975, thousands of South Vietnamese citizens — many of whom had connections to the U.S. — asked for assistance in leaving the country. [...] Then President Gerald Ford called on Congress to authorize funds to evacuate 2,500 American citizens and their families along with about 175,000 refugees — and Democratic Delaware Sen. Joe Biden was one of the loudest voices in opposition, according to The Atlantic. In an April 14, 1975, meeting between the president and the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Biden said, “I feel put upon in being presented an all-or-nothing number. I will vote for any amount for getting the Americans out. I don’t want it mixed with getting the Vietnamese out.” Ford pushed back, arguing that “our tradition is to welcome the oppressed.”

“I do not believe the United States has an obligation, moral or otherwise, to evacuate foreign nationals,” a young Sen. Joe Biden said in 1975.

Biden repeated his position in remarks a week later. “The United States has no obligation to evacuate one, or 100,001, South Vietnamese.”

I believe the Vietnamese that Ford (and others) most wanted to rescue were anti-communist, pro-American collaborators.

More: https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2021/08/17/youll-never-guess-who-was-also-involved-in-the-1975-debacle-in-saigon-n428530

2
conservatarian 2 points ago +2 / -0

#8 FYI, data cited is from May 11 - three and a half months ago.

1
conservatarian 1 point ago +1 / -0

Xiden revealing identities of operatives/officials? Gee, he's never done THAT before 🙄

1
conservatarian 1 point ago +1 / -0

Xiden revealing identities of operatives/officials? Gee, he's never done THAT before 🙄

view more: ‹ Prev Next ›