Alright, we have to talk about this, frens. Please spend just a few minutes browsing Thomas Wictor’s posts over at this QuodVerum place.
I haven’t made time figuring out how to use that place yet, and I haven’t registered for an account - yet - but I will. Lots of very sharp people there, such as Rex, Duane & Brian Cates, and more.
Just an FYI: it seems that posts appear in reverse order, so you often have to read from the bottom up. Strange. Anyway....
I’ve known of Wictor for years. I have watched him get deplatformed from twitter and various other places - surprisingly, he still has an active YouTube Channel. I’ll cut to the chase & be brutally honest with my frens; I respect Wictor greatly and think he is very, VERY sharp, but I think he’s quite....crusty. Curmudgeonly. Gruff. To put it mildly. He’s got absolutely zero tolerance nor patience for fools - which is great - but pay careful attention to how he talks about Q & Anons. He absolutely, completely hates us and heaps a massive amount of blame on US for the way things are right now.
In particular, he seems to blame us for the whole Jan. 6 Capitol fiasco, in addition to blaming us for Trump getting banned from twitter.
(Post below) This makes zero sense, since anyone with 10% of the intelligence of Wictor knows that Jan 6 was a false flag and antifa / BLM / communists were 100% behind the Capitol false flag event.
Just look at wictor’s words & what he says; it seems that anons and Wictor are saying the exact same thing; Trump is a master strategist who has a grand master plan he is about to unveil to save the republic and defeat our enemy. We are both saying the exact same thing, yet Wictor calls us 5 year old, reckless children idiots.
I mean; just look at this post of his, copied verbatim:
The Q-anon idiots who were led like children into the Democrats' trap had no faith in Trump. So they decided to do something totally insane. They worked themselves up into a frenzy and very nearly screwed the entire country. THEY were the ones who got Trump deplatformed. Don't ever defend them to me, because I'll tear you a new you-know-what. I told you to trust Trump, you didn't, and look where we are now. Luckily Trump is the man I always said he is. He saved our bacon again.
:::::::::::: What I’m asking is;
*A) What’s the label for this phenomenon where we are both saying the same thing, yet Wictor insists on calling us enemies and morons? *B) What is Wictor saying Trump is going to do that is substantively different from what Q and Anons believe and say?
I’m confused.
ETA1: I have been spending more and more time reading over there at QuodVerum and it really is a remarkable place. It is very reassuring to see so many obviously brilliant people who believe so firmly in Trump, in the people he has carefully surrounded himself with, and who believe, as we do, in the existence of a grand master plan / strategy.
I’m not certain, but I’d wager a guess that, as with Wictor, many of the other people on QV have similarly dim views of Q & Anons. Again; I’m just flummoxed by this, since we are saying almost the exact same thing, verbatim. Can anyone shed light?
Thanks!
WWG1WGA
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ETA2: My first sticky??? Holy crap!! I’m flattered & honored!!! Thanks anons!!
WWG1WGA!!!
:::::::::: ETA3: Just to be perfectly crystal clear, because I’m terrified of getting on wictor’s bad side (not really, exaggerating LLMAO); this is NOT in any way intended to be negative, attack, disparagement; NOTHING OF HTE SORT at Wictor nor anyone at QV. To the contrary; I do have a ton of respect for men like Wictor & most everyone at QuodVerum and I’m the last person in the world to ask to have my hand held and ass kissed.
This post is purely to ascertain how Anons and Wictor can be saying the exactly same thing; Trump is a master strategist with a grand plan to save America and the world; yet Wictor viciously attacks us as not merely wrong nor misguided, but he claims we OUTRIGHT HANDICAP POTUS Trump.
Anyway; NOT an attack on Wictor, just in case this gets too popular.
Calculated disinformation...this is psychological warfare. If you're confused, so is the enemy
I like his videos, but he was DEAD WRONG about so many things. He said that Chris Krebs and CISA were going to expose the election fraud. Then Krebs called the election the most secure in history and got fired.
Trump said, "It's going to be a great year" before 2020 was complete. Just from that line, Wictor thought that the election fraud hard proof would come out before the end of 2020. WRONG.
He then said that this would all be fixed on January 6. It wasn't.
When he gets mad, it's usually because people call him out for being wrong. He never addresses his false predictions. He says he shut his YouTube channel down because of "idiots" and "death threats" but that's a lie. He shut it down to save face.
Trump specifically asked us to go to D.C. on January 6 and yet he blames Trump supporters for doing just that. He makes no sense. Most of the million+ people who went there had nothing to do with what happened at the capitol building.
He is jealous of Q. He wants to be the only one who can see these things. It all comes down to ENVY. He doesn't like it that normal people can follow Q and know everything. He wants to be a gatekeeper for all this information.
Gatekeeper - YES!!!!
THAT is it....THAT perfectly describes what I see in Wictor.... perfect.
I didn’t know that Wictor has been wrong on so many occasions, but I believe you. I’ll go back & check for myself.
Interdasting......
EXCELLENT post, fren. ????
Ditto this comment. I still watch Wictor because he can be interesting. But he is a head case and has ego issues.
MAJOR ego issues, 100%......
I am also over there and I concur with this read. Given the level of strategy he sees in trump, and given that antifa has been openly planning false flags as trump supporters, the idea that trump was caught off guard by a false flag after inviting 3 million people to show up to a protest is absolutely bonkers.
I actually think he expected it and infiltrated the false flag.
It's playing right into his hands in locking down DC which also seems to be part of the plan.
I agree with much of wictor's viewpoint but his hatred of Q is irrational. I'm not sure I understand the goal of the Q psyop completely but the mantra is trust the plan... Which is also wictor's mantra! It's crazy.
Wictor seems to think the Congress is going to reverse the certification at the last minute.. I disagree and think the military will be involved, maybe an emergency interregnum. But I do think trump will ultimately prevail.
Agree. I like Wictor and he is clearly very knowledgeable about certain things, but he's too inflexible and dismissive of other opinions. As are the Cates brothers. They are all one way communicators, and "jealous gatekeeper" is a perfect description. As such, they should only be taken as one set of inputs to consider alongside others.
Yeah and they accept donations, at least the one cates brother does. Like I'll pay for his opinion? why would I do that when I've got mine for free?
Wictor is amusing. And is right about Trump about as often as anyone else.
Wictor looks for an excuse to show off his military history knowledge. Before you know it you’ve watched 10 minutes of video and his exposition about flamethrowers and tanks in various military strategies. lol
Wictor's military history knowledge is very good, and very interesting. Unfortunately it makes him think he has everything figured out and you are an idiot if you disagree on the smallest of things.
Quite like a whole lot of posters on this board, actually.
they are embarrasing lol
Krebs might be a double agent.
A witness is more credible if it's assumed that they are working for the enemy.
You might be right. I’ve been thinking this for a while that I bet Trump has someone if not many people acting as double agents.
Plus the DS all has dirt so they can blackmail each other. So if Trump figures out what it is he can ‘whitemail’ them into becoming an informant or wearing a wire in exchange for a life sentence vs the death penalty.
It would explain why there haven’t been any significant arrests. Why arrest them now when you can use them to your advantage to go after the big fish?
Well, I can totally rationalize that viewpoint too. Thank you for the input.
Wictor is prob just like Alex Jones. Tells 90% truth but keeps the real secrets hidden.
Jones is the Guardian of the Triple Parentheses (((.....)))
EXACTLY!!!!
Didn't Q out Alex Jones as mossad?
SAD!
I've always gotten a weird vibe from AJ..... I mean; who doesn't!? Guy is looney tunes.
Yes he occasionally drops some nuggets, but who doesn't.
He doesnt pretend to have inside info
GTFO
Loll "Q-anon" idiots as he calls us know better than to be at that Capitol doing what Antifa and BLM did.
If any part of the Trump base knew not to go and commit crimes during that event it was us. GTFO with that bullshit.
Hard to disagree with this and Wictor understands it for sure.
i'm gonna go with possible disinfo, fog of war coming from Wictor.
I think the larpy and oracle-ish nature of Q posts drives him nuts. But that doesn't justify his hatred of Q and attacking the Qtards as being harmful. It was a false flag FFS. And his whole mantra is "trust the plan"... Which is exactly what Q says.
I read his stuff because it's pretty good analysis but I guess don't talk to him about Q :)
Exactly!!
If anything they should be blaming TDW, but the OBJECTIVE FACT is it was a FALSE FLAG BY BLM/ANTIFA/CCP!!!! WTF? Why does Wictor hate us?
seriously what a short-sighted a hole
Follow the link & browse thru his “toots” for yourself; he seems pretty broad in painting ALL Q followers as deranged, psychotic, dangerous lunatics, responsible for handicapping POTUS Trump. Zero sense.
And that's the worst part & what I understand LEAST of all; how the FUCK is Q "Handicapping" POTUS????
WTAF??
Did anyone think that? I thought that antifa was starting shit, the cops invited them in, and then some people farther in the back, who probably had no idea what was going on, just followed them in?
He's alright. Just an old man set in this ways. He has experience in the field.
For the most part I like Wictor but if he thinks he people storming the Capitol or getting Trump de-platformed are Q-Anon fans he's out of touch. Typical old-curmudgeon stuff like thinking Pink Floyd is a rapper and Nicki Minaj is a punk rock band. "Look at the guy wearing furs and horns with a Q-sign. This must be the Q-anon fans. What idiots!"
He definitely is a bit out of touch. He's a self proclaimed hermit that doesn't like being around anyone. But when it comes to military analysis he's pretty damn good. Gotta take the good with the bad.
The path to truth is multi-laned.
Some people see their path is the right way, perhaps the only way.
It means nothing to me how you arrived at the truth as long as you did.
He is angry at the people who should have spotted the op and not participated. He is correct that those tourists were the excuse the media used, the antifa types are not blamed. He is very smart but rude.
Yes, he is very rude.
Flat out rude.
And as another Anon pointed out in here; it’s because he fancies himself a Gatekeeper of all information.
It's more about the media portrayal and of course antifa was invited right in. Left wing protesters have entered that complex several times in the last 4 years and been heaped with praise. They could have figured out it was an op and refrained from joining, but of course for the most part all they did was walk in to a building normally open to the public.
I'll bet that as angry mobs go that are infiltrated with communist agitators, this was probably the least destructive such case in all of history.
Helleeeewww. =:0)
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Kek! ?
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He’s so quirky LMAO
Wasn’t the purpose of Q to bring people together and have a great awakening as a public? I am always VERY skeptical of people who rise to reputation ranks and then shun the others. That’s the kind of thinking in government that got us into this mess in the first place...along with all the disgusting illegal & evil stuff. I will stick to the boards and 8kun.
Yes, Exactly!! And IMO; I believe Q has, among many other things, been an objective and overwhelming success in bringing together people from literally all around the world; from every social class and station in life.
I’m fond of posting the below anytime stuff like this comes up, because to me it perfectly captures the true essence of the Q Movement.
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I'm pretty sure this is NOT actually a Q Drop; it's signed "R" and I do not believe it’s ever been presented as a Q Drop.
Need to research to see what Anons say about who this could be.
BUT.....to me; it perfectly summarizes the Q movement and values.
I think I snagged it off of faceberg; hence the links at bottom.
The links at bottom, I also snagged at the same time as this post. I’m OCD about capturing sources for stuff like this. I think the links are broken, but at the time, they weren’t.
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In 1909, we lost everything.
My father caught on.
1st to the Bilderbergs, then he caught on the NASA.
He demanded to know who the grey's were and why they were here.
They killed him.
I strategically staged my own death, allied with the one person in this world whom I knew was honorable enough to trust, and we began to build "The Plan."
Penance is coming.
Regardless of what you think, you are not yet awake.
You do not know how deep this goes.
If you knew, you could not sleep.
Many of you could never go on.
You need each other.
You need every ONE of you.
Learn to play nice with each other or be left behind.
If one stumbles, pick them up.
If one asks a question, give them the answer.
That is how we grow.
There's no more room in the plan for arrogance and self importance.
If you turn ONE away, you've hurt the plan.
If you hurt the plan, you'll be left behind.
We are watching.
We see it all.
There are no secrets.
You would never believe the files kept on everyone of you, for that matter, you'd never believe WHERE they are kept.
Prepare for the next phase.
Prepare each other.
You are one.
And…
WWG1WGA.
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Some people get pissed off when they receive new information that doesn't fit their previous narrative. Even if he is on the good side he is limited by his own mind.
Oh, this is 100% true.
Again; Wictor is very brilliant, but he is absolutely, 100% one of those people who, when HE has his mind made up, when HE has arrived at a conclusion, That. Is. It.
He is absolutely one of those people that; when HE has made up his mind; There shall be NO questioning, NO discussion, NO debate, and if you ask him to explain himself to you, then you are a fucking lunatic, “mentally slothful” (to use his words) moron. ?
Look; I’m rock-solid firm in my convictions and beliefs, but I will always at least LISTEN to almost any other viewpoint, AND I regularly question myself & my beliefs.
Not Wictor.
Kinda dangerous and NOT smart of him to do, IMHO.....
Thanks!
Spot on
Thanks!
Also, a lot of people on the Internet who have held themselves up as gatekeepers, with their “secret documents” and “military intelligence insiders”, are extremely resistant to Q, since the Q drops are a kind of DECLAS that makes them irrelevant. How do you pretend to be a gatekeeper for publicly available information? There is no “extra secret Q drop that Q emailed directly to Alex Jones” that InfoWars is able to tease out to their audience. And as soon as one of them tried to do that, they would look stupid. So instead they went the other way, and maintained themselves as the gatekeepers of the truth of Q. Now it was “forget” about Q” because they had all the “secret documents” and “military intelligence insiders” to tell you that Q is fake. “Ignore Q,” they said. “We have our own insider named Zak. Zak is way better than Q, and only they have Zak’s secrets. So tune in and buy those boner pills if you want to hear all the secrets straight from the mouth of Alex Jones from the mouth of Zak.”
Wictor doesn’t seem like such a bad guy but his ego is obviously enormous, and then at the same time he is wildly insecure. Q removes a lot of his authority as a gatekeeper and suddenly he is just kind of another guy like the rest of us.
Great point!!
I've been a Wictor fan for years. Here's my take. The problem is when you lump everyone together into a group and label them all the same. His beef is with the unthinking, crazy, retarded people. They exist in the Q community, TDW, twitter, fakebook, your place of work, your own family etc. What makes this difficult for him is that conspiracy theorists, including Q (based on anon) attract more people like this than other regular groups. He's spelled it out for a while now, see his rambling on the Ohio mass shooter kid, or his "your guns don't mean shit" diatribes. Let's face it, who cares what he thinks of us as a group? We're individuals, and this movement needs people that don't believe to distance themselves from us, so they can talk freely without the Q label. What is telling, LOL, is that the OP is right, WE'VE BOTH REACHED THE SAME CONCLUSIONS! I love and know Trump like Wictor does, and the doomers are just fucking retarded to me, they can't research or draw accurate conclusions. See TDW and their tribal ways, it's always the same. I love TDW and here though. Just be autonomous, and stop worrying about all the things we disagree on and covet the things we do!
You can tell a lot about people from first impressions. I went to the the page you linked and see a guy on the ground reverse-planking a chair, and his bio quote is "hermit with a heart of lead".
This guy is a doomer, withdrawn, and has an ego complex centered around being different and superior from "the masses".
He might sound smart to you, but egotistical midwits usually sound convincingly smart.
I would take everything he says with a heaping spoonful of salt.
How the fuck anyone can say that when 9/11 was less than 19 years ago is beyond me
This person said that? I think the mid level brain thing applies here. Think how many thought Obama was brilliant. You'd hear him sould wise and his wit was supposedly sharp until you actually took apart what he said.
The "sanctity" of the Capitol which has been shot up by terrorists (bullet holes in house chamber still), used as a hospital during the civil war, bombed by Obama friend Bill and generally been the scene of energetic protests since it opened its doors. Great men and evil men have laid in the rotunda. It is not a sacred building. A democracy?
13 Reasons Why People Put Others Down
This platform is the best, hands down. The site itself has turned into voat. This community is right on the ball as well as the Mods. Information is shared and analyzed at an incredible pace and mis/disinformation is immediatly called out by the people thus getting the real info out as quick as possible. Granted, you have to sift thru the over anxious Qtards who want to believe everything but hey, we were all there once right? This sites gonna get real active soon as events unfold and I'm not going anywhere else.
Can’t answer your question about what it’s called but I find it strange that anyone would blame an entire movement with probably 100M people on the actions of how many patriots that got caught up in the events on that day? Maybe 60? I don’t know how many people entered the Capitol. Most were Antifa and 100% Antifa doing the damage. Is he trying to piss off patriots? Is it some sort of psychological mind trick? Is he just very intelligent and also insane? Who knows.
I have no clue either, fren.
The Q Movement is way, WAY larger than merely 100 million.
Not sure how long you’ve been part of us, but Q is an objectively GLOBAL movement and has been for quite some time.
It is literally worldwide!!!!!!
I’d estimate easily 250 million anons around the world at LEAST.
I was referring to the US but I’ve followed “loosely” Q since the beginning. Yes I realize this movement is worldwide. I Should have clarified.
No worries whatsoever. :-)
Right there with you, was having the same thoughts when I read his most recent, but you worded it way better than I'd have been able to. I am going to guess/hope it's a fog of war thing? Maybe he needs to publicly discredit Q for optics?
Optics for whom?
People who might find him credible but think Q is wackadoo
I'm not familiar with Wictor at all, but this smells like disinformation to me.
If he's a great supporter of President Trump but professes to hate Q, then he can pick up that portion of Trump supporters who have swallowed the Q-hate-koolaid and keep them engaged and not despondent.
Fog of war...
I have a good amount of respect for all mentioned in this post. Some of them have studied military history and tactics for years. They are a good source of information. They also understand operational security (OPSEC) and usually apply it to their writings and musings so not to inadvertently leak potentially damaging information. In my opinion what we are seeing in recent days is a full blown attack on the legitimacy of Q for this purpose. To throw bad actors off the scent. It seems as though everyone is talking about Q at the moment which could be damaging to the plan at this critical stage. So disinformation is necessary and needed.
They are just dumb old men man and hes wrong a lot.
Wait, holy shit - did I get stickied???
I’m so flattered!!!!
My first one!!
Thanks, Anons!!!!
WWG1WGA
He's retarded. He believed there was Russian collusion in the Trump campaign. He blocked me on Twitter because he didn't like the truth.
Intelligence isn't on a 1- dimensional sliding scale, so it possible for him to seem smart in some respects, but in others he isn't.
This is the dumbass that said Christopher Krebs was going to save the election and reveal the sting operation. I started watching Krebs twitter after that, and saw he wss just another DS operative.
Anybody can take conspiracy info and build a schtick out of it. The noobs will think it's awesome, not knowing the decades of work that's gone on before.
I read that differently than you, although admittedly I don't know the author. I don't think that matters, if you consider the words, on their face, at best there is more than one way to read it. People claimed Trumps speech on 1/7 was a concession speech, but that's not what he actual said.
Here's how I read it.
The "Q-anon idiots" (People who doubt Q and the anons (are idiots)) who were led like children into the Democrats' trap (CPP/ mockingbird/ false narrative) had no faith in Trump (those who fell into the Dems trap e.g. Lefties, hate Trump).
They (those who fell into Dem's trap, the Lefties) worked themselves up into a frenzy and very nearly screwed the entire country (not qualified, doesn't say Capitol ... it certainly can mean burning cities across the country)
THEY (the lefties who fell into Dems trap, hate trump). were the ones who got Trump deplatformed (by empowering and emboldening their suppressors)
The rest speaks for itself.
Of course, that is only my opinion.
I was following him back on YouTube before he stopped making videos. He has been slowly hating the Q movement more and more. Every time a viewer would bring up Q and how they both are coming to similar conclusions, he would get more and more upset that people would even DREAM that someone else could have predicted what he’s talking about.
Maybe he takes it as an accusation of plagiarism. Or maybe he thinks he’s the arbiter of truth and no one else has the intelligence to match his.
Hmmm, very interesting, I’ll have to check him out, we’re in the homestretch now.
I'm starting to believe it was mostly an act and some Antifa were allowed in to allow them to do what they wanted to do... How else could Trump get his hands on those laptops other than to make it look like the capitol was being stormed? The police clearly opened the door and welcomed them all in. He knew CNN would look at this event and run with it thus justifying his use of setting up a PRISON around the capitol building. How could he have done that without that event happening? Did he just get lucky? C'mon, man! LOL I say all this to express that yes, Trump is a genius and Thomas knows this... But I think even Thomas as well as many of us, got played by Trump's genius here... It's not like Trump doesn't have a history in TV.
For years now, there has been a very long record of leftists attacking every long-scheduled Trump event. From rallies to protests, public speeches to parades.
If your response to this is to never do anything, then you are handing victory on a silver platter to them. Cant do it. Action at the capital was the same. Digital soldiers are not digital window dressing, or digital observers, or digital speed-bumps.
The best and brightest would be using only disinformation at this point. That’s what I would be doing.
He believes the media narrative about Q. That's about it. A long time ago he read the chan boards and it pissed him off because well, it's full of cunts. People periodically post Q stuff and him and Saul lash out but if you remove the "Q", it's exactly what he's been saying... albeit, 3 years after Q.
He has helped me get through this he even led me to Q through his inactivity and the shut down of Parler
I've asked this before:
Did Thomas Wictor even exist before Q?
Simple. There are tards in every group. Libtards, qtards, flat earth conspiracy tards, etc...
Don’t be offended by words if the message is not meant for you. Are you a qtard or a critical thinker.
Sleeping with the enemy, so to speak...With all the attacks and hit pieces against Q, the sheep immediately see Q as a warning and RUN sign...Wictor is a genius and is playing his part just like Roseanne Barr...