The argument is that obviously the pictures are all photoshopped. These people literally can't see the truth even when it's right in their faces. I sometimes honestly feel like I'm going insane trying to reason with people who are so obviously unreasonable. It hurts my brain.
Yo, I totally agree. Any argument and evidence provided to them will lead to nothing. I tried multiple times to convince my friends, but I decided to give 0 poop. They accept the truth, good for them. They decide to ignore, who cares. Just proves how stupid and ignorant they are.
Progressiveness is the spawn of satan. People who follow that ideology are capable of justifying anything.
If you can twist your morality to justify aborting babies, you can eventually twist your morality into justifying molesting kids and exterminating political enemies.
I've talked to several brainwashed leftists who were fine with criticizing Obama. For example, when I brought up all the bombs Obama dropped on 7 moslem countries (1 bomb dropped every 24 minutes), they readily agreed that Obama did bad things. However, they did it within the context of a 'Orange man bad' point of view, i.e. their TDS was so all-consuming that they would happily throw any democrat under the bus if it was necessary to maintain their TDS.
Obama is no longer as worshipped as he used to be, because the shills put all of their effort into 'Orange man bad' brainwashing, rather than Obama damage limitation propaganda.
You nailed it! I have seen the exact same thing with my inlaws for years but now my friends, 100% Trump supporters, suddenly believe the msm too. Keep the Faith!
As someone who now understands the issue against abortion in a way i never could before, I have to say, in defense of those who do support it, that I had never encountered a proper conversation or perspective on why it is wrong - instead I grew up washed in awareness of the difficulties and suffering people can face when having unwanted children and I just wanted to try and help with that. The person that really solidified it for me was actually Louis CK, where he explained that one side genuinely sees it as, if you need an abortion, you better get one - the way you would take better take a dump if you need one - and the other sees it as literally killing babies. The more I thought about it, the more I realised that I saw it as actually killing babies, but no-one in my life has ever had that conversation with me, even now, and I don't think I'm alone...
I agree about progressiveness by the way. I think deep down it is driven by the passion of resentment and dissatisfaction and is of the devil. But there are many honestly good people caught up in it, and its really important to realise that they are being completely cut off from one whole side of the conversation - it is not that they have heard the case against progressivism and rejected it, they have been fooled into thinking they've heard the case against it when in fact they've been given a carefully constructed weak presentation of it.
The problem is their justification for it stems from "it's just a clump of cells".
Very early on, of course that's true -- and we as a society haven't agreed exactly when an unborn baby is considered as having a soul, which complicates things on a certain level too.
The best middle ground is up to first heartbeat, but you have people on both sides ready to loudly yell that that isn't far enough their way so conversation doesn't go anywhere and meaningful change isn't made.
And I guess that's part of the problem. The uniparty deep state has pitted us so thoroughly against each other that it has to be one way or the other way, and only my way is the right way. We don't get true non-partisan or bipartisanship anymore. We don't genuinely work together because we hate each other's values.
We can't even come together under love of country anymore.
It's actually really upsetting if you get deep into it.
The only points of reference I can think of is how Islam and Judaism approach abortion and the issue of human soul. Very generally both agree to 40 days from conception, although some Islamic views permit it up until 120 days.
I think the biggest clue is how women feel and act when they have an early miscarriage - that tells us what we know in our hearts - that this was the hope and beginning of a baby, whatever we might tell ourselves to justify an action we wanted or needed to take. Its all really really sad, and the most important thing is not to let it foster hate :(
We're essentially the only species that self police. If gorillas, bears, or pandas eat their young it is nature, but with people we call it murder.. A soul is a social construct to someone who doesn't believe it exists. That's the real issue: strictly biologically there is nothing wrong with abortion. You have to convince people to believe in the social construct, whether it be because of religion or ethics.
I'm in the minority and don't feel government should legislate biological processes. Without abortion, poverty and crime would be several times worse. I can't imagine what the end phenomena is. If a drug addicted prostitute doesn't abort, the child's only actual chance at a serviceable life is adoption.
Rich, white couples with fertility issues would usually rather spend a few hundred thousand dollars on IVF to have their own children instead of adopting. Tell me how that is noble? You literally have to kill embryos multiple times to get one to stick and survive.
Remember PedoJo's gift of a "charm" bracelet for Hussein? Lots of swirls and triangles that symbolize their shared interests. It seems the rumors might be possible: PedoJo is on Hunter's laptop. That would look good in SCOTUS.
The same is true with the UN. The UN has a terrible record of abuse. But it does not matter, the end justifies the means. If their bid for the presidency requires a Traitor and a Deviant, who cares, actually all the better to control my dear.
"Everyone is familiar with the term, “the ends justify the means,” however, the disturbing reality of the mentality behind it goes unnoticed. Saul Alinsky describes it best in Rules for Radicals by describing means and ends morality. As far as the left is concerned, preventing yourself from doing what is necessary for the greater good is an act of selfishness. People who are more concerned with their own salvation, as Alinsky states, care not for the good of humanity because they are not willing to corrupt themselves in pursuit of a better world. In a twisted sort of way then, no morality becomes a higher form of morality. Those who are willing to corrupt their own soul are of a higher virtue. The good of humanity is of greater importance to them than their own well-being. This means that they are willing to lie, cheat, steal and even kill to achieve their ends. The ends after all, justify the means. Alinsky mocked those who lacked the willingness to corrupt themselves. He referred to them as means and ends moralists. People who refused to take any action at all out of fear of going against their misguided views of morality. In some cases, Alinsky was right. He referred to the passivity of the Germans who willingly sat back knowing their country was systematically eliminating an entire race of people as means and moralists. In this case however, fighting for what is right is not necessarily corrupting yourself. Doing what is necessary to defeat evil is hardly corrupting. What it boils down to then, is who is defining what is right."
from this article: I don't agree with all of this article but the above excerpt is extraordinarily perceptive and worthy of understanding.
Since those with an aversion to the truth are largely followers of MSM , It seems reasonable that the only way to red pill them is to expose completely each distribution platform of the MSM. TV shows, entertainment, news, kids programming, magazines, newspapers, digital media, the talking heads, and all that perpetuate the fraud. Investigation into the 4am memos, the funders, the schools from which they come, their social circles, everything. Let those who think they can trust everything from the altar of MSM see and hear it all each day, every day. A Court TV show that runs 7 days a weeks exposing the people who craft the narratives so many Americans buy into.
I think a lot of people have a hard time understanding why a crusader against child abuse would be posting on a sickening website like 8kun which, if it doesn't have outright child pornography on it, still has a great deal of child porn-adjacent material, like an entire section dedicated to "adult baby/diaper lovers."
I've seen several of these pictures and at no point could you identify Hunter and the one with his face visible could have easily been a consenting 18+ woman.
I'm so tired of seeing this screeched on Q boards. It's just not provable. It isn't evidence of anything. This is why people don't take us seriously.
It was a child. Also the one where he is with a child she looks about 8 and she is wearing red bra and panties with clownish with her face made up. They are on Gab
LOL an adult Asian woman, must have been a dwarf then the head is far too small for an adult, even an Asian one. Faces have makeup on but they are kids.
The second pic came from the same set of pics from the laptop, and if you have seen Hunter in the dressing gown - with his head- you'll see the headless guy has the same body including the exact same gut. as the nekkid pics of him in another sets.
There were also worse ones on the chans that were taken down quickly because they are child porn, but people were still discussing. I think some might even have been released on Parler shortly before went offline but I never saw those - I did see the one of the child allegedly from the Anthony Weiner laptop.
BTW don't take this the wrong way, but are you new to this? It is just that you seem to be struggling at the idea Hunter could have this stuff on his laptop. If you had been in this for a while you would know it is par for the course.
Even before Q once the wikileaks dropped on the pizzagate stuff, and then the whole spirit cooking thing, it was known what these sick bastards were up to.
Remember when Anons were digging and the info came out on the Epstein tunnels, and the security pics from RCs instagram, a quick selection of pics to remind you - these are just a few - https://operationq.pub/?q=rachel+chandler (I still think Channel 11 is Hillary, but some have said the posture looks more like Bette Midler. Possible. Take a good hard look at Channel 10)
Even if it were not pedo stuff on his laptop, it makes Joe a blackmail target, but the info Miles Gu dropped shows that the Chinese have all the info that is on Hunters laptop and there is definitely kiddie stuff on there.
Bro, I'm not new. I've been on the chans since before Pizzagate.
I was saying there is NO WAY the pictures we saw can be verified. Unverified bullshit is the reason no one takes us seriously and this movement can't grow bigger than it has.
Making claims with zero evidence is not a good look.
"That's definitely Hunter!" Okay prove it. "I...can't!" OOOOOOOKAY
The images are disturbing, yes, but that's because I'm not a pervert. The one with Hunter and the Asian appearing woman was so lacking in detail that there is no way to tell if its a young girl or small woman. Calling it a young girl when it could clearly be a woman is not good for the movement. Too much bullshit is pushed around here.
This board is talking about a few specific pictures that most of us have seen over the last two months. Those are the pictures I'm talking about. My original statement remains.
I would also like to know the answer to this. To me the level of depravity that Hunter is being accused of goes way beyond sleeping with prostitutes (dodgy, but not that uncommon) and taking drugs (dodgy, but again not that uncommon and most of us know people who do). Are there pictures of him naked or exposing himself with kids? And what do we mean by kids? I am honestly asking because it is really difficult for me to get my head around something like this and I need a way higher standard of evidence than often does the rounds without being seriously challenged. Are we talking,evidence that if it was in court would be sufficient to convict him and what would the charges be? I appreciate anyone who can take the time to answer this, as I appreciate it may be frustrating if you are already convinced.
Pretty sure it boils down to the drama surrounding the unique type of relationship Hunter had with Natalie. There are text messages that support that there was impropriety.. but it could be family drama mudslinging. I know of no definitive proof that was released.. the closest being the suggestion of Hunter being undressed or similar while web cam chatting with Natalie. Other evidence was very suggestive text message implying a romantic relationship developing between the two.
Yep - it's inconceivable to me that people do stuff like this, even though some part of my brain knows that they do. But like most people I've led a protected life and it is almost impossible for me to get my head around people doing something so terrible. It's like a serious paradigm shift that is needed for me to truly believe that the corruption goes beyond normal "power corrupts" stuff and into actual depravity. I listened to Lin woods conference call ambush today, and I have to say, that guy is bloody convincing when you hear him talk... I believe that he believes what he's saying.
I have seen one picture of what looks like a young girl (8-10 maybe) wrapped around a pole with her face in his bare chest. There are needles and what appears to be cocaine too. I downloaded the pic to my phone to show my libtard friends to try get them to open their eyes. I would upload it but I don’t think people really need to see that. It’s truly disturbing.
Nope, that’s retarded. You give .00001% of a thought to Q, have to go on a board and express yourself. You’re damn well not helping destroy Q. You’re retarded.
Another handshake shill-tard. LOL Just like the old days in VOAT. There is another handshake shill below asking what "does handshake mean". LOL These shill-tards are stupid.
The argument is that obviously the pictures are all photoshopped. These people literally can't see the truth even when it's right in their faces. I sometimes honestly feel like I'm going insane trying to reason with people who are so obviously unreasonable. It hurts my brain.
Sounds like sociopaths
You are trying to reason with a spiritual problem, these people are blind spiritually by dark forces.
Yo, I totally agree. Any argument and evidence provided to them will lead to nothing. I tried multiple times to convince my friends, but I decided to give 0 poop. They accept the truth, good for them. They decide to ignore, who cares. Just proves how stupid and ignorant they are.
Progressiveness is the spawn of satan. People who follow that ideology are capable of justifying anything.
If you can twist your morality to justify aborting babies, you can eventually twist your morality into justifying molesting kids and exterminating political enemies.
Show them the "All for a fucking flag?" video of Obummer and Mikelle. Perhaps they might realise those two are far from patriotic.
I've talked to several brainwashed leftists who were fine with criticizing Obama. For example, when I brought up all the bombs Obama dropped on 7 moslem countries (1 bomb dropped every 24 minutes), they readily agreed that Obama did bad things. However, they did it within the context of a 'Orange man bad' point of view, i.e. their TDS was so all-consuming that they would happily throw any democrat under the bus if it was necessary to maintain their TDS.
Obama is no longer as worshipped as he used to be, because the shills put all of their effort into 'Orange man bad' brainwashing, rather than Obama damage limitation propaganda.
Yep, that's what I see as well. Most women were entranced by Obama.
Not real women.
Yuck
He's a smooth talker.
As he flashes them bright pearly whites, eyebrows raised, lies spewing out... watch his face and you can see it.
?
You nailed it! I have seen the exact same thing with my inlaws for years but now my friends, 100% Trump supporters, suddenly believe the msm too. Keep the Faith!
Even though I'm on the right, I think Satan hijacked the leftist ideas.
As someone who now understands the issue against abortion in a way i never could before, I have to say, in defense of those who do support it, that I had never encountered a proper conversation or perspective on why it is wrong - instead I grew up washed in awareness of the difficulties and suffering people can face when having unwanted children and I just wanted to try and help with that. The person that really solidified it for me was actually Louis CK, where he explained that one side genuinely sees it as, if you need an abortion, you better get one - the way you would take better take a dump if you need one - and the other sees it as literally killing babies. The more I thought about it, the more I realised that I saw it as actually killing babies, but no-one in my life has ever had that conversation with me, even now, and I don't think I'm alone...
I agree about progressiveness by the way. I think deep down it is driven by the passion of resentment and dissatisfaction and is of the devil. But there are many honestly good people caught up in it, and its really important to realise that they are being completely cut off from one whole side of the conversation - it is not that they have heard the case against progressivism and rejected it, they have been fooled into thinking they've heard the case against it when in fact they've been given a carefully constructed weak presentation of it.
The problem is their justification for it stems from "it's just a clump of cells".
Very early on, of course that's true -- and we as a society haven't agreed exactly when an unborn baby is considered as having a soul, which complicates things on a certain level too.
The best middle ground is up to first heartbeat, but you have people on both sides ready to loudly yell that that isn't far enough their way so conversation doesn't go anywhere and meaningful change isn't made.
And I guess that's part of the problem. The uniparty deep state has pitted us so thoroughly against each other that it has to be one way or the other way, and only my way is the right way. We don't get true non-partisan or bipartisanship anymore. We don't genuinely work together because we hate each other's values.
We can't even come together under love of country anymore.
It's actually really upsetting if you get deep into it.
The only points of reference I can think of is how Islam and Judaism approach abortion and the issue of human soul. Very generally both agree to 40 days from conception, although some Islamic views permit it up until 120 days.
I think the biggest clue is how women feel and act when they have an early miscarriage - that tells us what we know in our hearts - that this was the hope and beginning of a baby, whatever we might tell ourselves to justify an action we wanted or needed to take. Its all really really sad, and the most important thing is not to let it foster hate :(
We as a society have agreed that there is no such thing as a soul... We don't live in the middle ages...
We're essentially the only species that self police. If gorillas, bears, or pandas eat their young it is nature, but with people we call it murder.. A soul is a social construct to someone who doesn't believe it exists. That's the real issue: strictly biologically there is nothing wrong with abortion. You have to convince people to believe in the social construct, whether it be because of religion or ethics.
I'm in the minority and don't feel government should legislate biological processes. Without abortion, poverty and crime would be several times worse. I can't imagine what the end phenomena is. If a drug addicted prostitute doesn't abort, the child's only actual chance at a serviceable life is adoption.
Rich, white couples with fertility issues would usually rather spend a few hundred thousand dollars on IVF to have their own children instead of adopting. Tell me how that is noble? You literally have to kill embryos multiple times to get one to stick and survive.
100% reality
Remember PedoJo's gift of a "charm" bracelet for Hussein? Lots of swirls and triangles that symbolize their shared interests. It seems the rumors might be possible: PedoJo is on Hunter's laptop. That would look good in SCOTUS.
And pizza
And ping pong
and rape
Is that......? Hand banana? ??
I refuse to be Rick Rolled
You've looked at these photos, have you?
Some of you should screen shot the post so the AI doesn't detect and share on the commie networks to redpill.
Screenshots take more resources to pickup on
5 signs of grief.
Does something with Hunter and children have Hunter's face in it?
Without posting a link, how is that found?
Pics and vids:
https://gtv.org/search/search_query=hunter
Please delete this, it could get the site taken down.
ttps://imgpile.com/i/7GEjJh
They are a damn disgrace. God Save the children & I hope the truth comes out NOW!!
The same is true with the UN. The UN has a terrible record of abuse. But it does not matter, the end justifies the means. If their bid for the presidency requires a Traitor and a Deviant, who cares, actually all the better to control my dear.
"Everyone is familiar with the term, “the ends justify the means,” however, the disturbing reality of the mentality behind it goes unnoticed. Saul Alinsky describes it best in Rules for Radicals by describing means and ends morality. As far as the left is concerned, preventing yourself from doing what is necessary for the greater good is an act of selfishness. People who are more concerned with their own salvation, as Alinsky states, care not for the good of humanity because they are not willing to corrupt themselves in pursuit of a better world. In a twisted sort of way then, no morality becomes a higher form of morality. Those who are willing to corrupt their own soul are of a higher virtue. The good of humanity is of greater importance to them than their own well-being. This means that they are willing to lie, cheat, steal and even kill to achieve their ends. The ends after all, justify the means. Alinsky mocked those who lacked the willingness to corrupt themselves. He referred to them as means and ends moralists. People who refused to take any action at all out of fear of going against their misguided views of morality. In some cases, Alinsky was right. He referred to the passivity of the Germans who willingly sat back knowing their country was systematically eliminating an entire race of people as means and moralists. In this case however, fighting for what is right is not necessarily corrupting yourself. Doing what is necessary to defeat evil is hardly corrupting. What it boils down to then, is who is defining what is right."
from this article: I don't agree with all of this article but the above excerpt is extraordinarily perceptive and worthy of understanding.
https://defenseofournation.com/media-corruption/q-the-deceptive-nature-of-communism-on-full-display/?fbclid=IwAR28fa9VZ7wEIKjujPXHXGE04AGBqRC1dBGLpTiPMvHditShCNkVBTDq1dA
Since those with an aversion to the truth are largely followers of MSM , It seems reasonable that the only way to red pill them is to expose completely each distribution platform of the MSM. TV shows, entertainment, news, kids programming, magazines, newspapers, digital media, the talking heads, and all that perpetuate the fraud. Investigation into the 4am memos, the funders, the schools from which they come, their social circles, everything. Let those who think they can trust everything from the altar of MSM see and hear it all each day, every day. A Court TV show that runs 7 days a weeks exposing the people who craft the narratives so many Americans buy into.
Trust Sessions, Trust Wray
I think a lot of people have a hard time understanding why a crusader against child abuse would be posting on a sickening website like 8kun which, if it doesn't have outright child pornography on it, still has a great deal of child porn-adjacent material, like an entire section dedicated to "adult baby/diaper lovers."
I'm sure those fine FBI agents monitoring this .win will be all over that. /sarcasm
We can make this diagram a Q if after anger you put avoidance for those that just can't deal.
Doing sex and illegal drugs with his dead brother's underage daughter, his niece.
I've seen several of these pictures and at no point could you identify Hunter and the one with his face visible could have easily been a consenting 18+ woman.
I'm so tired of seeing this screeched on Q boards. It's just not provable. It isn't evidence of anything. This is why people don't take us seriously.
It was a child. Also the one where he is with a child she looks about 8 and she is wearing red bra and panties with clownish with her face made up. They are on Gab
Looked like an adult Asian woman.
The second picture you refer to has NO FACE and NO WAY to confirm it is Hunter.
My original statement remains. This is all hearsay and makes us look unhinged.
LOL an adult Asian woman, must have been a dwarf then the head is far too small for an adult, even an Asian one. Faces have makeup on but they are kids.
The second pic came from the same set of pics from the laptop, and if you have seen Hunter in the dressing gown - with his head- you'll see the headless guy has the same body including the exact same gut. as the nekkid pics of him in another sets.
There were also worse ones on the chans that were taken down quickly because they are child porn, but people were still discussing. I think some might even have been released on Parler shortly before went offline but I never saw those - I did see the one of the child allegedly from the Anthony Weiner laptop.
Speculation
Facts
Blur the lines until you're Big Bad Wolf is formed
BTW don't take this the wrong way, but are you new to this? It is just that you seem to be struggling at the idea Hunter could have this stuff on his laptop. If you had been in this for a while you would know it is par for the course.
Even before Q once the wikileaks dropped on the pizzagate stuff, and then the whole spirit cooking thing, it was known what these sick bastards were up to.
Remember when Anons were digging and the info came out on the Epstein tunnels, and the security pics from RCs instagram, a quick selection of pics to remind you - these are just a few - https://operationq.pub/?q=rachel+chandler (I still think Channel 11 is Hillary, but some have said the posture looks more like Bette Midler. Possible. Take a good hard look at Channel 10)
Even if it were not pedo stuff on his laptop, it makes Joe a blackmail target, but the info Miles Gu dropped shows that the Chinese have all the info that is on Hunters laptop and there is definitely kiddie stuff on there.
Bro, I'm not new. I've been on the chans since before Pizzagate.
I was saying there is NO WAY the pictures we saw can be verified. Unverified bullshit is the reason no one takes us seriously and this movement can't grow bigger than it has.
Making claims with zero evidence is not a good look.
"That's definitely Hunter!" Okay prove it. "I...can't!" OOOOOOOKAY
The images are disturbing, yes, but that's because I'm not a pervert. The one with Hunter and the Asian appearing woman was so lacking in detail that there is no way to tell if its a young girl or small woman. Calling it a young girl when it could clearly be a woman is not good for the movement. Too much bullshit is pushed around here.
Fuck off.
So because you didn't see it it doesn't exist?
It exists
This board is talking about a few specific pictures that most of us have seen over the last two months. Those are the pictures I'm talking about. My original statement remains.
Because it's our job to bring TRUTH, open source TRUTH, not rumors, to the general public.
This isn't an insular movement. We're supposed to be talking with people about what we learn to be TRUE here, not hearsay.
I would also like to know the answer to this. To me the level of depravity that Hunter is being accused of goes way beyond sleeping with prostitutes (dodgy, but not that uncommon) and taking drugs (dodgy, but again not that uncommon and most of us know people who do). Are there pictures of him naked or exposing himself with kids? And what do we mean by kids? I am honestly asking because it is really difficult for me to get my head around something like this and I need a way higher standard of evidence than often does the rounds without being seriously challenged. Are we talking,evidence that if it was in court would be sufficient to convict him and what would the charges be? I appreciate anyone who can take the time to answer this, as I appreciate it may be frustrating if you are already convinced.
Pretty sure it boils down to the drama surrounding the unique type of relationship Hunter had with Natalie. There are text messages that support that there was impropriety.. but it could be family drama mudslinging. I know of no definitive proof that was released.. the closest being the suggestion of Hunter being undressed or similar while web cam chatting with Natalie. Other evidence was very suggestive text message implying a romantic relationship developing between the two.
This.
I've been wondering the same. It is undeniable, or just suggested, circumstantial, implied?
I feel like for how brainwashed people are and the mental gymnastics they'd be willing to attempt it would have to be undeniable.
Yep - it's inconceivable to me that people do stuff like this, even though some part of my brain knows that they do. But like most people I've led a protected life and it is almost impossible for me to get my head around people doing something so terrible. It's like a serious paradigm shift that is needed for me to truly believe that the corruption goes beyond normal "power corrupts" stuff and into actual depravity. I listened to Lin woods conference call ambush today, and I have to say, that guy is bloody convincing when you hear him talk... I believe that he believes what he's saying.
I have seen one picture of what looks like a young girl (8-10 maybe) wrapped around a pole with her face in his bare chest. There are needles and what appears to be cocaine too. I downloaded the pic to my phone to show my libtard friends to try get them to open their eyes. I would upload it but I don’t think people really need to see that. It’s truly disturbing.
Dude I couldn’t read this, if you “won” why would you not let Q dissolve into obscurity?
The post explains it if you keep going
Nope, that’s retarded. You give .00001% of a thought to Q, have to go on a board and express yourself. You’re damn well not helping destroy Q. You’re retarded.
Another handshake shill-tard. LOL Just like the old days in VOAT. There is another handshake shill below asking what "does handshake mean". LOL These shill-tards are stupid.
Yeah but I now know a hell of a lot more about the deep state than I did before. Thank Q very much