The mental condition is strong even on our side. We can accept that Kim Jon Un, Stalin and other dictators have body doubles. We can accept that Hollywood actors use doubles for their stunts, but the minute you suggest that the elite use them from time to time and it’s met with hysterics and “That’s crazy!” Why?
If you’re a world leader there are a lot of benefits to having one. The most obvious is security reasons. There are others as well. What if it’s time for you to speak at a G 20 meeting, but you’ve come down with food poisoning. It’d look bad to cancel. Yeah, just call in your double. A body double lets you be in two places at once. .
Haven’t we all wished for an identical twin who could fill in for us at work or at an important engagement? Now what if you had the power and money to make one. Would you do it?
So why do conservatives and normies find it incredibly hard to accept. The shills will always scream, “That’s crazy!” That’s what they do, yet even our own have deep levels of brainwashing that make their minds unable to see the forest for the trees. We are very conditioned by society not to accept that certain world leaders and high profile figures would ever use one despite the very obvious gains.
Body doubles are real. They’ve been around a long time in human history. Kings and queens used them. Emperors used them. Yes, US presidents use them. (Look how many US presidents have been assassinated. Of course they use them by now!)
In fact, it’s a lot more common than any of us realize. This is why the DS conditioned us to not believe they are common. This is why they put that mental block in our head. If we knew just how much body doubles have been used in the Obama years, Bush years we’d be stunned. It raises tons of questions.
We have Hillary Clinton with her magic healing broken toe in 2017 (see my previous post) and Biden with his magical healing broken foot. Why doesn’t it surprise the DS? Because they know. They know there is a good chance they’ll be caught on camera cavorting with a high-profile figure’s body double and like any good DS loyalists they have to act like that is the real deal.
Do you think the people around Stalin never noticed they were talking to one of his doubles? Of course they did. But they knew to pretend they didn’t know. No matter how obvious it was they had to pretend it was the real Stalin. These people are trained not to react if Hillary Clinton walks in with a completely new face like she did in 2019. They just go “It’s plastic surgery! I love her new face”. Hillary Clinton’s broken toe magically fixes itself in the space of a day. Smile and nod. Go on and clap like baby seals. Nothing to see here. People move on. The elite and their minions are well trained to never give anything away even if they suspect they are hanging out with the double. It’s just how their society works.
Imagine what would happen to the idiot who piped up and said in public, “Hey, you’re not the real Stalin!” Yeah, that’s a great way to get a one-way ticket to the Gulag.
So why do we get these increasing absurdities with fake Biden and Hillary’s double? Why don’t the DS minions say anything? Because they’re not supposed to. They will clap and go “Wow, you look like a new person” but continue to pretend that is the real person until they are given permission to say otherwise. None of them want to be that person who spills the beans.
Getting a body double has only become easier with deepfake, prosthetics, plastic surgery and a boatload of starving actors desperate for income. The cost of getting a double has only gotten more affordable with all the new technology.
Do you really think they wouldn’t rely on this? Many of these people like Pelosi and Hillary Clinton have a ton of health problems they’re trying to cover up. If you want to cover up your health problems then a body double would be the way to go. No leader wants to look weak. Sure, they might go for sympathy with the voters every now and then by saying they got a sore throat, but they are not going to cancel on an appearance at the G20 because they ended up with explosive diarrhea from the questionable seafood they ate last night.
No, they’ll call up their double.
How do you think Ruth Ginsburg “survived” so long?
Why do you think the DS desperately doesn’t want you to accept the idea of body doubles and how common they are among the elite? Because it opens up a can of worms. It’s logical. I’d use a body double to fill in for me if had the money for it. Why are so conditioned to think it impossible? Who conditioned us that way?
Why are you so trained to roll your eyes and reject the idea?
"The mental condition is strong even on our side."
--In many ways, it's worse on our side. The commies all secretly despise one another, and so no one of them is truly a revered hero. The good guys, otoh, ooze trust and love, and so are easy to fool.
For me, it always get back to: "Why did the Cabal media give Donald Trump a billion dollars worth of publicity from 2015 onward when it could have cold-shouldered him into 4% and given the Republican nomination to another mat-diving loser like Romney?"
A Theory Into Which This Puzzle-piece Fits: Trump is a white-hat double-agent. In 2015, Cabal thought he was one of theirs (he's a New York Democrat who "plays the game"), and he was selected to run a highly divisive and polarizing campaign (which he initially did). But then Trump goes off-script while Hillary is stuffed in the van, and suddenly Cabal is without both of their chosen candidates.
If you're going to use the enemy's tools against him, what better tools than his own lieutenants?
From the Cabal vantage point of controlling both (or so they were certain at the time) it didn't matter who won (although they'd regularly cycle between Reps and Dems to maintain the facade of "your vote matters".
I suspect that is exactly what happened. I think the real Hillary disappeared that day and was replaced from then on by her doubles. DS minions are highly trained never to out a double. It's certain death in their world. If you meet Obama's double, you smile and nod. They're scared to death to out doubles.
Q post 2 said she was detained. People also don't understand what detained means. Did you know that thanks to laws pass after 911 the government can permanently detain you? Yes, even US citizens. Even our side lives in a dream.
"Mr. KYL. Mr. President, I would say to my colleague, yes. My colleague knows this case, I am confident. I think one quotation from the case makes the point clearly–in Ex parte Quirin the court made clear: “Citizenship in the United States of an enemy belligerent does not relieve him from the consequences of his belligerency.”
You need to understand that neither the primary or the double (or triple, etc) is actually that important to the Cabal. The primary/double/triple/etc doesn't actually do anything other than exactly what they're told (everything is scripted by agencies, and all the crap they sign is written by K-Street). But at least one is needed to trot out as a figurehead to maintain the illusion.
The primaries may have been "real people" fifty years ago, but by twenty years ago, they were all just actors.
Saddam Hussein had 6-7 body doubles. It was well known. Reminds me of the movie Dave. Turns out it was a huge redpill. And now Kevin Klein is married to Bill Gates.
There is a huge difference between a double, and a replacement. Obviously doubles for royalty have been a thing for hundreds of years at least. But if someone like Biden is not Biden, then its not just a double for security, its a complete replacement that has gone on for over a couple years. Biden hasn't changed in all that time.
So either he's Joe Biden, who aged and had plastic surgery, or its a completely different person, and Joe Biden has not only never been president, but he is almost certainly dead.
Such an idea takes conspiracy and "the show" to a whole different level.
I am not saying that can't possibly be true. I am just pointing out that there is a huge difference between the concept of a body double, and a full human replacement that goes on for years.
If normies don't notice when a double steps in, then they wouldn't notice a replacement. I mean look at the current Joe Biden. His features are completely different from the original. And yet there are many on this site who can't accept the new Joe.
The shape of his head is different from the real Joe, yet people are like, "Erm... he just got plastic surgery." One of his ears is now attached to the side of his head. "Plastic surgery!" His eyes are different. "That's just age!" It gets sillier and sillier. I'm not sure it all comes from shills. There seems to be some on our side who are willfully blind to it. There is something about the idea that they can't accept. I guess it hits a primal fear in many.
Even the media can't do age progression videos to the current Joe Biden because the software obviously won't work. The new Joe is not the old Joe.
If you can't notice when someone has been swapped with a double then you wouldn't notice if they've been replaced. The replacement's features would just be seen as that of the original with time.
I think there are times when the DS couldn't use the original anymore and did replace them for either financial reasons or political or strategic. Say a Supreme Court Justice who's seat you need to hold. clears throat
We have never met these people in real life. How would we know? You can go back and edit videos and photos if you want.
Look what happens when people point out that someone's not the same. They get bombarded with wails of how they're crazy. It'd be no different if that person is replaced.
If you can swap them with a double, you can replace them completely.
Why do you think swapping with a double is possible, but using that same double to replace them is impossible What's the difference?
For one thing thanks to modern technology (prosthetics, cgi ect.) it doesn't have to be the same double. You can rotate.
I recently showed my husband the Biden side-by-side (few years ago and current) and he said, "That's not even the same person." My husband is very perceptive and doesn't follow all of this, being rather apolitical. But people can see it. After seeing the old, past his prime pResident over and over, my brain recognizes him as who he is. It's a massive trick to play on people!
There ARE great voice impersonators out there. I can't think of the name, but hes on YouTube, and that guy is spot on perfect. The question is : is this a teachable skill?
^^^ This type of free-flowing, creative and critical thinking is part of why I come here. Great analysis. I would add that the prevalence of doubles in popular culture is likely more conditioning. The endless click bait nonsense about celebrity doppelgängers. Movies like Dave and The Prestige. The use of twins in stage magic since forever. I have seen a stage act up close that could only have been done with doubles/twins, and yet still I willingly suspended belief momentarily. The (geriatric) people I was with refused to accept it was done with doubles. “Ok. So the dude literally disappears in a cloud of smoke on stage and reappears standing on the edge of a balcony high up in the theatre circle, with a spotlight shining on him, ¡¡¡3 SECONDS LATER!!! and you think it’s due to the as-yet-never-proven-theory of teleportation??!!!”
Getting a body double has only become easier with deepfake, prosthetics, plastic surgery and a boatload of starving actors desperate for income.
It might not even be about the money for some! Imagine being an actor and being able to pull off the "Greatest Role in HIstory" or something like that.
(I was just reminded of the producer in Wag The Dog (played by Dustin Hoffman) who set up the whole scam the movie's based on but then wanted to tell the world what a great job he did. Didn't end well for him, so it might be something an actor would never be able to brag about.)
A number of years ago I read an article about Putin being replaced with a look alike. I think it said the original was dead. The look alike divorced Putin’s wife. The wife swore that this man was not her husband. I don’t know if it’s true but it might explain the much more gentile man who is in favor of democracy and not the KGB killer. Who knows.
Vocal timbre is easy to adjust now. For example, in the last year or so it's been possible to increase the speed of video playback without everyone sounding like a chipmunk. --It's being automatically handled by the software.
They are used in a temporary or dangerous situation as security precautions. But when have they ever been used as a permanent replacement? And why would they choose a body double of Xiden who clearly has dementia?
Futureworld. Great 70s movie about cloning world leaders everyone should dig up and watch. And while you're at it, watch Soylent Green too. Boy I loved those movies as a teenager.
I would think the music industry would see a big benefit in doing this. If one of their big stars gets laryngitis, which is the better option? Have her double take the stage and lip sync her songs or cancel all the performances and refund the concert goers?
When the populace at large hates you, you can't afford not to have a body double. Politicians know they are hated. It seems like common sense they would use doubles in high risk situations.
In The Strange Death of Franklin D. Roosevelt, Emanuel Josephson spends a chapter on FDR's doubles. Josephson provides evidence that one or more doubles filled in for FDR, as FDR was dying. Josephson mentions Jack Young, an actor (p 238), and Winthrup Rutherford (p. 240) as likely doubles.
Josephson gives 10 reasons to believe that doubles were filling in for the dying FDR, in 1944 and 1945. (p. 242),
I read an article le about Uday Hussein and his double. Uday was one sick puppy. He threatened the double and his family. I think he also had the guy locked up and tortured, made him get plastic surgery and if he performed poorly or made a mistake he was severely punished
Ok. Why would they choose a body double for Xiden who has dementia? It's not at all possible that he's gotten old and had a ton of plastic surgery to try to look younger? I'm just not buying it.
I call bullshit. Doubles and clones are a bunch of disinformation meant to discredit the very real corruption of the deep state. Joe Biden is Joe Biden and the conspiracy is that he is actually senile but they’re letting him pretend to be president.
Before the age of Internet where you can look up someone’s photo in three seconds on your smart phone, yes Stalin and General Montgomery and even Sadam’s son’s could get away with body doubles.
And if the double is sitting inside a vehicle (the Queen) or just walking across the sidewalk (HillaryClinton) for three seconds, you also may be able to get away with it. But there’s no way you can get a double that has the mimicry and acting ability to copy someone 24/7.
If Joe Biden is a double then his wife would certainly know about it or is Jill Biden also a double? Or did she agree to live with some strange man who looks like her missing or dead husband. Finally if they’re going to get a double for Joe Biden why did would the deep state get one that can’t even speak a straight sentence. Or are you going to tell me that it was Trump that secretly replaced Biden with a masterful actor who is supposed to act like they’re going senile in order to discredit the Democrats. Sure, dream on. The Democrats don’t need any help discrediting themselves.
And don’t even get me started on explaining how fucking retarded the cloning conspiracy theory is.
So these documented cases of body doubles are just made up to you? Why do you think that?
"Before the age of Internet where you can look up someone’s photo in three seconds on your smart phone, yes Stalin and General Montgomery and even Sadam’s son’s could get away with body doubles."
You do know that deepfakes, prosthetics and plastic surgery are a thing, right?
"And don’t even get me started on explaining how fucking retarded the cloning conspiracy theory is."
Again, you brought that up entirely on your own and then began nonsensically ranting about it. I notice in your comment history you do that a lot.
Someone talks about BOOMs in a Q post and you suddenly go, "SO YOU BELIEVE IN ALIENS?!"
What they said has zero to do with all the weird crap you add in. Do you ever read and analyze logically what people are saying? Or do you just throw in an extreme strawmen like a typical redditor. I suspect your goal here is chaos.
I knew when this comment took off it would set off your type of commenter who isn't interested in any debate. You just rush over and go "OmG LIkE CrAZy."
I understand what you are saying, but the DS needs control. If their original operative stops cooperating, and they still have a use for the person, why wouldn't they replace them with a double they control.
I always think back to the speech Biden gave in Delaware before leaving for the WH for inauguration. He teared up and said he didn't want to die. Still seems mighty suspicious.
Do you deny Bill escorting Hillary's double to the inauguration?
I wasn’t at the inauguration so I didn’t see Hillary with my own eyes. I did see some photos that looked a little funny. Of course a photo can be manipulated by anyone with any agenda.
Did the inauguration even really happen in the way it was presented?
I’ve read detailed articles claiming that recently Hillary was arrested by special forces, sent to Guantánamo where she was subject to a very short trial. That news source said she was convicted of various crimes and then hung by the neck until dead.
I think it’s possible that that those events actually occurred and that she is already dead. However, simultaneously I can also accept the possibility that the articles I read were disinformation meant to give people false hope and distract them.
So, I’m not going to think about or discuss whether Hillary is alive or dead, because I can’t be sure if it’s true or disinformation.
Instead I’m going to focus my attention on real things like the reporting from multiple sources that explains how election audits are ongoing and the variety of actual evidence that the election was stolen.
OK so let’s say Joe Biden and Joe Biden are actors. Do you think their children didn’t notice or did they go out and find a former crackhead actor to replace Hunter Biden. What about the Bidens grand children? Were they threatened with death not to reveal the secret that their grandparents were replaced?
If someone replaced your mother or grandmother would you not notice?
If so, I think you’re a lot dumber than the average person.
"I think you're a lot dumber than the average person".
Why can't you just discuss things? Why do you got to always name call and be nasty to people? There are plenty of people here who discuss things and ask questions without making it personal. They were polite to you, yet you feel driven to be as nasty as possible to them.
I just don't get why you feel the need to act that way and turn everything into a fight.
If someone replaced your grandmother or mother would you notice?
Yes or no?
I don’t think most people would be fooled by even the best actor wearing the best prosthetics. I don’t think you would be fooled so in fact I don’t think you’re that dumb.
Your mistaken assumption is that the elite cabalists are normal everyday people.
Unfortunately they are warped and corrupted at an early age to not care about anyone but themselves. If it was their skin on the line, they will do what the CB tells them.
If you want to know if Hunter would speak out if his father was replaced by an actor is look at his laptop...
I agree with you that the members of the cabal are likely satanists and are willing to do anything to maintain their control.
However, while I could take an Oscar award winning actor, put a realistic mask on them and have them perform one speech on camera and then have that video manipulated by Hollywood experts enough to fool a lot of people, I don’t think you can replace someone for weeks at a time.
Mimicking Joe Biden’s stuttering forgetful speaking pattern and presenting all of his memories in a genuine way would simply be impossible to do 24 hours a day.
Of course, you argue “they are limiting our ability to see the double”.
Of course they limiting his public face, because the real Joe is going senile.
I've literally gone through and answered every single question in several of your posts. And yet you still insist I'm not answering your questions.
You ask me questions like "body double cloning" and then I point out that my post had nothing to do with cloning. Have you considered that maybe you're cherry-picking?
"I don’t think most people would be fooled by even the best actor wearing the best prosthetics."
Um...I'd strongly disagree. Are you not aware how advanced proshtetics are?
People wouldn’t notice, huh? Now, here’s exactly how it would work.
So, I hug my grandmother and noticed that she seems different.
I ask her “Hey grandma remember the time you took me to Disneyland”.
And she said “Oh yes of course, that was a wonderful time.”
Then I say “You never took me to Disneyland”, who the hell are you?
You may be right that prosthetics might enable an actor to fool grandkids for a little while but eventually each grandchild is going to wonder why their grandfather doesn’t remember each of their favorite ice cream flavors. Of course, with the real Joe Biden actually being senile who knows what he can remember. LOL...
I’ll stop being an asshole when other people admit to the possible existence of disinformation campaigns.
Outsiders are being paid to come in to this forum and plant various rumors, are they not?
If someone comes into this forum and claims that extra-terrestrials helped the Democrats steal the election, is that something that we should spend time discussing?
Why would we discuss that possibility when we have solid evidence that corporations like Dominion and Facebook helped the Democrats steal the election?
So, again why discuss the possibility that a Joe Biden double is destroying the United States when we have much more proof that a real job Biden is destroying United States?
Wait a minute, maybe the aliens did help the Democrats steal the election and then they gave the Democrats the technology to enable them to replace the real Joe Biden with a fake Joe Biden! If I was working for global elites I would create a post about my theory right now. Lol...
"I’ll stop being an asshole when other people admit to the possible existence of disinformation campaigns."
Fair enough. There are definitely disinformation campaigns. I fully acknowledge they exist. Now will you keep your word and stop being an asshole?
"People are being paid to come in to this forum and plant various rumors, are they not?"
They are indeed. Others posted the Reddit forums where they literally discuss sending shills and what disinfo they'll post here. You may not like Q Strategy but he has posted links to several of these that prove that it is happening!
"If someone comes into this forum and claims that extra-terrestrials helped Joe Biden steal the election, is that something that we should spend time discussing?"
I'd have to see their evidence and decide for myself if I want to discuss it. I assume others can make that call for themselves. It's called be a free-thinking adult.
"Why would we discuss that possibility when we have solid evidence that corporations like Dominion and Facebook helped Joe buy them steal the election?"
Because the Great Awakening is more important than a single election. If the sheep don't wake up, nothing will ever get better. The blind sheep let all this evil happen because they let others tell them what to think.
That must end.
"So again why discuss the possibility that a Joe Biden double is destroying the United States when we have much more proof that a real job Biden is destroying United States?"
Because if a double is in place, then who did it? This is the Great Awakening forum not the "US 2020 election forum". You might try Patriots.win if that's all you want to talk about. People here are going to analyze theories and Q proofs and whatever evidence they take an interest in.
I agree with you that the great awakening is more than just the election.
However a very important part of the great awakening is understanding the exact manipulation methods that they have used against us.
In general, I see it as my goal to make people aware of the possibility of disinformation campaigns.
Disinformation campaigns allow Normies to dismiss the crimes that we actually have proof for.
If I spend all my time trying to red pill my Aunt Betty on the Adrenochrome narrative, she will experience cognitive dissonance and not only is she going to ignore me, she now has permission to ignore any information about child trafficking.
I can point out a bunch of CIA produced flat-earth videos that you should watch on YouTube.
There’s no need to pay attention to presidential election audits when something important like flat earth deserves our attention right?
P.S. No matter if current president is the real senile Biden or the fake senile Biden, if the audits are completed and validated, whomever is pretending to be President right now will be out. So why are people wasting our time with this body double cloning bullshit?
Typical redditor. Rather than discuss things you quickly create an extreme strawman. No one brought up flat earth but you immediately take it out of proportion.
I was wondering when we'd get one of you here throwing a tantrum rather than having a discussion.
No matter if the current president is the real senile Biden or the fake senile Biden, if the audits are completed and validated, whomever is pretending to be President right now will be out of office.
So why are people wasting our time with this body double cloning bullshit?
Answer that question buddy.
Are you worried that they’re going to insert a deep state body double/clone of Trump who will continue Biden’s policies?
I see you keep trying to "body double cloning". You keep not reading the post and adding in what you want it to say.
Where in my post did I mention cloning? You keep adding that inyourself. Is it hard for you to read and analyze what something actually says? You gotta keep adding in stuff that was never said?
Why are you so concerned with what others read on an open forum? Why are you so concerned with how others use their time? You come here, add extreme strawmen, and then keep adding in stuff that was never mentioned.
"Are you worried that they’re going to insert a deep state body double/clone of Trump who will continue Biden’s policies?"
Lol. What the hell are you even talking about? Maybe you should have added aliens and more flat earth while you were at it since you seem extra obsessed with those.
Thank you for one of the silliest questions I've seen so far and I've seen some pretty fun posted here by shills from reddit.
I know for a fact that many of the people who believe that body doubles are being used also believe that clones are being used. I was booted out of several chat groups on Telegram because I disagreed with their opinions on cloning and body doubles.
Now, I am going to agree with you that the use of body doubles is real. Yes, in the past before the Internet, Joseph Stalin or General Montgomery could get away with using a body double as their pictures were not available 24/7 on the Internet.
And yes that one time Hillary got really sick they tried to use a body double to walk across the sidewalk dressed as her but someone got a good picture of that double and we we caught them.
So again, I don’t disagree with you that sometimes body doubles are used. What I disagree with you about is the possibility of using a body double to replace someone 24 hours a day for several weeks in a row.
So I disagree that Joe Biden is hidden or dead and has been replaced by one of the worlds greatest actors in history. (<-THIS IS WHAT I DISAGREE WITH)
Fake conspiracy theories like flat earth are used to discredit real secrets like the fact that aliens have visited earth in the past and are probably visiting us today. Now, if you disagree with me about aliens that’s fine but I need you to go talk to the United States Navy and ask them why they think that the UFOs recorded by their pilots can outperform anything we put in the air including planes, drones and missiles.
Now, let’s pretend that you’re right and that the current resident of the White House is a body double being controlled by the deep state in order to damage the United States. Well we all know from old videos of Joe Biden that he was an idiot and a liar and we know that he is now very old. If Joe Biden was in the presidential office he would be being controlled by the deep state in order to damage the United States.
It doesn’t matter if the current resident of the White House is the real Joe Biden or the fake Joe Biden. Once the audits are done and the results of the audits are validated and accepted, the current resident of the White House will have to leave the White House.
In the meantime, every time a patriot brings up the possibility that the presidential election was stolen, anyone who disagrees with them might say “Hey do all you Q-Anons also think that the deep state replaced Joe Biden with a body double?”
So again, you don’t seem to understand how a disinformation operation really works or you’re just pretending not to understand how they work because you’re part of the disinformation operation.
Now are you going to address any of my arguments or will you just continue to accuse me of not debating fairly?
Again look for the bold capital letters above where I point out what I disagree with you about. I don’t believe it is possible to permanently replace Joe Biden for weeks at a time. I do believe that people who get plastic surgery and become senile can experience a change in appearance.
"I know for a fact that many of the people who believe that body doubles are being used also believe that clones are being used."
So? And again you misuse "fact". What happened to you elsewhere has zero to do with me now. Why do you keep trying to push your cloning obsession on me?
"So again, I don’t disagree with you that sometimes body doubles are used. What I disagree with you about is the possibility of using a body double to replace someone 24 hours a day for several weeks in a row."
Ok. And you're welcome to disagree. I have no problem if you don't think that's true. That part wasn't even posted in my main argument. I theorized about that in a reply to another commenter. You could have just come in and said you disagree with what I said in the reply, but you come in hostile for no reason.
"So I disagree that Joe Biden is hidden or dead and has been replaced by one of the worlds greatest actors in history. (<-THIS IS WHAT I DISAGREE WITH)"
Again, it's fine to disagree. Look at how you came in though. You added in things that I never said and you're still doing that. I never said anything about "replaced with one of the world's greatest actors in history". Like... wut?
You keep pushing for me to argue against statements I never made.
"Fake conspiracy theories like flat earth are used to discredit real secrets like the fact that aliens have visited earth in the past and are probably visiting us today."
Where do I mention flat earth in my post? Where?
You agree with the notion of body doubles which is what the post was about. You've already said you entirely agree with that part. The only part you disagreed with was something I wrote in a reply, NOT the original post.
" the current resident of the White House will have to leave the White House."
I fully support that.
"So again, you don’t seem to understand how a disinformation operation really works or you’re just pretending not to understand how they work because you’re part of the disinformation operation."
I don't think you get how free thinking works. We are not sheep. You just said you agree with the things wrote about in the post (not the reply) and admit Biden might be a double, but you don't think it matters and therefore should not be mentioned because you think normies won't like it.
Even Q posts were clear that this was about more than election. This was about the Great Awakening. We can't avoid ideas just because normies aren't willing to think about them. Winning an election will mean little if you don't get the Great Awakening. It will all happen again if the sheep don't wake up.
I'm going to disagree with you entirely on avoiding topics because normies won't like it.
Normies can grow the f up.
"I don’t believe it is possible to permanently replace Joe Biden for weeks at a time."
Ok. That's not a problem if you disagree. I don't have a problem with you disagreeing. That's part of a discussion. It's the back and forth.
I think the main things we disagree on is that you don't want things posted on a Q forum that normies won't like. I disagree with you on that. I think the Great Awakening is the most important goal of Q. Normies need to wake up for anything to change. We need to talk about the uncomfortable ideas or nothing will ever get better.
There’s no way you could get away with using doubles in the age of ubiquitous smart phones that allow you to take photos and compare them to hundreds of other existing photos.
Yes, Joe Biden looks different because he has gotten multiple plastic surgeries, he’s getting very old and also because senility also affects a person’s facial expressions and physical appearance.
Beware of wild conspiracy theories that are being used to discredit the very real corruption of the deep state and the global elite’s.
Yes NASA is lying to us about the existence of aliens but the earth is not flat.
We know for a fact that the Democrats stole the presidential election and right now audits are being done and more will be done.
Global elites want you to ignore the audits and they want you chasing around a bunch of disinformation campaign’s instead.
AND FINALLY, it doesn’t matter if it was Joe Biden or Joe Biden’s double who stole the election. The election was stolen from Trump, focus on that.
It's funny how you disregard everyone else's arguments as disinfo, but then treat your own conjecture and opinion as fact.
"Yes, Joe Biden looks different because he has gotten mutliple plastic surgeries".
That's your opinion. You do know the difference between a fact and opinion.
"He's getting very old and..." That's just your speculation.
"Global elites want you to ignore the audits." Again, your opinion. How did you decide that's what the Deep State wants? You don't know. You're speculating, yet when others discuss and theorize you are very condescending towards their opinions.
"And finally it doesn't matter if it was Joe Biden or Joe Biden's double who stole the election..." I thought you just said that was crazy talk and he only looks different because of plastic surgery. So in the end you do accept Biden might not be Biden. But you have decided no one is allowed to discuss it because you don't like us discussing it.
There is also very little evidence that someone is using a body double to replace Biden. It’s all based on some observations that people have made and their opinions on those observations. Has anyone gotten a DNA sample from the “fake” Joe Biden and tested it against his medical records? No.
The body double narrative is a distraction from other very real important issues like election audits or the use of cultural Marxism to brainwash American students.
Given the fact that election audits may remove the current resident of the White House means that your circle jerking about doubles is a waste of time.
The possibility that off world aliens have visited us in the past and today is very real. The US Navy is admitting that they don’t understand how these unidentified flying objects can outperform any existing American flight technology. However, there are a bunch of circle jerkers out there talking about how NASA is hiding the fact that the earth is flat.
Do you see how disinformation works it’s just a bunch of circle jerking.
"There is very little evidence that someone..." I'd disagree. I think there is a lot of evidence from facial analysis that he is.
You already agreed that it might be possible, but now you want a DNA sample. How would we get the real Biden's DNA sample? That would be so easy to fake.
"The body double narrative is a distraction from other very real important issues like election audits or the use of cultural Marxism to brainwash American students."
No, it's not. It's actual quite important to understanding a lot of the date in the Q posts themselves. (I plan to expand in later posts on that). Also the reason the brainwashing is so effective is people are blind to these simple tricks of the Deep State.
"Given the fact that election audits may remove the current resident of the White House means that your circle jerking about doubles is a waste of time."
I remember this same type of flawed thinking on The Donald when it was still The Donald. "Q is a waste of time!" and "We need to focus on the recounts, not this Qtard crap". Why are you pushing those same methods? You accuse me of helping disinfo, yet you push their same stuff. Did you know that?
"However, there are a bunch of circle jerkers out there talking about how NASA is hiding the fact that the earth is flat."
Why are you so obsessed with inserting random stuff in that I never said?
"Do you see how disinformation works it’s just a bunch of circle jerking."
That is not at all what is happening here. Also do you see how trying to control what other people talk about serves the Deep State? You don't like people thinking about anything but what you think is important. Same tactic I saw on The Donald whenever Q was brought up.
What next? Are you going to tell people to stop analyzing Q posts and proofs because "we should only discuss the audit and nothing else!"
No, the Great Awakening is the most important. People need to think for themselves and stop letting others tell them what to think.
OK well let me behave in a way that might help you learn something.
Let me pretend to be Q:
Does disinformation exist?
What is the function of disinformation?
What type of disinformation would distract people from more important issues?
Is it important whether or not we know that Michael Jackson is dead or alive?
If disinformation campaigns were real where would they plant the disinformation?
Would they plant disinformation in the mass media or in alternative media?
What is the difference between misinformation (lies?) and disinformation (discrediting?)?
I personally think your Q impression is not even close to being anything like Q. Just my opinion.
What is your solution to disinformation? It seems to be censorship and not allowing people to talk about anything you have personally decided was misinformation.
No, it is my opinion that people should waste time talking about things that are likely disinformation when we have huge amounts of evidence that the election was stolen.
Again it doesn’t matter whether the real Joe Biden or a fake Joe Biden are in the presidential office. Both of them are there illegitimately. Once we all work together to spread the word that the audits have been done and are valid people will accept putting Trump back in the office.
I don’t need to convince them that Joe Biden is a double in order for them to accept that Trump must be put back in the office. Do you see my point?
Now, once the “fake/real Joe Biden” is put out of office and arrested for participating in election fraud, then we can go ahead and take that DNA sample and find out if he’s the real Joe Biden or not. At that point, you may be proven correct but you know what, it doesn’t matter.
So the next time that someone puts up a post where they present a great deal of evidence that shows that Joe Biden may be being possessed by a fifth dimensional lizard person you should carefully consider whether that is something you should debate on this forum.
Easy to do. People are so dumbed down and brainwashed from the mockingbird media, it only takes one shill like Anderson Cooper or Wolf Blitzer to say it is really them and all the sheep nod in agreement. People no longer believe their eyes, or logic, they believe what the media tells them to.
Some people compare old and new photos of Joe Biden and believe that he is now a different person. I don’t.
In both old pictures and new pictures of Joe Biden you can see that he has vertical dents in the sides of his forehead (2.5 inches each?). I’m guessing that when he was born, the doctor use forceps, clamped them onto the side of his forehead to yank him out and created these two dents.
It is difficult for a mask or make up to create a dent because a dent is negative space. So, in my opinion we’re still looking at a real senile Joe Biden who’s gotten a lot of bad plastic surgery and hair plugs done.
In any case, whether you think Joe Biden is a double or not is a matter of opinion, not a matter of fact.
Either way, if the recounts are validated, the fake or real Joe Biden will be kicked out of the White House.
But if you want to enjoy your body doubles narrative circle jerking, feel free.
Opening your mind is a great idea but at the same time we all need to be better at critical thinking. One of the best ways to discredit true conspiracy theories is to put out fake conspiracy theories.
That’s why around the years 2014 to 2016 somebody paid for and produced a number of very well-made YouTube videos to promote flat earth theory. There are a great number of reasons why no one should believe in flat earth theory, I don’t believe it.
Anyhow, after that boom in flat earth theory, anytime I brought up another conspiracy theory topic like JFK or 911, normie morons would accuse me of also believing in flat earth theory. Disinformation campaign’s like flat earth theory allow Normies to discount every other conspiracy theory.
Now, if I tell my British friends that there’s evidence on this website proving that the US election was stolen, I may be accused of being a “Q-anon who ALSO believes that Joe Biden is a body double, a clone or a reptilian.”
I’ve said in several other comments that I do believe that doubles are real as I’ve seen them. I saw Hillary’s double that time she got sick. It was obvious to most people.
However, I don’t believe that the person in the White House is a double for Joe Biden. To double for someone 24 hours a day, seven days a week would be extraordinarily difficult for even the best actor.
The mental condition is strong even on our side. We can accept that Kim Jon Un, Stalin and other dictators have body doubles. We can accept that Hollywood actors use doubles for their stunts, but the minute you suggest that the elite use them from time to time and it’s met with hysterics and “That’s crazy!” Why?
Even Leftists sites like Slate can admit that Chinese rich elite use them: https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2012/08/chinas-wealthy-and-influential-sometimes-hire-body-doubles-to-serve-their-prison-sentences.html
If you’re a world leader there are a lot of benefits to having one. The most obvious is security reasons. There are others as well. What if it’s time for you to speak at a G 20 meeting, but you’ve come down with food poisoning. It’d look bad to cancel. Yeah, just call in your double. A body double lets you be in two places at once. .
Haven’t we all wished for an identical twin who could fill in for us at work or at an important engagement? Now what if you had the power and money to make one. Would you do it?
So why do conservatives and normies find it incredibly hard to accept. The shills will always scream, “That’s crazy!” That’s what they do, yet even our own have deep levels of brainwashing that make their minds unable to see the forest for the trees. We are very conditioned by society not to accept that certain world leaders and high profile figures would ever use one despite the very obvious gains.
Body doubles are real. They’ve been around a long time in human history. Kings and queens used them. Emperors used them. Yes, US presidents use them. (Look how many US presidents have been assassinated. Of course they use them by now!)
In fact, it’s a lot more common than any of us realize. This is why the DS conditioned us to not believe they are common. This is why they put that mental block in our head. If we knew just how much body doubles have been used in the Obama years, Bush years we’d be stunned. It raises tons of questions. We have Hillary Clinton with her magic healing broken toe in 2017 (see my previous post) and Biden with his magical healing broken foot. Why doesn’t it surprise the DS? Because they know. They know there is a good chance they’ll be caught on camera cavorting with a high-profile figure’s body double and like any good DS loyalists they have to act like that is the real deal.
Do you think the people around Stalin never noticed they were talking to one of his doubles? Of course they did. But they knew to pretend they didn’t know. No matter how obvious it was they had to pretend it was the real Stalin. These people are trained not to react if Hillary Clinton walks in with a completely new face like she did in 2019. They just go “It’s plastic surgery! I love her new face”. Hillary Clinton’s broken toe magically fixes itself in the space of a day. Smile and nod. Go on and clap like baby seals. Nothing to see here. People move on. The elite and their minions are well trained to never give anything away even if they suspect they are hanging out with the double. It’s just how their society works.
Imagine what would happen to the idiot who piped up and said in public, “Hey, you’re not the real Stalin!” Yeah, that’s a great way to get a one-way ticket to the Gulag.
So why do we get these increasing absurdities with fake Biden and Hillary’s double? Why don’t the DS minions say anything? Because they’re not supposed to. They will clap and go “Wow, you look like a new person” but continue to pretend that is the real person until they are given permission to say otherwise. None of them want to be that person who spills the beans.
Getting a body double has only become easier with deepfake, prosthetics, plastic surgery and a boatload of starving actors desperate for income. The cost of getting a double has only gotten more affordable with all the new technology.
Do you really think they wouldn’t rely on this? Many of these people like Pelosi and Hillary Clinton have a ton of health problems they’re trying to cover up. If you want to cover up your health problems then a body double would be the way to go. No leader wants to look weak. Sure, they might go for sympathy with the voters every now and then by saying they got a sore throat, but they are not going to cancel on an appearance at the G20 because they ended up with explosive diarrhea from the questionable seafood they ate last night.
No, they’ll call up their double.
How do you think Ruth Ginsburg “survived” so long?
Why do you think the DS desperately doesn’t want you to accept the idea of body doubles and how common they are among the elite? Because it opens up a can of worms. It’s logical. I’d use a body double to fill in for me if had the money for it. Why are so conditioned to think it impossible? Who conditioned us that way?
Why are you so trained to roll your eyes and reject the idea?
Think about it.
"The mental condition is strong even on our side."
--In many ways, it's worse on our side. The commies all secretly despise one another, and so no one of them is truly a revered hero. The good guys, otoh, ooze trust and love, and so are easy to fool.
For me, it always get back to: "Why did the Cabal media give Donald Trump a billion dollars worth of publicity from 2015 onward when it could have cold-shouldered him into 4% and given the Republican nomination to another mat-diving loser like Romney?"
A Theory Into Which This Puzzle-piece Fits: Trump is a white-hat double-agent. In 2015, Cabal thought he was one of theirs (he's a New York Democrat who "plays the game"), and he was selected to run a highly divisive and polarizing campaign (which he initially did). But then Trump goes off-script while Hillary is stuffed in the van, and suddenly Cabal is without both of their chosen candidates.
If you're going to use the enemy's tools against him, what better tools than his own lieutenants?
My initial thought was that he was being run to give Hillary an easy win.
Exactly right, and Q has mentioned this many times. “They never thought she’d lose.”
From the Cabal vantage point of controlling both (or so they were certain at the time) it didn't matter who won (although they'd regularly cycle between Reps and Dems to maintain the facade of "your vote matters".
I suspect that is exactly what happened. I think the real Hillary disappeared that day and was replaced from then on by her doubles. DS minions are highly trained never to out a double. It's certain death in their world. If you meet Obama's double, you smile and nod. They're scared to death to out doubles.
Q post 2 said she was detained. People also don't understand what detained means. Did you know that thanks to laws pass after 911 the government can permanently detain you? Yes, even US citizens. Even our side lives in a dream.
https://911truth.org/detain-us-citizen-indefinitely/
And for those that want a more "mainstream" site here is this one:
https://www.amnestyusa.org/can-us-citizens-now-be-detained-indefinitely/
Quote form Senator Lindsey Graham in the article:
"Mr. KYL. Mr. President, I would say to my colleague, yes. My colleague knows this case, I am confident. I think one quotation from the case makes the point clearly–in Ex parte Quirin the court made clear: “Citizenship in the United States of an enemy belligerent does not relieve him from the consequences of his belligerency.”
You need to understand that neither the primary or the double (or triple, etc) is actually that important to the Cabal. The primary/double/triple/etc doesn't actually do anything other than exactly what they're told (everything is scripted by agencies, and all the crap they sign is written by K-Street). But at least one is needed to trot out as a figurehead to maintain the illusion.
The primaries may have been "real people" fifty years ago, but by twenty years ago, they were all just actors.
Saddam Hussein had 6-7 body doubles. It was well known. Reminds me of the movie Dave. Turns out it was a huge redpill. And now Kevin Klein is married to Bill Gates.
Correction: WAS married to Bill Gates.
There is a huge difference between a double, and a replacement. Obviously doubles for royalty have been a thing for hundreds of years at least. But if someone like Biden is not Biden, then its not just a double for security, its a complete replacement that has gone on for over a couple years. Biden hasn't changed in all that time.
So either he's Joe Biden, who aged and had plastic surgery, or its a completely different person, and Joe Biden has not only never been president, but he is almost certainly dead.
Such an idea takes conspiracy and "the show" to a whole different level.
I am not saying that can't possibly be true. I am just pointing out that there is a huge difference between the concept of a body double, and a full human replacement that goes on for years.
If normies don't notice when a double steps in, then they wouldn't notice a replacement. I mean look at the current Joe Biden. His features are completely different from the original. And yet there are many on this site who can't accept the new Joe.
The shape of his head is different from the real Joe, yet people are like, "Erm... he just got plastic surgery." One of his ears is now attached to the side of his head. "Plastic surgery!" His eyes are different. "That's just age!" It gets sillier and sillier. I'm not sure it all comes from shills. There seems to be some on our side who are willfully blind to it. There is something about the idea that they can't accept. I guess it hits a primal fear in many.
Even the media can't do age progression videos to the current Joe Biden because the software obviously won't work. The new Joe is not the old Joe.
If you can't notice when someone has been swapped with a double then you wouldn't notice if they've been replaced. The replacement's features would just be seen as that of the original with time.
I think there are times when the DS couldn't use the original anymore and did replace them for either financial reasons or political or strategic. Say a Supreme Court Justice who's seat you need to hold. clears throat
We have never met these people in real life. How would we know? You can go back and edit videos and photos if you want.
Look what happens when people point out that someone's not the same. They get bombarded with wails of how they're crazy. It'd be no different if that person is replaced.
If you can swap them with a double, you can replace them completely.
Why do you think swapping with a double is possible, but using that same double to replace them is impossible What's the difference?
For one thing thanks to modern technology (prosthetics, cgi ect.) it doesn't have to be the same double. You can rotate.
Stalin had multiple doubles.
I recently showed my husband the Biden side-by-side (few years ago and current) and he said, "That's not even the same person." My husband is very perceptive and doesn't follow all of this, being rather apolitical. But people can see it. After seeing the old, past his prime pResident over and over, my brain recognizes him as who he is. It's a massive trick to play on people!
The only thing is, how do you explain the voice? He sounds EXACTLY like him. Very hard for an actor to fake the voice to that extent. Come on, man!
There ARE great voice impersonators out there. I can't think of the name, but hes on YouTube, and that guy is spot on perfect. The question is : is this a teachable skill?
^^^ This type of free-flowing, creative and critical thinking is part of why I come here. Great analysis. I would add that the prevalence of doubles in popular culture is likely more conditioning. The endless click bait nonsense about celebrity doppelgängers. Movies like Dave and The Prestige. The use of twins in stage magic since forever. I have seen a stage act up close that could only have been done with doubles/twins, and yet still I willingly suspended belief momentarily. The (geriatric) people I was with refused to accept it was done with doubles. “Ok. So the dude literally disappears in a cloud of smoke on stage and reappears standing on the edge of a balcony high up in the theatre circle, with a spotlight shining on him, ¡¡¡3 SECONDS LATER!!! and you think it’s due to the as-yet-never-proven-theory of teleportation??!!!”
You are on point, fren, and I salute you.
(I loved The Prestige! Great reference.)
Now that would be a first arrest to wake the world.
It might not even be about the money for some! Imagine being an actor and being able to pull off the "Greatest Role in HIstory" or something like that.
(I was just reminded of the producer in Wag The Dog (played by Dustin Hoffman) who set up the whole scam the movie's based on but then wanted to tell the world what a great job he did. Didn't end well for him, so it might be something an actor would never be able to brag about.)
I am my own body double.
People often mistake me for me.
As Sempersupra's stand-in for today, I concur with that. I am often mistake for the real one.
A number of years ago I read an article about Putin being replaced with a look alike. I think it said the original was dead. The look alike divorced Putin’s wife. The wife swore that this man was not her husband. I don’t know if it’s true but it might explain the much more gentile man who is in favor of democracy and not the KGB killer. Who knows.
Vocal timbre is easy to adjust now. For example, in the last year or so it's been possible to increase the speed of video playback without everyone sounding like a chipmunk. --It's being automatically handled by the software.
They are used in a temporary or dangerous situation as security precautions. But when have they ever been used as a permanent replacement? And why would they choose a body double of Xiden who clearly has dementia?
Futureworld. Great 70s movie about cloning world leaders everyone should dig up and watch. And while you're at it, watch Soylent Green too. Boy I loved those movies as a teenager.
Don't forget Pope VI
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wAxsFs9tjd4
Hell, even Avril Lavigne has one....
I shit you not....
I would think the music industry would see a big benefit in doing this. If one of their big stars gets laryngitis, which is the better option? Have her double take the stage and lip sync her songs or cancel all the performances and refund the concert goers?
I think we know which choice they make. $$$
Maybe years ago. I'll have to take another look. It's sounds interesting.
Paul McCartney.......
When the populace at large hates you, you can't afford not to have a body double. Politicians know they are hated. It seems like common sense they would use doubles in high risk situations.
In The Strange Death of Franklin D. Roosevelt, Emanuel Josephson spends a chapter on FDR's doubles. Josephson provides evidence that one or more doubles filled in for FDR, as FDR was dying. Josephson mentions Jack Young, an actor (p 238), and Winthrup Rutherford (p. 240) as likely doubles.
Josephson gives 10 reasons to believe that doubles were filling in for the dying FDR, in 1944 and 1945. (p. 242),
I do believe the two Biden photos are from decades apart, and not an actual double
I read an article le about Uday Hussein and his double. Uday was one sick puppy. He threatened the double and his family. I think he also had the guy locked up and tortured, made him get plastic surgery and if he performed poorly or made a mistake he was severely punished
In regards to Biden, would the new Biden be the double?
He looks nothing like original Biden, but he's got a natural "fuck you" air about him, like Biden.
Ok. Why would they choose a body double for Xiden who has dementia? It's not at all possible that he's gotten old and had a ton of plastic surgery to try to look younger? I'm just not buying it.
I call bullshit. Doubles and clones are a bunch of disinformation meant to discredit the very real corruption of the deep state. Joe Biden is Joe Biden and the conspiracy is that he is actually senile but they’re letting him pretend to be president.
Before the age of Internet where you can look up someone’s photo in three seconds on your smart phone, yes Stalin and General Montgomery and even Sadam’s son’s could get away with body doubles.
And if the double is sitting inside a vehicle (the Queen) or just walking across the sidewalk (HillaryClinton) for three seconds, you also may be able to get away with it. But there’s no way you can get a double that has the mimicry and acting ability to copy someone 24/7.
If Joe Biden is a double then his wife would certainly know about it or is Jill Biden also a double? Or did she agree to live with some strange man who looks like her missing or dead husband. Finally if they’re going to get a double for Joe Biden why did would the deep state get one that can’t even speak a straight sentence. Or are you going to tell me that it was Trump that secretly replaced Biden with a masterful actor who is supposed to act like they’re going senile in order to discredit the Democrats. Sure, dream on. The Democrats don’t need any help discrediting themselves.
And don’t even get me started on explaining how fucking retarded the cloning conspiracy theory is.
"Doubles and clones..."
Who mentioned clones? You inserted that yourself.
Also... so now you're claiming these stories about body doubles are made up for disinformation:
https://historycollection.com/strange-life-joseph-stalins-body-double/
https://www.historynet.com/the-full-monty.htm
So these documented cases of body doubles are just made up to you? Why do you think that?
"Before the age of Internet where you can look up someone’s photo in three seconds on your smart phone, yes Stalin and General Montgomery and even Sadam’s son’s could get away with body doubles."
You do know that deepfakes, prosthetics and plastic surgery are a thing, right?
"And don’t even get me started on explaining how fucking retarded the cloning conspiracy theory is."
Again, you brought that up entirely on your own and then began nonsensically ranting about it. I notice in your comment history you do that a lot.
Someone talks about BOOMs in a Q post and you suddenly go, "SO YOU BELIEVE IN ALIENS?!"
What they said has zero to do with all the weird crap you add in. Do you ever read and analyze logically what people are saying? Or do you just throw in an extreme strawmen like a typical redditor. I suspect your goal here is chaos.
I knew when this comment took off it would set off your type of commenter who isn't interested in any debate. You just rush over and go "OmG LIkE CrAZy."
How about you try actual debate for once?
I understand what you are saying, but the DS needs control. If their original operative stops cooperating, and they still have a use for the person, why wouldn't they replace them with a double they control.
I always think back to the speech Biden gave in Delaware before leaving for the WH for inauguration. He teared up and said he didn't want to die. Still seems mighty suspicious.
Do you deny Bill escorting Hillary's double to the inauguration?
I wasn’t at the inauguration so I didn’t see Hillary with my own eyes. I did see some photos that looked a little funny. Of course a photo can be manipulated by anyone with any agenda.
Did the inauguration even really happen in the way it was presented?
I don’t really know.
I’ve read detailed articles claiming that recently Hillary was arrested by special forces, sent to Guantánamo where she was subject to a very short trial. That news source said she was convicted of various crimes and then hung by the neck until dead.
I think it’s possible that that those events actually occurred and that she is already dead. However, simultaneously I can also accept the possibility that the articles I read were disinformation meant to give people false hope and distract them.
So, I’m not going to think about or discuss whether Hillary is alive or dead, because I can’t be sure if it’s true or disinformation.
Instead I’m going to focus my attention on real things like the reporting from multiple sources that explains how election audits are ongoing and the variety of actual evidence that the election was stolen.
OK so let’s say Joe Biden and Joe Biden are actors. Do you think their children didn’t notice or did they go out and find a former crackhead actor to replace Hunter Biden. What about the Bidens grand children? Were they threatened with death not to reveal the secret that their grandparents were replaced?
If someone replaced your mother or grandmother would you not notice? If so, I think you’re a lot dumber than the average person.
"I think you're a lot dumber than the average person".
Why can't you just discuss things? Why do you got to always name call and be nasty to people? There are plenty of people here who discuss things and ask questions without making it personal. They were polite to you, yet you feel driven to be as nasty as possible to them.
I just don't get why you feel the need to act that way and turn everything into a fight.
You tend not answer my questions.
If someone replaced your grandmother or mother would you notice?
Yes or no?
I don’t think most people would be fooled by even the best actor wearing the best prosthetics. I don’t think you would be fooled so in fact I don’t think you’re that dumb.
Your mistaken assumption is that the elite cabalists are normal everyday people.
Unfortunately they are warped and corrupted at an early age to not care about anyone but themselves. If it was their skin on the line, they will do what the CB tells them.
If you want to know if Hunter would speak out if his father was replaced by an actor is look at his laptop...
I agree with you that the members of the cabal are likely satanists and are willing to do anything to maintain their control.
However, while I could take an Oscar award winning actor, put a realistic mask on them and have them perform one speech on camera and then have that video manipulated by Hollywood experts enough to fool a lot of people, I don’t think you can replace someone for weeks at a time.
Mimicking Joe Biden’s stuttering forgetful speaking pattern and presenting all of his memories in a genuine way would simply be impossible to do 24 hours a day.
Of course, you argue “they are limiting our ability to see the double”.
Of course they limiting his public face, because the real Joe is going senile.
I've literally gone through and answered every single question in several of your posts. And yet you still insist I'm not answering your questions.
You ask me questions like "body double cloning" and then I point out that my post had nothing to do with cloning. Have you considered that maybe you're cherry-picking?
"I don’t think most people would be fooled by even the best actor wearing the best prosthetics."
Um...I'd strongly disagree. Are you not aware how advanced proshtetics are?
People wouldn’t notice, huh? Now, here’s exactly how it would work.
So, I hug my grandmother and noticed that she seems different.
I ask her “Hey grandma remember the time you took me to Disneyland”.
And she said “Oh yes of course, that was a wonderful time.”
Then I say “You never took me to Disneyland”, who the hell are you?
You may be right that prosthetics might enable an actor to fool grandkids for a little while but eventually each grandchild is going to wonder why their grandfather doesn’t remember each of their favorite ice cream flavors. Of course, with the real Joe Biden actually being senile who knows what he can remember. LOL...
I’ll stop being an asshole when other people admit to the possible existence of disinformation campaigns.
Outsiders are being paid to come in to this forum and plant various rumors, are they not?
If someone comes into this forum and claims that extra-terrestrials helped the Democrats steal the election, is that something that we should spend time discussing?
Why would we discuss that possibility when we have solid evidence that corporations like Dominion and Facebook helped the Democrats steal the election?
So, again why discuss the possibility that a Joe Biden double is destroying the United States when we have much more proof that a real job Biden is destroying United States?
Wait a minute, maybe the aliens did help the Democrats steal the election and then they gave the Democrats the technology to enable them to replace the real Joe Biden with a fake Joe Biden! If I was working for global elites I would create a post about my theory right now. Lol...
"I’ll stop being an asshole when other people admit to the possible existence of disinformation campaigns."
Fair enough. There are definitely disinformation campaigns. I fully acknowledge they exist. Now will you keep your word and stop being an asshole?
"People are being paid to come in to this forum and plant various rumors, are they not?"
They are indeed. Others posted the Reddit forums where they literally discuss sending shills and what disinfo they'll post here. You may not like Q Strategy but he has posted links to several of these that prove that it is happening!
"If someone comes into this forum and claims that extra-terrestrials helped Joe Biden steal the election, is that something that we should spend time discussing?"
I'd have to see their evidence and decide for myself if I want to discuss it. I assume others can make that call for themselves. It's called be a free-thinking adult.
"Why would we discuss that possibility when we have solid evidence that corporations like Dominion and Facebook helped Joe buy them steal the election?"
Because the Great Awakening is more important than a single election. If the sheep don't wake up, nothing will ever get better. The blind sheep let all this evil happen because they let others tell them what to think.
That must end.
"So again why discuss the possibility that a Joe Biden double is destroying the United States when we have much more proof that a real job Biden is destroying United States?"
Because if a double is in place, then who did it? This is the Great Awakening forum not the "US 2020 election forum". You might try Patriots.win if that's all you want to talk about. People here are going to analyze theories and Q proofs and whatever evidence they take an interest in.
I agree with you that the great awakening is more than just the election.
However a very important part of the great awakening is understanding the exact manipulation methods that they have used against us.
In general, I see it as my goal to make people aware of the possibility of disinformation campaigns.
Disinformation campaigns allow Normies to dismiss the crimes that we actually have proof for.
If I spend all my time trying to red pill my Aunt Betty on the Adrenochrome narrative, she will experience cognitive dissonance and not only is she going to ignore me, she now has permission to ignore any information about child trafficking.
how do we know you're not a disinfo troll paid to lead us away from getting too close to the truth, big man?
See how the game is played?
Yes and the earth is flat too, correct?
I can point out a bunch of CIA produced flat-earth videos that you should watch on YouTube.
There’s no need to pay attention to presidential election audits when something important like flat earth deserves our attention right?
P.S. No matter if current president is the real senile Biden or the fake senile Biden, if the audits are completed and validated, whomever is pretending to be President right now will be out. So why are people wasting our time with this body double cloning bullshit?
Typical redditor. Rather than discuss things you quickly create an extreme strawman. No one brought up flat earth but you immediately take it out of proportion.
I was wondering when we'd get one of you here throwing a tantrum rather than having a discussion.
No matter if the current president is the real senile Biden or the fake senile Biden, if the audits are completed and validated, whomever is pretending to be President right now will be out of office.
So why are people wasting our time with this body double cloning bullshit?
Answer that question buddy.
Are you worried that they’re going to insert a deep state body double/clone of Trump who will continue Biden’s policies?
I see you keep trying to "body double cloning". You keep not reading the post and adding in what you want it to say.
Where in my post did I mention cloning? You keep adding that inyourself. Is it hard for you to read and analyze what something actually says? You gotta keep adding in stuff that was never said?
Why are you so concerned with what others read on an open forum? Why are you so concerned with how others use their time? You come here, add extreme strawmen, and then keep adding in stuff that was never mentioned.
"Are you worried that they’re going to insert a deep state body double/clone of Trump who will continue Biden’s policies?"
Lol. What the hell are you even talking about? Maybe you should have added aliens and more flat earth while you were at it since you seem extra obsessed with those.
Thank you for one of the silliest questions I've seen so far and I've seen some pretty fun posted here by shills from reddit.
I know for a fact that many of the people who believe that body doubles are being used also believe that clones are being used. I was booted out of several chat groups on Telegram because I disagreed with their opinions on cloning and body doubles.
Now, I am going to agree with you that the use of body doubles is real. Yes, in the past before the Internet, Joseph Stalin or General Montgomery could get away with using a body double as their pictures were not available 24/7 on the Internet.
And yes that one time Hillary got really sick they tried to use a body double to walk across the sidewalk dressed as her but someone got a good picture of that double and we we caught them.
So again, I don’t disagree with you that sometimes body doubles are used. What I disagree with you about is the possibility of using a body double to replace someone 24 hours a day for several weeks in a row.
So I disagree that Joe Biden is hidden or dead and has been replaced by one of the worlds greatest actors in history. (<-THIS IS WHAT I DISAGREE WITH)
Fake conspiracy theories like flat earth are used to discredit real secrets like the fact that aliens have visited earth in the past and are probably visiting us today. Now, if you disagree with me about aliens that’s fine but I need you to go talk to the United States Navy and ask them why they think that the UFOs recorded by their pilots can outperform anything we put in the air including planes, drones and missiles.
Now, let’s pretend that you’re right and that the current resident of the White House is a body double being controlled by the deep state in order to damage the United States. Well we all know from old videos of Joe Biden that he was an idiot and a liar and we know that he is now very old. If Joe Biden was in the presidential office he would be being controlled by the deep state in order to damage the United States.
It doesn’t matter if the current resident of the White House is the real Joe Biden or the fake Joe Biden. Once the audits are done and the results of the audits are validated and accepted, the current resident of the White House will have to leave the White House.
In the meantime, every time a patriot brings up the possibility that the presidential election was stolen, anyone who disagrees with them might say “Hey do all you Q-Anons also think that the deep state replaced Joe Biden with a body double?”
So again, you don’t seem to understand how a disinformation operation really works or you’re just pretending not to understand how they work because you’re part of the disinformation operation.
Now are you going to address any of my arguments or will you just continue to accuse me of not debating fairly?
Again look for the bold capital letters above where I point out what I disagree with you about. I don’t believe it is possible to permanently replace Joe Biden for weeks at a time. I do believe that people who get plastic surgery and become senile can experience a change in appearance.
"I know for a fact that many of the people who believe that body doubles are being used also believe that clones are being used."
So? And again you misuse "fact". What happened to you elsewhere has zero to do with me now. Why do you keep trying to push your cloning obsession on me?
"So again, I don’t disagree with you that sometimes body doubles are used. What I disagree with you about is the possibility of using a body double to replace someone 24 hours a day for several weeks in a row."
Ok. And you're welcome to disagree. I have no problem if you don't think that's true. That part wasn't even posted in my main argument. I theorized about that in a reply to another commenter. You could have just come in and said you disagree with what I said in the reply, but you come in hostile for no reason.
"So I disagree that Joe Biden is hidden or dead and has been replaced by one of the worlds greatest actors in history. (<-THIS IS WHAT I DISAGREE WITH)"
Again, it's fine to disagree. Look at how you came in though. You added in things that I never said and you're still doing that. I never said anything about "replaced with one of the world's greatest actors in history". Like... wut?
You keep pushing for me to argue against statements I never made.
"Fake conspiracy theories like flat earth are used to discredit real secrets like the fact that aliens have visited earth in the past and are probably visiting us today."
Where do I mention flat earth in my post? Where?
You agree with the notion of body doubles which is what the post was about. You've already said you entirely agree with that part. The only part you disagreed with was something I wrote in a reply, NOT the original post.
" the current resident of the White House will have to leave the White House."
I fully support that.
"So again, you don’t seem to understand how a disinformation operation really works or you’re just pretending not to understand how they work because you’re part of the disinformation operation."
I don't think you get how free thinking works. We are not sheep. You just said you agree with the things wrote about in the post (not the reply) and admit Biden might be a double, but you don't think it matters and therefore should not be mentioned because you think normies won't like it.
Even Q posts were clear that this was about more than election. This was about the Great Awakening. We can't avoid ideas just because normies aren't willing to think about them. Winning an election will mean little if you don't get the Great Awakening. It will all happen again if the sheep don't wake up.
I'm going to disagree with you entirely on avoiding topics because normies won't like it.
Normies can grow the f up.
"I don’t believe it is possible to permanently replace Joe Biden for weeks at a time."
Ok. That's not a problem if you disagree. I don't have a problem with you disagreeing. That's part of a discussion. It's the back and forth.
I think the main things we disagree on is that you don't want things posted on a Q forum that normies won't like. I disagree with you on that. I think the Great Awakening is the most important goal of Q. Normies need to wake up for anything to change. We need to talk about the uncomfortable ideas or nothing will ever get better.
But you're free to disagree.
There’s no way you could get away with using doubles in the age of ubiquitous smart phones that allow you to take photos and compare them to hundreds of other existing photos.
Yes, Joe Biden looks different because he has gotten multiple plastic surgeries, he’s getting very old and also because senility also affects a person’s facial expressions and physical appearance.
Beware of wild conspiracy theories that are being used to discredit the very real corruption of the deep state and the global elite’s.
Yes NASA is lying to us about the existence of aliens but the earth is not flat.
We know for a fact that the Democrats stole the presidential election and right now audits are being done and more will be done.
Global elites want you to ignore the audits and they want you chasing around a bunch of disinformation campaign’s instead.
AND FINALLY, it doesn’t matter if it was Joe Biden or Joe Biden’s double who stole the election. The election was stolen from Trump, focus on that.
It's funny how you disregard everyone else's arguments as disinfo, but then treat your own conjecture and opinion as fact.
"Yes, Joe Biden looks different because he has gotten mutliple plastic surgeries".
That's your opinion. You do know the difference between a fact and opinion.
"He's getting very old and..." That's just your speculation.
"Global elites want you to ignore the audits." Again, your opinion. How did you decide that's what the Deep State wants? You don't know. You're speculating, yet when others discuss and theorize you are very condescending towards their opinions.
"And finally it doesn't matter if it was Joe Biden or Joe Biden's double who stole the election..." I thought you just said that was crazy talk and he only looks different because of plastic surgery. So in the end you do accept Biden might not be Biden. But you have decided no one is allowed to discuss it because you don't like us discussing it.
What a twisted view.
There is also very little evidence that someone is using a body double to replace Biden. It’s all based on some observations that people have made and their opinions on those observations. Has anyone gotten a DNA sample from the “fake” Joe Biden and tested it against his medical records? No.
The body double narrative is a distraction from other very real important issues like election audits or the use of cultural Marxism to brainwash American students.
Given the fact that election audits may remove the current resident of the White House means that your circle jerking about doubles is a waste of time.
The possibility that off world aliens have visited us in the past and today is very real. The US Navy is admitting that they don’t understand how these unidentified flying objects can outperform any existing American flight technology. However, there are a bunch of circle jerkers out there talking about how NASA is hiding the fact that the earth is flat.
Do you see how disinformation works it’s just a bunch of circle jerking.
"There is very little evidence that someone..." I'd disagree. I think there is a lot of evidence from facial analysis that he is.
You already agreed that it might be possible, but now you want a DNA sample. How would we get the real Biden's DNA sample? That would be so easy to fake.
"The body double narrative is a distraction from other very real important issues like election audits or the use of cultural Marxism to brainwash American students."
No, it's not. It's actual quite important to understanding a lot of the date in the Q posts themselves. (I plan to expand in later posts on that). Also the reason the brainwashing is so effective is people are blind to these simple tricks of the Deep State.
"Given the fact that election audits may remove the current resident of the White House means that your circle jerking about doubles is a waste of time."
I remember this same type of flawed thinking on The Donald when it was still The Donald. "Q is a waste of time!" and "We need to focus on the recounts, not this Qtard crap". Why are you pushing those same methods? You accuse me of helping disinfo, yet you push their same stuff. Did you know that?
"However, there are a bunch of circle jerkers out there talking about how NASA is hiding the fact that the earth is flat."
Why are you so obsessed with inserting random stuff in that I never said?
"Do you see how disinformation works it’s just a bunch of circle jerking."
That is not at all what is happening here. Also do you see how trying to control what other people talk about serves the Deep State? You don't like people thinking about anything but what you think is important. Same tactic I saw on The Donald whenever Q was brought up.
What next? Are you going to tell people to stop analyzing Q posts and proofs because "we should only discuss the audit and nothing else!"
No, the Great Awakening is the most important. People need to think for themselves and stop letting others tell them what to think.
OK well let me behave in a way that might help you learn something. Let me pretend to be Q:
Does disinformation exist? What is the function of disinformation? What type of disinformation would distract people from more important issues?
Is it important whether or not we know that Michael Jackson is dead or alive?
If disinformation campaigns were real where would they plant the disinformation? Would they plant disinformation in the mass media or in alternative media?
What is the difference between misinformation (lies?) and disinformation (discrediting?)?
" Let me pretend to be Q"
I personally think your Q impression is not even close to being anything like Q. Just my opinion.
What is your solution to disinformation? It seems to be censorship and not allowing people to talk about anything you have personally decided was misinformation.
I disagree.
No, it is my opinion that people should waste time talking about things that are likely disinformation when we have huge amounts of evidence that the election was stolen.
Again it doesn’t matter whether the real Joe Biden or a fake Joe Biden are in the presidential office. Both of them are there illegitimately. Once we all work together to spread the word that the audits have been done and are valid people will accept putting Trump back in the office.
I don’t need to convince them that Joe Biden is a double in order for them to accept that Trump must be put back in the office. Do you see my point?
Now, once the “fake/real Joe Biden” is put out of office and arrested for participating in election fraud, then we can go ahead and take that DNA sample and find out if he’s the real Joe Biden or not. At that point, you may be proven correct but you know what, it doesn’t matter.
So the next time that someone puts up a post where they present a great deal of evidence that shows that Joe Biden may be being possessed by a fifth dimensional lizard person you should carefully consider whether that is something you should debate on this forum.
Easy to do. People are so dumbed down and brainwashed from the mockingbird media, it only takes one shill like Anderson Cooper or Wolf Blitzer to say it is really them and all the sheep nod in agreement. People no longer believe their eyes, or logic, they believe what the media tells them to.
Some people compare old and new photos of Joe Biden and believe that he is now a different person. I don’t.
In both old pictures and new pictures of Joe Biden you can see that he has vertical dents in the sides of his forehead (2.5 inches each?). I’m guessing that when he was born, the doctor use forceps, clamped them onto the side of his forehead to yank him out and created these two dents.
It is difficult for a mask or make up to create a dent because a dent is negative space. So, in my opinion we’re still looking at a real senile Joe Biden who’s gotten a lot of bad plastic surgery and hair plugs done.
In any case, whether you think Joe Biden is a double or not is a matter of opinion, not a matter of fact.
Either way, if the recounts are validated, the fake or real Joe Biden will be kicked out of the White House.
But if you want to enjoy your body doubles narrative circle jerking, feel free.
Open the mind. Stay kind. God bless. Cheers.
Opening your mind is a great idea but at the same time we all need to be better at critical thinking. One of the best ways to discredit true conspiracy theories is to put out fake conspiracy theories.
That’s why around the years 2014 to 2016 somebody paid for and produced a number of very well-made YouTube videos to promote flat earth theory. There are a great number of reasons why no one should believe in flat earth theory, I don’t believe it.
Anyhow, after that boom in flat earth theory, anytime I brought up another conspiracy theory topic like JFK or 911, normie morons would accuse me of also believing in flat earth theory. Disinformation campaign’s like flat earth theory allow Normies to discount every other conspiracy theory.
Now, if I tell my British friends that there’s evidence on this website proving that the US election was stolen, I may be accused of being a “Q-anon who ALSO believes that Joe Biden is a body double, a clone or a reptilian.”
I’ve said in several other comments that I do believe that doubles are real as I’ve seen them. I saw Hillary’s double that time she got sick. It was obvious to most people.
However, I don’t believe that the person in the White House is a double for Joe Biden. To double for someone 24 hours a day, seven days a week would be extraordinarily difficult for even the best actor.