Found this on the No New Normal sub.....
IN TEXAS. Currently.
I like to lurk around the periphery of subjects and get perspectives from people I consider to be an original source. I suspect this behavior stems from a deeply seeded distrust in politics and media. Little did I know that I might one day become one of those sources so I figured I would hop in here and donate my perspective to others who might want to know what is happening in hospitals all across America.
A brief explanation of hospital culture In order to understand this- one must take note of the divide between the three branches of a hospital. Most hospitals in America are run by health networks today but even if they were not- they would still share a lot of the same people/employees. The three branches are Medical, Administration, Service. We don't need to discuss service personnel as they are, pretty much, what you might expect. Housekeepers, grounds keepers, security guards, a lot of temps and/or volunteers. These people are typically not that invested in the process and have a habit of just going with the flow.
Medical personnel are the core of the organization (although they are the least seen). These include physicians, specialists, technologists, therapists, nurses. They are public facing but they rarely make statements (or policies) FOR the organization. The reason they are so important is because they are the ones who generate money for the organization. A hospital's budget is primarily determined by the amount of medical personnel they are able to attract. This creates a reverse power dynamic with administration. Although administration signs the checks, the medical personnel are the ones who make that possible. During layoffs these people are never touched. Medical personnel are typically self governed from department to department. Like miniature kingdoms. They often report to a department medical director who is often a physician and they take no orders from anyone else, even ignoring other departments. These people are very career minded and they understand that their reputation to their peers is a thousand times more important than employment status with a hospital/health network. A person who is highly credentialed and holds licenses can move from hospital to hospital and their reputation will easily follow them.
Administration plays an important role in the health network as they are in charge of facilities, scheduling patients, reporting paperwork, handling insurance (god knows I don't want to do that), payroll, security, etc. These are good people and they do serve an important role in the hospital but I want to stress the difference in the power dynamic. If a health network loses the VP of operations, as well as 3/4ths of the IT department- the hospital will still be open for business the following day. But if you lose a neurologist than his entire clinic is simply gone forever. All of those patients will have to be turned away until such time as that person can be replaced.
When the virus started it was on no one's radar. We deal with viral infections all the time. We have facilities and personnel ready to intervene and treat pathologies of all shapes and sizes. Isolation rooms and positive pressure rooms ready to go. The media began screaming about this however you need to understand that most medical personnel tend to avoid politics and religion. We see thousands of patients, sometimes tens of thousands (depending on your department) so we try to keep very shallow relationships and avoid certain interactions. But we were aware of it. The alarmism had filtered through every media outlet.
Administration became aware of the virus from these sources as well, however they, as was previously mentioned, have very little contact with medical personnel and could do nothing besides engage in planning activities in case the worst happened.
Politics became involved and it was not long before Governors and Senators began contacting health networks (administration) to plan "an enhanced' response. This is where things start to go sideways. Government, effectively, ran away with administration. A good example are ICU rooms. The ICU is set up to hold thirty patients. If they have fifteen patients and you call up the Nurse Super and ask her how many ICU beds they have left she will tell you "We have thirty rooms, we have fifteen left" but this is misleading. Once the ICU becomes full, they will open the adjoining hallway and activate the "Overflow rooms" while calling in additional medical personnel to staff it. And they can continue to do this. The 30 room ICU becomes a 60 room ICU. This process is called a level 1 emergency. This is important because it is what allows a hospital to scale to the situation. If the worst were to happen (for example a plane crash) then the hospital can prepare itself to receive any number of patients. The 60 room ICU becomes a 120 room ICU. At the final levels, hospitals can construct tent cities in the parking lot if they need to. It never gets that far however because of medivac helicopters. Rather than paying medical personnel top dollar to come in on their days off or fly in from other states- they can simply offload additional patients to other hospitals in other states. But the option is there (in case the worst happens). So you can imagine everyone's surprise when the media begins talking about how "Hospital ICU rooms are NEARLY full" and "What are we going to do when it is full?" An RN associate of mine who heard this question laughed and pointed at the double doors at the end of the hallway. She said "It's that easy. Page everyone and open the overflow rooms, whats the big deal?" but that is not how the media presented it. They presented it as if we only had fifteen beds and when they were full then we would lock the doors and put a no vacancy sign on the front.
Then the incentives arrived. It was flu season and we were visited by the usual suspects. COPD, Emphysema, CHF. Patients who are already "circling the drain" often have a rough time during flue season. But this season was different because the government had announced financial assistance for hospitals. It works like this... if you have a patient who contracts the flu and has to spend a few days in the ICU then you could stand to make (after haggling with insurance) around $7k. However if your patient contracted corona virus, then the government would reimburse some where in the range of $47k. Administration began speaking to physicians and attempting to 'educate them' on this new lucrative virus. There was a bit of tension during that time because administration had to proceed in a manner which would not appear that they were pressuring physicians... while at the same time... pressure those physicians. Ultimately, they won. Over the course of a few months it became difficult to find a diagnosis of influenza. If you were going to diagnose some one with any form of respiratory failure, what did it really matter whether or not you called it influenza or covid? Well, it mattered to the tune of $40k. Outside physicians were even brought in to posthumously diagnose patients with covid based entirely on reviewing their chart. The CDC guidance had made it so easy to diagnose anyone with covid for any reason and the reward for doing so was immense. When the tests eventually arrived they appeared to help with this. They produced so many false positives it was incredible. It became a windfall for hospitals. A real cash cow. Meanwhile nothing had really changed. Patient numbers were the same as the previous year and nothing extra was required. Many of these hospitals had expected to implement bonuses for additional personnel as well as hiring incentives and overtime but all of that eventually lapsed as it became clear it would not be needed. Influenza had disappeared and everything was covid.
Mask mandates were all the rage and I may have difficulty explaining the confusion involving this. Where as I am sure you have heard about all of the failings of masks in recent months- you need to imagine what it was like to use these things professionally (as a temporary device, part of a larger procedure, for specific purposes) to using them unprofessionally "Just wear them when patients are watching". However this was not an order from administration. As I explained, administration does not give us orders. It was also not something which was born from the medical community (if there is such a thing) we have completely different procedures for dealing with viruses. This was an order from THE GOVERNOR. "Everyone needs to wear a mask when entering the hospital. It doesn't matter what kind and it doesn't matter how it is worn. Even if it doesn't work it is still better than nothing." Actually no, no it's not. It is not better than nothing. If we are dealing with a real virus then we should treat it like a real virus. Doing something for no reason is not better than doing nothing. It technically IS doing nothing.
Physician protests began but they were not protesting administration. Administration was wise enough to play the part of the neutral party. In large part these physician groups began protesting government mandates by way of "Speaking out" to the media. These protests were largely expected and silenced. Youtube channels were deleted, doctors were villainized and twitter began to sanitize these testimonials. I began to collect a lot of these videos and store them away as it became apparent they they were being actively washed from the internet by parties unknown. Although there are many who would privately agree with those voices, few are brave enough (or foolish enough) to risk making an enemy out of these external threats.
Vaccine rollout began and this is probably where things hit the fan. When the vaccine released, administration put out a memo to everyone. In partnership with the government they had agreed to pay for all staff to be vaccinated. As a result they wanted to find out how many doses they should order. This was a huge mistake on their part because they very quickly found out that most of administration were happy to receive the vaccine and nearly none of the medical personnel would receive one. This was very bad optics. Not just for the CDC but for administration as well. The media narrative had, so far, been that this was an initiative put forward by "The medical community". In order to get the population to trust the vaccine, they desperately needed medical personnel to get it first. I'm sure you all saw that video of the alaska RN who collapsed after receiving the vaccine. What was significant for many people was the fact that she collapsed but I was more curious about why they were trying to publicly show medical personnel receiving the vaccine and then advocating for it. This was a cornerstone of their narrative. It wasn't long before the federal government began talking about mandating a requirement for all medical personnel to be vaccinated. Yet at the same time they were not discussing WHY medical personnel had refused to get it. Nor where they addressing the elephant in the room which was "If medical personnel were not trusting the vaccine then why should anyone else?".
For over a year the media presented this narrative that this was the product of science. While conspiring with politicians, media personalities and hospital administrations all across the country they are only now realizing that they never had the approval of the actual people they needed. So they put pressure on administration to implement a 'Vaccine requirement for employment policy' however administration (so far at least) has largely refused. Administration can not run a hospital with no medical staff and they know that. That is called 'A hotel'. This is not a state wide phenomenon. This (so far as I can tell by way of Maryland, Virginia, Colorado, Texas, Arkansas, New Mexico) is a nation wide issue. The president can make everyone in the military get the vaccine. He can order all military hospitals to do it. Yet he can not order all private hospitals to commit financial suicide. This is currently playing out in every state of the union and everyone has run out of options. If the media makes too much of a fuss about hospitals refusing vaccination, it is going to pull down the narrative that hospitals are the ones who WANT people to get vaccinated.
What strange times we live in.
Over 90% of the physicians where I work took the vaccine. There was and continues to be tremendous pressure put on all employees by administration.
I will disagree about administration being forced by governors. Ours is and continues to be driven by greed and the love of power. Nursing is only 60% vaxxed here. I believe there will soon be a push to mandate it. This will create a shit storm.
I truly can’t believe how many have fucking sold out to the propaganda. It’s a sad time for the medical community.
Same where I work. Our new CEO just put out a strong statement about the importance of getting vaxxed.
RE: "It’s a sad time for the medical community." Yes it is!! I work in healthcare and they have mandated we ALL get the death jab! And of course, it's all about the money - NOT the human life involved. I'm just disgusted with the whole thing!
Same! 😠🤯
I believe less than 50% of our nursing staff are (large network); they’ve got a mandate that will be in effect beginning of September and we just had a 1000 person protests at one of their special, off campus admin buildings where they have their secret society meetings.
My hospital and my husbands just mandated it as well. We haven’t been able to get any protests going at my hospital...we’re in a very blue area and our hospital is beyond “woke”. 🙄 My husband’s hospital just came out with theirs today so I’ll be interested to see if any protests get started. We also live in a very blue and liberal area so I think are vax rates are higher compared to other areas in the country
Just remember..... they need you and the rest of that unvaxxed 40%.
It’s ironic that it seems like more doctors have taken the shot vs the rest of medical personnel. My husband and I haven’t gotten it as well as several co-workers, managers, etc and those are just the ones we know. Yet almost all of the doctors we work with have taken it. It makes me question even more their knowledge as doctors. My hospital and my husbands just mandated the vax.
I am a RN, who no longer works in a hospital setting, but outside the hospital. For the following reasons I would not take the Covid shot:
We love deplorable nurses!
Haha! Deplorable nurse, I can definitely live with that label! I wonder if I can get that on my name tag. 🤔😂
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Wow. Thank you for this information. I don’t trust doctors any longer. Most of them. I wish our future doctors would be schooled on natural healing, maintaining health, and most importantly, getting big pharma out of their back pockets.
Hopefully more begin to feel the same way as you do as they wake up. I have a friend that drives around all day to people's home to perform IV treatments. The reason 90% of the people need the IV's are a result of either long term pharmaceutical medicine use or vaccines.
Lol, wish harder. There's no money in telling someone to go chew on some bark, when they can just look that ish up on the internet.
[Aspirin, derived from bark, 3500 years ago https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28106908/#:~:text=The%20story%20of%20the%20discovery,series%20of%20pivotal%20clinical%20trials.]
There HAS to be a PRESCRIBEABLE PILL OR CREAM OR PALLIATIVE at the end of a doctor's visit, or the "doctor" is no longer useful.
This current shift in medicine I believe started with the passage of the ACA. Many old school clinicians that were unwilling to be dictated to about how to practice either retired or went into subscription funded structures. What autonomy physicians used to operate under has been pared away. The emphasis is on "evidence based" medicine - but who decides what that entails? Everything is data mined and clinicians have been restricted to operating within a well defined box. This does not allow for critical thinking and leeway in utilizing alternative options that previously would have been considered. The ACA in many ways handcuffed clinicians. My advice is to stay clear as much as possible and educate yourself. You will be much healthier.
Good call on both aca and 'evidence based'. Even before covid I saw how some studies are downplayed and others pushed, I wasn't suspicious enough then to see the patterns. Always follow the money.
Great high effort posts in here medpedes!
I agree. Great post. I have been around long enough fren to see this de-evolution of what used to be called practicing medicine. The ACA started the weeding out process and I think this jab nonsense will pretty much finish the process drawing lines in the sand. It is becoming increasing difficult to continue when the "science" is forcing clinicians into situations that they know are not right. Where do you draw that line?
For the moment, I am fortunate enough that I can be on the sidelines waiting to see how this will all shake out - but it does not look good. Any jab is not an option for me - medically and morally. In addition, I cannot in all good conscience advise patients to submit to a procedure that I know the risks far outweigh the benefits. There may come a point where just having a license will require loyalty to a particular "religion." Seriously, we need to figure out a parallel economy involving medicine, education, finance, digital, etc. Until then, we are going to continue to be at the mercy of the oligarchs.
I sidelined myself too, but I'm only prehospital. Unfortunately this is part of the black hat playbook, good people get sick of the crap and bail. Just like law enforcement and a lot of the rest of America. Mil is the only way to fix it all.
But hey if you're MD with a practice you can write medical exceptions, make a real difference for people.
I would hope that future doctors preach the importance of healthy eating. We may think they do that now, but they really don't. Too much sugar, too many carbs, too many refined foods in our diets. These doctors need to stop pandering to the "fat-acceptance" cry babies and start spitting straight facts: that our diets are the #1 thing we can easily change to make ourselves healthier.
Yup! Same thing at our hospital.
Thank you...I enjoyed reading your assessment and feel that you gave us some insight on what is really happening. Several family members are involved in the medical profession and all this rings true. The hospitals made LOTS of money by diagnosing covid and putting people on ventilators knowing that it was often a death sentence for them if not used properly. Unfortunately the CDC still wields much influence, even though they have many conflicts of interest and have shown what their agenda really is. I know there are many good people working in the medical field but there are also many who are not honorable and are ruled by money or an agenda.
Well written. Thanks!
It al boils down to follow the money. The media narrative is bought and paid for. The question is by who? In this case the trail isn't a direct line. But if you look you can see it. Pfizer, Moderna J&J, Astra Zenica all make big money when governments buy their poison and indemnify them against harm. Meaning, they can't be sued for any after affects of the vaxx. So we see here the nexus of big pharma and CDC and FDA colluding. Big pharma gets money. The government players making decisions get kickbacks in many ways. Power hungry leftists sign on and enjoy their share of the spoils and the power they crave.
This is similar to the military industrial nexus. The brass sits there dreaming of new things they want, be it aircraft carriers, new fighter planes, new missiles, etc. They lobby government who always seems to find agreement when lots of money is involved. All the right pockets are lined so things proceed. Promises of consultant jobs when this general or admiral retire, high paid lobby jobs after a politician leaves office.
The difference with the vaxx is it does little to nothing for the people getting it. It doesn't prevent getting Covid. It doesn't prevent anyone from spreading it. So what does is really do? Makes people rich. Gives hospitals financial cushion. Who doesn't want more money in their operating budget?
All of this is paid for by taxpayers or put on the unlimited federal credit card. It's simply a case of rich getting richer at the expense of the little guy taxpayer. And the real joke in the case of Covid is obvious to anyone with a brain. The vax was totally unnecessary had HCQ been used early or Ivermectin along with Azithromycin, Zinc, Vit. D. Had doctors just treated patients with these meds early when symptoms were recognized, the disease would not have advanced to the need for hospitalization. Simple. It really is just that simple.
If and when Trump gets back in office, I hope this simple truth leads to a break up of big tech, big pharma, big media, big everything. Big leads to corruption on a massive scale. We need to remove the ability of politicians to weaponize everything. We need to firewall money from politics, money from medicine, politics from medicine, etc. By firewall, I mean with laws so strict and consequences so dire as to put them on a level of premeditated murder with the same penalties. Dis-incentivize and decouple the DC revolving door between government and industry, military and industry, government and pharma, government and technology. It can be done. All it takes are patriots to understand what got us here today and re-configuring our laws to stop the problems so they cannot happen again.
When money is the biggest incentive to commit crimes, we need bigger penalties, like the death sentence to be the dis-incentive. Money won't do you any good when you're dead. It might sound draconian but big crimes should carry the biggest penalty. Covid was a big crime and should never happen again.
Not to toot my own horn but I boiled down the whole inflated COVID response to three words at the beginning of this whole brouhaha: “Follow the money.”
That said, this was an informative read. Hope (but doubt) that someone/some group will be held responsible for this crap.
EXACTLY!!!!!
Long read, but I stayed with you til the end. Thank you for your point of view. It's what many of us already knew, but reading it from a person in your position just cements it for me.
b-b-b-but mediamatters told me this was a conspiracy theory!
https://www.mediamatters.org/laura-ingraham/fox-behind-trumps-conspiracy-theory-doctors-are-inflating-coronavirus-death-count
I don't care about where this all started. Who has the most blame assigned. It anything else along those lines. This is tyranny at it's ugliest and we HAVE to resist. Any "medical professionals" who tooky in h jab without doing their due diligence is complicit. So, this means ALL the hospitals, "administration," the Drs and Nurses themselves, the pols and bureaucrats, etc. They may not have had a hand in designing SARS-CoV 2 and COVID, but they are ALL responsible for carrying that narrative past the goal line. They are also responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths.
They need to be dealt with, too. Even if it means punishing a while generation's worth of "medical pros." We CANNOT let this happen again.
Thank you. Makes sense. It really seems to be about money.... Not about health. Control of health care is a way to control the citizens. Make everyone depend on the government.
It's also necessary to distinguish the "doctor level" people from the "certified nurse's assistant level" people when talking about medical personnel. Both of them, to be clear, are absolutely critical when it comes to running a hospital, but the doctors are kind of locked in. Even if they don't want to get the vaccine, it's increasingly clear that their lives will be made miserable. And where are they going to go?
CNA level staff have other options. In fact, at the moment, in many cases they have better options. Options that pay more, don't require security checks and certifications, and don't have an administrator trying to inject you with experimental drugs. Some lower tier staff could - quite literally - get a pay upgrade by switching to a job at McDonald's. Which coincidentally would not involve working with sick people all day. The local McD's even offers a signing bonus!
It's the lower level staff that will make or break hospital vaccine mandates.
Coincidentally I've heard locally (I am in a "high outbreak panic" state) that hospital personnel are being stripped from other assignments to work with Corona patients. (I have family that are, shall we say, fairly high medical maintenance and they were basically told "good thing you're getting your diagnostics done now, they're going to be shutting down this office to move people to covid ward").
I would view this not so much as "omg hospital full" but, as the article says, a hospital room without the lower tier staff is just a shitty, expensive hotel room. If they're having to transfer personnel to keep staffing up, then the hospitals' policy of treating their CNAs like trash and now demanding to use them as test subjects is going to bite them hard.
This is fantastic stuff. The medical community that I know refuses to get the vax.
And many are still trying this euthanasia, and sometimes succeeding.
The current wave of DELTA variant has emerged and is being super-spread by vaccinated people to other vaccinated and some unvaccinated, but rarely to those with natural immunity.
But that doesn't fit the narrative, so it is ignored or blatantly lied about by the media, who truly are the enemy of the people.
"Do NO Harm" "Do XX Harm" There, fixed it for ya.. 😒
All while the left-leaning megalomaniac CEO continues to Twitter whore and shame those who choose not get get the vax by calling them “uneducated.” He genuinely believes that not having a college education is the reason for the hesitancy. Dipshit.
He is truly the biggest fucktard I have ever seen and he has a sidekick ID doctor who is almost his fucking equal when it comes to serial narcissism. They even coined him our city’s very own Fauci and awarded him a plaque.
I’m sure some might even guess who they are. They are essentially the Hardly Boys from South Park, only dumber.
Very educational! Thanks for posting this. Kinda explains everything we saw.
Great post! Thank you u/Lightworker15/
They'll use high pressure sales tactics for the vax with your job on the line, but it's like op says. Medical personnel are the goose that lays the golden egg. If they even hint at leaving, the entire sales pitch for the vax goes kaboom.
See this post
https://greatawakening.win/p/12jvuHNHBk/whoa--my-aunt-was-told-she-had-t/c/
Thank you so much for this. I get mixed messages from my own doctors, and it's great to see why they are so conflicted. Money talks!
This is a fantastically valuable post!! Thank you so much. We who are not in this system really know very little about such things. This really explains it to us. Wow! So great!! Saving it!
Thanks for sharing this perspective.
Great read, thank you.
ADMINISTRATIVE: Make the rules in the Board room without input from those the rules will impact. Exemptions arent even discussed until a situation arises. Always based on making more money. Even though the $ doesnt reflect improvement in facility or care, but their paychecks are crazy.
MEDICAL: My doctors enter the exam room and go straight to the computer. He reads off questions to ask me. When I ask him something he googles it. I told him I could do that myself.
This group hates the most. They like the 'yes doctor, no doctor, anything you say doctor prestige. But correct them they run out and slam the door. But they stand to lose the most. Though they are paid well they still have mortgages on their estates, their kids have to have the latest model cars, wives in minks, but when rona hit no patients in the office, inpatients greatly reduced depending on specialty. Since residency they've come to depend on Pharma's freebies. Now depend on Pharmas kickbacks on shots.
STAFF: The hardworking, underpaid personnel who care the most. Nurses sometimes stand up to doctors orders. Techs bring questionable results to the doctors attention. Even housekeeping ask patients if they need anything,
Correct!
My physician recently changed her practice to another location, luckily near enough so that I can still see her. I don't really feel comfortable getting into a discussion of her personal reasons why she made the switch, but this post confirms a lot of what I suspected. Thanks.
Keep holding the line fren.
From the "news" in Omaha today:
https://www.wowt.com/2021/08/12/nebraska-health-care-systems-require-vaccinations/
Can we get a sticky plz
My last day working was yesterday at a Hospital which mandated the vaccine last Wednesday. I refuse to be mandated to take the jab. The doctor I worked with in the beginning of the plandemic would say comments like “this is a hoax” “this is all hype” “we don’t need a vaxx” bleh bleh... then all of a sudden this year he is all about that vaxx and how we all need to get vaxxed to end this plandemic. He even told me that he was the wrong guy to talk to against the vaxx. I know it had to do with some incentive or kickback he has... influencing people to get vaxxed... idk 😡😡😡Anything for money.
This deserves a sticky imho
I'd seek religious exemptions and medical exemptions when you can get one. Most establishment doctors are too cowardly to stick their neck outs with medical exemptions, but a few can not be touched by the propaganda.
If you've gotten blood clots in the past or have any kind of auto-immune disease like Hishimotos, peanut allergies, etc., you shouldn't be taking these vaccines.
If you claim a religious exemption and they fire you, they are opening themselves up to legal action. It can be shown that aborted cell fetus lines were used in the creation of all these vaccines. So religious exemptions for most Christian faiths are not unreasonable.
As someone who works in the medical field I found your post spot on and easy to understand for the layman who isn’t in the medical world. The only thing I don’t agree with is your very last paragraph about hospitals not mandating it. Almost every big hospital in the metro Denver area have now put out a vaccine mandate w/ no major pushback yet, that I’ve seen. The number one trauma hospital in LA is mandating the vaccine and we have several friends that work there and haven’t heard of any protests as of yet. I have been hearing of more and more hospitals across the nation joining the mandate clowns. I do agree that they are lying about the number of medical personnel who have received the clot shot but I haven’t heard a collective protest from the medical community over mandates. I pray I’m wrong and it becomes a nationwide outcry but so far it just seems to be pockets of people protesting in random cities and I would love to see some organization for a big medical rally like the political rallies President Trump does.
I love your part about using any mask as it's better than nothing. Also, what about all these masks we see laying around on the ground. They could be infected with the most "lethal" "virus" we've ever seen, so let's just let them lay around for anyone to pick up? right?🙄 I told my SIL who happily got jabbed that if you want to know what's going on in a hospital, ask some nurses. I told her, I know many nurses who refuse to get the jab, why would that be? because they are seeing first hand the effects of the jab, that's why.