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posted 4 years ago by Quelle 4 years ago by Quelle +587 / -0
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– swimkin 19 points 4 years ago +19 / -0

I am fortunate to be retired. But I am also on Medicare and Social Security.

After they come after the workers ... they will come after the retirees who won't get vaxxed and most likely punish us through control of these Government run assets.

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– Gnometard 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Those don't feed you.

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– VetforTrump 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Let them. They can have it all I'll find a way to live.

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– SJBHamilton 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

What scares me is that the Xiden admin will take that as a need to polish up the H1B visa program and let in floods of people from elsewhere.

Think it's already happening with health care workers.

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– ARandomOgre 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Doesn't surprise me. The population of people who has held out this long from the vaccine is going to continue holding out. Most other people have already either gotten it without issue, or had already decided it's not worth losing their job over.

Sort of like saying, "95% of high school dropouts don't think formal education is important." Well, sure. Look who you're sampling.

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– ARandomOgre 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

Not loaded language, and no equating, but it is an unintentionally insensitive analogy. I will do a different one.

"97% of Q supporters believe Donald Trump will return to office before 2022."

I'm just pointing out that the number isn't nearly as shocking when you take into account the sampling context.

Of course 70% of people who have held off being vaccinated this long would quit if they no longer had the option to continue working unvaccinated. I'm surprised it's not higher.

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– RS34ME 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

Funny you mention job postings... I got an email from a recruiter looking for someone in my line of work (advertising) to work for Houston Methodist Hospital. You know the hospital in TX where they just fired roughly 150 nurses for not taking the shot. I couldn't help but laugh at the job post.

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– ThePowerOfPrayer 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

It is higher. The polls are rigged.

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– ARandomOgre 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Possible. Or, 30% of people who have held out this long are not willing to lose everything, and are just really, really hoping that they don't eventually have to make that choice, because they'll give in when it comes to that.

Which sounds plausible to me. Some people have the space around them to give a middle finger to their jobs, but not everyone is in that position.

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– PatriotFL1978 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Agree. A chunk of 30% will cave if / when it comes down to it. With a huge chunk of Americans living paycheck to paycheck not everyone can just lose their job. Even with a great job market 2-3 weeks between jobs is enough to set half the country back into financial ruin. If your options are get vaccinated and continue to have a roof over your head, or cave and lose housing plus god knows what else, a majority will cave, and while I don’t agree, I don’t blame them.

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– VetforTrump 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Cave if they want. When they get sick and can't work it will be a real nightmare for them. Sick, no help from the people who made you sick. I've no sympathy for cowards.

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– KickingPugilist 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

This I agree with. I've seen people crumble once FDA came out with that premature approval, and people who told me I was doing the right thing by not caving, and then they cave as soon as it comes rearing its ugly end around them.

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– VetforTrump 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Bottom line is I don't want a vax. So I. Not getting one. I don't care if that vax could save the world, I'm not taking it.

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– ARandomOgre 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

I speak anecdotally, as someone who has gotten two Pfizer shots back in January, along with all of my coworkers, and their coworkers. We're all still kicking strong.

Maybe other people are having problems, but the only data I've seen allegedly supporting that has been VAERS, and VAERS data literally cannot be used to support that conclusion, based on the how-to guide to the VAERS data on its own page.

I will let you know if I start having health problems, but given that I was one of the earliest vaccinated individuals around, I would have expected to have the same problems by now that you guys think other vaccinated people are having when they got it done later than I did.

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– ARandomOgre 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

It's not that VAERS data is unreliable for what it's supposed to be.

It's that it doesn't collect verified data.

I've written pages and pages on this, but if you look at the how-to guide, you get three important pieces of info:

  1. Nothing, NOTHING is verified before VAERS publishes it into the numbers.
  2. Anyone, ANYONE can submit a VAERS report for anything they even remotely think might be a side-effect from the vaccine.
  3. Doctors are REQUIRED to submit reports on ANY potential side-effect from the vaccine, regardless of whether or not they think the vaccine is actually the cause.

Which means that the vaccine could literally be absolutely, 100% perfect and safe, and we'd still see the VAERS system chock full of reports.

Because it's not designed to see whether the vaccine is killing people. It's designed to established a baseline of "garbage data" in order to detect localized spikes that might show a bad batch or a generalized trend.

The baseline data is going to show thousands of deaths and injuries, and not a single one of them is proven to have anything to do with the vaccine. This is a normal part of data collection when you're dealing with hundreds of millions of data points.

Which is why no actual data scientists are freaked out by the VAERS data. Because they know they're looking at a baseline that was built-in by design to the VAERS system.

Everyone is encouraged to submit everything for any reason, and nothing is verified. That equals a baseline of garbage reports. Stuff that rises ABOVE that baseline is what they're interested in investigating.

They've made it openly available so other scientists can use that data. The data is not curated to be used by laypeople to try to determine whether the vaccine is killing people, because the data, due to the way it's collected, literally can't be used to come to that conclusion. It's impossible given how VAERS is set up.

The clinical trials were designed to see if the vaccine was dangerous. VAERS is used to look for trends above a sea of garbage reports.

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– ARandomOgre 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Doesn't need to be a false report, though.

If I take the vaccine, and a month later get the sniffles, I can file a VAERS report and say that the sniffles are a potential side effect of the vaccine.

VAERS would then add that into the system. You'd see the numbers go up.

The only way you can file a false report is maliciously. But a garbage report doesn't have to be false.

Because, again, of the way that VAERS is set up.

Currently, under the VAERS rules, a 98 year old alcoholic who survived liver cancer dies in the hospital a month after getting the vaccine, and the doctor is encouraged to submit a VAERS report.

Even though we can guess this individual probably didn't die of the vaccine.

You see the problem? That's not a false report, and given the way that VAERS is set up and the data it's collecting, that would be a 100% legitimate reason to submit to VAERS.

And since nothing in VAERS is verified, people here would see the number of vaccine "deaths" in VAERS jump up by one. Because of this report.

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– deleted 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0
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– KickingPugilist 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Aren't deaths supposed to be verified with proof such as death certificate or things of that nature? At least the deaths component, not sure about other side effects.

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– ARandomOgre 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

This is not something I know enough about to answer directly.

I do know enough to know that people die all the time with an assumed cause of death. And that further questions might cause an investigation.

But when something gets sent to VAERS, all it's saying is that someone died or got sick within some window after getting the vaccine.

That's it. Could be a cough. Could be a fever. Could be death. But anything that can't IMMEDIATELY be ruled as 100% not related to the vaccine? It's a potential VAERS report.

And that's not even considering the fact that anyone, including non-medical people who are evaluating their own symptoms using WebMD, can also file these reports.

"My eye is itchy and dry and I got the vaccine last week."

That's a legitimate report. They file, VAERS uploads the data.

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– realeagle 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

lol at wanting to ignore the only government vaccine reporting system because it COULD be false in favor of your own personal hypothesis

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– GoodWins 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I have two relatives who died from the vaccine and know many others with adverse effects, primarily bleeding complications.

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– VetforTrump 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Same, my own 84 yo mother ended up getting a hysterectomy, my son in laws 82 yo grandmother had the exact same thing happen.

I can't understand anyone who comes here to learn taking the jab. I just can't. It's insane with what we know.

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– buster2209 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

'Americans with PhDs are most reluctant to get vaccinated against COVID'

Electrical engineer here.

I don't want the clot shot because I have an IQ well into triple digits.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/americans-with-phds-are-most-reluctant-to-get-vaccinated-against-covid/ar-AANjRHh

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– ARandomOgre 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I've seen that and was immediately suspicious of it when I looked at the data.

One reason: open survey.

I hate surveys. Especially when you're giving them to a group of people who are demographically unlikely to provide you accurate information, on purpose.

Let's say that right now, I were to re-run this survey. Here. Among you vaccine skeptics.

Would it be wrong for me to worry that perhaps the people here might falsely claim to have a PhD to legitimize their opinion on the vaccine? In order to make it look like people with high levels of education were supporting the position of this community?

Of course, to know whether this was an actual risk, we have to look at how the data was collected and... oh, it's a Facebook survey.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.20.21260795v1.full.pdf

So they used a Facebook survey, asked people their thoughts on the vaccine, and asked people to self-report their education level. And shockingly, there were a HUGE number of PhDs answering these questions on this random Facebook survey.

The Masters degree people came in as expected. The regular college grads as expected. But a fuckton of PhDs, and a drastic change in opinion. As if a bunch of anti-vax people labeled themselves with the highest possible degree to manipulate the survey.

Which, let's be honest, is a perfectly viable worry. Hell, I've seen that kind of brigading called for on this very site.

Anyway, this paper hasn't been peer-reviewed or published yet, and I imagine other researchers will tear this paper apart on that basis when the time comes. But we'll see.

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– buster2209 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

It's okay to be wrong about things, it's how we grow.

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– ARandomOgre 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Agreed.

If you're proven wrong, you've only gotten smarter as a result. Win-win.

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– GSM2Gains 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Please be aware...you bragging about a high I.Q. will cause some to believe your an evil soy-boy (PhDs have a TERRIBLE track record of evil and stupidity.)

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– VetforTrump 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Lmao, IQ. Dumbest fucks I know have phds and brag about their IQs. Can't survive five minutes outside their discipline. I won't take the Vax so I guess my IQ must be through the roof.

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– BoberFett 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

You know what else most people get without issue?

Covid

Now go get 12 boosters, simp.

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– 94f450d 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Sooooo,cuz I'm a high school drop out,I'm an idiot?

I'll tell you some truth.the "educated" people i know and deal with are some of the dumbest motherfuckers I've ever met. Only thing they got going for them is deep pockets.

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– ARandomOgre 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

I literally made it up off the top of my head as an example of a headline that uses sampling bias in order to create a shocking statistic. I did not mean to hurt any feelings.

And to be fair to myself, the impression I've gotten from Q people is that MOST of you don't think formal education is trustworthy or valuable, even among your graduates. I'd be interested if it was actually a controversial stance around here, because that's not what I've seen.

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– ARandomOgre 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

You not valuing the things that I value does not make you less of a person to me or worth insulting.

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– VetforTrump 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Well sir, they've demonstrated that the people who run our higher education are pretty much commie fucks indoctrinating people.

I'm not only well educated but I'm highly experienced in my field. I simply didn't get my education from a formal brainwashing factory.

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– FredFlinstone 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

my exact sentiment about the educated dumbfucks i know too. Every "educated" person i know got the clotshot. Every educated person i know is having health issues now, including complete bone marrow transplant.

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– Factfiler 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Educated liberals, not all educated people. It depends on you're world view. But most of the covid supporters are educated, white libs.

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– rednekhipychik 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I am a shuttle driver for a prominent auto service company. I caught "covid" at work. It was hellish, I ran fever for 15 days, but I had prepared with hcq from AFLCCC as well as ivermectin, C, D, Zinc, Magnesium, Quercetin, and NAC. 3 weeks later, I'm good. I decided a no- nonsense approach was best for me. I called and told them I had covid, I knew that's what it was since others at work were also getting sick with it at the same time who had tested +. I told them I would not be getting tested since my husband had just gotten tested, +, and they told him to go home and take Tylenol. What's the point? Not playing these games. Told them I would follow guidelines for isolating and return based on symptoms and fever. Told them I would not be masking when I returned and if they couldn't deal with that, then they could cut me loose. They were all good. Went back to everyone wearing masks and I walked in like "NATURAL IMMUNITY!" I don't mask when I'm driving people in the vehicle, I don't mask in the store, I don't mask anywhere. Just stop playing the stupid game that is hurting all of us. Most employers do not want to lose a good employee.

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– VetforTrump 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Flu sucks. Glad we have the cure now.

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– Gnometard 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I like how you put covid into quotes then describe being sick for 3 weeks.

The only time I've been sick that long, H1N1. When I had the coof, December 2019, was almost 2 weeks.

Doctors have always said to me that at 3 days, you see a doctor.

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– libtards_r_stoopid 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Fire me bitchez

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– Shady19 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

It’s getting more and more contentious in the military. I would like resolution before a general courts martial convening authority becomes necessary.

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– 400DollarHandcart 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I work for giant chemical manufacturer, my plant would have to all but shut down if they mandated the shot. A lot of people have already gotten it but a lot of us have not. They are already facing a hiring problem with many, many employees hitting retirement age over the next year or so. We are very highly trained and skilled at what we do. It takes years to learn and master these jobs. Still, I feel like they will require the jab, because they value virtue signaling much more than making money.

Edit: speln

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– VetforTrump 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Sounds like a business opportunity.

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– buster2209 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Yes, that's exactly how it works. Glad you employed your 'street smarts' on this one. Kek

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– blood-stone 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

First, off the main reason I will not get a 'vaccine' that they are pushing is that it not even truly vetted, a lot of unanswered questions. Second we know that there is a lot of evidence, that says they know about the side effects and still pushed it. Third, The haven't really explained what it (the vaccine) is supposed to do that is beneficial. I equate it like this, we want you to take this experimental virus to fight this other virus that we have no actual information on other than "in silico". In other words it all on a computer. They are keyboard jockeys saying that its a virus that stops a virus. Except it doesn't. You can still catch covid after being injected and hence the reason for Boosters..."We got the dosage wrong"...(sure they did, go back to your experimental lab rats who agreed to this and find out the dosage and come back to me in five years when you have actual data,I will pass) Also these vaccine's are NOT immunization, stop pretending it is. Also the EUA are all null and void at this point if there is something that ACTUALLY works.(Ivrumectin) The fact that they haven't revoked or at least acknowledge there is a possible 'cure' tells me that they knowingly are perpetrating a falsehood on people around the world, and inflicting fear when there is no need to do so. If this was a real pandemic, every single person would have experienced the truth not this invisible made up fiction.

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– Donaldiscool 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Well said! It is a well thought out scam perpetrated on the world.

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– mahcaw 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Okay

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– Azorca 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I am considering sending an email to my sons boss if this sheet gets any more "real" and he submits.....

Dear Asshole, (not his real name) My son informs me that you are attempting to coerce him into doing something he really really doesn’t want to do. Namely, submitting to getting the supposed “vaccine”. He is in fear of losing his job and his livelihood and considering getting the jab based solely on your pressure which you are putting on him. I want you to know that, as his father, I have advised him not to do this as it is, in my opinion, un-american to force someone, with this kind of pressure, to submit to an experimental medical procedure. That said, I want you to know that if he submits and there is any serious outcome or something worse from this procedure, I will hold you personally responsible. Not lawsuit, finger pointing, doxing or whatever responsible, but personally responsible for his sickness, poor bodily condition or demise. This means, Mr. Asshole that if I lose my son or he becomes sick or disabled in any way after receiving this treatment even though you were “following orders” I will blame you, personally. Have a nice day, Signed Me.

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– VetforTrump 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

And i will hunt you down and take you off this planet. I say that because I seriously would.

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– Azorca 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I like that addition to my message,Vet. Thank you. let's see what happens.

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– FreddyKr00ger 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Don't quit, sue them!!!

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– numina18 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Too bad I'm my own boss. No fun there.

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– buster2209 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

What will I ever do if people I have never met, and probably will never meet, have a bad image/impression of me...

Once you divorce yourself from the realm of public opinion, you become a little more free.

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– Sodium_miner 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I will not quit, they’ll have to fire me.

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– buster2209 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

No, that was you creating a strawman

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– PhDinNY 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Although big pharma is exempt from lawsuits related to the covid shots, it would seem that companies who require the shots are wide open to lawsuits from employees who die or have a really bad reaction to the shots.

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– Marius 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Thank God I am retired! You working folks are in the forward trenches of this war. I am back at HQ. We will prevail!

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– DemonDMT 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

godamn right

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– Cowpill 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I am making them fire me.

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– VetforTrump 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

If I said you had to be hit in the head with a baseball bat in order to work would you do it?

It may not kill you. But then again it might.

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– GSM2Gains 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Hello Frens, I quit rather than take the jab at my last employer. I am sure I will find another job soon, due to the fact that those who took the jab (the employer has found out) are a liability working on gas turbines so I will be o.k. I have been spending my time handing out fliers to the sheeple, trying to get them to wake up, and giving them alt. news sources. Pray with me about this please...

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– Gnometard 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I'm not quitting. They gotta fire me, and without any official notice of such I'll keep showing up.

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– Kamalas_a_Bitch 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Wow even the double vaxxed will quit in solidarity probably now because many will need to get triple vaxxed to comply with a mandate.

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– Crossi2u 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

That’s exactly what I’m doing! My parents didn’t raise a quitter!! 🤟🏼

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– Cheesemaker 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

The other 30% won't quit. They will get fired.

The first 70% needs to realize they should also make them fire them.

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– pause_when_agitated 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Exactly this. Do not quit, make them fire you and demand it it writing.

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– DemonDMT 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I'll record it on my phone for later lawsuit.

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– VaccinesCauseSIDS 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

That way the company pretty much has to fire everyone on the same day. Im sure that will work out just great.

Remember folks, you have the labor, all the boss has is money

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  • Mods will issue NO warnings, followed by temporary bans and/or permanent bans. DO NOT GRIEF THE MODS.

  • Keep posts related to topics Q has raised or that are current.

  • Keep post duplication (especially from other .WINs) to a minimum.

  • HIGH EFFORT, HIGH-INFO posts only! Please respect other readers' time. Please use descriptive titles. No URLs in titles, pls. No clickbait.

  • No fame-fagging; no, "your" post did not get removed! Were you the original author?? Eyes on the prize, people!

  • Memes encouraged, but no low-quality, low-info posts.

  • Keep it honest and accurate.

  • GAW Supporters ONLY. (Sorry, the train had no brakes.)

  • Handshake noobs will be scrutinized by their Q knowledge, sincerity, and respect.

  • Remember, your conduct here represents the Q movement! OUR ENEMIES ARE WATCHING!

  • Please direct all complaints to modmail first!


Resources


WELCOME TO THE DIGITAL BATTLEFIELD


"River of Search" script:


GAW post formatting tips


Q Research (Q only posts at 8kun)


Q post archives (qagg.news) others 1 2 3 4


Browse Drops from the beginning


QProofs.com


Learn to read the Q map


Book of Q Proofs v1.3 (pdf)


Law of War & Majic Eyes Qnly Resources


Trumps twitter archive


POTUS: The Calm Before The Storm


Pedosta and DNC dumps


GIFs & QPosts


Poll Post Format


SPY ON US! See: mod Logs


The Greatest Show on Earth!


New to Q? "The Earth Chronicles Ep 12: Q & The White-Hat Op: What's Real, What's Not?"


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