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BBC: “Nearly 13% of hospital patients with confirmed Covid were unvaccinated.” You Mean, 87% Were Vaccinated? (granitegrok.com)
posted 4 years ago by ashlanddog 4 years ago by ashlanddog +472 / -0
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– Sadness 36 points 4 years ago +36 / -0

Considering an 82-90% vaccination rate, depending on sources, I'd say that the vaccine does not work, because the percentage of vaccinated people is correlated with the percentage of hospitalised people with Covid. What a bummer, for those who went and got jabbed - it does nothing. Oh wait, it does, but that will be a too bitter a pill to swallow for them.

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– ashlanddog [S] 18 points 4 years ago +18 / -0

The truth has painful side effects....

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– magachudd 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Yup. It hurts.

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– Gnometard 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

The thing is, they only claimed their vaccines would reduce chances of bad outcomes. That's not something that's easy to prove.

The issue is that the media control (shifting focus at a fast cadence so you're outraged under their control) had people forget that and focus on the word vaccine, which used to mean immunity.

I mean, sure.... we all pointed out how they changed that definition and that of herd immunity

But none of that matters because for 99% of the country, their concerns, outrage, and issues are what they're told to be mad about.

The target changes fast enough that you lose all ability to understand why you're mad, so you can remember it later.

For fucks sake, most people forgot about the swamp!

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– NoApologyTour 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

No, they claimed the vaccine would immunize you from covid. They also claimed it was safe. They also claimed that once 70% got vaccinated we would reach herd immunity and could go back to normal.

Since it became clear the vax didn’t work they changed their tune (and the definition of what a vaccine is/does) to gaslight all of us.

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– TheBRAINz 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Yup...shifted their narrative to cover the fact jab doesn't work as originally sold to the public. Unfortunately most of those that bought in and took the jab are not critical thinkers (at least regarding covid) and have every reason to continue to decieve themselves. "Easier to fool people, than convince them they've been fooled." I suspect when the double vaxxed get treated like non-vaxxed, they'll start to turn, since the main motive for many to take the jab was convenience and not health. Once they are "inconvenienced" they'll think differently.

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– KurtTingles 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

We're on iteration four or five of what [They] say the jab actually does.

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– Island_Photo 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Bad outcomes like death?

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– morum 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I wouldn't believe the rates spread by the mainstream media.

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– magaprincess 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

lol... If 1+1 =2 then 3+1 must equal 2 as well, because at one time 3 was 2 and 1's next number is 2.

Literally your argument. Cope harder. Your math is autistic.

100 people - 87 are vaccinated, 13 are not vaccinated. If the vaccine worked, 87 should not be in hospital. It should be 13 people in hospital, with maybe a few fringe cases of vaccinated thrown in.

A vaccine, even if its shitty and barely works, should not result in vaccinated people IN hospital. Those people should have some benefit from the vaccine. The 13 people should be the only people in hospital if the vaccine actually worked.

We'll do it again. 100 people. 80 of people are vaccinated. 20 aren't. 40 people are in hospital. 35 (87%) are vaccinated. - 43.75% of 80 people are in hospital. 5 (13%) aren't vaccinated. - 25% of 20 people are in hospital.

It gets even worse if you make it a lesser amount of people "in hospital". 10 in hospital. 87% vaxxed, 13% unvaxxed. 9 vaxxed, 1 unvaxxed. 11.25% is bigger than 5%.

The 13% of the 20% is always going to be lesser than fucking 87% of the 80%. Sorry but that's fucking awful odds for a vaccine. Almost making the situation worse you could say. You've been played. Hard.

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– tattletalestrangler 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Was trying to figure out what the person was trying to say but the comment is now deleted.

From the BBC article:

Broken down, the hospital admissions rate for the under 60s is 3.5 times higher for unvaccinated, compared to those vaccinated. It is also 1.9 times greater for those unvaccinated who are over 60 and those who have been vaccinated.

I'm guessing they are trying to point out that the hospitalization is greater, percentage-wise based on the population of that group, for unvaccinated.

As an example:

100 population 80 vaxed 20 unvaxed

20 people in hospital 15 vaxed 5 unvaxed

from hospitalized group:

75% vaxed 25% unvaxed

percentage hospitalized based on that population group:

15/80 = 19% vaxed 5/20 = 25% unvaxed

And just in case anyone is wondering, no I'm not vaxed and don't plan to get vaxed. I believe natural immunity is much better than vaccine immunity, especially with what we're seeing with these new vaccines.

I'm guessing the formatting of my example won't look too good. Not sure how to force blank lines in a comment/post. Feel free to shed some light on that for me if you have the answer.

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– Ogcarvattack 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

You created an account to be this fucking retarded? I salute you.

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– pattrn 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

The fact that with just 20% left of the population being unvaccinated, still 87% of those at hospitals are unvaccinated is undeniable evidence that the vaccines do work.

The article states that 13% of those admitted to hospitals are unvaccinated, and 87% are vaccinated. I think you may have just gotten a number switched around.

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– Island_Photo 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Furthermore.... Even if all the jab does is reduce/mask your symptoms, as they have revised their claims to state...those vaxxed people should be in the hospital for something else......sort of like all of those shooting and car accident victims who just happened to die of wu-flu so the hospitals could collect tgeir $47,000 government check.

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– djmarcone 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

lol shills gonna shill.

no-one is that dumb, find another job.

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– bubble_bursts 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

still 87% of those at hospitals are unvaccinated

You got the math wrong my fren. Its the other way around - 87% were vaccinated since the title said 13% were _un_vaccinated

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– Gitmo-or-Bust 22 points 4 years ago +22 / -0

Wait until you all see the cancer rates in vaccinated people........there is a ticking time bomb about to go off regarding the vaccine destroying your natural immunity against cancer.

But never fear. You will also soon learn that another OTC drug at your feed store cures cancer. It is fenbendazole which is an anthelmintic drug just like Ivermectin! Imagine that! The cures for viruses and cancers have sitting on the shelves of Tractor Supply all this time with signs on them that say ‘not safe for human consumption’ all the while they are charging you millions for poisons like chemo/radiation treatments.

These people are sick!

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– smiley-dog 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

fenben

https://helpingcancervictims.com/

https://www.mycancerstory.rocks/

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– BatMitzvahAtEpsteins 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

The incidence of cancer in horses is less common than that in humans

Ivermectin for the win!

The shill will say that's because they only live ~30 years. The shill is wrong:

Almost half of dogs over the age of 10 will develop cancer. Dogs get cancer at roughly the same rate as humans.

The vegan will say that's because horses are vegetarian and dogs/humans are omnivores. The vegan is mostly correct:

overall cancer incidence (compared to meat-eaters) was 11 per cent lower in vegetarians and 19 per cent lower in vegans.

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– magaprincess 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

The fact that you...think that Ivermectin is what stops horses getting cancer is fucking ridiculous.

Have you ever owned a horse or livestock? I assume not. Ivermectin is not the only wormer you give livestock. In fact, even if you're targeting the correct parasite, it doesn't work or works once and not again.

It's also something you don't want to give too often, because tolerance is a thing and it happens quick.

The aim is ALWAYS to not worm. Rotate pastures, correct feed is always preferable.

Ivermectin in sheep/goats etc is even more of a task. It only targets one, maybe 2 types of parasites and often doesn't work. It takes just one worm to build resistance to it then the whole next cycle is resistant. For other types of parasites, you need other medication. It all has the same issue.

I love you filthy casuals who have no idea about medicine let alone animal husbandry. You're making a mockery of the hard work researchers do do and the hard graft that farming really is, even in hobby capacity.

Yes, Ivermectin and associated drugs are incredibly amazing, but they're not this magic bullet fantasy land drug you are all making it out to be.

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– BatMitzvahAtEpsteins 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

No. I'm the vegan. Maybe try reading sometime.

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– momster2 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Stopped feeding my 13 year old dog, dog food. I feed him what ever meat I am cooking. Chicken, steak, ground beef, etc. There is junk in everything that is supposed to be good for us and our pets.

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– ItsOkToBeRight 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Biden kept saying they were going to cure cancer, sounds like he knew something...

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– magaprincess 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Fuck off with your disingenuous, retarded arguments.

They have fuck all in the way of testing from this vaccine and you know it.

All they have now is anecdotal evidence. They have NO evidence that it works either, in fact to the contrary and a mile high list of interactions. The fact you think that a pharma company has your best interests at heart - a meaningless fucking nobody - shows how stupidly naive you are.

They have their $ bottom line at the heart of their motivations and the $ in payoffs they give to doctors/politicians to shut them off and not mention the side effects... like every other documented time they've done this before.

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– angrysnowpede 13 points 4 years ago +13 / -0

This is the vaccinated reporters, writers, and editors going into full-blown cognitive dissonance before something breaks inside.

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– ashlanddog [S] 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Valid observation....

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– Scipio_Americanus 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

The cognitive dissonance is staggering.

"But, without the vaccine, those hospital numbers might be even higher."

Yet, if this assertion from the article were true, we'd see a higher proportion of unvaccinated covid cases. I'm in awe of this level of hamstering....

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– ElkStatue 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

What they say is, so many people are vaccinated, of course there are more vaccinated people with Covid! Which... is... ridiculous.

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– ashlanddog [S] 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

"Ignorance is strength"...

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– Graceunderfire 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

Now factor in them giving the vacced IVERMECTIN and all the statistical fuckery you know is involved and laugh.

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– Recyclops 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

Cue the Bill Gates photo with him sitting next to the book "How To Lie With Statistics".

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– bubble_bursts 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Wow THIRTEEN PERCENT? Them bastards!!

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– ashlanddog [S] 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

The 13% undoubtedly caught it from the 87%....

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– Sadness 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Gotta stamp them out.

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– Based_in_Space 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Is this the ADE kicking in? Seems like this vax doesn’t work. Or it does “work”. Just not the way they think it does.

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– bubble_bursts 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

This is actually not even ADE kicking. This is just vaccine side effects, but with positive PCR test. Wait until the flu season if you want to see misery

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– Gnometard 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Vaccine side effects are far different than the virus, have you looked at VAERS?

The manufacturers of the vaccines said they'd only reduce chances of bad outcomes, not grant immunity.

We said it was a TREATMENT and not a vaccine because of that. It was commented and posted about frequently.

Then they changed the definitions of herd immunity and vaccine.

We pointed out how that's bullshit and how they only did it because their products were never intended to give immunity.

But

Somehow

We forgot all of that and are continuously surprised that the vaccinated aren't immune.

I swear, either everyone is on social media and boomer opinion sites too fucking much OR I switched timelines like with the Mandela effect and simply remembering the other timeline I was bumped out of.

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– mengderen 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Since mRNA is in the equation, I submit that it seeks out genetic markers of inherited diseases in familial DNA and suddenly, we are seeing amplified tremors and heart failures in young people. The reproduction failures of sterility, 1st trimester stillbirths and sloughing of the uterine wall should be terrifying for the implications of even a handful of events let alone the growing numbers being seen. I see an ugly hand in all this..

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– ashlanddog [S] 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

If "depopulation" is their goal, it is a very effective operation....

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– BlokeyMcBlokeFace 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Probably even more when you realise that they only count you as vaccinated after a) two shots minimum and b) two weeks after the second shot.

There's a percentage of that 13% that had one or two shots and still got the bug, so the actual non-"vaccinated" percentage is even lower.

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– Trumpette2020 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I doubt most of those unvaccinated even have covid, but they have to make it seem that way for statistic purposes bc otherwise it would just be vax in hospitals

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– bluewhiteandred 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

reaching levels of honk thought unpossible

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– CQVFEFE 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

NASCAR Crowd:

FUCK JOE BIDEN! FUCK JOE BIDEN! FUCK JOE BIDEN!

Media:

They're chanting "Let's go, Brandon!"

Same deal

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– electricbroth1 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

So retarded.

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– Patriot_MAINIAC 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Nearly 90% were vaxxed.

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– DiveAndBait 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

The sad thing is there's zombies that don't get it.

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– ashlanddog [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

The world is full of stupid people....

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– deleted 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0
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– amarQ144 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

chart is fucked up

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– reachingfortherandom 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Says on your chart you fucked up. You talk like a fag and your shit's all retarded.

(please tell me you've seen Idiocracy)

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– deleted 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0
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– amarQ144 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I realize that. Look again. The "all" columns could not possibly be even close. Combined the "Over 60" now has a lower rate than younger people. If the first two are accurate...big IF... that is an impossibility, and just one of several in the chart itself.

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– deleted 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0
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– HardWorkinPatriot 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Wow! That is a powerful "wakeup" statement!

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– tail11 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Typical newspeak spin. The truth can be found if you have discernment.

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– Cheesecakecrush 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Can't say that out loud dude, they get in trouble.

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– biner79 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Well I'm no math whiz but....

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– ashlanddog [S] 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Howls...

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– deleted 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0
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– Cocobolo 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

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