If ATCs are having problems, things go to shit real fast at a busy airport, even with the best pilots in the world at the control of every plane in the vicinity. Yes, they have to have secondaries, etc if a primary staff person somehow has an incident or becomes incapacitated or loses focus in some way. But add staffing shortages as well?
A recipe for disaster.. which is why flights are getting cancelled. Even managers idiotic enough to do vax mandates dont want to see thousands dead due to planes crashing.
They could've called in the Navy's ATC's from FASFAC, NAS JAX, but didn't. They've done it before during FAA " staffing emergencies." Military ATC's are FAA certified. Why not this time?
Weather was fine. Everyone who lives here in FL will tell you that. Yes, we had thunderstorms, but I live near a small, municipal airport, and there were all kinds of small, private aircraft in the air during those storms. You'd think if it was storm realted, a private pilot wouldn't be in the air, bit a professional pilot would be. What I haven't seen a whole lot of, is commercial flights. I also happen to live under some major flight paths in/out of FL, specifically the paths out of MCO and MIA. The planes are usually at altitude or quickly climbing by the time they get over me, but I haven't seen too many this weekend. Flights are picking up today, but it's still not what I would consider "normal" traffic.
yes we have flights up until hurricanes are a legit threat and right in the area. the storms we had the past couple days were quick moving and not severe.
Yeah but I think these bigger companies get away with it, especially ones that contract with the military. My friend is about to be laid off for this reason, she refuses to get the jab. I heard they already laid off a few people, but she found out that almost half the company (at her location, they have a few locations) refused to get the jab, so what did they do... they pushed the date back a little over a month.
As a Floridian I can assure you there was nothing particularly notable about Florida's rain lately. Flights make it in and out of rainstorms all the time in Florida.
I live in Fl - weather has been just fine. Some rain a few days back but no thunderstorms which are no big deal here. Sorry for the inconvenience to travellers but job loss to those declining the 'vaccine' has longer lasting consequences for many.
Since yesterday, the Asian community is hounded with the news China will attack Taiwan anytime now, and it might not be in the next 4 years (2025) as many world leaders have predicted.
The first shot at Taiwan will immediately start the chain of Domino effect that leads to WW3. When Taiwan is attacked, Japan will jump in because these two countries are neighbor islands next to each other so they will have to defend themself because if they don’t, China will invade that part of Japan.
All Asian countries surround China will have to participate in this war whether they want it or not. It will get very ugly so be prepared frens. Stock up your pantry.
The video started after the reason was given so that didn't help much, but the status board screenshot withball the cancellations (SWA, AA, Frontier) was supposedly Orlando International (MCO)
Who wants to bet that the airlines are probably going to get "bailouts" for their losses over this? Why bother running airplanes and flights when one can just collect "corporate unemployment"?
If a vaccinated pilot died in flight from a negative reaction and the plane crashed I guarantee the CDC would count all deaths as "Covid realated".
If ATCs are having problems, things go to shit real fast at a busy airport, even with the best pilots in the world at the control of every plane in the vicinity. Yes, they have to have secondaries, etc if a primary staff person somehow has an incident or becomes incapacitated or loses focus in some way. But add staffing shortages as well?
A recipe for disaster.. which is why flights are getting cancelled. Even managers idiotic enough to do vax mandates dont want to see thousands dead due to planes crashing.
That's why they shouldn't mandate it.
They could've called in the Navy's ATC's from FASFAC, NAS JAX, but didn't. They've done it before during FAA " staffing emergencies." Military ATC's are FAA certified. Why not this time?
not enough Military ATCs who got the Jab? just a guess =/
There's a FANG base at the airport. They share the runways.
Lying by omission. The jab is related to COVID-19, after all
They want to hide this information because if we stand up they will go down!
Well its not working because people are finding out that others are standing up.
#TheStreisandEffect
Maybe we need a national "call in sick" day.......kinda thinking this is a good idea.
Yeah, like every day until they get rid of this bullshit and start arresting people
I’m down. I’d live in a cardboard box if it meant we could prompt some arrests
Weather was fine. Everyone who lives here in FL will tell you that. Yes, we had thunderstorms, but I live near a small, municipal airport, and there were all kinds of small, private aircraft in the air during those storms. You'd think if it was storm realted, a private pilot wouldn't be in the air, bit a professional pilot would be. What I haven't seen a whole lot of, is commercial flights. I also happen to live under some major flight paths in/out of FL, specifically the paths out of MCO and MIA. The planes are usually at altitude or quickly climbing by the time they get over me, but I haven't seen too many this weekend. Flights are picking up today, but it's still not what I would consider "normal" traffic.
Well I guess the media will just have to say bad weather for maybe a lot longer than one day! This should be fun!
I think florida of all places would know how to keep airport ops going during a tstorm. They happen literally every day
yes we have flights up until hurricanes are a legit threat and right in the area. the storms we had the past couple days were quick moving and not severe.
I thought in florida vax mandates were illegal? Story is confusing due to that variable.
Air traffic controllers are FAA, federal so I think that makes it different.
Thank you, that makes sense.
Yeah but I think these bigger companies get away with it, especially ones that contract with the military. My friend is about to be laid off for this reason, she refuses to get the jab. I heard they already laid off a few people, but she found out that almost half the company (at her location, they have a few locations) refused to get the jab, so what did they do... they pushed the date back a little over a month.
The mandates DeSantis put out are against State, County, and City employees and contractors.
in florida, mandates are only illegal for businesses/venues to impose on customers. businesses can still impose them on employees.
Thank you for the clarification.
Jacksonville, FL 79 degrees, 5 mph winds.
As a Floridian I can assure you there was nothing particularly notable about Florida's rain lately. Flights make it in and out of rainstorms all the time in Florida.
I live in Fl - weather has been just fine. Some rain a few days back but no thunderstorms which are no big deal here. Sorry for the inconvenience to travellers but job loss to those declining the 'vaccine' has longer lasting consequences for many.
yahoo doing damage control:
The airline blamed the problem on air traffic control issues and weather.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/southwest-airlines-flight-woes-continue-150820206.html
This news needs to be spread far and wide; they're terrified of it getting out that passive resistance just shut down an entire airport.
Since yesterday, the Asian community is hounded with the news China will attack Taiwan anytime now, and it might not be in the next 4 years (2025) as many world leaders have predicted.
The first shot at Taiwan will immediately start the chain of Domino effect that leads to WW3. When Taiwan is attacked, Japan will jump in because these two countries are neighbor islands next to each other so they will have to defend themself because if they don’t, China will invade that part of Japan.
All Asian countries surround China will have to participate in this war whether they want it or not. It will get very ugly so be prepared frens. Stock up your pantry.
Media saying it’s the weather nationwide.. will we being hearing next that it was due to “climate change”?
Most of those were Southwest flights. From my understanding most Southwest pilots are ex-military.
If the cancellations were due to bad weather, the news would have covered it.
This is what Klaus and the cabal want though. End of air travel.
Either poison the pilots with jabs or force the airline to go bust with walkouts.
Win-Win.
Is there anything more than a tweeted picture of a text?
You do well to question everything good man
Orlando to New York and back not impacted at all.
The video started after the reason was given so that didn't help much, but the status board screenshot withball the cancellations (SWA, AA, Frontier) was supposedly Orlando International (MCO)
North East FL represent!
You couldn't pay me to fly anywhere theses days... but we're not exactly safe from them on the ground either....
Is this like the Aussie truckie blockade?
More protests on the way https://twitter.com/OANN/status/1447284398852755457 "Southwest Airlines cancels more than 1.8K flights "
Excellent! The people won't stop flying so the employees must do it themselves, which is actually a good thing, IMHO
Is there a better summary than Citizensfreepress? That is the best i have found so far... Nothing is posted at NATCA news...
2 days later and still blaming the weather: https://www.yahoo.com/news/southwest-airlines-flight-woes-continue-150820206.html
Thanks OP
Who wants to bet that the airlines are probably going to get "bailouts" for their losses over this? Why bother running airplanes and flights when one can just collect "corporate unemployment"?
Seems "disruptive weather" = protests/pushback in cabal comms.
I pray God will bless each and every one of those ATC's that participated.